Ramaeno Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Hi all, this is the user formerly known as Ramaeno incase anybody remembers me by my old username. I was thinking about this, and just wanted to throw this out there. I will start off by saying I could be totally, 100% absolutely wrong about this, and if so, so be it. Nevertheless, it seems to me that a lot of people use this angle, I mean, as a primary angle that features alot in their shows. I just wanted to suggest that things could be more fun, and you can push your creativity to new levels, maybe if you use this angle sparringly. I think old school fans who grew up on a different era of wrestling, as that is the kind of fan that I am, maybe just see things differently. When there was a post match attack or backstage beatdown, it was often a huge deal when it happened and by itself setup matches between the parties for weeks to come, culminating no doubt with a PPV blow out bout. Some examples of this would be the Honky Tonk Man attack on Macho Man and Elizabeth at Saturday Night's Main Event. The backstage assault of Macho Man against Hulk Hogan when the Mega Powers began to... "explode" if you weel. Or, I'll use my favorite wrestler of all time in this, but when the British Bulldogs broke up, in Stampede Wrestling, a backstage assault segment was used to make it happen. So if you were like me, growing up on that kind of wrestling, you were probably or possibly, like me, when the Monday Night Wars began and took off, somewhat shocked and incredulous when the post match attacks and backstage beatdowns started happening, 2, 3 times a show and then in the glory days of horrible WCW booking it seemed like there were more in ring beat downs and backstage brawls than actual matches, and I think I remember gradually growing mortified by seeing that all the time and honestly match interferences became so predictable you could throw up and wishing for the days of a 20 minute main event thriller with no interference, no ref bumps and a decisive 1-2-3 and *gasp* maybe the match would not end with a "finishing move" either... oh, the horror. Yes my personal bias is I really hate the concept of "finishing moves" as a former amateur wrestler in school and other experience I'd like to keep personal, but in amateur wrestling, I can just imagine it now, trying to compete with a "finishing move" the idea is both hilarious and scary, I digress.. I've seen card results in screen shots and dynasties and what have you and I just have seen so much of this post match in ring assaults and backstage beat ups, I just thought that it was happening so much in so many places and such overkill that I just thought maybe people were doing it and not being aware, but maybe they are too and maybe Im the one whose out of touch or wrong here, but I think maybe it'd be good if you could challenge yourself, broaden the proverbial creative horizons and diversify your stories, shows, and cards and put together different things... 4-5 in ring beat downs and backstage assaults per show every show, I just cant imagine... but I dont watch the modern American product anymore and havent since around the invasion angle so again I could be out of touch. If you'd like an example, from real life, of something like a creative, out of the box "segment" or "angle" I will give you one right now: So as some know, Asian history is my real life trade, specifically Japanese history (focusing on the Muromachi period.) Naturally I have great affection for "puroresu". In the late 90s Japan had a psuedo phenomenon "sports celebrity" in the Olympic medalist Judo champion Naoya Ogawa. He became a sort of protege to the recently retired Antonio Inoki who was however, also, becoming less and less interested in pro wrestling as a whole (this is a man whose life long dream has been to invent something of Thomas Edison like historical relevance and as a result has nearly lost everything several times, one example being an attempt to find alternative energy to fossil fuels by trying to create a machine that would turn sugar cane/pure sugar into gasoline. crazy? yes.) and actually he'd be gone from the company he founded, NJPW, in due time. But at this time Naoya Ogawa was THE man. They put him over Shinya Hashimoto match after match and up until that time Hashimoto was THE man. Doing this was very risky because it may've backfired as Hashimoto was beloved and in Japanese culture it's a bit of a taboo what they were doing. Not to mention the *way* that Ogawa went over Hashimoto, knocking him out on one occassion, making him a bloody mess in another occassion.... Anyway, the decision was made to try and further get Ogawa over and even potentially get him over to the US audiences by getting the NWA involved and putting the NWA title on Ogawa. This is the late 90's early 2000's and the NWA was just kind of getting itself out of the black hole it had been in since Shane Douglas incident and also it was capitalizing on it's WWF air time and the general wrestling boom. At the time, Dan Severn was NWA champion. So this "out of the box" creative angle went like this. Dan Severn arrived at Tokyo Narita airport with the NWA Championship and NWA President Howard Brody. The cameras were rolling and the Japanese press were swarming them, taking pictures. The original Tiger Mask, as a sort of NJPW "commissioner" was on hand with Naoya Ogawa and a host of young boys. The challenger and champion met face to face and then proceeded to the press conference area. What happens next is that Tiger Mask initiates a "debate" about the use of open palm grappling gloves versus padded palm grappling gloves for the title match. NWA President Howard Brody and Dan Severn want nothing to do with the unpadded gloves, Naoya Ogawa on the other hand, wants nothing to do with the extra padding. No agreement can be reached and the title fight is called off. The press go crazy and scream and shout and Dan Severn and Howard Brody get the title and prepare to board a flight back to the US. Suddenly a "special NWA envoy" arrives. Dory Funk Jr (with his insane wife, thats all Ill say.) And Dory Funk in this ambassadorial capacity is able to broker a peace/agreement between the parties and in addition he will be the guest referee! Naoya Ogawa won the match and the belt and there you have a great example of some certainly for US audiences unusual and out of the box booking. Like I said, I could be wrong, but I just thought I'd share my view on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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