mrkayfabe Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Hey just wondering if there was plans for a War of the Immortals mod for tew2013? I really enjoyed the others and was wondering if there will be a new one. If not then I am more than happy to construct one using tommy's old data. I dont wanna step on toes if there is plans afoot, and if there are then I am more than happy to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMegaFish Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I attempted to contact Tommy regarding this just a few days ago. So far he hasn't returned word on if he plans to or not, and he hasn't been active on the boards really either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stennick Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Tommy is a legendary mod maker. I know a lot of people on here don't remember his "The Fall" and "After the Fall" mods but they were spectacular and then his WOTI mods on top of that were just unbelievable. I've known Tommy for like 13 years now from a few different sites he's a super cool guy (check is in the mail right Tommy? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike b Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Its said that Stennick and Tommy are twins:p As for WOTI 3 im so hoping for it. But as for anyone bringing it over from 10 unless it is for yourself only i would not unless you have Tommy's blessing. Besides som tells me we will be hearing from Tommy reallllll sooooonnnnn:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkayfabe Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 Mike B - of course i would never dream of just stealing the tew 10 mod and sticking on the mod forum. The fact that im fishing around to see if we are gonna get the excellence of WOTI 3, shows I have massive respect for tommy and in fact all mod makers. WOTI 2 was the only mod I really properly played for TEW10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommytomlin Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Hey guys, glad you enjoyed the original. I'm actually playing WOTI2 in TEW13 after just converting my old data and it works pretty much as is, you just have to import all the sections its missing from the default data (first name/last names etc). Feel free to use WOTI2 as the base for anything, I don't have time to make a sequel. If I was though I'd definitely be adding a promotion called NXT to mop up all those new workers that have debuted since WOTI2... The other things that need attention are balancing out the overness levels, I think the top guys are fine (WOTI works as a mod because it has so many B to A+ popularity guys to sustain a few national promotions) but there is definitely some standardising of popularity needed, particularly for the D/C/C+ levels. I'd based it on a rule that guys from the 90's and 00's had more exposure and therefore a lower card guy from the Attitude era should have higher popularity than a regional star from the 70's and 80's. BUT this resulted in some guys probably having higher popularity than they should. There's also a few random people who are way higher or way lower than they should be (not sure why I have Maryse at 70% nationwide...), so I'd check that too. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommytomlin Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 And Stennick and I are not the same person. He actually finishes his fantasy booking stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkayfabe Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 Thanks tommy. In the game I converted and half updated I added NXT and a WWE PG era. Also I added AJPW & NJPW. And just for trying things added a small UFC. With Dana and Lorenzo running it. I wanted to use the alliance feature that was the main reason for converting the files I changed JCP and created Mid-Atlantic, Florida, and Georgia. Including Mid South to create the NWA. From WCW, WCW/nWo & WCW NBR I made a Time Warner alliance And then I made a WWE Universe Alliance with WWWF, WWE, WWF:NG, WWF:ATT, WWF:Classic, WWE:PG & WWE:NXT Each alliance has a slightly different agreements. I also got rid of ECW Reborn and added in CZW. Im currently thinking about make CZW or XPW debut 2 years into the game as ECW goes out of business quite a few times I ran a year simulation. Anyway id be really interested in ppls opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommytomlin Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I think using Alliances is obviously a good idea considering the new system but I think you've made them a bit too big. There needs to be a trade-off, all you've done is make it a lot easier to play a WWE or WCW promotion at the moment. A WWE alliance that incorporates all of them isn't going to make the game play better. It makes it too easy for WWF Attitude and WWF Classic in national battles as they won't take damage from each other. The fun of WOTI is that any of the Cult promotions can make it to national, and then the national battles have these disastrous effects (hence the in-built Wars between promotions) that allow new feds to rise up. It's the 'War' in WOTI which you're sacrificing for the Alliances. Killing ECW Reborn and adding the other extreme feds is a great idea though. Splitting NWA is controversial (NWA was my favourite promotion but I can see why you did it) but it's your mod Not sure if WWE:PG and WWE need to be seperate feds really though, there hasn't been a massive emergence of new stars in the PG era and most of them would already be in WWE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike b Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mrkayfabe" data-cite="mrkayfabe" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35522" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>Mike B</strong> - of course i would never dream of just stealing the tew 10 mod and sticking on the mod forum. <p> </p><p> The fact that im fishing around to see if we are gonna get the excellence of WOTI 3, shows I have massive respect for tommy and in fact all mod makers. WOTI 2 was the only mod I really properly played for TEW10</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Sweet and oh never implied you was stealing my friend if it sounded like i was my bad.</p><p> </p><p> And i see Tommy replied so sweet congrats look forward towards your version woti is one of my all time fav mods.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkayfabe Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 You are not authorized to post links in this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkayfabe Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 <p>First tommy thanks for the input. Ive been working on this since day of trial release. Its my first mod so its a learning process, and all the advice is very helpful and welcome</p><p> </p><p> I didn't want to start a hype topic just yet, but thought you might be interested in some test run results.</p><p> </p><p> A quick over view of the mutation of tommys mod just so some of the results make sense.</p><p> </p><p> I have 29 promotions. I included the alliance feature, with 3 starting alliances; WWE Network, NWA and AOL-TimeWarner</p><p> </p><p> WWE Network</p><p> </p><p> WWWF, WWF Classic, WWF: New Gen, WWF Attitude, WWE, WWE:PG and WWE: NXT</p><p> </p><p> AOL-TimeWarner</p><p> </p><p> WCW, WCW/nWo and WCW: NBR</p><p> </p><p> NWA</p><p> ( I dont wanna spoil everything here guys so ill say that it has at least 7 members )</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="tommytomlin" data-cite="tommytomlin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35522" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think using Alliances is obviously a good idea considering the new system but I think you've made them a bit too big. There needs to be a trade-off, all you've done is make it a lot easier to play a WWE or WCW promotion at the moment.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It was the alliance feature that was the main focus. I have run various 5 to 10 year unemployed simulation of the mod and got various results. Such as;</p><p> </p><p> - WCW/nWo dominating three of the tests. Rising to Global level. Eliminating WWF Attitude!! and WWWF from the WWE Network alliance, along with TNA, WCW and AAA all going bankrupt. WWF Classic, WWF New Gen, WWE, WWE:PG & WWE:NXT popularity ranged from regional to national. </p><p> </p><p> - In 2 tests Portland Wrestling became the number 1 company with a international popularity</p><p> </p><p> - The first couple of test the Japanese promotions (AJPW and NJPW) monopolized the end of year awards and the popularity charts. </p><p> </p><p> - The NWA group stayed constant throughout the tests, with popularity ranging from regional to international amongst the promotions</p><p> </p><p> Some recurring events were </p><p> </p><p> - ECW going bankrupt 12 to 18 months into the test</p><p> - ROH going bankrupt 2 to 3 years into the test</p><p> - WCW New Blood Rising, OVW, AWA and WCCW rising to cult</p><p> </p><p> I agree that maybe the NWA promotions could do with a bit more popularity to combat the potential WWE juggernaut. I have started to tinker with the mod to see what happens.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="tommytomlin" data-cite="tommytomlin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35522" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not sure if WWE:PG and WWE need to be seperate feds really though, there hasn't been a massive emergence of new stars in the PG era and most of them would already be in WWE?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I understand what your saying here, especially with the addition of WWE NXT (it has a very low popularity) When making the rosters. I outlined the WWE to be circa 2002 to 2007. WWE: PG would be 2008 to 2012 and WWENXT be current up and coming WWE stars. Similar to the WCW New Blood Rising roster. I have decided to make a copy of the mod and try with just WWE and WWENXT. </p><p> </p><p> I am interested in everyone's opinion on this. </p><p> Is WWE and WWE: PG a good idea? (Where does Jon Cena work?) </p><p> What about WWE NXT? (After playing a few games i have to question, if Big E Langston belongs in a mod that came from a game with the word immortal in the title <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />)</p><p> </p><p> Please guys add your input i am close to finishing if the current setup is getting over like rover or if its a bomb-scare let me know</p><p> </p><p> Also if anyone wants to chip in with a bit of help PM me please</p><p> </p><p> To close ill just say that the info I have offered up here aint even half of the additions and changes I made.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike b Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mrkayfabe" data-cite="mrkayfabe" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35522" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You are not authorized to post links in this forum.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Lol is that for you or me.</p><p> </p><p> Oh was was AWA doing in your tests. I always love to use them.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkayfabe Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 <p>Dude I dunno what happened there!!?? i edited my post after trying to link to a wwe.com article sighting when they turned PG. </p><p> </p><p> As for AWA, im just running a new test year 2 so far. I will get back to you when it gets 5 years in.</p><p> </p><p> From what I can remember from other tests, they gain cult status and keep that popularity strong. Like i say im not sure so ill post pics from the latest test....if im authorized <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike b Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 <p>I got them to National 2x (AWA) totally killing the wwf in regional wars.</p><p> </p><p> In Tommys woti the AWA has the right talent for the right product. They may not have megs names like Hogan,Rock or Flair but there wrestlers can work.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkayfabe Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 Does anyone wanna PM me if they are interested in running a few test games for me on this mod. Hopefully someone does cos im really wanting a second or third opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommytomlin Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Results from your 5-10 year tests look really good, that kind of chaos is exactly what should happen. If you want help with the mod, start a hype thread. People love hype threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike b Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 OMG ITS Tommy Bows down all hail the legend. If Tommy sais this mod looks good then it must be AWESOME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkayfabe Posted March 30, 2013 Author Share Posted March 30, 2013 Cheers tommy for the input. I took your original comments and applied it to the mod. Tweaked the popularity here and there, changed some of the alliance agreements. Im wanting to do a good job here, but following you is like Mason Ryan and The Miz trying to follow Danielson vs Punk. And cheers Mike for the interest, I just hope I live upto it A Hype thread is coming soon - so I guess this is a hype for a hype thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike b Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Hype thread = AWESOME Are you going to be having more smaller feds in your mod also. 1 thing bummed me out in Woti was that so many great workers were either dead or retired. Maybe you can un retire alot of workers and just make up road agents and bookers. I would not mind that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrkayfabe Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 The ages of the workers in WOTI 2 obviously were altered to allow different generation of wrestlers to all work together. With the 3 year difference between the mods I have gone through and altered some of the ages to make sure workers don't retire 2 years into the mod - this is something that is constantly changing when testing the game, so hopefully workers will have a longer career. As for smaller promotions, I have included promotions of all sizes. I enjoy trying to take a regional NWA territory promotion to national size, and this includes modern era "indies" as well. So hopefully there is enough variety to satisfy everyone's needs. Im gonna save all the major info when the hype thread happens (I feel like im debuting a mod in the style of Fandango or Brodus Clay) Keep checking the forum it wont be long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike b Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Hows mod coming along and the hype thread to be:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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