Teh_Showtime Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Why would the crew need a bodyguard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 <p><strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">vote: Bluestar</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> Forgot to do that earlier</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For night 5, meant to say TSS. It's late and I am so tired.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Can you see yourself in the write-ups?</p><p> Were you successful night 5?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">vote: Bluestar</span></strong><p> </p><p> Forgot to do that earlier</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> What if I was right?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 We still haven't heard from Opulent this phase, right? I'm not sold on lukesss claim but I'm unwilling to let somebody go through the whole day phase without posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukess11 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Can you see yourself in the write-ups?<p> Were you successful night 5?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> First part: Nope.</p><p> </p><p> Second part: I assume so. Didn't get told I wasn't.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukess11 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Going to bed so will be able to answer more in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>First part: Nope.<p> </p><p> Second part: I assume so. Didn't get told I wasn't.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hmm... Weird if he is what he claims.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>First part: Nope.<p> </p><p> Second part: I assume so. Didn't get told I wasn't.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> TSS claims he was able to hide behind you so you must be town but you were able to protect him? Did you get a PM when you failed before?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Sweet Spartan Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 <p>On my phone, was planning on catching up but not posting tonight but Lukess' response made me feel the need to jump on and defend myself. Forgive typos, though I think I caught them all.</p><p> </p><p> First off:</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>@TSS In case you didn't see it, I asked if you were sure you die if you hide behind scum. <a href="https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Hider" rel="external nofollow">https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Hider</a><p> </p><p> Sometimes if your target is killed, you die, sometimes if you target scum, you die, sometimes you just don't die period.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> My role said I'd die if my target dies or if I target scum. That's pretty much the only reason I am so steadfast that Lukess is town. The only way he wouldn't be town would be if showtime has been doing a lot of bus'ing on him (I think, don't know how busdriver works truthfully). And I'd think Showtime would've brought that up if that was what happened.</p><p> </p><p> Lukess is coming off super scummy to me and it is extremely frustrating to be in a situation where I have to keep defending someone who I know is town to prevent them from getting themselves killed and potentially costing town the game in the long run. If it were D3, I'd probably just let him do it and keep note of who votes when. But at this point another mislynch, especially a protection role one apparently, would really suck for town. So I'm stuck jumping into arguments where I agree with the people I'm pushing back against.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>First part: Nope.<p> </p><p> Second part: I assume so. Didn't get told I wasn't.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Would you have a reason to be told? Do you get PMs back after your night protections telling you if they are a success?</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hmm... Weird if he is what he claims.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I genuinely do not understand Lukess. If he's saying he targeted me, that is fine. But if he thinks it succeeded, he's wrong.</p><p> </p><p> Like I said, I believe Mich can confirm that I am a hider. Bak tried for me and failed too. Others as well, I'd assume. Literally if anyone else has tried targeting me at all this game and gets to see their results they should be able to attest to getting no results. I'm what I say I am.</p><p> </p><p> As for me, I still feel you're the right direction for today DJ. I feel like I stated my case, I have good reasoning, I push and push and push and end up feeling like these posts feel like shouting in the wind. Which is super annoying because it isn't even just mafia that keep trying to shift attention away, at a certain point I have to accept that the rest of town are still not confident on this route. They'll agree you're being scummy. They'll say they don't trust you. And then they'll join right in on the Blue vote that has been set up now (not that I have much better feeling about him anyway).</p><p> </p><p> I'm not trying to complain, I am genuinely enjoying this game and the challenges it has brought. It has been fun/unique and allowing me to grow as a player.</p><p> </p><p> But at some point I have to wonder what more I can even do to get people to trust my read. I'm genuinely willing to be lynched if I'm wrong about this one. I don't know how to get more aggressive than that.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michgcs Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Didn't you mention that there was one unsuccessful? Care to share the name?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> TSS.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Leion and mchgs, Take some of these off this list when you get to it please.<p> </p><p> SCUM LIST</p><p> </p><p> 1. Lukess11</p><p> 2. Destiny</p><p> 6. Imarevenant</p><p> 10. Bluestar</p><p> 16. Moon lit tears</p><p> 17. Zergon</p><p> 18. Teh Showtime</p><p> 19. Paws7297//Opulent</p><p> 20. Emark</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> Rev and MLT came up town.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Sweet Spartan Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="michgcs" data-cite="michgcs" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>TSS.<p> </p><p> Rev and MLT came up town.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thank you Mich for both of those answers.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michgcs Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It could help, I think it'd make sense to share.<p> </p><p> Also: What do you think of my 3 potential scum list? And who would be on your 3 potential scum list?</p><p> </p><p> As pretty much one of the few people straight up confirmed not to be mafia, I think your reads will hold a lot of weight in where we decide to go today.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> N1- Rev (loyal) </p><p> </p><p> N2- TSS (unsuccessful)</p><p> </p><p> N3- IER (not loyal)</p><p> </p><p> N4- Leion (loyal)</p><p> </p><p> N5- MLT (loyal)</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> TBH I'm leaning towards dj being scum. Bluestar I think is scum as well. Destiny is a bit hard to read. Although dj's (early?) theory that Rev might be the don is plausible as well at this point.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michgcs Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Although going back and reading everyone's exchange, I'm not so sure about dj. I had a suspicion he was a vote manipulator given he voted on himself and Archer got lynched early. But then again that could be the scum being scum. I don't know. Either way I doubt I'm gonna make it to the end of the game so /shrug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 You're lucky that finding red scum is our priority today, but I am worrying that you'll be out recruiting tonight. <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Change Vote: Opulent</span></strong> for now and I'd encourage others to do so, let's draw him out. We have at least four scum left, chances are he's one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I've claimed in my second or third post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You're lucky that finding red scum is our priority today, but I am worrying that you'll be out recruiting tonight. <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Change Vote: Opulent</span></strong> for now and I'd encourage others to do so, let's draw him out. We have at least four scum left, chances are he's one of them.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Fine with this as well...</p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Change vote: Opulent</span></strong></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've claimed in my second or third post...</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I must have missed that. If it's obvious and it's out there already, do you mind making a little easier for me to help ease my thoughts about you? Starting to try to whittle down those left in terms of who might be scum.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michgcs Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You're lucky that finding red scum is our priority today, but I am worrying that you'll be out recruiting tonight. <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Change Vote: Opulent</span></strong> for now and I'd encourage others to do so, let's draw him out. We have at least four scum left, chances are he's one of them.</div></blockquote><p> How am I lucky? I've lost the game either way, I doubt anyone's going to believe that I'm back to being blue so I'm probably gonna get lynched soon. I'm just trying to help the town right now to the best of my ability.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I must have missed that. If it's obvious and it's out there already, do you mind making a little easier for me to help ease my thoughts about you? Starting to try to whittle down those left in terms of who might be scum.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm as Archer and EP ... a redshirt.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Or a redshirt. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> ahh, Hmm.</p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#FF0000;"><strong>Changevote: No Vote</strong></span></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>On my phone, was planning on catching up but not posting tonight but Lukess' response made me feel the need to jump on and defend myself. Forgive typos, though I think I caught them all.<p> </p><p> First off:</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> My role said I'd die if my target dies or if I target scum. That's pretty much the only reason I am so steadfast that Lukess is town. The only way he wouldn't be town would be if showtime has been doing a lot of bus'ing on him (I think, don't know how busdriver works truthfully). And I'd think Showtime would've brought that up if that was what happened.</p><p> </p><p> Lukess is coming off super scummy to me and it is extremely frustrating to be in a situation where I have to keep defending someone who I know is town to prevent them from getting themselves killed and potentially costing town the game in the long run. If it were D3, I'd probably just let him do it and keep note of who votes when. But at this point another mislynch, especially a protection role one apparently, would really suck for town. So I'm stuck jumping into arguments where I agree with the people I'm pushing back against.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Would you have a reason to be told? Do you get PMs back after your night protections telling you if they are a success?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I genuinely do not understand Lukess. If he's saying he targeted me, that is fine. But if he thinks it succeeded, he's wrong.</p><p> </p><p> Like I said, I believe Mich can confirm that I am a hider. Bak tried for me and failed too. Others as well, I'd assume. Literally if anyone else has tried targeting me at all this game and gets to see their results they should be able to attest to getting no results. I'm what I say I am.</p><p> </p><p> As for me, I still feel you're the right direction for today DJ. I feel like I stated my case, I have good reasoning, I push and push and push and end up feeling like these posts feel like shouting in the wind. Which is super annoying because it isn't even just mafia that keep trying to shift attention away, at a certain point I have to accept that the rest of town are still not confident on this route. They'll agree you're being scummy. They'll say they don't trust you. And then they'll join right in on the Blue vote that has been set up now (not that I have much better feeling about him anyway).</p><p> </p><p> I'm not trying to complain, I am genuinely enjoying this game and the challenges it has brought. It has been fun/unique and allowing me to grow as a player.</p><p> </p><p> But at some point I have to wonder what more I can even do to get people to trust my read. I'm genuinely willing to be lynched if I'm wrong about this one. I don't know how to get more aggressive than that.</p></div></blockquote>Or you're doing the whole Dragon thing where you and Rey vouched for each other. ROAR! and all that.<img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Lukes is lukes, don't worry too much about him. We see what you said, and to be honest, all evidence points to you being correct. I don't know what I can say about lukes at this point though. Only reason why I asked about you knowing for sure is because of everything you just pointed out. I don't know why, but I'm fine with the whole thing. Lukes can stay scummy looking if that's what he wants to do, and you can keep defending him if you want to. I'm fine with all of that, but really need to scum hunt at some point.</p><p> </p><p> You think I'm scum, but I'm telling you you're wrong. I don't mind you trying to lynch me, but quit offering yourself up as a lynch candidate if you're wrong, because... You are most definitely wrong. If I die (no matter, lynch or something suicidal) I flip town, and you end up feeling like I did with Archer. Just say "Guys, I really think DJ is the way to go today" and encourage it that way.</p><p> </p><p> Anyways, do we believe mchgs or not? IF he still keeps his ability no matter when he was cult and when he's not, doesn't sit well with me. I don't know though, he was only cult for one night, right? So, it's possible he was recruited and used his ability at the same time?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="michgcs" data-cite="michgcs" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>N1- Rev (loyal) <p> </p><p> N2- TSS (unsuccessful)</p><p> </p><p> N3- IER (not loyal)</p><p> </p><p> N4- Leion (loyal)</p><p> </p><p> N5- MLT (loyal)</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> TBH I'm leaning towards dj being scum. Bluestar I think is scum as well. Destiny is a bit hard to read. Although <strong>dj's (early?) theory that Rev might be the don </strong>is plausible as well at this point.</p></div></blockquote><p> I have no theory on Rev. IF I even said that, it was just to remind people that scum can have a Don that comes up town, they can also have a framer, making someone come up scum if investigated, or making someone look town if investigated.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>ahh, Hmm.<p> </p><p> <span style="color:#FF0000;"><strong>Changevote: No Vote</strong></span></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You're willing to believe that there are more vanillas now, right? As for michgcs, I'm 87% sure he's still cult.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You're willing to believe that there are more vanillas now, right? As for michgcs, I'm 87% sure he's still cult.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> He claimed that a very long time ago. NO, I'm not willing to believe for a fact anything to be totally honest with you... </p><p> </p><p> Look at this. </p><p> </p><p> 17. Zergon</p><p> 19. Paws7297//Opulent</p><p> 20. Emark</p><p> </p><p> This is who it leaves if everything everyone said is totally 100% correct. Only three? I doubt it, but hey, at least those three are 87% most probable.</p><p> </p><p> 1. Lukess11 - Bodyguard</p><p> 2. Destiny - Vanilla</p><p> 5. Leion - Good guy</p><p> 6. Imarevenant - Come up town according to Mchgs</p><p> 10. Bluestar - Vanilla</p><p> 12. djthefunkchris - Vig</p><p> 13. Michgcs - Cult/Investigator</p><p> 15. Too Sweet Spartan - Hider</p><p> 16. Moon lit tears - ?Come up town according to mchgs</p><p> 17. Zergon - ?</p><p> 18. Teh Showtime - bus driver (needs to tell us what he did, so we know results are good if honest)</p><p> 19. Paws7297//Opulent - ?</p><p> 20. Emark - ?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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