Fleisch Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 I saw everyone giving attributes for wrestlers and I think they're really fun and decided I would add my thoughts. Shane Douglas Amazing Heel (I know he has been a babyface but is really an all out heel so maybe 100%?) Shoots From The Lip (I mean, it's basically his gimmick.) Then add the negative relationships with The Kliq and Ric Flair which are well documented. James Maritato Giving Performer Life Long Underdog John Kronus Tag Team Specialist Lance Storm Dyanmo Tag Team Specialist? Future Road Agent Natural Trainer Matt Hyson Life Long Underdog Daredevil Mikey Whipwreck Daredevil Taz Squash Master Canny Operator Selfish Performer Troublesome Neck Future Colour Commenator Future Manager New Jack Tag Team Specialist Daredevil Deathmatch Wrestler Can't Stay Away Al Snow Natural Trainer Fitness Fanatic Tommy Dreamer Amazing Babyface Loyal Risk Taker High Pain Threshold Giving Performer Can't Stay Away I also noticed Stevie Richards has 0 pop. Thanks for all these, I shall get them added. Yeah, it seems a lot of less established wrestlers slipped through the net.... like an entire generation! I've nearly rectified this (I've about 70 left of the initial 411 to do). I gave both WWE and WCW a boost. Both are now considered Big - (mid to high 80's in US). I attempted to put them in the 90's but that just threw everything off and to be honest, I did not fancy going through hundreds (maybe more) workers to recalibrate the balance for a fourth time! Both being big I think is good enough for TV ratings, there is room for growth, and wrestlers can still grow with the company without the dreaded "We don't have enough stars" warning. I did give a few of the WWF guys a small pop boost as I seem to have underestimated them (Shamrock, Owen Hart, LOD etc...) I need to find a way to stop ECW from cancelling their relationship with WWF on day 1 too. Complete so far... ================== Updates for V1 ================== Default Name Changes: Alexander The Great is now Big Dick Dudley Devon Hughes is now Brother D-Von Mark LoMonico is now Brother Ray Cactus Jack is now Mick Foley Oficial 911 is now Halcon de Oro Oficial Fierro is now Ultra Mega (I couldn't find pics of earlier gimmicks) Oficial AK-47 is now Sureno de la Muerte Raziel is now Neo Reapper is now Psicosis II User Characters (so far): Mike Tyson David Arquette El Cholo Deleted (Duplicate of Cholo) Mitsunobu Kikuzawa Deleted (Duplicate of Kikutaro) Money Muscles Mansfield Deleted (Duplicate of Muscles Mansfield) Ted Turner Deleted (No longer needed in the data) Added Chastity to the data and ECW roster The Rock given a stats overhaul Chris Jericho given a stats overhaul Triple H given a stats overhaul Steve Austin given a stat update Chris Benoit slight boost to brawling Owen Hart Experience, Respect and Reputation boosted Rey Misterio Jr. boost to Flying/Flashiness Chuck Palumbo given a stat update Billy Kidman no longer set as a Road Agent Goldberg set as a wrestler (no idea why he wasn't) Bobby Walker no longer Occasional Wrestler Ernest Miller no longer has Announcer Role Scott Steiner set to Powerhouse (Christ knows why he was set as Technical Flyer!) Cancerbero alter-ego set to Messala (Ages 24 - 30) D'Lo Brown removed non-wrestling roles Bobby Heenan given a popularity decrease Bruno Sammartino attribute addition(s): "Keeps Kayfabe" Chris Kanyon attribute addition(s): "Very Creative", "Can Play Comedy" & "Can Play Mysterious/Occult" Chris Kanyon attribute removal(s): "Can't Play Comedy" & "Can't Play Bad Ass" Mitsuhiro Matsunaga attribute addition(s): "Deathmatch Wrestler" Terry Funk attribute addition(s): “Can’t Stay Away”, “Talent Spotter”, “Plays Offbeat/Unstable Well”, “Passes on Knowledge”, “Desperado” and "Troublesome Knee" Michael Cole attribute changes: "Better As Babyface", "Can't Play Badass", "Can't Play Dominant", "Faithful", "Plays Realistic Well", "Plays Weasely/Underdog Well" & "Professional" Alex Wright set to Fluent in English Yokozuna added to WWE but on hiatus with his weight issues until May 1998 Worker Relations: Eric Bishoff Strong Dislike of Honky Tonk Man Worker Relations: Justin Credible Strong Friendships with Scott Hall and Sean Waltman Sam Houston Relationship set to "No" Al Snow, Brakus, Droz, Doug Furnas & Phil LaFon all given Developmental deals with ECW (WWF contracted) Bill Alfonso added back to ECW (Managing Sabu & RVD) Nicole Bass added to ECW (Given 2 month hiatus to simulate being sent away for trianing) Jason Knight set to Manage Justin Credible Francine set to Manage Shane Douglas Sunny set to Manage Chris Candido Joel Gertner set to Manage The Dudleys Bill Wiles added to ECW (3 appearance deal) Gran Naniwa, Gran Hamada & Great Sasuke added to ECW (1 month loan deals) Sign Guy Dudley set to Personality CW Anderson set to Middleweight Damien Steele set to Middleweight Darren Drozdov set to Light Heavyweight Frank Stalletto set to Middleweight Matt Anoa'i set to Heavyweight and made available in Japan Ekmo made available in Japan El Diamante Nationality set to Dominican Danny Daniels given Wrestler role. Removed Occasional & Road Agent El Gallego date of birth - June 1968 Frank Finnegan date of birth - July 1966 El Oriental added to CMLL Pee Wee Moore added to ECW Jeff Jones added to ECW Al Snow attribute addition(s): "Flavour of the Month" The Rock attribute addition(s): "Shoots from the Lip" Sabu relationship set to "Married" Rob Van Dam relationship set to "Engaged" Joel Gertner relationship set to "Engaged" Fray Tormenta Style Changed to luchador. Debut set to 1974. Set to Occasional Wrestler Fray Torments attribute addition(s): 15 of them so not listing them all! Gabe Sapolsky added to ECW (Backstage worker) - Protege of Paul Heyman Garuda debut - June 2000 Updated WWF Women's title lineage (belt is retired at this point) Gene Snitsky set to Heavyweight Giant Silva alter ego: Gigante Silva (Mexico) Hanzo Nakajima is set as absent for 2 years Gosaku Goshogawara attribute addition(s): "Deathmatch Wrestler", High Pain Threshold" and "Risks Injury" Hayato Nanjyo added to NJPW HC Loc set to Hardcore style and Lightweight Homeless Jimmy date of birth - July 1973. Also made available in Japan. Hiroyuki Kondo set to Technician Kurt Angle debut set to August 1998 JJ Rougeau debut set to June 2001 Horshu added to WCW Inferno Kid set to Middleweight John Zandig set to Middleweight Joe Applebaumer added to APW Michael Modest added to APW Steve Rizzono added to APW Jay Smooth added to APW John Bradshaw attribute addition(s): "Bully", "Tag Specialist" and "Amazing Heel" Katsushi Takemura set to Lightweight Kayoko Haruyama added to JWP Kent Cole set as WCW Power Plant Graduate Keith Cole set as WCW Power Plant Graduate Keizo Matsuda set as Lightweight Kengo Mashimo debut set to April 2001. Also set as Lightweight Kevin Martenson DOB Sept 1981. Debut April 2004. Lexxus debut set to June 1994. Set to Middleweight - Powerhouse Lou Marconi set to Middleweight (given 2 appearance deal with ECW) Lyguila added to IWRG Tiger Mask IV added t Michinoku Pro Mark Sloan set to Small Marty Garner set to Lightweight Added Mask Loss (Medico Asesino Jr. as Shazam in 1980) Michael Kovac set to Middleweight Mot Van Kunder set to Small Nobukazu Hirai set to Lightweight Nygma added to AAA Polvora debut set to September 2000 Prince Nana set to Middleweight Rampage Brown set to Middleweight Quinn Nash set to Lightweight Psicosis II added to AAA Eric Bischoff set as CEO of WCW Kevin Sullivan set as Booker of WCW Popularity Boosts (64 female workers) Popularity Boosts (411 male workers) **Multiple People given "Tag Team Specialist" attribute** **Multiple Attribute changes (Can't be arsed to keep writing them down)** **Multiple Movesets Added** Tag Team: Chris Candido & Lance Storm (ECW) Tag Team: Tommy Dreamer & The Sandman (ECW) Tag Team: Rob Van Dam & Sabu (ECW) Tag Team: Danny Doring & Roadkill (ECW) - I changed Doring from Danny Morrison to Danny Doring (even though it was mid January in real life before he would use this name). Tag Team: Tracy Smothers & Little Guido (ECW as Full Blooded Italians) Tag Team: New Jack & Kronus (ECW as The Gangstanators) Tag Team: Blue Meanie & Super Nova (ECW as b.W.o) Tag Team: Chris Chetti & Jerry Lynn (ECW) Tag Team: Ekmo & Matt Anoa'i (FMW as The Samoans) Tag Team: Ekmo & Matt Anoa'i (WWF as Three-Minute Warning) Tag Team: Ekmo & Matt Anoa'i (None as The Island Boys) Tag Team: Kevin Quinn & Christopher Daniels (WWC as International Males) Tag Team: Kevin Quinn & Christopher Daniels (None as Overkill) Tag Team: PJ Black & Ray Leppan (None as Pure Juice) Paramount Deleted (added to Broadcaster changes) ABC, FOX, NBC & CBS set to Terrestial Commercial Sy-Fy renamed The Sci-Fi Channel WCW Production changes (also boost in Popularity) WWF Production changes (also boost in Popularity) ECW Production changes and Backstage Rules changed WCW & NJPW Trading Agreement added ECW & WWF Positive Relationship, Agree not to steal and ECW accept development deals from WWF. ECW & WCW Hostile Relationship ECW & FMW Positive Relationship, Talent Trade and Agree not to steal. ECW & MPro Postive Relationship, Agree not to Steal/Sign Added GWF Training School ECW Event Schedule reworked Normal (Shown on PPV in 98) ECW November To Remember ECW Heatwave ECW Wrestlepalooza ECW Living Dangerously ECW Cyberslam ECW Hostile City ECW Hardcore Heaven (when it revives) ECW Guilty as Charged (when it revives) Lesser (were not on PPV or TV) ECW A Matter of Respect (VHS only) ECW House Party (VHS only) ECW It Ain't Seinfeld (VHS only) ECW UltraClash (VHS only) ECW Hardcore TV set to #247 WCW Hall of Fame added WWF Hall of Fame added ECWA Hall of Fame added End of Year Awards 1992 - 1993 - 1994 - 1995 - 1996 - 1997 Dragon Bombers stable set to inactive in NJPW Raging Staff stable set to inactive in NJPW National Wrestling Alliance stable added to WWF (Jeff Jarrett, Rock n' Roll Express & Jim Cornette) WWF Invaders stable added to ECW (Lance Wright, Brakus, Darren Drozdov, Phil LaFon, & Doug Furnas) The Dudleys stable added to ECW (Buh Buh, D-Von, Big Dick, Sign Guy and Joel Gertner) Justin Credibles Entorage stable added to ECW (Justin Credible, Jason, Nicole Bass & Chastity) Several typo mistakes fixed New Undertaker picture (save it as The Undertaker_alt3.jpg) New Ted DiBiase picture (save it as Ted DiaBiase_alt.jpg) Added WCW/nWo Spring Stampede logo (save it as WCW nWo Spring Stampede.jpg) Ongoing storylines: WWF - Between a Rock & A Stone Cold Place (this story includes The Nation and Cactus Jack as support) - The Sibling Rivalry of Destruction - D-Generation X - Same old s@!# - Property of a Jealous Marc Mero - Gang Warz... the end. (DOA & Los Boricuas) WCW - Goldbergs Streak - Hall and The Living Legend - Hart vs. Flair - Who is really the best? - nWo Dissension - The War with WCW continues! - A Crippling time for The Flock ECW - A Franchise, A Suplex Machine & A Beast - Best of Enemies - Tag Team Title Storm - Incredible? Whipwreck thinks Otherwise - Beer Drinking, Cane Swinging, Death Defying Story - The Dudleys vs. The Gangstanators - The FBI (no not that one) versus The Freaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Fenoli Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Thanks for all these, I shall get them added. Yeah, it seems a lot of less established wrestlers slipped through the net.... like an entire generation! I've nearly rectified this (I've about 70 left of the initial 411 to do). I gave both WWE and WCW a boost. Both are now considered Big - (mid to high 80's in US). I attempted to put them in the 90's but that just threw everything off and to be honest, I did not fancy going through hundreds (maybe more) workers to recalibrate the balance for a fourth time! Both being big I think is good enough for TV ratings, there is room for growth, and wrestlers can still grow with the company without the dreaded "We don't have enough stars" warning. I did give a few of the WWF guys a small pop boost as I seem to have underestimated them (Shamrock, Owen Hart, LOD etc...) I need to find a way to stop ECW from cancelling their relationship with WWF on day 1 too. What happens if you make WWF and ECW sister companies? Or, maybe even make ECW a WWF developmental, since they were giving them money and talent around this time. IE Brakkus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 What happens if you make WWF and ECW sister companies? Or, maybe even make ECW a WWF developmental, since they were giving them money and talent around this time. IE Brakkus. I gave them a Development deal but they cancel it straight away. The Sister company idea sounds like a good one that may work. I'll give that a try. I want to avoid WWF owning ECW outright but I may have to for it to simulate the way I want it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skummy Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Presumably ECW and WWF splitting up would have something to do with the owners' personalities - particularly Vince being opposed to working with other promotions? It's a bit of received wisdom that Vince is an isolationist, but that's not strictly true in this time period - not only would the WWF be helping bankroll ECW and sending talent there, they were still working with AAA talent on Super Astros, were only a year away from working with OVW, and were doing the NWA invasion stuff. I might be way off the mark, but I think tweaking owner personalities might be a better solution than going with something like making the WWF own ECW, which I think would probably throw off other aspects of the game, particularly how ECW itself would operate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuotan Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 The product of the wwf should be "Attitude Entertainment" and not "Classic Sports Entertaining". AI Booking Style: Maybe "Evolving Western" for the western (USA, Canada, Europe) companys, "Evolving Puro" for japanese companys and "Evolving Lucha" for mexican companys? Edit: I have searchend for Road Agents with 0 experience. This are all Worker with more than 15 activ years: Antonio Pena Experience 100 Brian Dixon Experience 100 Bruce Prichard Experience 100 Dave Hebner Experience 100 David Crocket Experience 100 Dennis Coraluzzo Experience 100 Don Owen Experience 100 Frnacisco Lutteroth Experience 100 Go Ito Experience 100 Jack Tunney Experience 100 Jackie Fargo Experience 100 James Beard Experience 100 Jerry Jarrett Experience 100 Jim Barnett Experience 100 Jim Cornette Experience 100 Jim Crockett Jr. Experience 100 Kunimatsu Matsunaga Experience 100 KY Wakamatsu Experience 100 Lou Albano Experience 100 Max Crabtree Experience 100 Nelson Royal Experience 100 Ricky Sanchez Experience 100 Roland Alexander Experience 100 Ron West Experience 100 Tatsukuni Asano Experience 100 Verne Gagne Experience 100 Victor Quinones Experience 100 Wally Karbo Experience 100 Yusuke Yamaguchi Experience 100 I think the whole experience have to be looked at. There are many workers with lot of activ years that have low experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 I think the whole experience have to be looked at. There are many workers with lot of activ years that have low experience. Yes it's part of the mod that got missed when moving people with 0 experience in 1992 who should have some experience in 1998. I have certainly learned a lesson from this... do not use a mod that starts earlier to build another mod that is 6 years in the future! It actually produces an abomination of a data set that ends up almost getting deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Big is a much more suitable size for WCW. I hope I didn't come off poorly when I brought up the size initially. I'm over worked, burned out, and barely sleeping these days. I've been told I've seemed kind of snippy, so figured I'd apologize if that's how it came across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeaglexiii Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Couple other random bits: - “Hollywood” Bob Starr should be removed from ECW roster - Stevie Richards should have a 4 month starting absence, as he was out having neck surgery at this time (the one that messed up his vocal chords) - Justin Credible is married to someone outside the business - Beulah McGillicutty should have Outside Interests trait as she leaves the business mid-98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 Big is a much more suitable size for WCW. I hope I didn't come off poorly when I brought up the size initially. I'm over worked, burned out, and barely sleeping these days. I've been told I've seemed kind of snippy, so figured I'd apologize if that's how it came across. Nope it didn't come across like that to me. I know how you feel though. I don't remember the last proper sleep I got and have had to drop my hours at work just to get through the day. I believe I have now caught up with myself on the thread. There are going to be a lot more attributes assigned (although still this will be a wip). I really wanted to get employment histories done for WWF, WCW, ECW, AAA, CMLL, NJPW and AJPW for version 1 but that is going to definitely have to wait for a future update as there's no way I'll finish it by the weekend. It does look like Sunday will be release day now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 I'm actually off on Sunday so that last bit excites me. I'd really like to book the Wolfpac split better than reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 So everything people have mentioned should now be fixed. What a f'n rabbit hole I went down with this one! I think from now on I will build mods from the ground up because it is not much more work. I was watching some old WAR and W*ING matches earlier and it prompted the inclusion of WAR into the mod for version 1... and I have also cheekily added Wrestle Yume Factory just because I don't see them in many historical mods and thought why not seeing as most of their roster were already in the data. I have a few more things I want to do before I release it so we will say Sunday late morning/early afternoon (UK time) for a release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinqconnor Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 So everything people have mentioned should now be fixed. What a f'n rabbit hole I went down with this one! I think from now on I will build mods from the ground up because it is not much more work. I was watching some old WAR and W*ING matches earlier and it prompted the inclusion of WAR into the mod for version 1... and I have also cheekily added Wrestle Yume Factory just because I don't see them in many historical mods and thought why not seeing as most of their roster were already in the data. I have a few more things I want to do before I release it so we will say Sunday late morning/early afternoon (UK time) for a release. Great job smashing this out. I literally can't wait to try it out. Thank you for your hard work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeaglexiii Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 So everything people have mentioned should now be fixed. What a f'n rabbit hole I went down with this one! I think from now on I will build mods from the ground up because it is not much more work. Totally appreciate all the work you’ve poured into this mod. Having worked with clients who don’t get how much effort goes into what they see as ‘small changes’ to their projects, I can understand how complicated updating everything must have been if starting from scratch would have been easier! Looking forward to seeing this drop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuotan Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 One more day. I'm So hyped. It's like christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 New Release Soooo... hopefully this plays a lot better than the previous version - as with all mods, this will probably still have mistakes but I have not noticed anything game breaking so long term games should be good to go. Version 1 Released 17/10/2021 Data >>DOWNLOAD<< *17/10/2021* Picture Packs: Use the 1992 picture packs on the first post. If you have all the packs up to #6 for the 92 mod, you only need to download packs #7 & #8 for 1998 mod. If asked do you want to replace images, click yes. All packs are included in the main Picture Pack download if you don't have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalmus Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 *Does the Sami Zayn dance* Less goooooooooo!!! See you all for TEW25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I'm diving in setting up a hopeful WCW diary and HWA is set in Mid West, but they're based in Ohio in reality which is the great lakes. Easy fix though. Also, even though it's closed so it doesn't matter, Omni should be in South East Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuotan Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Is it correct that the WWF is medium and the WCW is large? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 Is it correct that the WWF is medium and the WCW is large? I thought they were both set as big so it is wrong if that is what it is showing as I spent ages balancing them both. EDIT: I've seen what's happened. WWF's popularity in Mexico is lower than it should be. I set it originally at 40, but for some reason when I've checked just then it's at 5... New data uploaded to fix this. This data will be the death of me! WCW is not showing as large on mine so I have no idea why it would be on yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuotan Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I thought they were both set as big so it is wrong if that is what it is showing as I spent ages balancing them both. EDIT: I've seen what's happened. WWF's popularity in Mexico is lower than it should be. I set it originally at 40, but for some reason when I've checked just then it's at 5... New data uploaded to fix this. This data will be the death of me! WCW is not showing as large on mine so I have no idea why it would be on yours. At WCW, I meant big. My mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raspymorten Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Having a blast so far! Just wanna quickly get a thing in though, sorry if you've already explained it or something, I'm dumb and I miss things. But from what I can gather online, I think the Four Horsemen were seperated in September 1997, and only came together again a year later as that weird thing that led to the Revolution. I might be wrong though. Wasn't exactly around to witness it at the time. lol Also, I believe you meant to set Rick Rude as Support for nWo, but you've got him as muscle atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuroJoshi Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Fleisch you continue to spoil us, thanks for all your hard work. Downloading now, excited to explore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeaglexiii Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Only had time to have a quick poke around and it looks great! Can't wait to get my teeth stuck into this. Hopefully I'll get chance later tonight to start up an ECW game, definitely gonna give WWF and maybe WCW a whirl at some point in the future too. Much obliged, Fleisch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sco xY2Jx Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Oh, hell yeah! I'm currently running 2 MP dynasties but the day will come when I'll run WWF and this will be the mod to do it with. Excited to finally check this out, Fleisch! Thanks for all the good, great work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Forgot to mention, thanks for all the hardwork brother. I am finally able to tell a story I've wanted to tell for many years and this mod starts at the perfect time. Cheap plug, but if anyone is interested, I am doing a WCW diary here *Edit* Just spotted a dupe, Vladimir Kozlov should probably be deleted as Oleg Prudius is his non-WWE name and has the alter egos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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