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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Crychon" data-cite="Crychon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Sorry for not posting for a bit. I was hoping some clues were going to shake out, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen at this point.<p> </p><p> I will say I was pretty perplexed by MoT's initial vote for TSS and saying he wasn't going to move it, because TSS was one of the few people I've gotten kind of a town read from so far.</p><p> </p><p> The lists that people are throwing around have some common names, but nobody has really jumped out at me at this point as an obvious lynch candidate yet.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well, you have to first understand that I had TSS on my suspicions list for the reasons I gave earlier in the phase. </p><p> </p><p> Then you also have to understand that I thought I saw a certain someone say that "their resources" on TSS said that TSS was scum. </p><p> </p><p> I mistook what was said to be a subtle hint of power that could be trusted. </p><p> </p><p> This is why I apologized for the miscommunication yesterday as I was looking at things wrong.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Crychon" data-cite="Crychon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Sorry for not posting for a bit. I was hoping some clues were going to shake out, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen at this point.<p> </p><p> I will say I was pretty perplexed by MoT's initial vote for TSS and saying he wasn't going to move it, because TSS was one of the few people I've gotten kind of a town read from so far.</p><p> </p><p> The lists that people are throwing around have some common names, but nobody has really jumped out at me at this point as an obvious lynch candidate yet.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> /nod. I am wondering what lukes take on everything is as well. </p><p> </p><p> Honestly, would like to hear from all the council members, where their mindsets are, etc. It's kind of weird that you guys aren't doing more legwork. Talon said he's sick, but I was really hoping to kind of team with him this game (if he's town), lukes is normally more active, I don't remember him saying he wouldn't be around, but I might have overlooked it if he did. </p><p> </p><p> You saying you don't have any really good leads is actually better than throwing a random vote around, as the power is much stronger with only three votes counting.</p><p> </p><p> That's why I say we hold you guys accountable. I'm personally going to either way. Like I said, if you lynch someone I can understand, and they flip town that is one thing. You lynch someone that seems a bit obvious they are town, that is another thing all together.</p><p> </p><p> You are the one I trust the most on the council. Might surprise others, but you understand why, don't you?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don’t feel strongly enough about 3 at the moment but was honestly coming into the phase thinking I’d nom Destiny. Even the questions to me don’t make me feel otherwise I chalk it up to due diligence.<p> </p><p> I feel a bit safer about Derek but then again...it’s Derek. But I have reason to believe he’d be a good option (again)</p><p> </p><p> Third maybe Emark. I know there were questions about how fast he hopped on the eay lynch but in my experience he’s always been one to hold his vote so that one was actually a positive to me when he flipped red.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> How do you feel about Zergon?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Memory of Talon" data-cite="Memory of Talon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well, you have to first understand that I had TSS on my suspicions list for the reasons I gave earlier in the phase. <p> </p><p> Then you also have to understand that I thought I saw a certain someone say that "their resources" on TSS said that TSS was scum. </p><p> </p><p> I mistook what was said to be a subtle hint of power that could be trusted. </p><p> </p><p> This is why I apologized for the miscommunication yesterday as I was looking at things wrong.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Gotcha, ok. That makes more sense now.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>/nod. I am wondering what lukes take on everything is as well. <p> </p><p> Honestly, would like to hear from all the council members, where their mindsets are, etc. It's kind of weird that you guys aren't doing more legwork. Talon said he's sick, but I was really hoping to kind of team with him this game (if he's town), lukes is normally more active, I don't remember him saying he wouldn't be around, but I might have overlooked it if he did. </p><p> </p><p> You saying you don't have any really good leads is actually better than throwing a random vote around, as the power is much stronger with only three votes counting.</p><p> </p><p> That's why I say we hold you guys accountable. I'm personally going to either way. Like I said, if you lynch someone I can understand, and they flip town that is one thing. You lynch someone that seems a bit obvious they are town, that is another thing all together.</p><p> </p><p> You are the one I trust the most on the council. Might surprise others, but you understand why, don't you?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> /nod</p>
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<p>Something has been bothering me since last night DJ. This is one of my biggest conundrums right now. </p><p> </p><p>

You say you trust Derek for reasons, but he sure fire wants to kill Destiny for what look like reasons.</p><p> </p><p>

I have it in my head that Destiny is town, and you seem to believe the same. What do you make of that? Are we wrong or is Derek wrong?</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Memory of Talon" data-cite="Memory of Talon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well, you have to first understand that I had TSS on my suspicions list for the reasons I gave earlier in the phase. <p> </p><p> Then you also have to understand that I thought I saw a certain someone say that "their resources" on TSS said that TSS was scum. </p><p> </p><p> I mistook what was said to be a subtle hint of power that could be trusted. </p><p> </p><p> This is why I apologized for the miscommunication yesterday as I was looking at things wrong.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> /nod. You're good, no apology needed. I was also overly defensive which isn't helpful with reads.</p><p> </p><p> Being that you are one of the only voters today: what are your thoughts at the moment?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Same question to you Spartan, who would you put into council right now?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Still waiting on an answer to this, Destiny.<p> </p><p> And Showtime, same question.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I´m waiting answers too. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>How do you feel about Zergon?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Speaking in DJ terms, s</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Memory of Talon" data-cite="Memory of Talon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Something has been bothering me since last night DJ. This is one of my biggest conundrums right now. <p> </p><p> You say you trust Derek for reasons, but he sure fire wants to kill Destiny for what look like reasons.</p><p> </p><p> I have it in my head that Destiny is town, and you seem to believe the same. What do you make of that? Are we wrong or is Derek wrong?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> And I can't really help you with that, because it's something that people just agree or not on. You tend to think like me, Derek thinks differently than me.</p><p> </p><p> This game, Destiny started out asking questions to people that are normally scum targets, right off the bat. It's why I got a really strong scum vibe from him in the first place. However, I know Destiny does this thing, where he is in the wrong spot asking the wrong person and not thinking of the overall game consequences that might happen. I believe you know that's his play as well. </p><p> </p><p> Derek seems to believe Destiny is intentionally trying to figure out who is a safe kill, and who he might not want to leave alone "Do you go out at night?" type questions or... "Was your target someone who died?" as a sneaky way to see if you target people or stay inside (have a passive/bp/PGO type ability). </p><p> </p><p> So either of us could be right or wrong. I haven't got anything concrete on Destiny one way or the other.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Speaking in DJ terms, s</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> What does that mean? You don't understand my question?</p><p> </p><p> In case it's the latter, I mean... you getting a strong read from him, town or scum? Is he someone you would put on the council?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>/nod. You're good, no apology needed. I was also overly defensive which isn't helpful with reads.<p> </p><p> Being that you are one of the only voters today: what are your thoughts at the moment?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> First I'd like to say that this turns out to be one of the more stressful mafia situations I've been in lmao.</p><p> </p><p> I can't get a good read on rabbitman even after his posts this phase. I'm not really satisfied with what he's posted so far but I can gleem some small things from it. He seems to be making a subtle push on Emark, but the problem with me for that is that I think I know what emark is and therefor think he's town. </p><p> </p><p> In regards to othe scum, my entire POE has to change with the revelations that my previous top 3 scum reads are flipped. </p><p> </p><p> I now somewhat pair Eliphas together with Rabbitman for scum team 1. </p><p> </p><p> I also am a bit more suspicious of Leion. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I still think showtime is playing differently enough from the last game that I have him as town for the moment, but that can change depending on how things go.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Still waiting on an answer to this, Destiny.<p> </p><p> And Showtime, same question.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Sorry for the late reply. If I couldn't choose myself then at this stage I would choose MoT for reasons, Emark because he voluntarily said that he appears in both write-ups and that isn't an easy thing to lie about and the last one is hard, I want to say you but it seems like you haven't been around much since this phase. I'm still trying to get a feel for you in this game. Can't think of any other solids for me right now. Would you nominate me?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And I can't really help you with that, because it's something that people just agree or not on. You tend to think like me, Derek thinks differently than me.<p> </p><p> This game, Destiny started out asking questions to people that are normally scum targets, right off the bat. It's why I got a really strong scum vibe from him in the first place. However, I know Destiny does this thing, where he is in the wrong spot asking the wrong person and not thinking of the overall game consequences that might happen. I believe you know that's his play as well. </p><p> </p><p> Derek seems to believe Destiny is intentionally trying to figure out who is a safe kill, and who he might not want to leave alone "Do you go out at night?" type questions or... "Was your target someone who died?" as a sneaky way to see if you target people or stay inside (have a passive/bp/PGO type ability). </p><p> </p><p> So either of us could be right or wrong. I haven't got anything concrete on Destiny one way or the other.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> With regards to this, whether you're town or scum I think things will become clearer for you at end game or when we both reach the graveyard, whatever happens first.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>With regards to this, whether you're town or scum I think things will become clearer for you at end game or when we both reach the graveyard, whatever happens first.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I do know there is a possibility I'm wrong about you. I'm leaning one way, but I could flip because it's not a strong lean. It's you, so it's like a benefit of the doubt lean. Make sense?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It's just gone past midnight here and although I'll try to stay up a bit longer, if anybody has any questions specifically for me I'd rather they asked how.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> How as in, How can you answer if you're asleep?</p><p> </p><p> Just kidding. I figure that meant Now, and your genuinely sleepy.</p><p> </p><p> I'm actually good with you for now. I'm waiting for other people to get home from work/wake up, etc. It should be getting good in about four hours I think.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I do know there is a possibility I'm wrong about you. I'm leaning one way, but I could flip because it's not a strong lean. It's you, so it's like a benefit of the doubt lean. Make sense?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It depends on the way you're leaning. Based on your post and the benefit of the doubt I guess it's a town lean. Don't worry, I'm not sold on you either. I just don't want us to get in each other's way like we did on that damn ship.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I´m waiting answers too. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> And apparently, I'm blind.</p><p> </p><p> If I got my choice of the council with myself not getting to be a part of it:</p><p> </p><p> At this moment I'd go with DJ, MoT, and Fella Libby.</p><p> </p><p> I like DJ's mind for the game and feel like he's pushing paths and trying to scum hunt. And of course, the bromance doesn't hurt.</p><p> I like MoT's consistent sound logic. And I still have to give them major points for being the first to bring up the council vote options and discussing the options with us all at night and taking in people's opinions.</p><p> I like Fella Libby's transparency and feel like they genuinely are town. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Sorry for the late reply. If I couldn't choose myself then at this stage I would choose MoT for reasons, Emark because he voluntarily said that he appears in both write-ups and that isn't an easy thing to lie about and the last one is hard, I want to say you but it seems like you haven't been around much since this phase. I'm still trying to get a feel for you in this game. Can't think of any other solids for me right now. Would you nominate me?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I wouldn't feel comfortable nominating you. Part of that is respect for your ability to deceive me, part of that is that I'm really struggling to give you a town lean at the moment. </p><p> </p><p> I lean towards the DJ/MoT side of things, where I see some of your questions as role hunting and I have trouble fully trusting you. I don't think I'm at the level of "we have to lynch Destiny" but I wouldn't want you in a spot where you could be making some crucial decisions for us.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Memory of Talon" data-cite="Memory of Talon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>First I'd like to say that this turns out to be one of the more stressful mafia situations I've been in lmao.</strong><p> </p><p> I can't get a good read on rabbitman even after his posts this phase. I'm not really satisfied with what he's posted so far but I can gleem some small things from it. He seems to be making a subtle push on Emark, but the problem with me for that is that I think I know what emark is and therefor think he's town. </p><p> </p><p> In regards to othe scum, my entire POE has to change with the revelations that my previous top 3 scum reads are flipped. </p><p> </p><p> I now somewhat pair Eliphas together with Rabbitman for scum team 1. </p><p> </p><p> I also am a bit more suspicious of Leion. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I still think showtime is playing differently enough from the last game that I have him as town for the moment, but that can change depending on how things go.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I definitely agree with this. I had a feeling it might be, when the two choices were presented, but it definitely has been!</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>How as in, How can you answer if you're asleep?<p> </p><p> Just kidding. I figure that meant Now, and your genuinely sleepy.</p><p> </p><p> I'm actually good with you for now. I'm waiting for other people to get home from work/wake up, etc. It should be getting good in about four hours I think.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You figure correctly and I'm genuinely a bit sleepy. It's a shame I'll be in the land of non-Mafia related /nod by the time it gets busy in here though. I'm glad you trust me enough for now. How about a nomination? <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Memory of Talon" data-cite="Memory of Talon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>First I'd like to say that this turns out to be one of the more stressful mafia situations I've been in lmao.<p> </p><p> I can't get a good read on rabbitman even after his posts this phase. I'm not really satisfied with what he's posted so far but I can gleem some small things from it. He seems to be making a subtle push on Emark, but the problem with me for that is that I think I know what emark is and therefor think he's town. </p><p> </p><p> In regards to othe scum, my entire POE has to change with the revelations that my previous top 3 scum reads are flipped. </p><p> </p><p> I now somewhat pair Eliphas together with Rabbitman for scum team 1. </p><p> </p><p> I also am a bit more suspicious of Leion. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I still think showtime is playing differently enough from the last game that I have him as town for the moment, but that can change depending on how things go.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Missed this. Thanks for your insight. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And apparently, I'm blind.<p> </p><p> If I got my choice of the council with myself not getting to be a part of it:</p><p> </p><p> At this moment I'd go with DJ, MoT, and Fella Libby.</p><p> </p><p> I like DJ's mind for the game and feel like he's pushing paths and trying to scum hunt. And of course, the bromance doesn't hurt.</p><p> I like MoT's consistent sound logic. And I still have to give them major points for being the first to bring up the council vote options and discussing the options with us all at night and taking in people's opinions.</p><p> I like Fella Libby's transparency and feel like they genuinely are town. </p><p> </p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks for the answer.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And apparently, I'm blind.<p> </p><p> If I got my choice of the council with myself not getting to be a part of it:</p><p> </p><p> At this moment I'd go with DJ, MoT, and Fella Libby.</p><p> </p><p> I like DJ's mind for the game and feel like he's pushing paths and trying to scum hunt. And of course, the bromance doesn't hurt.</p><p> I like MoT's consistent sound logic. And I still have to give them major points for being the first to bring up the council vote options and discussing the options with us all at night and taking in people's opinions.</p><p> I like Fella Libby's transparency and feel like they genuinely are town. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I wouldn't feel comfortable nominating you. Part of that is respect for your ability to deceive me, part of that is that I'm really struggling to give you a town lean at the moment. </p><p> </p><p> I lean towards the DJ/MoT side of things, where I see some of your questions as role hunting and I have trouble fully trusting you. I don't think I'm at the level of "we have to lynch Destiny" but I wouldn't want you in a spot where you could be making some crucial decisions for us.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't think he's role hunting btw. I think he's hunting for something, but only a few good men would.</p>
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<p><strong><span style="color:#008000;">Second: djthefunkchris</span></strong></p><p> </p><p>

We really need to get the nominations on the way.</p>

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