Official Game Thread- Barebones 4 Mafia (The Revival November 2018)

[Arrows]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Two Jailer type roles, one supersedes the other. Is that a mod call or is it a who gets their PM in first call?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> When one targets two and two targets someone else? One. When one targets two and two targets one? World explodes? *Shrugs* If Astil's telling the truth, after the game Outlaw, you'll have to tell us what you would've done if they targeted each other.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>can someone clarify something for me, since in the write-up before he got killed Phoenix was with someone right? I am curious if something happened to the person he was with? or am I just reading into it too much?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> See: Crychon</p>

[Arrows]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>When one targets two and two targets someone else? One. When one targets two and two targets one? World explodes? *Shrugs* If Astil's telling the truth, after the game Outlaw, you'll have to tell us what you would've done if they targeted each other.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> See: Crychon</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Forget that last bit. Had the two deaths reversed in my notes for some reason.<img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Don't mind the idiot.</p>

[Crychon]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>can someone clarify something for me, since in the write-up before he got killed Phoenix was with someone right? I am curious if something happened to the person he was with? or am I just reading into it too much?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> They were most likely role blocked because that's what Eternal Phoenix's role was.</p>

[Leion]

Thanks for the replies guys, now it makes me curious who Phoenix chose to role block, if it was just at random or maybe he was on to someone, I hope someone out there knows something.

[Destiny]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>No. Anti targeting me and acting like he was going to draw a weapon prompted someone to stop him from doing so.<p> </p><p> I'm going with that's a protector on me. I don't feel like that's a leap to make, especially after dying the same night last game, and Derek being gone. I'd do it if I were maf. It would amuse me. Stupid things amuse me, though, so maybe that's just me.</p><p> </p><p> I'm sure enough I outed my ability.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I see. If that's the case I'm going to add my vote later, hard to format properly on my phone. Phoenix was scum, Leion.</p>

[Leion]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I see. If that's the case I'm going to add my vote later, hard to format properly on my phone. Phoenix was scum, Leion.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I know that, I just got a little bit confused about if the person he targeted was a person with an ability, but thinking about it know, I guess it would better to say nothing about it anymore, especially if that someone does have an ability. </p><p> </p><p> Nevertheless, I will follow on Arrows & Crychon's lead </p><p> </p><p> <strong>Vote: Antithesis</strong></p><p> </p><p> I want to know what he has to say.</p>

[eayragt]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>When one targets two and two targets someone else? One. When one targets two and two targets one? World explodes? *Shrugs* If Astil's telling the truth, after the game Outlaw, you'll have to tell us what you would've done if they targeted each other.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> See: Crychon</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The top bits mod kill. And we are still not 100% sure Astil's ability works like he thinks, given his obscure pm. </p><p> </p><p> Anyway <strong>vote: Antithesis</strong> again.</p>

[eayragt]

<p>Mod's choice, not kill. Some do different things.</p><p> </p><p>

I clearly wasn't concentrating when typing...</p>

[The Archer]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>My target targeted me last night.<p> </p><p> <strong>Vote: Antithesis</strong></p><p> </p><p> Wonder what he was reaching for?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> if this is you. looks like a save from someone and a solid direction to go. </p><p> <strong>vote:antithesis</strong></p>

[BHK1978]

<p>Well once again I am not going to be on until tomorrow night my time. </p><p> </p><p>

Therefore, I am going to...</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Vote: Antithesis</strong></p>

[theoutlaw321]

<p><strong>Antithesis-6</strong></p><p><strong>

</strong> (Arrows, Crychon, Leion, eayragt, The Archer, BHK1978)</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

<strong>It is now DAY PHASE. With 22 players remaining, it's 12 to lynch. </strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong>

You have until 6:00PM EST (11:00PM GMT) on Friday, November 23rd to reach a majority vote. If no vote has been reached at that time, a No Lynch will be declared.</strong></p><p><strong>

As always, if you see a mistake point it out.</strong></p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="font-size:12px;">Happy Thanksgiving!</span></strong></p>

[Jaded]

<p>I can get behind this; evidence seems pretty compelling.</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Vote: antithesis</strong></p>

[Rayelek]

<p>Just got home from closing shift at work. Not sure when I'll get a chance to post full thoughts, if at all, as I'm on the road tomorrow & Friday, and Thursday is the holiday, but I'll try to at least check in and read on my phone. Also, </p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Vote: Antithesis</strong></p>

[BlueStar]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Astil" data-cite="Astil" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I was going to hold off but I thought about it and legit can't think of how this could hurt town.<p> </p><p> I targeted BlueStar</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I can understand that with my blatant pushing on Derek. Sorry Derek...</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Interesting. Always a good choice. Only way it really hurts is if he's scum and intended to try and claim doing something last night. Looks pretty good to not be a killer, at least.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If there's a fourth blocker, I'm not sure how we're supposed to get anything done at night.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Unless the blocker got blocked? <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[BlueStar]

Might be just fluff reading but the gun kill on N1 was done by a man in a nice suit, the kill N2 was done by a man in "all black".

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Might be just fluff reading but the gun kill on N1 was done by a man in a nice suit, the kill N2 was done by a man in "all black".</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Two different types of guns as well.</p>

[BlueStar]

Odds on the guy driving the van (whose van was sabotaged N1) being a killer?

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Odds on the guy driving the van (whose van was sabotaged N1) being a killer?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't know...I am thinking probably not. Mainly because the Poisoner and Rev's killer (Anti?) both killed. </p><p> </p><p> But what does have me confused in regards to that whole thing is the person who sabotaged the truck is listed as a male. At the time I assumed that bit as being about the Mafia's RB. However, the Mafia's RB (Phoenix) is clearly a woman in the N2 write-ups. So now I am not sure what is up with the whole van thing.</p><p> </p><p> Now I mean it, I am really gone of the night/morning. It sucks when you cannot sleep and it is 3:42 am. I need sleep.<img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't know...I am thinking probably not. Mainly because the Poisoner and Rev's killer (Anti?) both killed. <p> </p><p> But what does have me confused in regards to that whole thing is the person who sabotaged the truck is listed as a male. At the time I assumed that bit as being about the Mafia's RB. However, the Mafia's RB (Phoenix) is clearly a woman in the N2 write-ups. So now I am not sure what is up with the whole van thing.</p><p> </p><p> Now I mean it, I am really gone <strong>for</strong> the night/morning. It sucks when you cannot sleep and it is 3:42 am. I need sleep.<img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> EBWOP. I would chalk that up to lack of sleep, but yeah...it is just another one of my many typos.</p>

[Destiny]

I believe that puts us four away from Lynch. I'd hold off on this for now, especially considering we have an extended phase. Let's see what he has to say for himself.

[machinesxe]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Crychon" data-cite="Crychon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hmm.. Maybe the guy in green was trying to attack blue guy, and when he reached under his arm he was reaching for a gun. Third guy tackles everyone, perhaps scaring green guy off?<p> </p><p> Then a thief was in the mix and stole something.</p><p> </p><p> That's probably wrong. There's a lot going on there.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I believe you are very accurate in your call here. This seems pretty logical. If Arrows is truthful about who targeted him this makes sense in why there wasn’t the scum kill last night. </p><p> </p><p> I’m down for following this lead. </p><p> </p><p> <strong>Vote: Antithesis</strong></p>

[BlueStar]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I believe that puts us four away from Lynch. I'd hold off on this for now, especially considering we have an extended phase. Let's see what he has to say for himself.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'll be online most of the day here ... I think there's a good lead here but I'll hold off voring for now.</p>

[Antithesis]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I mean, if he wants to protect me, thanks? I don't know what I did that he thinks is suspicious. I'm not the guy trying to incite panic via text color, or the guy in a role claim battle with someone who's clearly the one telling the truth about that spot in the write up. Makes so much more sense to be Astil there.<p> </p><p> I could do one better, but I see no need to do so at the moment. I'd also like to request if we have an investigator paying attention, to not waste it on me tonight. Scum likes killing me early, no reason to get a result on a dead person. Or Derek will keep me, and I may not be open to be investigated and waste the night for them entirely.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> You know me, I'm all about making up nonsense hints on odd days, and making bold plays on evens. <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Games are more fun with Derek around, that's one of the main reasons my vote isn't on him right now. It's hard to remove myself from that bias without something concrete.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I imagine the scum have a role block. Could be that one, could be either one of the two people arguing right now. The scum could easily have a jailer, and this entire "would there be two?" thing goes out the window. That's more likely than the third being the scum roleblock, I think.<p> </p><p> Killing one, seeing blue, can we avoid lynching the other just to make sure? We're all still going to question there being two of them on the towns side. Can't come up with any other good way to sort this out though. Not easy to test that. Would need a tracker for the jailer, the jailer, and someone with an ability who'll admit to having one and then admit to being unable to use it the next morning.</p><p> </p><p> Even then, any combination could lie and mess the whole thing up.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Scummy scummy scummy.</p><p> </p><p> Will note even Arrows doesn't think there is that many Roleblockers... I think he begged off being watched because he didn't want his pocket bodyguard seen.</p><p> </p><p> Thing is when you spooled it out then voted on Derek, I thought it a switch for you. Enough to Vig you. Still don't know if we both just got lucky or you are the Don and was saved by a bodyguard. </p><p> </p><p> And to wit, I still don't know if Derek "blocked" me or not, again, obviously I didnt go out that night though. Its why I didnt vote for him, all that and Astil's 'odd's are' and 'seems unlikely'... yeah thats always strong evidence. You should have known that. I didnt see a problem with having them both tested but seemed like some folks didnt like that idea. So we got a dead townie with a power role. That said, I do think you are the Don.</p>

[Arrows]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Antithesis" data-cite="Antithesis" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Scummy scummy scummy.<p> </p><p> Will note even Arrows doesn't think there is that many Roleblockers... I think he begged off being watched because he didn't want his pocket bodyguard seen.</p><p> </p><p> Thing is when you spooled it out then voted on Derek, I thought it a switch for you. Enough to Vig you. Still don't know if we both just got lucky or you are the Don and was saved by a bodyguard. </p><p> </p><p> And to wit, I still don't know if Derek "blocked" me or not, again, obviously I didnt go out that night though. Its why I didnt vote for him, all that and Astil's 'odd's are' and 'seems unlikely'... yeah thats always strong evidence. You should have known that. I didnt see a problem with having them both tested but seemed like some folks didnt like that idea. So we got a dead townie with a power role. That said, I do think you are the Don.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So you are the Vig, and the mafia killed their own roleblocker? Is that what we're going with here?</p><p> </p><p> And I, as the Don as you seem to think, magically knew that you targeted me? What would I even be targeting you for, as the Don? Certainly not a kill. There's enough of those to account for everyone.</p><p> </p><p> So I've got a built in Don Bodyguard, a night ability of my own, and a way to know who targets me. Gotcha.</p>

[Destiny]

Antithesis, we're going to need a full role title at this point, please. It shouldn't be a problem for you.