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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="michgcs" data-cite="michgcs" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Interesting.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Hmm.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Well I trust Rev right now and I'm not scum so there's at least two wrong on your list.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Anyway, I know I haven't done that good of a job but I'd like to believe that there's a fine line between keeping a low profile and being scummy. And though I may look scummy, I assure everyone that I am fully loyal to the crew.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Having said that, I would like to implore everyone to vote for someone who <em>isn't</em>.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote: i effin rule</span></strong></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote: I Effin Rule</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> If there is a non town result then this is the direction that needs to be followed.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>or maybe a hint<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Curious as to who</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> but this is even better.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This interests me as well. Have you gotten the answers you were looking for earlier?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Emark" data-cite="Emark" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I was pretty much doing the pressure vote on an inactive D2. I was out of pocket during that day phase with my better-half "surprising" me with Spring Fair tickets. Was there all day with the family, crashed when I got home and woke up after the wacky manipulation lynch went through. I will say I was not high on The Archer's proclivity to respond in not so kind fashion and may well have dropped a vote on him. It's a shame he came up town but he really did himself no favors.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That makes sense, I figured that was what happened. Well, the pressure vote part. Not the Spring Fair, it'd be weird to guess that. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Thanks for the response. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As of now Lukess, EP, Mich, and you are the top of my list. If I had to list the entire squad <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> My list had some similar names to that last phase and reading it over again, I think mine was very off. I'd suggest there are some aspects of yours that should be reconsidered as well.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="michgcs" data-cite="michgcs" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>My initial thought was hider and I didn't want to out the person, and it'll make me look bad due to the timing but it happened on N2.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That was what I would think as well. I like DJ's point about potentially saying the night it happened but not who you went after. </p><p> </p><p> Moving on:</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'd agree that if we have a non-town result on IER and there's nothing to suggest the result is faulty that this is the way to go.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Going to echo this. Yeah if Mich is comfortable coming out and saying they got a non-town result on someone, I have to trust that.</p><p> </p><p> Could the results be faulty? Of course. But if he has no evidence that the results have been wrong yet (like if EP or Archer coming up scum to him), then I don't have any reason to question them. I'd rather believe that he is on the money.</p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">VOTE: I Effin Rule</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> Easy decision in my opinion. Which is lucky because I didn't have any real lean/feelings on IER before Mich brought his stuff up.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That was what I would think as well. I <strong>liked</strong> DJ's point about potentially saying the night it happened but not who you went after. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Sentences make more sense when you use the right tense. </p><p> </p><p> And Night Two is interesting. This isn't in relation to you Mich but I would think someone had to have had a meaningful interaction to have let us get away without a night kill.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Those are a lot of pretty vague and probably not so useful facts. Who would be famous on the Clarke?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You'll have to take that up with Ray.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote: I Effin Rule</span></strong><p> </p><p> If there is a non town result then this is the direction that needs to be followed.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Scum.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">vote: i effin rule</span></strong><p> </p><p> I'm following the lead as well....</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Scummier.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'd agree that if we have a non-town result on IER and there's nothing to suggest the result is faulty that this is the way to go.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yet you don't lay down a vote. Hate to have three straight by your team?</p><p> </p><p> I don't argue the result but I do argue the implication. I do have a different alignment, but it is still pro town. The only difference in win condition is that for me to win the Captain has to die (no I didn't kill him). I assume there are more with the same alignment, but I don't know. I can't talk to anyone and am legit a pc geek.</p><p> </p><p> If I was acum why on earth would I be told how many non crew there are? I'm sure some of you will doubt that information is real, but please remember that I had given that info in thread voluntarily.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You'll have to take that up with Ray.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Scum.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Scummier.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Yet you don't lay down a vote. Hate to have three straight by your team?</p><p> </p><p> I don't argue the result but I do argue the implication. I do have a different alignment, but it is still pro town. The only difference in win condition is that for me to win the Captain has to die (no I didn't kill him). I assume there are more with the same alignment, but I don't know. I can't talk to anyone and am legit a pc geek.</p><p> </p><p> If I was acum why on earth would I be told how many non crew there are? I'm sure some of you will doubt that information is real, but please remember that I had given that info in thread voluntarily.</p></div></blockquote><p> Forgive me but you said 4-8 non town?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rayelek" data-cite="Rayelek" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>It is now Day Phase Four. With 17 people remaining, its 9 to lynch. You have until 7:30 GMT (2:30 EST) Tuesday April 16, to reach a majority decision. If no majority is reached the day will end in a no lynch.</strong></div></blockquote><p> Thanks Ray, for having the first page current.</p><p> </p><p> We have some time.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't argue the result but I do argue the implication. I do have a different alignment, but it is still pro town. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> What's your alignment? </p><p> </p><p> And do you consider yourself non-crew, in relation to your night 2 pm?</p>
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<p><strong>It is now Day Phase Four. With 17 people remaining, its 9 to lynch. You have until 7:30 GMT (2:30 EST) Tuesday April 16, to reach a majority decision. If no majority is reached the day will end in a no lynch.</strong></p><p> </p><p>

<strong>moon_lit_tears - 1</strong> (I effin rule)</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>I effin rule - 4</strong> (michgcs, Eliphas, Bluestar, Too Sweet Spartan)</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>No Vote - 12</strong> ( bak42, Destiny, djthefunkchris, Emark, Imarevenant, Leion, lukess11, moon_lit_tears, Opulent, Teh_Showtime, The Two, Zergon, )</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Forgive me but you said 4-8 non town?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That is what I was told.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What's your alignment? <p> </p><p> And do you consider yourself non-crew, in relation to your night 2 pm?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Mutineer and I don't consider myself non crew, but I have no idea if that number includes me or not.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Mutineer and I don't consider myself non crew, but I have no idea if that number includes me or not.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Could you PM Ray and check? If you're telling the truth it'd be helpful to have an exact number of non-crew left if we're in a dangerous late-game spot. Like what happened in Sunset.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Could you PM Ray and check? If you're telling the truth it'd be helpful to have an exact number of non-crew left if we're in a dangerous late-game spot. Like what happened in Sunset.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I can, but I imagine he gave me all the information he wanted to give me. If I were the mof and asked I'd just reply with <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This one.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I answered that when I mentioned Opulent and how I’d like to hear from him before I said more.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I can, but I imagine he gave me all the information he wanted to give me. If I were the mof and asked I'd just reply with <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I mean, might as well try. Worst case, we're exactly where we are now. Best case, we get some helpful info.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moon_lit_tears" data-cite="moon_lit_tears" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I answered that when I mentioned Opulent and how I’d like to hear from him before I said more.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You mentioned Opulent. That is a desire to want information. That is not 'reads.'</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why would a PC-geek want the captain of the ship to be dead?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Good question.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why would a PC-geek want the captain of the ship to be dead?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Good question.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Because I didn't think he was doing a good job. My title isn't pc geek, it is the type of role I have.</p><p> </p><p> Totes scum, btw.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Because I didn't think he was doing a good job. My title isn't pc geek, it is the type of role I have.<p> </p><p> Totes scum, btw.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is a tough spot to be in, so if you are telling the truth, I feel for you. </p><p> </p><p> If an investigator is going to out themselves I feel inclined to lynch the person they found to honor the risk they just took exposing themselves. At the very least it allows the investigator to know if they're finding valid results or if there is more to their role than it seems. Although, given your claim, it does seem to validate that the results Mich finds are accurate/valid.</p><p> </p><p> But the more I'm seeing you post, the harder this vote is becoming for me. </p><p> Because the Mutineer claim feels genuine and I do want to believe this could be a pro-town alignment even if you aren't exactly crew-aligned and would come up as scum in an investigation. You're saying the right things and defending yourself well in my opinion.</p><p> </p><p> Truthfully, I can't go with your word that you're still pro-town especially with the different alignment. I just can't go against an official result from someone claiming an investigative ability that's checked out for them so far. Still, this isn't a fun vote for me. And I felt like I owed you an explanation.</p><p> </p><p> Couple of questions:</p><p> </p><p> 1. If it isn't PC Geek/Oracle, what is the official title of this role? And what color is your alignment?</p><p> 2. What are your reads? Who do you think are scum? I've seen you bringing up Bluestar and Eliphas a few times. Is it because of the votes against you today? Or was this a read before then (and if so, why?)?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You mentioned Opulent. That is a desire to want information. That is not 'reads.'</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> I have reason to believe he may have some info. </p><p> </p><p> The more you push the better I feel about you BTW.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moon_lit_tears" data-cite="moon_lit_tears" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I have reason to believe he may have some info. <p> </p><p> The more you push the better I feel about you BTW.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I am pushing because earlier you seemed to be asking questions and I want to sort your slot. The more interaction I have with you the better I can ascertain your alignment. </p><p> </p><p> Is there anyone else that sticks out to you? Has your views of certain players changed after The Archer flip, or not?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This is a tough spot to be in, so if you are telling the truth, I feel for you. <p> </p><p> If an investigator is going to out themselves I feel inclined to lynch the person they found to honor the risk they just took exposing themselves. At the very least it allows the investigator to know if they're finding valid results or if there is more to their role than it seems. Although, given your claim, it does seem to validate that the results Mich finds are accurate/valid.</p><p> </p><p> But the more I'm seeing you post, the harder this vote is becoming for me. </p><p> Because the Mutineer claim feels genuine and I do want to believe this could be a pro-town alignment even if you aren't exactly crew-aligned and would come up as scum in an investigation. You're saying the right things and defending yourself well in my opinion.</p><p> </p><p> Truthfully, I can't go with your word that you're still pro-town especially with the different alignment. I just can't go against an official result from someone claiming an investigative ability that's checked out for them so far. Still, this isn't a fun vote for me. And I felt like I owed you an explanation.</p><p> </p><p> Couple of questions:</p><p> </p><p> 1. If it isn't PC Geek/Oracle, what is the official title of this role? And what color is your alignment?</p><p> 2. What are your reads? Who do you think are scum? I've seen you bringing up Bluestar and Eliphas a few times. Is it because of the votes against you today? Or was this a read before then (and if so, why?)?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Disgruntled crewman, orange.</p><p> </p><p> I still stand by MLT, lukess, and Leion. At least one is scum.</p><p> </p><p> Eli was giving me scum vibes with Archer. I know Archer flipped town, but the way Eli was defending him just came off scummy. Bluestar finally pops back up when there is an open opportunity to lynch someone he knows is not scum and have a viable excuse.</p>
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