Official Game Thread- Barebones 4 Mafia (The Revival November 2018)

[Antithesis]

OCC:Hope all goes well Anti. Thoughts and prayers! Just let me know.

 

And since I am in here; I will be at the hospital tomorrow also. But not for me. Tomorrow I become a Grandpa. So I plan on taking my laptop so I can try and keep you all in line. There may be gaps in my online in case something were to happen. That said, the phase still ends at 600EST/1100GST unless you all bring it to a close earlier. If something happens when I am not online, I will attend to it as soon as I am able. The end phase should not be a problem.

Thanks,

theoutlaw321

 

Thank you Outlaw.

 

Hope all goes well for you and yours as well.

[Astil]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Two" data-cite="The Two" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't know Outlaw, but the write-up isn't exactly perfect for grammar. That's a reach.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Fair. Retracted.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Antithesis" data-cite="Antithesis" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Astil VG1 was your game, was it Derek that had his team basically block/jail himself for a day to win?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Man, I cant rmember VG2 mineaswell 1. Sorry.</p><p> </p><p> Hope all goes well Anti.</p>

[Astil]

<p>If not Derek then who?</p><p> </p><p>

We need to do something today and phase ends in less than 24. We need a direction or two as back up.</p>

[theoutlaw321]

<p><strong>Antithesis-2</strong> moon_lit_tears, eayragt)</p><p>

<strong>Derek B-6</strong> (Astil, Destiny, BlueStar, lukess11, Jaded, cappyboy)</p><p>

<strong>Crychon-1</strong> (mistaken)</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>It is now DAY PHASE. With 25 players remaining, it's 13 to lynch. </strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong>

You have until 6:00PM EST (11:00PM GMT) on Monday, November 19th to reach a majority vote. If no vote has been reached at that time, a No Lynch will be declared.</strong></p><p><strong>

As always, if you see a mistake point it out.</strong></p><p> </p><p>

<19hours</p>

[Antithesis]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Astil" data-cite="Astil" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If not Derek then who?<p> </p><p> We need to do something today and phase ends in less than 24. We need a direction or two as back up.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well if he won't agree to test with you we lynch him, sounds fair. Unless I missed something no one else has anything? </p><p> </p><p> Hate to return to MLT or machine but given d1 no ones come forward can we maybe at least assume they are ok? As in no one need confirm that and out themselves but no one is pointing fingers at them, so maybe we can move on from that at least?</p><p> </p><p> Anyone believe there is just one kill? I know that comes back to derek but just assume derek is legit what does one kill mean in terms of balance?</p>

[Wrestling Century]

<p>OOC, but I hope nothings serious Anti, take care.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

OT, I just caught up, I've been sick in bed all day and have been able to drag myself to my computer room finally. I don't know what to think. Obviously there wouldn't be any logical reason for Derek or Astil to be lying, that wouldn't be much of a wise move, especially this early in the game. However, I highly doubt that there would be two of the same role. But things are so screwy, idk if I should trust the idea that Derek blocked Anti. Maybe someone else threw everything for a loop with an ability last night?</p>

[Arrows]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Wrestling Century" data-cite="Wrestling Century" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>OOC, but I hope nothings serious Anti, take care.<p> </p><p> </p><p> OT, I just caught up, I've been sick in bed all day and have been able to drag myself to my computer room finally. I don't know what to think. Obviously there wouldn't be any logical reason for Derek or Astil to be lying, that wouldn't be much of a wise move, especially this early in the game. However, I highly doubt that there would be two of the same role. But things are so screwy, idk if I should trust the idea that Derek blocked Anti. Maybe someone else threw everything for a loop with an ability last night?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Only so many roles. Some are bound to be doubles. This one's oddly specific, but I don't get why we're making this argument as a staple for why we should lynch a strong player.</p><p> </p><p> Right up there with using text color in write ups to determine stuff.</p>

[Wrestling Century]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Only so many roles. Some are bound to be doubles. This one's oddly specific, but I don't get why we're making this argument as a staple for why we should lynch a strong player.<p> </p><p> Right up there with using text color in write ups to determine stuff.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, I don't think we should lynch him. I'm just trying to figure out what's going on. Nobody's really sticking out to me as definite scum.</p>

[Astil]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Only so many roles. Some are bound to be doubles. This one's oddly specific, but I don't get why we're making this argument as a staple for why we should lynch a strong player.<p> </p><p> Right up there with using text color in write ups to determine stuff.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> We'll know tonight if there is a jailer in the write up. If not, then he's lying. Sound good? Until then</p><p> </p><p> <strong>Change Vote: Moon_lit_tears</strong></p>

[Astil]

Also if Derek turns red Arrows deserves a long, strong look as well. If not, then ignore this.

[Arrows]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Astil" data-cite="Astil" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Also if Derek turns red Arrows deserves a long, strong look as well. If not, then ignore this.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Always ready. That said, I'm town, and I don't know what side you or Derek are on. Can only go based on what I do know about the game. Derek acting like colors in write ups means something worries me more than two people having the same ability, honestly.</p>

[Destiny]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="machinesxe" data-cite="machinesxe" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Sorry I dipped out last couple days. Work got in the way. Lucky I didn’t get lynched though. A number of folks in that lynch group I find interesting as it was a fast push there. Keep your eyes on that.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm keeping my eyes on you also.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I also meant to mention that I directly quoted the Jail Keeper role for Destiny from the terminology thread. That wasn't just done to help him clarify the potential for the role, it was me making it clear who I was. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm not sure if there will be so many roles in this game that essentially roleblock.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'd also like to quickly point out a piece of slightly meta logic... <p> </p><p> I wouldn't claim to target someone if I'd known I'd been roleblocked. I didn't get any kind of PM saying I had been blocked. Whether town or scum, I'd have never claimed to target someone if I had known I'd been blocked. That would be nuts. So Astil's claim of saying I'm lying about who I targetted makes no sense.</p><p> </p><p> I'm not going to doubt his role or ability though. I'm not doubting his townieness either. Just want to use a little meta logic to support myself without tearing down anyone else. And hopefully no one will die that doesn't need to.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> My vote is staying on Derek for the time being for a few reasons. There's something going on here.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I really wish I could edit posts sometimes, I hate multiposting.<p> </p><p> I've got about 30 to 45 minutes left before I go to bed and that <em>might</em> be the last that I'm on for this phase as I'm going to be busy the next couple of days. I've laid out everything I've got and I've asked Astil some things that presumably he is the only one that can confirm.</p><p> </p><p> My mafia rust may be showing, but is Physician a common alternate name for Jail Keeper? I don't remember ever seeing it before, but I don't remember a lot of things. It's the only thing that bothers me about Astil's claim, but it's more for a lack of knowledge on my side than because I doubt him. I literally don't doubt his claim at all and I want to make that very clear for later on if this becomes an issue.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I forgot to quote the post where you posted your role title but I am more inclined to believe Astil's.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="machinesxe" data-cite="machinesxe" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well besides reading the suspense today to see if I got deep 6ed right off the rip. Not much except I’m interested in a number of folks who kind of slid there votes in the middle. I don’t know about the one that would’ve hit me late but I’m interested in a few others, I assume some of the same that others are looking at. <p> </p><p> That said being that close to death and keeping my feet to the fire from the start could keep me alive a little longer as both the scum will want to have the town day phase me and they won’t want to waste their kill on me at night. Always safer being in the middle than on one side too much.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It may be good for you personally if your aim is to stay alive but if you're town you shouldn't want us wasting time on you every day.</p>

[moon_lit_tears]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Astil" data-cite="Astil" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>We'll know tonight if there is a jailer in the write up. If not, then he's lying. Sound good? Until then<p> </p><p> <strong>Change Vote: Moon_lit_tears</strong></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> And why am I the go to?</p>

[Destiny]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moon_lit_tears" data-cite="moon_lit_tears" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And why am I the go to?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Why not? You're as good an option as anyone. Honestly, I remember you acting like this when you were scum before. You're usually a lot more active and helpful when town.</p>

[BHK1978]

<p>First off good look Anti I hope everything turns out alright for you.</p><p> </p><p> Congratulations Outlaw!</p><p> </p><p> One more thing, I thought there was a function on this board where you could reenter a thread and snap back to the last post that you read. If so how does one do that? Because I either head to the first page or the last page and I have to hunt down the place I left off.</p><p> </p><p> Okay now back to game stuff...</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>Only so many roles. Some are bound to be doubles. </strong></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Has that been done much in prior games (some roles being double)? Honestly it has been so long that I do not really remember jack you know what about stuff.</p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p>----</p></div><p></p><p></p><p> In regards to the Astil/Derek situation, I am not sure what to do. It is one of those things where I would like to see something happen so that this does not drag on but I am not sure what is the right course of action we should take. I mean if they are good with trying their experiment, I would be good with that. </p><p> </p><p> However, right now I am leaning towards trusting Astil more than Derek because simply put Derek has burned the town before and he would be ballsy enough to pull a play like this. Though at the same time part of me wants to believe that Derek is telling the truth because if he were scum I am not sure he would go out of his way to hurt his team this early in the game.</p><p> </p><p> I don't know right now I would say I am 55% towards trusting Astil and 45% towards thinking that Derek could be telling the truth. </p><p> </p><p> That being said if there is a push towards Derek I would be willing to vote for him. Though I probably will not be around much tomorrow during the day phase.</p>

[moon_lit_tears]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why not? You're as good an option as anyone. Honestly, I remember you acting like this when you were scum before. You're usually a lot more active and helpful when town.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> I’ve been busy, here but quiet. Honestly after my poor instincts in last game, I’m just licking my wounds right now.</p>

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>First off good <strong>luck </strong>Anti I hope everything turns out alright for you.<p> </p><p> Congratulations Outlaw!</p><p> </p><p> One more thing, I thought there was a function on this board where you could reenter a thread and snap back to the last post that you read. If so how does one do that? Because I either head to the first page or the last page and I have to hunt down the place I left off.</p><p> </p><p> Okay now back to game stuff...</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Has that been done much in prior games (some roles being double)? Honestly it has been so long that I do not really remember jack you know what about stuff.</p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p>----</p></div><p></p><p></p><p> In regards to the Astil/Derek situation, I am not sure what to do. It is one of those things where I would like to see something happen so that this does not drag on but I am not sure what is the right course of action we should take. I mean if they are good with trying their experiment, I would be good with that. </p><p> </p><p> However, right now I am leaning towards trusting Astil more than Derek because simply put Derek has burned the town before and he would be ballsy enough to pull a play like this. Though at the same time part of me wants to believe that Derek is telling the truth because if he were scum I am not sure he would go out of his way to hurt his team this early in the game.</p><p> </p><p> I don't know right now I would say I am 55% towards trusting Astil and 45% towards thinking that Derek could be telling the truth. </p><p> </p><p> That being said if there is a push towards Derek I would be willing to vote for him. Though I probably will not be around much tomorrow during the day phase.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> EBWOP</p><p> </p><p> Not sure why I typed look there but I meant luck.</p>

[moon_lit_tears]

When you see new posts fir a thread, to the left of the title is a little square envelope? Clicking that takes you to your last read.

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moon_lit_tears" data-cite="moon_lit_tears" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>When you see new posts fir a thread, to the left of the title is a little square envelope? Clicking that takes you to your last read.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thank you</p><p> </p><p> I guess that is what I get for not coming on here as much as I used to. I have forgotten how to use the site.</p>

[Destiny]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>First off good look Anti I hope everything turns out alright for you.<p> </p><p> Congratulations Outlaw!</p><p> </p><p> One more thing, I thought there was a function on this board where you could reenter a thread and snap back to the last post that you read. If so how does one do that? Because I either head to the first page or the last page and I have to hunt down the place I left off.</p><p> </p><p> Okay now back to game stuff...</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <strong>Has that been done much in prior games (some roles being double)? Honestly it has been so long that I do not really remember jack you know what about stuff.</strong></p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><p>----</p></div><p></p><p></p><p> In regards to the Astil/Derek situation, I am not sure what to do. It is one of those things where I would like to see something happen so that this does not drag on but I am not sure what is the right course of action we should take. I mean if they are good with trying their experiment, I would be good with that. </p><p> </p><p> However, right now I am leaning towards trusting Astil more than Derek because simply put Derek has burned the town before and he would be ballsy enough to pull a play like this. Though at the same time part of me wants to believe that Derek is telling the truth because if he were scum I am not sure he would go out of his way to hurt his team this early in the game.</p><p> </p><p> I don't know right now I would say I am 55% towards trusting Astil and 45% towards thinking that Derek could be telling the truth. </p><p> </p><p> That being said if there is a push towards Derek I would be willing to vote for him. Though I probably will not be around much tomorrow during the day phase.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I can't remember a game where there were duplicate roles, or even three or more of the similar roles.</p>

[eayragt]

<p>I'm so confused.</p><p> </p><p>

I believe Derek's claim. </p><p> </p><p>

I'm skeptical of Astil's claim. </p><p> </p><p>

I can't think of any way that Astil's claim would be a good scum move. </p><p> </p><p>

I know Astil is a good player. </p><p> </p><p>

I'm really not convinced both of these roles are in the game. </p><p> </p><p>

I cannot think of any logical situation apart from they are both in the game. </p><p> </p><p>

So... Anti having an optional role still looks interesting. Vote stays.</p>

[Destiny]

Based on my role, and my role title, I am more inclined to believe Astil. I am worried we are going to stutter towards another no lynch today if we don't take decisive action.

[BlueStar]

<p>OOC : best of luck, Anti and congrats Outlaw!</p><p> </p><p>

Interesting discussion that all started when Astil played his trump card. I'm leaving the vote where it is. Astil didn't jail the hitman but he might have jailed the SK or scum with an active role.</p>

[BHK1978]

<p>The whole thing is a cluster you know what. I am inclined to agree with Destiny's last post. Which is why I shall...</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Vote: Derek B</strong></p><p> </p><p>

I am not sure if I will miss the rest of the day phase or not so I am putting my vote down.</p><p> </p><p>

If the town decides to allow Astil and Derek to do their experiment so be it.</p>

[Destiny]

I'm really failing to see how this "experiment" will help anything, assuming one of them is a scum roleblocker.