emilyishere Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 More notes on the 1992 mod: - Heisei Ishingun wasn't active until later on in 1992, specifically August - Although AKIRA and Iizuka did team together sporadically in New Japan from 1987 to 1990, they didn't regularly team until later on in 1992, and definitely weren't known as J-J-Jacks until 1993 - Shiro Koshinaka shouldn't be in Dragon Bombers due to being a heel - Norio Honaga should be a heel Good work though! Excited for how your other realworld mod turns out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Christian York needs strong friendships with Matt Hardy, Jeff Hardy, Shane Helms, and Shannon Moore Christian York needs best friend with Joey Matthews Joey Matthews needs strong friendship with Jeff Hardy, Shane Helms, and Shannon Moore I'm not sure when they became friends, but Christopher Daniels should probably have best friend with Frankie Kazarian and AJ Styles. They seem to have been friends for forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuotan Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 For the 1998 mod: Is Ric Flair popularity a little too high for the time? A little lower might be better. Maybe the same for Hulk Hogan? But I am not entirely sure. Sting a bit more for it. Undertaker is maybe easily too high. Ricky Steamboat's popularity needs to lower too. Likewise Sgt. Slaughter. Ultimate Warrior with 89 probably too high. DDP should perhaps be a bit higher. Additionally the attribute "Age is just a number" Scott Hall to low too? Tully Blanchard activ roles: Only occasional and Road Agent. Attribute: Amazing Heel. Future Manager. Jake Roberts: Attribute: Future Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daileyxplanet Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 WWF 1998's product requires one eye candy match, which isn't accurate for the beginning of the year. The first Sable / Luna Vachon match didn't occur until March. WWF is freaking out, hiring all of the 80s women like Debbie Combs trying to meet this demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 One more relationship, Shannon Moore should be best friends with Jeff Hardy Goldberg has "A Marketing Nightmare" attribute, should probably be Very marketable or marketing dream Some of these might be already in the data because I can't remember if I added them or not Kanyon needs strong friendship with Raven, James Mitchell, and DDP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted October 23, 2021 Author Share Posted October 23, 2021 WWF 1998's product requires one eye candy match, which isn't accurate for the beginning of the year. The first Sable / Luna Vachon match didn't occur until March. WWF is freaking out, hiring all of the 80s women like Debbie Combs trying to meet this demand. I will set it to no women's division as that's the only fix for that I'm afraid. I can't recode the hard coded Products. You'll need these pictures for next release; - Violent J.jpg - Shaggy 2 Dope.jpg - Scott Steiner_alt3.jpg EDIT: There are some attributes (well a lot) that I agree with but a few I don't so don't expect them to all make it. If you want me to explain why I didn't add one feel free to ask. EDIT: Wrestler yet to debut Missing?: Kelly Kelly Default name is Barbie Blank. Her alter Ego of Kelly Kelly is also in the data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarelskovic Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Goldberg: agreed with all said above and- WCW Contract should be "Goldberg" Power 90+ Athleticism 65 Exp need lower like 40 and Attribure: Stud Athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted October 23, 2021 Author Share Posted October 23, 2021 For the 1998 mod: Is Ric Flair popularity a little too high for the time? A little lower might be better. Maybe the same for Hulk Hogan? But I am not entirely sure. Sting a bit more for it. Undertaker is maybe easily too high. Ricky Steamboat's popularity needs to lower too. Likewise Sgt. Slaughter. Ultimate Warrior with 89 probably too high. DDP should perhaps be a bit higher. Additionally the attribute "Age is just a number" Scott Hall to low too? Tully Blanchard activ roles: Only occasional and Road Agent. Attribute: Amazing Heel. Future Manager. Jake Roberts: Attribute: Future Manager. Thanks for all the the feedback given. I can reduce their Popularity. I will be vigilant and ask though, were Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair and Undertaker not Major Stars of their promotions? What should they be number wise? Decreasing them is likely to drop them from Major to just Stars. I'll boost DDP & Stings popularity a little. I spent hours trying to balance WCW so I'm not willing to undo it easily (sorry but the way the game engine works, people wanted WCW bigger which means people have to have higher popularity to fit into the slots they were at) Honestly not being antagonistic, just trying to get this to the best possible version today as I wont be releasing another update afterwards if people say "Why aren't there more major stars in the big companies?!?". Slaughter and Steamboat will be given decreases. They were oversights from 1992 mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raspymorten Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Hey, this is a minor thing, but it looks like nobody else mentioned it. But Chris Jericho & Bryan Clark should probably use their alt pics. That, and if it ain't much trouble, I would appreciate an early 2000s Benoit picture being added. I do realize that there wouldn't be a world of difference between that and the 2007 pic that's already in (other than just, him looking older and stuff), but it would be nice to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeaglexiii Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Couple ECW notes: - Joel Gertner should be removed from the announcing team. Styles was still calling shows solo at this point - Paul Diamond's popularity should be reduced so he is Unimportant within ECW - I feel Tommy Rich should have his popularity reduced so he is Well Known at best and Recognisable at worst within ECW - If you want to set up for long term booking it might be worth considering removing Lance Storm from The Triple Threat stable and putting Bigelow back in. In storyline Storm is only with them for a couple months, never officially gets made a member and by the start of February the whole thing is revealed to be a ruse - Also, I'm not sure if it's something I did during the set-up, but the game created generic events to fill in the gaps for months without one. It didn't do that in the beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuotan Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Thanks for all the the feedback given. I can reduce their Popularity. I will be vigilant and ask though, were Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair and Undertaker not Major Stars of their promotions? What should they be number wise? Decreasing them is likely to drop them from Major to just Stars. I'll boost DDP & Stings popularity a little. I spent hours trying to balance WCW so I'm not willing to undo it easily (sorry but the way the game engine works, people wanted WCW bigger which means people have to have higher popularity to fit into the slots they were at) Honestly not being antagonistic, just trying to get this to the best possible version today as I wont be releasing another update afterwards if people say "Why aren't there more major stars in the big companies?!?". Slaughter and Steamboat will be given decreases. They were oversights from 1992 mod. Yes, maybe my advice was too petty. If only I would change everything by a few points. But that would likely be revised in the game within a short period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted October 23, 2021 Author Share Posted October 23, 2021 Sorry, I've had to deal with a real life emergency today so will have to release the data tomorrow. Its good to go but as I'm not near my home PC (or indeed home) I can't upload tonight. Tomorrow morning (UK time) is the revised release date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Real life comes first brother. No worries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nickman Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Fantastic work Fleisch, I’m really pumped to play some Attitude era WWF at the time period I love the most (Forlan’s 97 mod, while good, is just a little early for me) Agree with Jaysin though, real life always comes first. We can wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 I'm at work so can't check if they have the attributes, but Mike Bucci(Super Nova/Nova/Simon Dean) and Kanyon should have either Creative Dynamo or Very Creative attributes if they don't already. They're two of the most innovative workers of the 90s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted October 24, 2021 Author Share Posted October 24, 2021 *new Update* Version 1.1 now up for download on the first page. 2 more additional pictures (don't forget to download the 3 a little further up this thread as well for Steiner and the ICP) - Chris Benoit_alt3.jpg - Chris Benoit_alt4.jpg List of changes; ================== Updates for V1.1 ================== Deleted Vladimir Kozlov (Duplicate) Deleted Tanga Loa (Duplicate) Deleted Cavenario (Duplicate) Deleted Spud (Duplicate) Deleted Riddick Moss (Duplicate) Deleted Madman Fulton (Duplicate) Deleted Emi Motokawa (Duplicate) Added George Steel Added Violent J Added Shaggy 2 Dope IV Horsemen Stable - Inactive Billy Kidman - name changed to Kidman (WCW Contract) Shawn Michaels - Picture Change Stacy Carter Birthdate & Debut fixed New Age Outlaws - Set to Heel The Undertaker - Set to Face Okada set as a 2004 Graduate of Ultimo Dragon Gym Dragon Kid set as protege of Ultimo Dragon Dragon Kid vs. Darkness Dragon given Great Chemistry Mark Jindrak Protege of Paul Orndorff Haku - Loyalty to Anoa'i Family instead of Blood Rocky Maivia - Loyalty to Anoa'i Family instead of Blood Haku & Barbarian set as Best Friends Taz & Pee Wee moore set to Strong Friendship The Super Destroyers set to 40% Tag Experience John Kronus - Set to Face Balls Mahoney - Set to Face Axl Rotten - Set to Face Leo Tonga - Blood Relation to Haku, Kava and Nuku. Added Strong Friendship - Violent J with Sabu & Rob Van Dam Added Strong Friendship - Shaggy 2 Dope with Sabu & Rob Van Dam Added Best Friends - Shaggy 2 Dope with Violent J Added Tag Team - Insane Clown Posse Paul Heyman Picture updated WWF Logo Change ECW House of Hardcore logo updated ECW Heavywieght renamed ECW World Heavyweight Removed WWF's Women's Division (doesn't sim the company properly at that time with it active) Karl Anderson set to Lightweight Bryan Clarke Picture updated Chris Jericho Picture updated (also set style to Technical Flyer instead of High Flyer) Chris Benoit Picture updated (also a 2001 pic put in) Joel Gertner removed from Commentary (ECW) ECW Events set to fixed Various Popularity boosts/decreases. - Too many to list Various Attribute additions - Too many to list I will start working on updating the 92 mod next week. Once done, I will be looking to work on the 2002 Flashpoint data as I have a couple of ideas for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyc Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Thank you for the work in putting this 98 mod out Fleisch. Jan 98 is a fantastic time and I'm looking forward to rebooking the WCW run of Bret Hart. I've spotted a few very minor things that are easily corrected for anyone else who's looking to start a WCW game. 1. Davey Boy Smith, Jim Neidhart, and Rick Martel are set as heels when they should be faces. 2. Lex Luger has starting morale that means he's very angry with WCW, but this is based on something that happened in 1991. This is probably best deleted before starting a game. Other than those minor things, everything else looks great from what I can see as far as WCW is concerned. I'm looking forward to jumping into a game later today. Thank you once again Fleisch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeaglexiii Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Thanks so much for this, Fleisch. As soon as you mentioned you were releasing a final update I was glad I didn’t get time to start a game after the first release! Definitely gonna be doing an ECW save, but I’ve no doubt I’ll get multiple playthroughs with WWF and WCW too. Looking forward to any updates you got coming on the 92 mod as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daileyxplanet Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Thank you for the work in putting this 98 mod out Fleisch. Jan 98 is a fantastic time and I'm looking forward to rebooking the WCW run of Bret Hart. I've spotted a few very minor things that are easily corrected for anyone else who's looking to start a WCW game. 1. Davey Boy Smith, Jim Neidhart, and Rick Martel are set as heels when they should be faces. 2. Lex Luger has starting morale that means he's very angry with WCW, but this is based on something that happened in 1991. This is probably best deleted before starting a game. Other than those minor things, everything else looks great from what I can see as far as WCW is concerned. I'm looking forward to jumping into a game later today. Thank you once again Fleisch There's actually five different starting morales that should be deleted before beginning the game, also Davey Boy Smith is set to a handshake deal instead of written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raspymorten Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Here's a funny one that might be wrong, but maybe this is accurate for that time, I dunno. Only PPV deal WCW have, are with Foxtel PPV in Australia. Did not realize that before it was too late. I hope the Land Down Under really enjoyed Souled Out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 Here's a funny one that might be wrong, but maybe this is accurate for that time, I dunno. Only PPV deal WCW have, are with Foxtel PPV in Australia. Did not realize that before it was too late. I hope the Land Down Under really enjoyed Souled Out. Definite oversight. God knows what US PPV broadcaster was showing WCW in 98 though. So far for the 1992 update... ======================= Changes In Version 1.6 ======================= Deleted (as Duplicates) El Cholo Mitsunobu Kikuzawa Money Muscles Mansfield Seiji Yamakawa Tosacano Vladimir Kozlov Tanga Loa Cavenario Spud Riddick Moss Madman Fulton Emi Motokawa Added George Steele Chastity Tsubo Genjin Shigeo Kato Shinichi Shino Shinigami Nobuyuki Kurashima Billy Kidman no longer set as a Road Agent Goldberg set as a wrestler Bobby Walker no longer Occasional Wrestler Ernest Miller no longer has Announcer Role Scott Steiner set to Powerhouse D'Lo Brown removed all non-wrestling roles Stacy Carter Birthdate and Debut Year fixed. Kazuchika Okada set as a 2004 Graduate of Ultimo Dragon Gym CW Anderson set to Middleweight Damien Steele set to Middleweight Darren Drozdov set to Light Heavyweight Frank Stalletto set to Middleweight Matt Anoa'i set to Heavyweight Gene Snitsky set to Heavyweight Inferno Kid set to Middleweight John Zandig set to Middleweight Katsushi Takemura set to Lightweight Keizo Matsuda set as Lightweight Lou Marconi set to Middleweight Mark Sloan set to Small Marty Garner set to Lightweight Michael Kovac set to Middleweight Mot Van Kunder set to Small Nobukazu Hirai set to Lightweight Prince Nana set to Middleweight Rampage Brown set to Middleweight Quinn Nash set to Lightweight Shigeo Okumura set to Middleweight Skull Ganz set to Light Heavyweight Lexxus set as Middleweight. Powerhouse. Debut June 1994 Kengo Mashimo debut set as Lightweight. Debut April 2001 El Diamante Nationality set to Dominican Danny Daniels given Wrestler role. Fray Tormenta Style Changed to luchador. Debut set to 1974. Homeless Jimmy date of birth - July 1973 Kurt Angle debut set to August 1998 JJ Rougeau debut set to June 2001 Polvora debut set to September 2000 Added NJPW Greatest 18 Club championship *Player can use editor if they do not want title in game* Heisei Ishingun set to Inactive J-J-Jacks set to Inactive Shiro Koshinaka removed from Dragon Bombers Norio Honaga set as a heel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raspymorten Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 <p>Just wanna throw in a couple more picture requests! It's some minor stuff, but I wanna keep the thread active and give feedback and that!</p><p> </p><p> Juvie could do with a an older unmasked cut to go along with the WCW mask (Since his only unmasked picture rn is the mid 2000s Mexicools look). You know, for some proper Juicey Juice action.</p><p> </p><p> And Sasuke's default mask picture looks like it's one of the more modern designs that he has nowadays, instead of the older, more ninja-y stuff he had back then.</p><p> </p><p> And this is real picky hours, but I've always been a sucker for '99-early 2000s short haired Steve Corino. So if he could get a pic like that, then that'd be great.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="raspymorten" data-cite="raspymorten" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47565" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just wanna throw in a couple more picture requests! It's some minor stuff, but I wanna keep the thread active and give feedback and that!<p> </p><p> Juvie could do with a an older unmasked cut to go along with the WCW mask (Since his only unmasked picture rn is the mid 2000s Mexicools look). You know, for some proper Juicey Juice action.</p><p> </p><p> And Sasuke's default mask picture looks like it's one of the more modern designs that he has nowadays, instead of the older, more ninja-y stuff he had back then.</p><p> </p><p> And this is real picky hours, but I've always been a sucker for '99-early 2000s short haired Steve Corino. So if he could get a pic like that, then that'd be great.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not sure who did these cuts as I use a massive nGo file I've been adding to for years, but these are what I have if you want to use them.</p><p> </p><p> Juvie:</p><p> <img alt="G9CsMTe.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/G9CsMTe.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="FmCMYGb.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/FmCMYGb.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="QHlX6Os.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/QHlX6Os.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="RqcrGx9.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/RqcrGx9.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="8mCHYBo.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/8mCHYBo.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="418MCE1.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/418MCE1.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Sasuke:</p><p> <img alt="8Nygyvz.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/8Nygyvz.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="wJpIIYt.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/wJpIIYt.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="BQgubtj.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/BQgubtj.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="CWp66xh.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/CWp66xh.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="etQdZ58.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/etQdZ58.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Corino:</p><p> <img alt="rN8pKgy.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/rN8pKgy.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="2nwu7k9.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/2nwu7k9.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raspymorten Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47565" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not sure who did these cuts as I use a massive nGo file I've been adding to for years, but these are what I have if you want to use them.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thank you! I did substitute the cuts with some from the nGo pack I've got already (Tho I don't think a couple of these are in that pack), but I wanted to pop in and bring this up so Fleisch's main pack could get those additions as well. Since it's generally a top notch pack, and he has clearly put a lot of work into it.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="raspymorten" data-cite="raspymorten" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47565" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just wanna throw in a couple more picture requests! It's some minor stuff, but I wanna keep the thread active and give feedback and that!<p> </p><p> Juvie could do with a an older unmasked cut to go along with the WCW mask (Since his only unmasked picture rn is the mid 2000s Mexicools look). You know, for some proper Juicey Juice action.</p><p> </p><p> And Sasuke's default mask picture looks like it's one of the more modern designs that he has nowadays, instead of the older, more ninja-y stuff he had back then.</p><p> </p><p> And this is real picky hours, but I've always been a sucker for '99-early 2000s short haired Steve Corino. So if he could get a pic like that, then that'd be great.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <img alt="wCb9pd4.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/wCb9pd4.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="GlYDaUj.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/GlYDaUj.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="o9ddnLW.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/o9ddnLW.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> <img alt="0PQMSOZ.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/0PQMSOZ.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="xVxJahP.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/xVxJahP.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="zGfX7MA.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/zGfX7MA.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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