Chaos On The Clarke! [Starship Mafia 1] Game Thread

[Guest Eliphas]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If you aren't scum, you will probably outlive most of us, since people here don't usually lynch new guys until it is blatantly obvious that you are scum. Can't say the same for the scum team though. <p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Well, I can see why you are getting frustrated then. It really sucks if no one is listening, but don't let it bring you down. If you keep up, I am sure you will have a bright future in mafia.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Why do I get the feeling that as you post these kind words you are snickering in scum chat about foretelling of events to come?</p>

[Leion]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why do I get the feeling that as you post these kind words you are snickering in scum chat about foretelling of events to come?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Paranoia? </p><p> </p><p> I assure you once we get to the end game, and look into the scum chat, you won't see my name anywhere near it. Well, except if scum was saying my name. But you get my point.</p>

[Imarevenant]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There are too many players being allowed to not play. I keep having to go back and look to see who is actually supposed to be in this game. Because I can only remember a few talking.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You are correct on this, we don't have the strict min post requirements that most boards do. We've done it here for a game or two but it was met with a ridiculous amount of resistance for a 5 post minimum (in a 48 hour phase).</p><p> </p><p> Personally, I view the quiet scum game is a bad tactic that will fail in the end anyway. Eventually they will be called out and will have absolutely nothing to clear themselves. Games where the town has had extremely poor play have been able to prevail against that tactic.</p><p> </p><p> Unfortunately we have people who play that way town or scum, so it's hit or miss in the early going what you are going to uncover when focusing on them. </p><p> </p><p> So for me, I like to watch and see who is adamant about pushing and lynching the quiet people. Scum like going for the easy mis-lynches early so it can be quite telling who harps on this phase after phase or who can only give quiet people in their suspicion lists. </p><p> </p><p> Anyway, that's my approach, your's might be different.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why do I get the feeling that as you post these kind words you are snickering in scum chat about foretelling of events to come?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Because he's scum, obviously</p>

[Guest Eliphas]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Paranoia? <p> </p><p> I assure you once we get to the end game, and look into the scum chat, you won't see my name anywhere near it. Well, except if scum was saying my name. But you get my point.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Why do I keep having to resist the urge to say no I don't want the Caravan, I don't care what kind of deal you can make me?</p>

[Imarevenant]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Paranoia? <p> </p><p> I assure you once we get to the end game, and look into the scum chat, you won't see my name anywhere near it. Well, except if scum was saying my name. But you get my point.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Changed your name on Discord did you? <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Rayelek]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So unofficial vote count:<p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Appreciate that, making it the official one. Sorry I vanished a little, 8 hours of work and then I crashed when I got home and slept for 12 hours.</p><p> </p><p> <strong>It is now Day Phase Three. With 20 people remaining, its 11 to lynch. You have until 14:30 GMT (9:30 EST) Saturday April 13, to reach a majority decision. If no majority is reached the day will end in a no lynch.</strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong>The Archer - 5</strong> (The Two, moon_lit_tears, Too Sweet Spartan, I effin rule, Teh_Showtime)</p><p> </p><p> <strong>djthefunkchris - 1</strong> (djthefunkchris)</p><p> </p><p> <strong>No Vote - 14</strong> ( bak42, BHK1978, Bluestar, Destiny, Eliphas, Emark, Eternal Phoenix, I effin rule, Imarevenant, Leion, lukess11, Michgcs, Opulent, Teh_Showtime, The Archer, Zergon, )</p><p> </p><p> Also note the times that phase ends. Derek used the old times, when this phase started, and thus ends, a little early.</p>

[Leion]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why do I keep having to resist the urge to say no I don't want the Caravan, I don't care what kind of deal you can make me?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Lol, I don't have anything to sell, I am just a broke university student. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Changed your name on Discord did you? <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Nope, didn't have to because I wasn't in it.</p>

[lukess11]

Don’t know when I’m gonna be back on so <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">vote: the archer</span></strong>

[Too Sweet Spartan]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Don’t know when I’m gonna be back on so <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">vote: the archer</span></strong></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Alright, that brings the vote to 6 of a needed 11.</p><p> </p><p> So this is where I'm at with this day phase. I feel pretty confident that Archer is scum, got angry he kept getting called out, and after being angry in thread he hasn't shown back up. Maybe he will again but I wouldn't be surprised if he will be avoiding this thread for the rest of the game.</p><p> </p><p> So I'm comfortable with my vote.</p><p> </p><p> If people aren't, lets explore what other options are out there and see if town is comfortable going that way. If we got Archer to pretty much L-1 I believe within the final hour of day phase last time, we can round up the votes if there is a compelling case to be made on someone.</p><p> </p><p> So, we have a small bit of time. Let's explore.</p><p> </p><p> Along those lines:</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Do you have an ability?<p> Do you go out at night?</p><p> Can you make arrests where those arrested are no longer part of the game?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <strong>MLT:</strong> There was much to do about asking the question, disrespect, lynching town leaders, self votes, soylent green being people, etc. But we never got an answer. When MLT is here, hopefully she does give Eliphas an answer to these.</p><p> </p><p> <strong>Mich:</strong> What do you feel about the thoughts that you are scum? How do you feel about being lumped in with Archer? Eliphas? What are your current reads?</p><p> </p><p> <strong>Bak:</strong> What do you feel about the thoughts that you are scum? How do you feel about being lumped in with Archer? Eliphas? What are your current reads?</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If anyone watched me night 1, and you saw someone target me, please say who it was. I believe one was good and one was bad (if there were two), but if only one, someone lied very early in the thread, and they are most definitely not crew.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <strong>Showtime</strong>: Is this you? Are you lying? <span style="color:#FFFFFF;">You legally have to tell me if you are.</span></p>

[moon_lit_tears]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There's no need to get upset. This is a game. But it doesn't feel good to have your name mentioned over and over does it? <p> </p><p> Do you have an ability?</p><p> Do you go out at night?</p><p> Can you make arrests where those arrested are no longer part of the game?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I’m not upset. I’m frustrated that so many people are not posting. </p><p> </p><p> I’ve pretty much answered all this but I’ll do it again. </p><p> </p><p> Yes</p><p> I can</p><p> No I do not</p>

[Too Sweet Spartan]

Thanks, MLT. I don't know if there was a significance to those questions but I figured they should be answered.

[Teh_Showtime]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> <strong>Showtime</strong>: Is this you? Are you lying? <span style="color:#FFFFFF;">You legally have to tell me if you are.</span></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Zero chance</p>

[Too Sweet Spartan]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Zero chance</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Alright, thanks. I guess I didn't really think that question through.</p><p> </p><p> Here's a better one. What's your reads at the moment? And where do you think your vote is going to go this phase?</p>

[Teh_Showtime]

<p>Voted on archer some time ago and don’t see it changing yet</p><p> </p><p>

Eliphas defending Archer is WILD to me, like why even take that risk at all if you’re town, the only logical reason to go so hard for someone is if they’re both scum. At best you’re defending someone you don’t know at all (cause you’re town and don’t know jack)</p><p> </p><p>

Wish a few key names would contribute soon like Opulent, Destiny, Blue.</p><p> </p><p>

Reads are futile right now we’re spinning our wheels and nothing can really happen until we complete a lynch. It might sound aggressive but it’s true. On the meta level we know that the games here are becoming less role oriented so not using the biggest way to get information in the open is just gonna kill us silently every night phase</p>

[Guest Eliphas]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Zero chance</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Zero chance that it is you? Or that you are lying? Or that you are answering? </p><p> </p><p> Just for clarification purposes.</p>

[Too Sweet Spartan]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Voted on archer some time ago and don’t see it changing yet</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ah, missed your vote there. My bad.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Reads are futile right now we’re spinning our wheels and nothing can really happen until we complete a lynch. It might sound aggressive but it’s true. On the meta level we know that the games here are becoming less role oriented so not using the biggest way to get information in the open is just gonna kill us silently every night phase</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's real. I'm optimistic that Archer is scum but at the very least, we'll finally get some voting information to work with. May be helpful next phase, or 5 phases from now, but it'll finally be something. I think it was Rev or DJ who said earlier that it feels like we're on day phase 1 part 3 and I haven't been able to get it out of my head. It feels pretty accurate for our current situation. </p><p> </p><p> Hopefully the game will pick up after this phase. I'm already seeing signs of people getting more confident/vocal about their reads which is nice.</p>

[Too Sweet Spartan]

<p>Alright, I'm about to head out within the next hour. Driving to visit the mother in law this weekend so I'll have very limited internet access pretty much all of </p><p>

tonight, tomorrow, and early Sunday. I might be able to post a tiny bit but honestly don't think I'll be able to. I'll read up when I get back.</p>

[Guest Opulent]

Letting people know I’m alive. Had a horridly busy couple of days, should have given some heads up. Planning a large catch up post in 4-5 hours. Sorry for the lack of activity

[djthefunkchris]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I wasn't fooled. I had him on day one. No one would listen to me. I was the seer but the rules didn't allow role or flavor claims. And I was being dismissed alot like I am here because I am new.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's not me you're talking about at all is it?</p>

[michgcs]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>Mich:</strong> What do you feel about the thoughts that you are scum? How do you feel about being lumped in with Archer? Eliphas? What are your current reads?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't know how many people actually think I'm scum; it's due to me being quiet, I know, but at this point I don't have anything concrete and I feel it's for the best that I hang back. </p><p> </p><p> Is anyone lumping me in with Archer or Eliphas? I mean, nothing against them and the game can get emotional and all (I've been there) but as the day goes on I can definitely see how it appears that Eliphas is covering for Archer, and Archer not bothering to come back on seems scummy as heck (if he gave a reason then ai apologize for missing it).</p><p> </p><p> Right now I'm wary of someone. Not gonna say who just yet because as I said I don't have anything concrete and outright questioning could get us both killed so unless more info comes to light I think it'd be best to keep it for another day. </p><p> </p><p> At this point, after Archer's disappearance I'd be more than happy to drop a vote, either to lynch or to put pressure. </p><p> </p><p> <strong> </strong><strong><span style="color:#FF0000;"> Vote: The Archer</span></strong><strong> </strong></p>

[Rayelek]

<p><strong>It is now Day Phase Three. With 20 people remaining, its 11 to lynch. You have until 14:30 GMT (9:30 EST) Saturday April 13, to reach a majority decision. If no majority is reached the day will end in a no lynch.</strong></p><p> </p><p>

<strong>The Archer - 7</strong> (The Two, moon_lit_tears, Too Sweet Spartan, I effin rule, Teh_Showtime, lukess11, Michgcs )</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>djthefunkchris - 1</strong> (djthefunkchris)</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>No Vote - 12</strong> ( bak42, BHK1978, Bluestar, Destiny, Eliphas, Emark, Eternal Phoenix, I effin rule, Imarevenant, Leion, Opulent, Teh_Showtime, The Archer, Zergon, )</p>

[Guest Eliphas]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That's not me you're talking about at all is it?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I haven't decided on you tbh. I don't know whether you are town or scum I am still working thru it.</p>

[Guest Eliphas]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="michgcs" data-cite="michgcs" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't know how many people actually think I'm scum; it's due to me being quiet, I know, but at this point I don't have anything concrete and I feel it's for the best that I hang back. <p> </p><p> Is anyone lumping me in with Archer or Eliphas? I mean, nothing against them and the game can get emotional and all (I've been there) but as the day goes on I can definitely see how it appears that Eliphas is covering for Archer, and Archer not bothering to come back on seems scummy as heck (if he gave a reason then ai apologize for missing it).</p><p> </p><p> Right now I'm wary of someone. Not gonna say who just yet because as I said I don't have anything concrete and outright questioning could get us both killed so unless more info comes to light I think it'd be best to keep it for another day. </p><p> </p><p> At this point, after Archer's disappearance I'd be more than happy to drop a vote, either to lynch or to put pressure. </p><p> </p><p> <strong> </strong><strong><span style="color:#FF0000;"> Vote: The Archer</span></strong><strong> </strong></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You haven't heard? The whole team was named.</p>

[bak42]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not much to go on. Is this normal for him?<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Really the only post he has that has any content to it. And it's very little. Disputes the theory posed of the Marshall being the SK. Other than that there's helping of Zergon in the thread. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="bak42" data-cite="bak42" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> And spends this one telling why he's not posting. </p><p> </p><p> Honestly could be laying slank cover. Or because he's not the only one that seems to use this tactic here it may be NAI. Again with no game experience it is hard to say. The other game replaced or modkilled players with less that 10 posts per phase. This couldn't happen.</p></div></blockquote>I'll be perfectly honest, I haven't posted much these last few phases in part because I don't have any useful information or theories to share, but primarily because I have been so infuriated and frustrated by people who are saying that my observational (as opposed to confrontational) play style is essentially wrong. I almost rage quit and asked to be replaced as a result. Now I tried to not take is personally, but when you're being told that the way you've always played is wrong, it's kind of hard not to talk it personally at least a little bit.<p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>Bak:</strong> What do you feel about the thoughts that you are scum?</div></blockquote>I think people are looking for an easy lynch and inactives are usually easy lynches.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>At this point, I am actually leaning town on Archer, so I don't have a problem with being lumped in with him. I feel like he was doing in the thread, the same thing that I stepped away from the computer to avoid doing in the thread.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Nothing has really jumped out at me, could be town or could be scum doing a good job of appearing town.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> There hasn't really been anything so far that I've seen that has stood out to me as being particularly scummy. But my scumdar is still not working as accurately as it has in the past.</p></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote>

[Guest Eliphas]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I like this question. For me, I'm assuming 5 person team. Nothing to back that up but last game I underestimated so I'd rather overestimate this time to be safe:<p> </p><p> 1. Archer</p><p> 2. Mich</p><p> 3. Bak</p><p> 4. Eliphas or Blue</p><p> 5. Leion? EP? I don't have much of an idea.</p><p> </p><p> At this point, this is where I'm at if I had to guess full team right now.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> ...</p>