Local to Global: How do you start branching out?

[Jobbertrev]

I have been working my way up the ranks of a Local to Global Game, with an owner and Avatar character under Road to Glory Rules, and I'm currently trying to figure out when the best time to branch out of the Southeast Region of the United States.

 

I'm currently small, and now that I can sustain a profit, I started a brand split, and signed a bunch of women to my company. My Schedule is as follows:

 

Monday: Barely Legal (1 Hour: Women's Division)

Wednesday: Uncut (1 Hour: Men's Show)

Thursday: Free The People: LIVE (1 Hour: Men's Show)

 

Week 4: Friday: Groupon Presents: Wrestling Live (1 Hour Closeout Show)

 

With the signing of the Cheaper Women's division, with the added attendance I can post a profit. I'm considering branching my Women's division out of the region to work on a second region, but that could possibly hurt me in the future where my women will be over in one region, and my male workers will put on bad shows there until their pop catches up.

 

Or I just pick one week (Monday, Wednesday, Thursday) each month and run it in my second area after I can do this while still posting a monthly profit.

 

 

How/When do you guys start branching out to secondary areas?

[DarK_RaideR]

The game's system has you covered already. Once you get up to Regional size, jumping to Cult requires a certain importance in <strong>two</strong> areas, so that's when you start branching out. By that time you'll already have some spillover pop in other areas, one of which should be your target. Try getting a TV deal if you can, helps you grow your pop in several areas with a single show.

[Herrbear]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jobbertrev" data-cite="Jobbertrev" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44136" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I have been working my way up the ranks of a Local to Global Game, with an owner and Avatar character under Road to Glory Rules, and I'm currently trying to figure out when the best time to branch out of the Southeast Region of the United States. <p> </p><p> I'm currently small, and now that I can sustain a profit, I started a brand split, and signed a bunch of women to my company. My Schedule is as follows: </p><p> </p><p> Monday: Barely Legal (1 Hour: Women's Division) </p><p> Wednesday: Uncut (1 Hour: Men's Show) </p><p> Thursday: Free The People: LIVE (1 Hour: Men's Show) </p><p> </p><p> Week 4: Friday: Groupon Presents: Wrestling Live (1 Hour Closeout Show) </p><p> </p><p> With the signing of the Cheaper Women's division, with the added attendance I can post a profit. I'm considering branching my Women's division out of the region to work on a second region, but that could possibly hurt me in the future where my women will be over in one region, and my male workers will put on bad shows there until their pop catches up. </p><p> </p><p> Or I just pick one week (Monday, Wednesday, Thursday) each month and run it in my second area after I can do this while still posting a monthly profit. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> How/When do you guys start branching out to secondary areas?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#0000FF;">How many years has your fed been running? Thank you.</span></p>

[Irish Wolf]

What I did was just push in my region a weekly show and monthly shows right from the get go. I went in debt pretty heavy but I stayed local until I could jump to regional, I skipped small altogether. Then I just stayed at regional I'm up to about 82 in my region. In the last quarter of my fifth year I bought my own broadcaster which covers all of the US and I've been chugging away ever since. I bought the smallest sized subscription broadcaster and about 6 months in I upgraded it one level. I'm 83 pop now in the US 45 in 3 other regions so as soon as I get to 47 Importance, which is about 51 in one of those regions I'll hit cult. I should have a few million in the bank by then to deal with the massive money loss that comes with being cult.

[mitsukaikira]

<p>I stay in my home region until late Regional and just let spillover do the work. I base in the North West, usually, so branching out to BC and the SW is easy as spillover is good.</p><p> </p><p>

It's even pretty easy to get Cult while not leaving your home region, it just takes a very long time.</p><p> </p><p>

Starting at local I do monthly shows until small. Then I'll do monthly shows with 4 quarterly shows as well to serve as a bridge to weekly shows at regional. I don't normally get into debt and it's a great chance to build homegrown stars.</p>

[Herrbear]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Apupunchau@optonline" data-cite="Apupunchau@optonline" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44136" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What I did was just push in my region a weekly show and monthly shows right from the get go. I went in debt pretty heavy but I stayed local until I could jump to regional, I skipped small altogether. Then I just stayed at regional I'm up to about 82 in my region. In the last quarter of my fifth year I bought my own broadcaster which covers all of the US and I've been chugging away ever since. I bought the smallest sized subscription broadcaster and about 6 months in I upgraded it one level. I'm 83 pop now in the US 45 in 3 other regions so as soon as I get to 47 Importance, which is about 51 in one of those regions I'll hit cult. I should have a few million in the bank by then to deal with the massive money loss that comes with being cult.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#0000FF;">Are you starting your own promotion or using an existing one.</span></p><p><span style="color:#0000FF;"> If your own, how much money do you start with? Thank you.</span></p>

[Herrbear]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mitsukaikira" data-cite="mitsukaikira" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44136" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I stay in my home region until late Regional and just let spillover do the work. I base in the North West, usually, so branching out to BC and the SW is easy as spillover is good.<p> </p><p> It's even pretty easy to get Cult while not leaving your home region, it just takes a very long time.</p><p> </p><p> Starting at local I do monthly shows until small. Then I'll do monthly shows with 4 quarterly shows as well to serve as a bridge to weekly shows at regional. I don't normally get into debt and it's a great chance to build homegrown stars.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#0000FF;">How much money do you start with? Thank you.</span></p>

[K-Nection]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Herrbear" data-cite="Herrbear" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44136" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><span style="color:#0000FF;">How much money do you start with? Thank you.</span></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> As long as you are smart with your hiring you can start with no money and make money. At local you only need 1 ref 1 road agent and 6 workers and you can put on a monthly hour long show with a profit. You can even save money by not hiring that road agent and just have your best workers do it.</p><p> </p><p> At local you can just show up with a pulse and grow in size.....If you are still ending up in the negative on income consider running bi-monthly so you collect merchandise money in the off months.</p>

[mitsukaikira]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Herrbear" data-cite="Herrbear" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44136" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><span style="color:#0000FF;">How much money do you start with? Thank you.</span></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Whenever I start a new game it's always 0/0/0/0.</p>

[James Casey]

<p>I'm struggling with this right now. I'm playing RtG at Small and my fed is losing out in the regional battles to at least one company (CZCW) each month, plus at least one company has much superior production values to us. As a result, we don't seem to have grown much (if at all) in the last year. We're bringing in 350 fans per show, and that hasn't really changed.</p><p> </p><p>

I suspect that I've brought in too many workers, but I like having a larger roster to avoid repeititive booking penalties (in-game or mental ones). As a result, a lot of those workers haven't really gained too much in terms of popularity as they've been trading wins back and forth.</p><p> </p><p>

I've now making a concerted effort to aggressively push the better half of my roster, having them beating the worse half wherever possible and only having better vs. better matches in the last one or two matches of the card. In theory, that should get the pushed half over more, resulting in better match grades, better show grades, better popularity gains... We'll see.</p><p> </p><p>

At what point is it worth branching out to a second monthly show? We have 70k in the bank, so could afford a few months of losses, but at 350 fans per show it could take a chunk out of our budget...</p>

[Irish Wolf]

Are you starting your own promotion or using an existing one.

If your own, how much money do you start with? Thank you.

 

I do the Road to Glory challenge so its my own company. I start at 0 pop/ 0 prestige/ 0 momentum/ 0 cash. I also run a promotion that isn't exactly sponsor friendly and in a region where I'm in constant regional battles.

[Irish Wolf]

I'm struggling with this right now. I'm playing RtG at Small and my fed is losing out in the regional battles to at least one company (CZCW) each month, plus at least one company has much superior production values to us. As a result, we don't seem to have grown much (if at all) in the last year. We're bringing in 350 fans per show, and that hasn't really changed.

 

I suspect that I've brought in too many workers, but I like having a larger roster to avoid repeititive booking penalties (in-game or mental ones). As a result, a lot of those workers haven't really gained too much in terms of popularity as they've been trading wins back and forth.

 

I've now making a concerted effort to aggressively push the better half of my roster, having them beating the worse half wherever possible and only having better vs. better matches in the last one or two matches of the card. In theory, that should get the pushed half over more, resulting in better match grades, better show grades, better popularity gains... We'll see.

 

At what point is it worth branching out to a second monthly show? We have 70k in the bank, so could afford a few months of losses, but at 350 fans per show it could take a chunk out of our budget...

 

How many shows are you running. With RtG I've found it impossible to grow enough to make money if I don't power through to some real sponsorship so I run a weekly show and a monthly show from day one. I lose a lot of money fast but you go a year and a half without getting a warning and by then I'm making money. But what this means is that even if I'm losing regional battles and not having the best production I'm still gaining overness cause I do 5 shows a month.

[James Casey]

Just one a month right now. I'm can try a weekly show and see how that goes; Does the 18 month debt thing apply all the time? I'm several years into the game, so don't want to lose my save by being too aggressive with the money.

[Irish Wolf]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="James Casey" data-cite="James Casey" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44136" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just one a month right now. I'm can try a weekly show and see how that goes; Does the 18 month debt thing apply all the time? I'm several years into the game, so don't want to lose my save by being too aggressive with the money.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There's something about brand new companies getting a year leeway or maybe its local companies getting a year leeway and then once that year is up you have 6 months to right the ship. Local companies may even be able to go into excessive debt so I think what I did was limit myself to local until I would hit regional - skipping small altogether. Once I was regional the sponsorship money saw me catch up pretty quickly.</p><p> </p><p> I just checked all my emails for my RtG run and I didnt get my first financial warning till the last day of july 2017 and that was the only warning I got. I reached regional a week later and I made more than enough money to catch up.</p>

[James Casey]

<p>Thanks, looks like a trip back to Local is required to see how I do... <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

EDIT: Blast, can't force a drop down in size... Oh well, let's see how a short run of weekly shows does for us.</p>

[Irish Wolf]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="James Casey" data-cite="James Casey" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44136" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Thanks, looks like a trip back to Local is required to see how I do... <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> EDIT: Blast, can't force a drop down in size... Oh well, let's see how a short run of weekly shows does for us.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If you're regional you'll probably make a bit of money. If your small or local you'll lose some but you'll be ok you shouldn't get a warning for awhile.</p>

[James Casey]

<p>Made it to Regional! Turning a pretty profit by the end, too!</p><p> </p><p>

Thanks, Apupunchau! Now I need to find a way to overcome every other Regional fed having massive production advantages over me... <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Irish Wolf]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="James Casey" data-cite="James Casey" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44136" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Made it to Regional! Turning a pretty profit by the end, too!<p> </p><p> Thanks, Apupunchau! Now I need to find a way to overcome every other Regional fed having massive production advantages over me... <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You're going to take the hit for years. Its not gonna be that bad as long as you're winning the regional battles. When you get to about C in your region you'll be raking in enough money to surpass them. By the time I hit B- in my region I had maxed out all of them and was turning a profit still.</p><p> </p><p> THe next big thing is expansion. Branching out is way to difficult. YOu'll hemorrhage money. What you'll want to do is save up enough (I think 12.5 million) to open your own tiny broadcaster. Within a year and a half of Decent shows you'll jump from regional to cult.I went witht he subscription based. This way you can still run your weekly show as an event and get the event attendance money instead of the much lover TV Show attendance.</p>

[James Casey]

<p>Oh yeah, I know from previous games that I need to max out the benefits of Regional before considering expansion. I think I'll lock myself into Regional size to be double sure, but I'm not planning on leaving the Mid South for a long, long time!</p><p> </p><p>

Thanks again <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[D16NJD16]

On that subject, t's far too easy IMO, to do something that in real life would literally never be possible. You can basically go from Local to Global in TEW by being a really good booker for a long period of time, which is kind of silly.

[James Casey]

<p>It's literally been done once, maybe twice if you count WCW. Vince went from ~ Regional to Global in about 16-17 years from the time he took over from his father and began the aggressive expansion through to the peak of the Attitude Era. There were some missteps along the way, of course, but Vince took a while to cotton on to the importance of pairing Psychology with a high Star Quality <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

In-game, taking 17 years to get from Local to Global would be unbearable. Much better to condense it to a somewhat more manageable timeframe.</p>

[LordofGustav]

Don't know if i can apply that advice while playing SCW (playing Hulkamania Extreme Edition II Mod if you ask, that takes place in an alternative timeline of 1995). It looks that it doesn't matter if put only the production values that the broadcasters give me, i still lose money. I usually start with $250.000 and i wonder if the product affects as well (I usually begin with Hardcore as Key feature).

[Irish Wolf]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LordofGustav" data-cite="LordofGustav" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44136" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Don't know if i can apply that advice while playing SCW (playing Hulkamania Extreme Edition II Mod if you ask, that takes place in an alternative timeline of 1995). It looks that it doesn't matter if put only the production values that the broadcasters give me, i still lose money. I usually start with $250.000 and i wonder if the product affects as well (I usually begin with Hardcore as Key feature).</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If you own your own network you don't have to worry about production values. Or minimum show ratings. Its your network you can put on crappy bad looking shows all you want.</p>

[LordofGustav]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Apupunchau@optonline" data-cite="Apupunchau@optonline" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44136" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If you own your own network you don't have to worry about production values. Or minimum show ratings. Its your network you can put on crappy bad looking shows all you want.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've found a way to avoid losing more money, releasing all the talent that i have no plans to use, besides sticking to the needed broadcasting levels.</p><p> </p><p> By the way, thanks <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Irish Wolf]

I've found a way to avoid losing more money, releasing all the talent that i have no plans to use, besides sticking to the needed broadcasting levels.

 

By the way, thanks

 

That always helps. Roster bloat can be a huge cash killer for smaller companies