CWW Thread

[Blackman]

And hail the newest (and smallest) promotion in the C-verse. I had a soft spot for ROF as it was my first TEW-game. It went long and it's perhaps the easiest promotion to play because of the small scale. However, you only start with 10K in the bank. Luckily, the financial system has been reworked so workers come and perform for 30$.

 

Some nice signings include earlier ROF mainstays like:

 

- Don(ald) Henderson : 40$

- Merle O'Curle : Ye ol' champ. Will cost ya 200$, but worth every penny

- Billy Robinson : but he's in Japan atm so I doubt it's a good move atm.

- Walter Morgan : 80$

 

These are old, but can put over your younger workers.

 

I'm definitely picking this for the demo playthrough and my first dabs into the CV20. Anybody else? And what would you guys recommend?

[Powerful_Fox]

I've set CWW as a somewhat legitimate company. They're already my favourite company in the game.

 

I've got a Premier League, Cup and Shield tournaments set up and its run similar to the darts in real life.

[smw88]

Fancied giving the CWW logos ago whilst on a UK scene vibe

 

 

 

 

 

My render thread

[Blackman]

Nice one mate, ye truly be the King o' the North! _O_

[smw88]

Nice one mate, ye truly be the King o' the North! _O_

 

Thanks lol

 

I'll add the blank events template tomorrow encase people want to use these and add their own.

[Powerful_Fox]

<p>I started transforming my CWW as mentioned above into a Premier League, World Rankings, Cup style promotion.</p><p> </p><p>

<span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>Premier League</strong></span></p><p>

This is the list of participants in what will be the first season, ignore the Semi-Finals as they are just lookups against the current positions. Top 4 compete in a Grand Final, bottom gets relegation and 8th/9th compete in a relegation playoff.</p><p>

<img alt="bMyNnVm.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/bMyNnVm.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

This is how the league is going to be laid out. 9 matches so everyone wrestles each other and random wildcard match each to take it up to 10.</p><p>

<img alt="gZ6k9w7.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/gZ6k9w7.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

<span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>Shield</strong></span></p><p>

Ive also added a couple of tournaments (Shield - lower level, Cup - higher level, Survival - starts 4 vs 4 winners then split to tag team then the winners face each other in the final, and a Battle Royale).</p><p>

<img alt="p4md6rQ.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/p4md6rQ.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

<span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>World Rankings</strong></span></p><p>

The World Rankings are built up based on achievements over the past rolloing 3 seasons. They key to the right shows how they get their points.</p><p>

<img alt="ylBr0wo.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/ylBr0wo.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

I never pick the winners of the matches but I do put in RA notes to make the matches as good as possible e.g. "Call in Ring" where applicable etc.</p><p> </p><p>

<span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>Comparator</strong></span></p><p>

I have also been working on a comparator tool that reads from the saved game data, this will help me identify which rookie wrestler could be the next to get into the Premier League.</p><p>

<img alt="VsWVyd6.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/VsWVyd6.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

This all does make my Events schedule rather busy though haha but I have it all planned out at least:</p><p>

<img alt="0kqz7eI.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/0kqz7eI.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p>

<img alt="OuHuYts.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/OuHuYts.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

As the company grows, the plan is to make a second division, a womens division and a tag team tournament. Also a weekly TV Roadshow with a touring champion.</p><p> </p><p>

I appreciate that is a bit of a mammoth post... but yeah thats my plan for CWW haha.</p>

[Jaded]

Oh wow, amazing post Powerful Fox! CWW definitely seems perfect for a league format.

[Powerful_Fox]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaded" data-cite="Jaded" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47965" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Oh wow, amazing post Powerful Fox! CWW definitely seems perfect for a league format.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Cheers mate, in '16 I made my own companies to do this but as you say CWW seemed perfect. I need to take a little bit of creative license such as turning off match aims etc. but really it seems they were ready to go out of the box.</p><p> </p><p> The funny thing is once it's set up its so easy to rattle through shows and you got some genuinely shocking results at times too. </p><p> </p><p> I simply use a fixture list generator (<a href="https://www.fixturelist.com/createlist" rel="external nofollow">https://www.fixturelist.com/createlist</a>) to create the league fixtures and then random.org for the tournaments then that's a full years worth of matches all done!</p>

[TJ94]

Planning on playing with them when the full game comes out. Normally I just make my own company in the Cverse, but they caught my eye right away. Their style of wrestling is one that I enjoy a lot in real life. Thinking about trying to get into an alliance/partnership with UEW after a move up in size. Feel like they could be natural allies.

[Blackman]

Wow, how did you make that comparison tool? I can whip something similar up in excel (had to do it for work), but not this good-looking.

 

Anyhow, if anyone ends up signing Merle O'Curle, ffs change your schedule for january, as I didn't check it (c'mon... what are the odds? ) and boom, missed him.

[Powerful_Fox]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47965" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Wow, how did you make that comparison tool? I can whip something similar up in excel (had to do it for work), but not this good-looking.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I imported the workers and contracts sheets from the exported mdb file into Excel. Then it was a case of a few Index and Match formulas to pull the skills and stuff together, then it was just a case of making some radar charts on that data.</p><p> </p><p> I can take a couple screens of the formulas later when I get to my pc tonight. For the last TEW, I popped the whole excel file up for download but the underlying bits and pieces are a bit messy and I'd like to polish it bit before I try that again.</p><p> </p><p> I'm also open to suggestions on how to make it a bit better in terms of cleanliness and additions etc.</p>

[Powerful_Fox]

<p>Should the desire to come about where I do some write up's on this game, I've also put together a "Tale of the Tape" template that looks up info on the name drop-down list, I can just screen cap it and save it for every match I suppose.</p><p> </p><p> <img alt="SwFeTXp.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/SwFeTXp.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> It might not get used at all in fairness as I do tend to drop out of write ups/dynasties shortly after starting them but it was just something a bit extra I thought of just now.</p><p> </p><p> Anyway, the INDEX and MATCH formula I have been using is along the lines of this:</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47965" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>=INDEX(Workers[bodyType],MATCH(C$3,Workers[Name],0))</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The "Workers[bodyType]" is a reference to the data you want to pull in and its location e.g. this will pull in "Average" or "Muscular", the "MATCH(C$3,Workers[Name]" takes the value you want to reference and finds it in the data in this case the Workers Name.</p><p> </p><p> I hope that makes sense.</p>

[lavelleuk]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="smw88" data-cite="smw88" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47965" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="l47iQaB.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/l47iQaB.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2410627&posted=1#post2410627" rel="external nofollow">My render thread</a></p></div><p></p><p></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's so cool lol. Great work!</p>

[smw88]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Powerful_Fox" data-cite="Powerful_Fox" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47965" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Should the desire to come about where I do some write up's on this game, I've also put together a "Tale of the Tape" template that looks up info on the name drop-down list, I can just screen cap it and save it for every match I suppose.<p> </p><p> <img alt="SwFeTXp.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/SwFeTXp.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> It might not get used at all in fairness as I do tend to drop out of write ups/dynasties shortly after starting them but it was just something a bit extra I thought of just now.</p><p> </p><p> Anyway, the INDEX and MATCH formula I have been using is along the lines of this:</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> The "Workers[bodyType]" is a reference to the data you want to pull in and its location e.g. this will pull in "Average" or "Muscular", the "MATCH(C$3,Workers[Name]" takes the value you want to reference and finds it in the data in this case the Workers Name.</p><p> </p><p> I hope that makes sense.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> love a bit of excel usage, plus nice FM nod in the comparison charts</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lavelleuk" data-cite="lavelleuk" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47965" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That's so cool lol. Great work!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> Thank you, I got a laugh out of putting that one together</p>

[Bad Collin]

I played with CWW first time through the demo and found them a bit boring due to the long match requirements and the lack of angles. Having read this thread however I think a CWW save with leagues and cups would be really good fun. I imagine you'd have sport style interviews and analysis afterwards.

[Blackman]

I played with CWW first time through the demo and found them a bit boring due to the long match requirements and the lack of angles. Having read this thread however I think a CWW save with leagues and cups would be really good fun. I imagine you'd have sport style interviews and analysis afterwards.

 

I've tried it in ROF a decade ago but it eventually gets boring once you've brought in tens of 'guest' competitors. When you're exhausted the potential matchups, it becomes a bit of a drag.

 

In WMMA5, it's more fun as it's actually a competitive environment. It's true you hold off on setting a "winner" match note, but it's unclear to me what is the deciding factor for the AI there. I think it's largely based on popularity, but maybe it's even 50/50 (I doubt it though, at least during TEW16). It can be fun to see what the AI goes for.

 

It's interesting to see how you value the stats then. Personally I'd say a size difference of 2+ is the most relevant, but in practice you could have a "low middleweight" be the same as a "high lightweight", so one level doesn't really matter. But in CWW I wouldn't sign a heavyweight anyway, so it's probably not an issue.

 

Just as feedback on your method, I would also not take safety, reputation and respect into account, though the latter might be debatable. I'd also drop resiliency as it serves as an indicator for random events.

[SidHickenbottom]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47965" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> Some nice signings include earlier ROF mainstays like:</p><p> </p><p> - Don(ald) Henderson : 40$</p><p> - Merle O'Curle : Ye ol' champ. Will cost ya 200$, but worth every penny <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> - Billy Robinson : but he's in Japan atm so I doubt it's a good move atm.</p><p> - Walter Morgan : 80$</p><p> </p><p> These are old, but can put over your younger workers.</p><p> </p><p> I'm definitely picking this for the demo playthrough and my first dabs into the CV20. Anybody else? And what would you guys recommend?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I haven't messed around with CWW yet during the demo, but I used it during 2016, usually with Walter Morgan as my user character. Merle was awesome with CWW settings, as long as you could keep him. I also liked Robinson and Nigel Svennson as solid uppercard guys.</p>

[Powerful_Fox]

<p>I only have 1 show left to do in the trial and that is my second tournament final. Its a 30-Minute Iron Man Match between Curtis Jenkins and Padraig O'Hearne. </p><p> </p><p>

Here is the Tale of the Tape (Note: The Premier League season hasn't started and won't until the full game comes out so their position is purely alphabetical but the World Ranking and Total CWW record are correct) the final will be a close one!</p><p>

<img alt="w0aSqil.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/w0aSqil.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

I also made a very basic roster overview as a quick view in my Excel file:</p><p>

<img alt="q1xuyOl.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/q1xuyOl.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

For anyone interested, here are their skills compared:</p><p>

<img alt="jtXTXIb.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/jtXTXIb.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

With only 2 pop points between Jenkins and O'Hearne and an exact same Total W/L record, the final should make for a very interesting match.</p>

[Blackman]

Huh... The King of the North title was won by "Jonni" at King of the North 2020...

 

Was this programmed in? He even looks a bit like Jon Snow imo.

 

@PowerfulFox: For the sake of the graphics looking more alike, I'd personally cut "basics" and "respect" from the fundAmentals. It doesn't do anything in-ring and for immersion should be covered by "experience".

[Don Hughes]

Great stuff Powerful Fox!!! Two questions:

 

1. How do you book the workers who are not in the league/tournaments?

 

2. How do you handle somebody leaving due to being signed up by someone else?

[Don Hughes]

I wonder how this would in a FAUX MMA style promotion? Maybe even a Road To Glory Game? Hmmmmm...

[Blackman]

I wonder how this would in a FAUX MMA style promotion?

 

The good: you can get away with short "KO"/"submission"-finish matches, and you're not tied to specific match aims for each show. Plus the whole league-style structure makes more sense.

 

The bad: that style favors popular workers slightly more, which will be a pain in CWW or your own minor organisation. You also won't make money as this sort of product won't really be "traditional" anymore. Lastly, the style is more intensive as well, so if you're running a weekly schedule, they might not make season 10.

[Munit]

Hey guys I saw this thread and thought Id post my belts I made for the company in case anyone wants to use them. I posted them in Lavelle's thread.. however I wanted to share it here just in case someone didn't see them and wants to use them.

 

CWW Greater Manchester

 

 

CWW National

 

CWW Tag Team

 

[Powerful_Fox]

These are stellar mate, thank you!

[Powerful_Fox]

@PowerfulFox: For the sake of the graphics looking more alike, I'd personally cut "basics" and "respect" from the fundAmentals. It doesn't do anything in-ring and for immersion should be covered by "experience".

 

Yep that's a good point mate, I will chop those out.

 

Great stuff Powerful Fox!!! Two questions:

 

1. How do you book the workers who are not in the league/tournaments?

 

2. How do you handle somebody leaving due to being signed up by someone else?

 

They go in the pre-show as the "under-card". I grab their names and put them in either a random generator or I have a look at match performances to see who could put on a good undercard match. To give them plenty of experience I also added a monthly "Tour" show which is actually a lesser event type and will focus predominantly the undercard, a Fighting Championsip match (Fighting Championship is the only typical belt defended at each show where possible) and maybe a pop in from one of the bigger names.

 

I added this little monkey in to track who my better performers are:

 

Your second question is really interesting as frankly... I don't know. My initial response would be to use an understudy and give them the average of the league points and let them finish off the previous workers' matches. I think that would be the fairest way.

 

 

To be honest, I haven't found any issues with the game prioritizing popularity, I have had quite a few somewhat surprising results and 4-5 real shock results in 2 months so far. At the same time, it keeps the realism of favourites for the majority. I think it has the balance down really well, if anything I'd say it has had more surprising results than expected.

 

EDIT: Since the beta was extended, I actually restarted this from scratch a few days ago as a completely new save. Its worked out very interesting with Martin Heath and Jon Michael Sharp (100 Experienced tag team) being the finalists of one competition and another competition having a shock winner in JK Lee.