Effingham Heights: A Game of Homes Mafia Game Thread

[Too Sweet Spartan]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="FellaLibby" data-cite="FellaLibby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I believed Eayragt was a SK, wanting to find and kill scum. With the amount of bodies there were on N1, I believed he was speaking the truth that he wasn't trying to be against. Was I wrong to believe? Yes. Do I regret doing what I did? No.<p> </p><p> I hold no regrets. The scum is dead and now I'm targetted because I believed in the scum. If you want me dead, then go. Lynch me. But I promise it will show it was a waste of time and you'll wish you target someone else. I have no fear of what'll come.</p><p> </p><p> And due to this, I will not vote next day at all. Not to show innocence, or anything. Your judgement is your own. I'm not talking directly to anyone with this post, I'm talking to everyone.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm not sure if you misread what I wrote but I said I <span style="text-decoration:underline;">don't</span> think you are scum.</p>

[Too Sweet Spartan]

<p>For real Fella Libby, this ain't your hill to die on. We got a decent bit of people saying that they aren't holding the unvote and revote against you. </p><p> </p><p>

If you're town, which I'm leaning towards, we really do need you after that awful night one. Don't go self-sacrificing, go scum hunting.</p>

[Derek B]

<p>My thoughts on the council vote... they should take option 1. I would rather we have a longer phase to work with, and we can all make our opinions known on the matter before any official votes are placed. Any HA member who doesn't follow along to that would be immediately on the top of the pile for anyone so we can still have maximum accontability. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

As for the second presumably grouped scum alignment... I don't like it. It makes me sad. i thought we had got rid of a night kill and now I don't think we have. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

I'm also not sold on DJ's theory about BlueStar being a bomb, purely because I don't know what Paws would be doing there as the presumed killer when her role is described as female and the killer was male. Would have to mean one of the other townie deaths was also a vigilante.... but there would also be one of the groups not having a kill?</p><p> </p><p>

Something to think about.</p>

[FellaLibby]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For real Fella Libby, this ain't your hill to die on. We got a decent bit of people saying that they aren't holding the unvote and revote against you. <p> </p><p> If you're town, which I'm leaning towards, we really do need you after that awful night one. Don't go self-sacrificing, go scum hunting.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'll do what I can this night phase.</p>

[Derek B]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="FellaLibby" data-cite="FellaLibby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'll do what I can this night phase.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> As long as it's not killing that's fine. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Though if it is killing, get someone on the other scum team. Or your own I guess... either is good. <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[FellaLibby]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As long as it's not killing that's fine. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Though if it is killing, get someone on the other scum team. Or your own I guess... either is good. <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You have nothing to fear of me killing. I promise.</p>

[Derek B]

Awesome. Can we get everyone else in the game to do the same now? We're sorted! <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

[Tha Black Phenom]

<p>I personally don't know about a 24 hour day phase. That would work better if we had someone dead to rights. Or if we fall onto another night result, which is never guaranteed. I figure with the amount of people that are left, there may be several timezones between us.</p><p> </p><p>

I figure if we trusted enough to vote in our council members, we could trust them enough to lynch our next player. Of course, later in game those same options may get tricky <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Derek B]

<p><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:#FF00FF;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">It would be the current council who would do the voting during the next day phase. They are still on the council until the next lot are voted in.</span></strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p>

Just thought I'd better make that clear, since people seem to have not clicked to that yet and it may influence things.</p>

[Derek B]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Game Specific Rules</span></strong><p><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;"> </span></strong></p><p> -Each day phase the players will elect up to three representatives for the Homeowners Association Council. To be elected a player must first be nominated by another player (you can nominate yourself). They then have to be seconded and thirded by other players. <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Once you have Nominated, Seconded, or Thirded, you CANNOT change your vote</span></strong>. The first three to be thirded will be the council members beginning the next night cycle and concluding at the end of the following day cycle. New nominations will be held each day phase. The formatting for the nominations should be in the following format.</p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#008000;">Nominate: Player X</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color:#008000;"> Second: Player X</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color:#008000;"> Third: Player X</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> Council members are given two proposals each night to vote on. Each proposal is different and can cause many different changes to the game. All players are notified of the change in thread. <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">The Council members cannot speak outside of the thread.</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> Lynches are determined by the most votes at the end of the phase. You may <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote: No Lynch</span></strong> as opposed to voting for a player. If No Lynch has the most votes, then no one will be lynched.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Just a reminder on how our Homeowner's Association works since it's, y'know, pretty critical to how this game works. It's also super important for later in the game... if we get down to less than 9 players, there will never be a full council so we need to have people we trust in charge in case this type of scenario comes up again.</p>

[Guest Memory of Talon]

<p>Yes, I have double checked with the mod and Derek is correct. I did not understand that the same council would be able to make the lynch that voted it in. </p><p> </p><p>

With that in mind I am more open to the idea of voting for proposal 1.</p>

[Derek B]

<p>Even with that in mind, I still prefer the option of giving the council the votes. We have enough players that the council shouldn't vote until we have a general consensus among the town of what we want to do.</p><p> </p><p>

The downside is that we remove the ability to look at voting patterns for the day phase, which does suck as its a helpful tool in finding things later on in the game. But at least we still get the full day phase to do things, which is our other major weapon.</p><p> </p><p>

Later on in the game though... the option of giving the council the control of the lynch would be super dangerous. But that's why it's important to be careful with our nominations too. Keep it to people we trust and for good reasons, not just gut instincts.</p>

[Derek B]

<p>Another quick thought... it also gives the council the chance to leverage players for a lot of information too. It will be 2 votes to lynch, but from specific players. Interesting from a player perspective but once again, super dangerous.</p><p> </p><p>

Please don't throw votes about too easily. And I also recommend holding back on the nominations until we've heard from most of the players in the next phase. No point in rushing into anything that can't be changed, when potentially there is so much on the line that could be reliant on the timing of specific players being around.</p><p> </p><p>

So yeah.... lots of caution to go around. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Crychon]

<p>Good points all around everyone. On a quick glance at work I was a bit wary of giving just 3 people the power to choose, effectively not giving other people a vote. </p><p> </p><p>

After seeing the argument it probably makes more sense to go with option 1. My original thoughts were that the shorter phase might give more of a sense of urgency, which could be could, but we could also urgently make a mistake, and more time to discuss is also good.</p>

[Destiny]

So I assume the council members will be voting to lynch in public in thread as opposed to behind the scenes? It looks like we're heading towards that scenario being picked despite my earlier reservations.

[lukess11]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So I assume the council members will be voting to lynch in public in thread as opposed to behind the scenes? It looks like we're heading towards that scenario being picked despite my earlier reservations.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I have already placed my vote for it. With plurality and only 24 hours, scum can manipulate the vote easily and play it off as a mistake.</p>

[Destiny]

Alrighty then. Let's hope that we've put our faith in the right trio. We'll see what the night phase brings.

[djthefunkchris]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I know you said you go to work now so this likely has to wait on next day phase but I would like you to clarify something when you have time.<p> </p><p> On the bolded part, do you think EP was the one killing Bluestar or do I understand you wrong? I doubt EP would be the killer if eayragt is indeed SK like he claims (we find that out soon I guess) then that would mean that mafia didn´t kill night 1 and I´m quite doubful that would be the case.</p><p> </p><p> What I´m saying here is that I don´t see EP being connected to Bluestar via night write-up. Now, he still could be and it just wasn´t showed on write-up (or I´m missing something).</p></div></blockquote>There were two deaths by people... Scum and Vig is what I was thinking. Scum/SK, whatever, It's my theory at that point I was thinking Scum and Vig, and EA is just saying anything to not get lynched. <p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Tha Black Phenom" data-cite="Tha Black Phenom" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> This is actually dj typing, as I tried to cut out everything but the relevant one for me, and messed it up. So you said stuff here... leaving the link </div></blockquote>You outed someone, I think maybe unintentionally, but you're good enough to do exactly what I was accusing Destiny of doing. IF you don't know what I'm talking about, which by asking me about it could be, never mind.... It just means you missed it I guess, or your playing dumb like Destiny did to me in barebones.<p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Alrighty then. Let's hope that we've put our faith in the right trio. We'll see what the night phase brings.</div></blockquote><p> I have faith in them if that is how they want to go. Honestly, would be hard for me to think of better candidates in that roll, with what I think I know, and who I feel I trust.</p><p> </p><p> Unlike if you were on the council Destiny.<img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Zergon]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There were two deaths by people... Scum and Vig is what I was thinking. Scum/SK, whatever, It's my theory at that point I was thinking Scum and Vig, and EA is just saying anything to not get lynched. <p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Alright, thanks for the answer.</p>

[Destiny]

DJ I'm not going to hide my wishes of being on the council. I explained my reasoning earlier in the game. I also trust myself, obviously. Would you not want the responsibility or the eyes on you?

[djthefunkchris]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>DJ I'm not going to hide my wishes of being on the council. I explained my reasoning earlier in the game. I also trust myself, obviously. Would you not want the responsibility or the eyes on you?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Doesn't matter to me. I will just do what the majority views is the right thing to do, as should anyone. So far, it's not like being on the council gives you protection or anything else worth being on it for. </p><p> </p><p> So the plus is... Hopefully townies will protect/watch etc. the council members if they think they are town.</p><p> </p><p> That's it. So it doesn't make me want to be on it, nor do I care if I am nominated for it. I don't see it mattering in the slightest to be honest, who is on the council. We get to re-vote every day so it's not like Scum can take it over, or would even think about being scummy while seated there.</p>

[Destiny]

If we ever get to the unfortunate position of all three council members being scum then they can choose what they like and lie about the options though.

[djthefunkchris]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If we ever get to the unfortunate position of all three council members being scum then they can choose what they like and lie about the options though.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> True, but I think the chances are pretty bad that all three would be scum.</p>

[i effin rule]

<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:#FF0000;">About 2.5 hours remaining to get your stuff in!</span></span></span></strong>

[Destiny]

I really wish that everybody would "get their stuff in" during the next hour or so because I'll be sleeping soon. Show some consideration for the D-Man.