Eternal Phoenix Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 It doesn't even matter too much at this point how accurate your reads are, but it's important to put them out there. I'm curious as to why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eliphas Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I'm curious as to why? It allows everyone to read your progressions as the game proceeds. That said I am going to reread this phase and I will offer a complete reads list at the conclusion of the reread. Work will determine the time I am able to complete. Who schedules meetings after lunch on Fridays? I will say this, I don't think there is alot of question to whether or not Leion is aligned with the Cult of Ralkdos. Just based off of perceived mechanics and the fact that he hasn't offered a response to the votes(unless I have missed it.) I intend to place my vote on him but I will give him the opportunity to respond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal Phoenix Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 It allows everyone to read your progressions as the game proceeds. That said I am going to reread this phase and I will offer a complete reads list at the conclusion of the reread. Work will determine the time I am able to complete. Who schedules meetings after lunch on Fridays? I will say this, I don't think there is alot of question to whether or not Leion is aligned with the Cult of Ralkdos. Just based off of perceived mechanics and the fact that he hasn't offered a response to the votes(unless I have missed it.) I intend to place my vote on him but I will give him the opportunity to respond. Heh. Kind of paradoxical. The scum could be anyone, but sure let's tell everyone what's on our minds. Game doesn't work if we don't, though. Mafia. Hell of a thing. You haven't missed Leion, though. He hasn't been here since being resurrected yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eliphas Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Heh. Kind of paradoxical. The scum could be anyone, but sure let's tell everyone what's on our minds. Game doesn't work if we don't, though. Mafia. Hell of a thing. You haven't missed Leion, though. He hasn't been here since being resurrected yesterday. I am use to playing in an environment where there are less dependence on roles and more on interactions. Read lists are the norm. At lunch, meeting afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayelek Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 <p><strong>It is now Day Phase 3. With 13 living players, 7 votes are required for a lynch. This day will end on Saturday June 29 at 10am EST (3PM GMT).</strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong>Leion - 5</strong> (Destiny, Too Sweet Spartan, Tha Black Phenom, bak42, Emark)</p><p> </p><p> Just as a side note, tomorrow I am moving so while I'll be available-ish, I'll get dirty looks from my wife if I'm checking my phone constantly. Depending on when phase ends, there may be a wait on a write up as well.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eliphas Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="hellshock70" data-cite="hellshock70" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46764" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I have to take a moment and give props right here.<p> </p><p> </p><p> DJ fake claiming paladin and possibly wasting a resurrection just to pull the wool over our eyes.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> While DeadCeleb the real paladin knowing he fake claimed goes to take him out. And he would've stayed undercover afterwards if not for DJ blowing up.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Now for my usual game joke when I last this long:</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Crazy part is it literally blew up in both their faces. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> When I first read it I read it as dj being the attacker. But I can see it being flavor. Looks like both had the ability to protect themselves?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon_lit_tears Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 <p>This is the right move, however I am loving the talk. It helps so much. </p><p> </p><p> I will put my vote later. With all the conversation I think it wise to use the time as much as we can.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eliphas Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moon_lit_tears" data-cite="moon_lit_tears" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46764" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There is not much to tell right now honestly. <p> </p><p> Having a cult worries me. How many people are in it? </p><p> </p><p> Can they recruit regular people, or do they have to be brought back to life. </p><p> </p><p> How many resurrections do they have?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If they had to resurrect to to recruit, wouldn't be a give away and make it easier to pick them off?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zergon Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eternal Phoenix" data-cite="Eternal Phoenix" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46764" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Heh. Kind of paradoxical. The scum could be anyone, but sure let's tell everyone what's on our minds. Game doesn't work if we don't, though. Mafia. Hell of a thing. <p> </p><p> You haven't missed Leion, though. He hasn't been here since being resurrected yesterday.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> To me there two main reasons why I like lists and make them myself.</p><p> </p><p> First, it gives me idea of were other people are looking at and how close/far they are on what I´m thinking and potentially help me see something I missed myself. Sure, the person who´s list I´m looking might be scum but even then there´s likely some info to be gained.</p><p> </p><p> And second, if someone with the list ends up dying and flipping town (or scum), I can go back and look who he/she suspected now that I know those notes come from someone who was town/scum.</p><p> </p><p> Overall, I think it´s easier to make this kind of lists when you are town (or third party with no allies) as if you are scum you always have a problem of how will you present your team mates and that´s why I generally see giving up list as town thing (also explains why people like DJ and TSS can so easily trick me since they give these lists all the time despite their aligment).</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eliphas Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46764" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Ok, so Dragon took BHK out, which makes sense with him being aligment detector. Too bad protection didn´t work (if any) but I´d assume dragon would be the one bypasses protection so not too surprised.<p> </p><p> Scum team took Rev out, that´s bit more surprising consider Rev had only two posts and could ahve been potential lynch bait (I was going to look his way this day phase so need new ideas... again),</p><p> </p><p> DeadCeleb took DJ out but DJ was bomb so Celeb died as well, too bad to lose teh town vig but atleast that puts DJ´s case to rest and gives us some information. I assume DJ was the "wandering mind" on day 0. Leion is likely cult as I don´t see what use resurrection ability would be to cult if it doesn´t change the aligment as well so Leion could be the way to go this phase to eliminate one thread although <strong>I would rather take the dragon or one of the scum out </strong>(assuming cult can´t recruit now but might still be good idea to make sure and kill Leion as well)</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Yes, I am interested on that, I´d assume you been on previous write-up as well then but this is likely something I shouldn´t question further.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Just for clarification, you don't feel the cult can recruit with dj's death? You would rather pursue the other threats than remove the potential cult recruit?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 It's only a giveaway because we know it was DJ who did it due to the situation he was in last phase and him coming up as scum during the night. Otherwise we'd be none the wiser. Sleep time for me. Night all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zergon Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46764" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If they had to resurrect to to recruit, wouldn't be a give away and make it easier to pick them off?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Kind of, but there was second resurrect ability as well (used on Lukess) that was likely town so that likely would have lead to some confusion or doubt. </p><p> </p><p> After all, the only reason we know to go towards Leion is because DJ specifically said he would raise Leion back to life and because DJ was killed and flipped scum after that. Otherwise we would be on the situation were two previous townies were resurrected and we wouldn´t know if one or both would still be town or not.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon_lit_tears Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46764" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If they had to resurrect to to recruit, wouldn't be a give away and make it easier to pick them off?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If DJ had not been caught would we question resurections?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zergon Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46764" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just for clarification, you don't feel the cult can recruit with dj's death? You would rather pursue the other threats than remove the potential cult recruit?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That was when I thought DJ was the wandering mind on mountain cave (so third party with no other allies tha Leion), which I don´t think is the case anymore. I now think that the cult actually is the main scum group and DJ was the killer on night 0 and 1 and as a result would be more willing to go towards Leion than at the time of the post you quoted. That said, killing beast would likely be the best way to stop second kill happening on night so beast would still be my first priority. However, since we don´t have clear idea who beast (or beasts if Hellshock is right with his theory) are, Leion is the way to go on my opinion.</p><p> </p><p> As for the question can they still recruit? I have no idea but if DJ was killer could he also be the one with resurrect ability? I guess it´s possible but I´d figure someone else on the group was the one who could resurrect in which case I guess they could still recruit unless it was one shot thing.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emark Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Don’t discount the possibility that some roles may have more than one ability. May not be a true JOAT but may be able to resurrect at the cost of using another ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eliphas Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46764" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Alright, so forget what I just said about DJ being the wandering mind in the cave. I re-read the write-ups to check things after arguing with Hellshock and looks like I was way too hasty to make the connection I made. Hooded man with burst of dark energy fits the killer on night 0 and night 1 so Hellshock is likely right that cult (or monsters but my money is on cult at least until someone proves me wrong again) is the main scum team and that DJ was part of the scum team and not third party. <strong>Which changes few things..</strong>.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Interested in your thoughts here. Commenting to make sure I don't forget to ask in case you don't cover this in later posts.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eliphas Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="hellshock70" data-cite="hellshock70" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46764" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Dragon<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> A second monster. </p><p> </p><p> What spits acid in DnD? </p><p> </p><p> What spits acid in Magic: The Gathering?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Sorry I have no clue to DnD. So the dragons that appear in write ups aren't the same one?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha Black Phenom Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 <p>Sorry again for the absence, busier week than usual.</p><p> </p><p> Remaining suspects, not quite too sure on that, will have to reread the bit of notes I have. At a glance, I suspect Eliphas and Emark but I always have these potential monster SKs in the back of my mind, and am keeping in mind this phase is more than likely a gimme for them.</p><p> </p><p> I can't help but feel that someone must've been behind the plan of DJ resurrecting Leion (IF he also turns up orange) so I wouldn't discount the possibility of a vocal town leader being amongst their ranks and "advising" him to resurrect Leion to prove his townieness. I think that aspect shouldn't be ignored just yet. A volatile FoS based off just that would point me to TSS, but I have been wrong before.</p><p> </p><p> If need be, I may divulge more about myself but would rather wait until it's time. I will say I haven't been out at night these past few nights.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eliphas Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="bak42" data-cite="bak42" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46764" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>No, scum no take rev out, I take rev out. Me <strong><span style="color:#0000FF;">Thog, Son of Kronk, Ellin’s Grove Aligned Adventurer’s Guild Barbarian.</span></strong>. Thog think rev be scum try lay low, so me kill. Thog glad he no go for first choice last night, dj. Thog wonder if reason no magical kill last night be because dj die.<p> </p><p> That be said, Thog not sure inn-o-cent child so inn-o-cent anymore.</p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">vote: Leion</span></strong></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Interesting revelation.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eliphas Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moon_lit_tears" data-cite="moon_lit_tears" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46764" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If DJ had not been caught would we question resurections?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I can't say that I wasn't skeptical before dj died and was revealed. Especially with his of Leion. Just something in the way he went about it. Something in it just pinged me.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eliphas Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46764" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That was when I thought DJ was the wandering mind on mountain cave (so third party with no other allies tha Leion), which I don´t think is the case anymore. I now think that the cult actually is the main scum group and DJ was the killer on night 0 and 1 and as a result would be more willing to go towards Leion than at the time of the post you quoted. That said, killing beast would likely be the best way to stop second kill happening on night so beast would still be my first priority. However, since we don´t have clear idea who beast (or beasts if Hellshock is right with his theory) are, Leion is the way to go on my opinion.<p> </p><p> As for the question can they still recruit? I have no idea but if DJ was killer could he also be the one with resurrect ability? I guess it´s possible but I´d figure someone else on the group was the one who could resurrect in which case I guess they could still recruit unless it was one shot thing.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I am mindmelding with most of this. Based on the way the writeups read and the dj flip it looks like what you say has merit. If not and dj could kill and recruit and be a bomb or whatever that was; that was one kick ass role.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eliphas Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46764" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Interested in your thoughts here. Commenting to make sure I don't forget to ask in case you don't cover this in later posts.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think this was answered.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zergon Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46764" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Interested in your thoughts here. Commenting to make sure I don't forget to ask in case you don't cover this in later posts.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The fact that DJ was part of the group instead of loner like I first thougth mainly changed my reads on certain people considering day 2, which is somewhat covered in my current reads post. </p><p> </p><p> Basically, at that time, it made me feel slighly better on Bak and MLT (for quickly voting DJ which makes them unlikely to be on the same team though didn´t exclude them being monsters etc.) and to lesser extend Phenom (for voicing his doubts even if he didn´t vote) and made me trust slighly less on people defending DJ (TSS and Rabbitman mainly but also Hellshock) as I was wondering if one of them could be fellow scum trying to save their scum mate.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon_lit_tears Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46764" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I can't say that I wasn't skeptical before dj died and was revealed. Especially with his of Leion. Just something in the way he went about it. Something in it just pinged me.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Had BHK not come forward, or chose a different target, the RES would not have been questioned. That’s all I’m saying. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46764" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The fact that DJ was part of the group instead of loner like I first thougth mainly changed my reads on certain people considering day 2, which is somewhat covered in my current reads post. <p> </p><p> (TSS and Rabbitman mainly but also Hellshock) as I was wondering if one of them could be fellow scum trying to save their scum mate.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I can see that as a possibility.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eliphas Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 <p>Town</p><p> bak42</p><p> </p><p> Town lean</p><p> Zergon</p><p> </p><p> Upper null</p><p> Eternal Phoenix</p><p> hellshock70</p><p> </p><p> null</p><p> michgcs</p><p> Destiny</p><p> moon_lit_tears</p><p> </p><p> lower null</p><p> Tha Black Phenom</p><p> Rabbitman</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> scum lean</p><p> Too Sweet Spartan</p><p> Emark</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> scum</p><p> Leion</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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