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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don’t get why someone who admittedly hasn’t really read has such a hard read on me. I was thinking about switching my vote, but he is too confrontational for me to feel he is town.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well, you haven't exactly made a strong case for yourself either. Since wrestlemania is finished, I hope we could see more of you now.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Agree here if we go with Archer and he’s ends up town we just reset the next pase the except down one (or more) town. If we didn’t have any better leads I wouldn’t oppose it but as of now <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote: The Two</span></strong><p> </p><p> I do feel like this won’t motivate Archer to contribute though</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Let’s put this on there please <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The best player I know, statistics.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hmm, they can't be the best if they are wrong though. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This day phase has been a little weird to me. It has mainly been controlled by three people with a majority hanging back. My three top scum are Archer, Two and maybe Zergon. I think he might be hiding behind the new player a little too hard.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hmmm, who are those three specifically, because I think I counted more than that that were trying to figure things out, while I was reading from behind.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The best player I know, statistics.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ah, used to play with him. Dude was a prick. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Honestly though, never heard the "3rd vote is scum" rule. I like the logic and will keep that in the back of my head when examining votes. Even if it may not be as effective in this game now.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This day phase has been a little weird to me. It has mainly been controlled by three people with a majority hanging back. My three top scum are Archer, Two and maybe Zergon. I think he might be hiding behind the new player a little too hard.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think your Zergon read is off. It's his first ever game, not just first on GDS. And GDS mafia games are a bit more confusing than typical ones with all the roles at play.</p><p> </p><p> I'm trying to figure out how I feel about the Archer/Lukess back and forth going on. Part of me thinks Archer found someone on a ton of scum lists and is going after him to look like town. Part of me thinks Lukess is playing passive this game, which I'm not a fan of either.</p><p> </p><p> _____________________________________________________</p><p> </p><p> And on a different note, I'm seeing a recurring theme about not trusting "town leaders". Unless someone has a role that says otherwise, I don't see anyone appointed as a town leader. </p><p> </p><p> So you're saying not to trust "super-active" players. That's fine but the reason people trust super-active players are because usually they are the ones pushing along conversation and trying to find a path to go. If you don't agree with that path, push a different one instead. Don't instinctively follow them. But don't follow them and then push the blame onto them if the lynch is a wrong direction.</p><p> </p><p> Do I trust DJ or Opulent 100 million percent? Of course not.</p><p> But I'll hear him out and give their reads a chance to play out and see how people respond to the pressure. Because maybe there is something there.</p><p> </p><p> Without activity nothing happens during the day until we all pile on votes in the final 4 hours of the day phase on whomever was the last person to cough at the wrong time. And without players pushing conversations along, our lurking detective type players don't get any posts to analyze.</p><p> </p><p> That's a bit of a tangent, sorry about that.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don’t get why someone who admittedly hasn’t really read has such a hard read on me. I was thinking about switching my vote, but he is too confrontational for me to feel he is town.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> dude read i asked for time to read. did i vote u? no. was asked if had gun had to shoot someone wjo would i shoot. u. because u always do this thing u do. hyper defensive.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Two" data-cite="The Two" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Morning. I see more votes on me but still no questions, always a good thing.<p> </p><p> A lot of you have played with me before. If so, you'll know I have a policy on claiming. Let me be clear: It's not gonna happen.</p><p> </p><p> I'll also tell you this: You're making a big mistake. You're barking up the wrong tree. A lot of you are tunnelling, you've decided that I'm suspicious and now everything gets filtered through that lense. I don't think there's any way for me to change your mind, short of claiming, but I refuse to do that.</p><p> </p><p> I'm not accused of anything. I believe in protecting my role, and I'm not outing it for BS Day 2 "pressure".</p><p> </p><p> This is not what you want to do today, trust me. That's it.</p><p> </p><p> If you have any actual questions, I'll answer them.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> 1. What are your feelings on this day phase?</p><p> 2. How many players do you think are on the scum team?</p><p> 3. Team Archer, Team Lukess, or Team "Lynch 'em both and let the devil figure it out"?</p><p> 4. How many voters on you do you think are scum?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The best player I know, statistics.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> mindmeld. science.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This day phase has been a little weird to me. It has mainly been controlled by three people with a majority hanging back. My three top scum are Archer, Two and maybe Zergon. I think he might be hiding behind the new player a little too hard.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> weak. reasons for each.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This day phase has been a little weird to me. It has mainly been controlled by three people with a majority hanging back. My three top scum are Archer, Two and maybe Zergon. I think he might be hiding behind the new player a little too hard.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Archer" data-cite="The Archer" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>dude read i asked for time to read. did i vote u? no. was asked if had gun had to shoot someone wjo would i shoot. u. because u always do this thing u do. hyper defensive.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It’s not being defensive if I ask you why you would choose something. Trying to formulate better reads.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Archer" data-cite="The Archer" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>weak. reasons for each.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You haven’t given any good reads after disappearing for a phase, two is not giving good enough answers and given for zergon.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Ah, used to play with him. Dude was a prick. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Honestly though, never heard the "3rd vote is scum" rule. I like the logic and will keep that in the back of my head when examining votes. Even if it may not be as effective in this game now.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Scum typically aren't going to start or finish a bandwagon, instead they try to hide in the middle to "add pressure". With the amount of people we currently have, I'd say look in the 3 to 7 range. 3 is the magic number when you typically see scum jumping on.</p><p> </p><p> This is if the lynchee is town, if scum then it is a different situation.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You haven’t given any good reads after disappearing for a phase, two is not giving good enough answers and given for zergon.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> working on them. i dont trust anyone yet. that is troubling in itself.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Scum typically aren't going to start or finish a bandwagon, instead they try to hide in the middle to "add pressure". With the amount of people we currently have, I'd say look in the 3 to 7 range. 3 is the magic number when you typically see scum jumping on.<p> </p><p> This is if the lynchee is town, if scum then it is a different situation.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> preach!</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Archer" data-cite="The Archer" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>nope</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Are you all done reading the thread?</p><p> </p><p> Who would be your direction for day 3? </p><p> </p><p> Thoughts on Opulent and Blue?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Two" data-cite="The Two" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Morning. I see more votes on me but still no questions, always a good thing.<p> </p><p> A lot of you have played with me before. If so, you'll know I have a policy on claiming. Let me be clear: It's not gonna happen.</p><p> </p><p> I'll also tell you this: You're making a big mistake. You're barking up the wrong tree. A lot of you are tunnelling, you've decided that I'm suspicious and now everything gets filtered through that lense. I don't think there's any way for me to change your mind, short of claiming, but I refuse to do that.</p><p> </p><p> I'm not accused of anything. I believe in protecting my role, and I'm not outing it for BS Day 2 "pressure".</p><p> </p><p> This is not what you want to do today, trust me. That's it.</p><p> </p><p> If you have any actual questions, I'll answer them.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> /nod</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> So my fiery friend, do you think people are willfully ignoring you or just forgetful?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Anyway,</p><p> </p><p> To answer part of those 3 questions that are floating around out there.</p><p> </p><p> I feel much better about The Two today than yesterday or even earlier in the day.</p><p> </p><p> I think looking at the pilers on for this wagon is the way to go. </p><p> </p><p> And for me MLT is the right choice.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Scum typically aren't going to start or finish a bandwagon, instead they try to hide in the middle to "add pressure". With the amount of people we currently have, I'd say look in the 3 to 7 range. 3 is the magic number when you typically see scum jumping on.<p> </p><p> This is if the lynchee is town, if scum then it is a different situation.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's super interesting. I don't want to bog the game down with statistics stuff but that'd be fun to compare to previous games on here and see just how true it is.</p><p> </p><p> Anyways:</p><p> </p><p> So here's my problem at the moment. I'm feeling better about The Two than I did before. Not 100% better. But enough where I feel like I don't want him gone just yet. <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Change Vote: No Vote</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> I don't really feel particularly strong about either Archer or Lukess, my biggest complaint with both of them is inactivity and passiveness. And it looks like they're both done with that. I'm reading their conversation like two townies who both know they're a prime lynch target attacking each other to keep themselves alive. </p><p> </p><p> But I still think a lynch this day phase would be helpful for us in the long run (even if we were wrong about the target). So I'm going to go back to D1, read a bit and see if anything/anyone is standing out to me.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> To answer part of those 3 questions that are floating around out there.</p><p> </p><p> I feel much better about The Two today than yesterday or even earlier in the day.</p><p> </p><p> I think looking at the pilers on for this wagon is the way to go. </p><p> </p><p> And for me MLT is the right choice.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Interesting, we both seem to be on the same page. How confident do you feel about MLT? I'll give her a closer look.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moon_lit_tears" data-cite="moon_lit_tears" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Are you all done reading the thread?<p> </p><p> Who would be your direction for day 3? </p><p> </p><p> Thoughts on Opulent and Blue?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> opulent is tricky. i want time to watch and see. really strong player. great asset if town. can wreck us if not. </p><p> blue is quiet, but has said hes on holiday. </p><p> </p><p> as for strong lead? no one has screamed im scum. but if town and pressured you have to give me enough to change my mind.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You haven’t given any good reads after disappearing for a phase, two is not giving good enough answers and given for zergon.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Mind answering some of the questions asked by DJ, it would be helpful.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Archer" data-cite="The Archer" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>opulent is tricky. i want time to watch and see. really strong player. great asset if town. can wreck us if not. <p> blue is quiet, but has said hes on holiday. </p><p> </p><p> as for strong lead? no one has screamed im scum. but if town and pressured you have to give me enough to change my mind.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> How about DJ and TSS, they seem to be leading the charge for the town, same as Opulent. Any thoughts?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Archer" data-cite="The Archer" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>opulent is tricky. i want time to watch and see. really strong player. great asset if town. can wreck us if not. <p> blue is quiet, but has said hes on holiday. </p><p> </p><p> as for strong lead? no one has screamed im scum. but if town and pressured you have to give me enough to change my mind.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So if we were at phase end and your vote would cause a lynch, who would it be on? </p><p> </p><p> I’m pretty sure everyone has checked in so far so you have a slight tingle about everyone I’d hope.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Mind answering some of the questions asked by DJ, it would be helpful.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Can you post them again for reference</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>1. What are your feelings on this day phase?<p> 2. How many players do you think are on the scum team?</p><p> 3. Team Archer, Team Lukess, or Team "Lynch 'em both and let the devil figure it out"?</p><p> 4. How many voters on you do you think are scum?</p></div></blockquote><p> 1. A colossal fuster cluck.</p><p> 2. Game of this size, I'd estimate four. Give or take. </p><p> 3. Archer is shifty AF. Luke never does himself any favours with his nippy defensiveness. Neither are on my Christmas card list. </p><p> 4. One or two. I've been waiting for a "gotta do something" pile on in these final hours, half of whom would be scum. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>/nod<p> </p><p> So my fiery friend, do you think people are willfully ignoring you or just forgetful?</p></div></blockquote><p> I definitely think it's notable that a lot of people have been taking <em>about</em> me, but very few of them have had anything to say <em>to</em> me.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> 1. Who do you feel better/worse about this phase, that is different from the dayphase before? Please list at the very least one of each, you don't have to say why, just who.</p><p> </p><p> 2. If the mod sent you a PM saying this next night phase, you are a one time vigilante and must choose a target (no getting around it, as if you don't you shoot yourself), who would you pick? This answer can (and maybe should) be different then the first. An explanation would be nice but not needed.</p><p> </p><p> 3. Here is where I would like you to say what you are most curious/worried about this game. It can be anything, mentioned or unmentioned. You can also answer all the other normal questions that are asked. Speculate, whatever but say something.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> it was fairly easy to find, tbh, makes me wonder why you didn't do it yourself.</p>
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