Killing the Business 2020 MOD FULL RELEASE

[TheCed]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="gazwefc83" data-cite="gazwefc83" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49440" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I needed to set some events as tours to stop the AI creating a weekly TV show, those are the ones i chose.</div></blockquote><p> Oh, cool. So as a player I can just set them as Lesser or Normal?</p>

[ViatorLipsia]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="landxx" data-cite="landxx" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49440" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Omg this sucks......</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's extremly difficult to understand how fast a life can be over <img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> ...</p><p> </p><p> Meanwhile, before the tragic News about Danny Havoc, GCW announced a Outdoor Event for later this Month "GCW: The Wrld on GCW II"</p><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedOther"> <iframe data-embedid="d02e39173755d300f8ff2b8c9a32caf8" allowfullscreen="" data-embed-src="<___base_url___>/index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=embed&url=https://twitter.com/GCWrestling_/status/1267150613135097856"></iframe> </div>

[Cor99]

Agreed, i think if some people took the time to play a mod for 6 or so months in stead of diving straight into the editor and checking every-bodies stats they would see that the mod plays extremely well, nothing out of the ordinary or unrealistic happens based on the popularities set in game.

 

I’ve seen 0 issues honestly (other than some broadcaster minimums maybe needing to be lowered).

 

 

AEW’s viewership is closer to NXT. RAW & SD get a far higher amount (likely too high).

[louis1016]

People thinking Hogan is still a draw in 2020.

 

What a wild world.

 

Hogan will be a draw until his death.

 

If he were to be advertised for an AEW title shot next week all wrestling fans and their mothers would watch the match. Same cant be said for Omega, Rollins, or almost anybody else in the current day

[njmcfreak]

I wish TEW had a stat/feature for previous peak popularity. Nostalgia pops are very real in wrestling if an older wrestler who used to be super popular and hasn't been seen in a long time suddenly appears. If they were a regular part of the show again they wouldn't have the same affect on attendance like they used to, but the fans that are still there will love it. So at the very least, it could add to the overall rating of the show, or make a segment hotter, or something along those lines, but it shouldn't be used to launch a company into the stratosphere.

 

I always think about when Sandman came back to ECW and how that was one of the closest things I've seen to a 100 rated segment I've ever seen. In TEW it would be a 45 rated segment and penalised for commentary. I get it, TEW is a game and there's only so much, but I always wanted to try to do that in my game.

[njmcfreak]

Hogan will be a draw until his death.

 

If he were to be advertised for an AEW title shot next week all wrestling fans and their mothers would watch the match. Same cant be said for Omega, Rollins, or almost anybody else in the current day

 

I hate to double post, but sadly he is. If there was one wrestler that isn't Stone Cold or THe Rock who will draw for their lifetime it's Hulk Hogan.

[ubernoob]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="njmcfreak" data-cite="njmcfreak" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49440" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I hate to double post, but sadly he is. If there was one wrestler that isn't Stone Cold or THe Rock who will draw for their lifetime it's Hulk Hogan.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah that's why Hogan has been headling PPVs since the 90s without stopping currently until 2020, and why TNA did such good business with him as a focus. Hogan draws so much money brother.</p><p> </p><p> There's a difference between a nostalgia pop and a draw. </p><p> </p><p> Hogan doesn't sell tickets, despite what you might think. People wouldn't buy tickets to watch Hogan fight for an AEW belt lmao.</p>

[ViatorLipsia]

<p>Expecting some Problems with Game Changer Wrestling:</p><p> </p><p>

Due to the Setting to Deathmatch Wrestling Matches in GCW it isn' really possible to make shows, i've started with the Nick Gage Invitational, an Deathmatch Tournament, result: half Roster = Injured.</p><p>

Surely due to overbooking Wrestlers with 2-3 Deathmatches in one Show this could happen, but 6 Injuries in One show?</p><p> </p><p>

When i use the Event as Normal Event, i've also was expecting 4 Injuries without Overbooking :/</p>

[Cor99]

Is there a way to add in Cinematic matches with this DB?

[gazwefc83]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ViatorLipsia" data-cite="ViatorLipsia" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49440" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Expecting some Problems with Game Changer Wrestling:<p> </p><p> Due to the Setting to Deathmatch Wrestling Matches in GCW it isn' really possible to make shows, i've started with the Nick Gage Invitational, an Deathmatch Tournament, result: half Roster = Injured.</p><p> Surely due to overbooking Wrestlers with 2-3 Deathmatches in one Show this could happen, but 6 Injuries in One show?</p><p> </p><p> When i use the Event as Normal Event, i've also was expecting 4 Injuries without Overbooking :/</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Maybe book your opening rounds with regular hardcore matches?</p>

[Shika1993]

Simmed a year and love the stats. Not so overpowered like in many other mods. One problem: I think companies like MLW and ROH are rising too fast. I think the problem is the broadcasters. Maybe they should have higher requirements or their coverage should be decreased.

MLW Fusion for example had 330.00 Viewers in their first show. Isnt that too high? I honestly dont know.

youtube is big and all the small companies have deals with them so thats why mlw is rising so fast?

Because of that a guy like mance warner has 80 popularity in the usa after one year without working for a another company other than gcw and mlw.

 

Thanks for the mod & cant wait for the mnw mod!

 

Edit:

Checked the finances and most companies seem to make an absurd amount of money.

some examples(dollar per year)

New Japan: +50 Million (last month: 12mio ticket sales & 7 mio broadcast)

MLW: +10 Million (last month: 1.9mio ppv)

ROH: +9 Million (last month: 1.2 mio ppv)

 

Economy & Industry is ca 60

[gazwefc83]

Simmed a year and love the stats. Not so overpowered like in many other mods. One problem: I think companies like MLW and ROH are rising too fast. I think the problem is the broadcasters. Maybe they should have higher requirements or their coverage should be decreased.

MLW Fusion for example had 330.00 Viewers in their first show. Isnt that too high? I honestly dont know.

youtube is big and all the small companies have deals with them so thats why mlw is rising so fast?

Because of that a guy like mance warner has 80 popularity in the usa after one year without working for a another company other than gcw and mlw.

 

Thanks for the mod & cant wait for the mnw mod!

 

Cheers bud, you can down the beta for the MNW mod, now named Hostile Takeover here - http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=548175

[ubernoob]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Shika1993" data-cite="Shika1993" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49440" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Simmed a year and love the stats. Not so overpowered like in many other mods. One problem: I think companies like MLW and ROH are rising too fast. I think the problem is the broadcasters. Maybe they should have higher requirements or their coverage should be decreased.<p> MLW Fusion for example had 330.00 Viewers in their first show. Isnt that too high? I honestly dont know.</p><p> youtube is big and all the small companies have deals with them so thats why mlw is rising so fast?</p><p> Because of that a guy like mance warner has 80 popularity in the usa after one year without working for a another company other than gcw and mlw.</p><p> </p><p> Thanks for the mod & cant wait for the mnw mod!</p><p> </p><p> Edit:</p><p> Checked the finances and most companies seem to make an absurd amount of money.</p><p> some examples(dollar per year)</p><p> New Japan: +50 Million (last month: 12mio ticket sales & 7 mio broadcast)</p><p> MLW: +10 Million (last month: 1.9mio ppv)</p><p> ROH: +9 Million (last month: 1.2 mio ppv)</p><p> </p><p> Economy & Industry is ca 60</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yup, that's the balance of broadcasters currently sadly.</p>

[Thane of Fife]

It looks like there may be some workers in the database who have both Plays Offbeat/Unstable Well and Can't Play Offbeat/Unstable, which I believe was (or maybe still is) a problem when converting from TEW 2016. The ones I noticed were Eddie Edwards and Brandon Tolle (who is a referee, so it's a bit odd that he would play anything well, but I digress), but it looks to be pretty common among workers who have Plays Offbeat/Unstable Well. There are also only three workers who have Plays Mysterious/Occult Well, which I think was/is another conversion problem.

 

On a more amusing note, in the Watcher game I've simmed out to 2023, NXT has (slightly) more US popularity than WWE does. AEW is #1 in the US somehow, despite Dynamite currently only showing on YouTube (Japan) and YouTube (Mexico). I guess their PPVs are holding them up?

[wolfwwe]

Sooo Jessamyn Duke was voted the "Best Technical Wrestler in the World" by fans online 3 weeks into my game with the newest update...

[gazwefc83]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="wolfwwe" data-cite="wolfwwe" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49440" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Sooo Jessamyn Duke was voted the "Best Technical Wrestler in the World" by fans online 3 weeks into my game with the newest update...</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Very strange, shes not even close, she has 70 in technical <img alt=":confused:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[wolfwwe]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="gazwefc83" data-cite="gazwefc83" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49440" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Very strange, shes not even close, she has 70 in technical <img alt=":confused:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well so is Chad Gable, he wrestled in the olympics and has been called the best wrestler on the roster by a bunch of his peers on several occasions, and Daniel Bryan is only 10 pts higher. 80 is probably good for Bryan, but I think 70 is way too high for Duke. Sure, she was in MMA, but she's clearly not that good in pro wrestling.</p><p> </p><p> Aside from this, Jessamyn Duke and Daniel Bryan have matching Charisma and Microphone skills. That's just not right. Bryan is one of the top stars ever in the business (this is a long list, but he's on it), and his promos and charisma should be pushing 95 IMO. Duke is still so incredibly awkward on-screen. It's probably why we still haven't really seen much of her lol. She's also 10 pts higher than Bryan in puroresu. Duke should be like 20 and Bryan should be at like 75 in that category. I know I can edit all this myself, I just was shocked by all this.</p><p> </p><p> Really appreciate the database though. Respect for the time you put in. Thank you.</p>

[gazwefc83]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="wolfwwe" data-cite="wolfwwe" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49440" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well so is Chad Gable, he wrestled in the olympics and has been called the best wrestler on the roster by a bunch of his peers on several occasions, and Daniel Bryan is only 10 pts higher. 80 is probably good for Bryan, but I think 70 is way too high for Duke. Sure, she was in MMA, but she's clearly not that good in pro wrestling.<p> </p><p> Aside from this, Jessamyn Duke and Daniel Bryan have matching Charisma and Microphone skills. That's just not right. Bryan is one of the top stars ever in the business (this is a long list, but he's on it), and his promos and charisma should be pushing 95 IMO. Duke is still so incredibly awkward on-screen. It's probably why we still haven't really seen much of her lol. She's also 10 pts higher than Bryan in puroresu. Duke should be like 20 and Bryan should be at like 75 in that category. I know I can edit all this myself, I just was shocked by all this.</p><p> </p><p> Really appreciate the database though. Respect for the time you put in. Thank you.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Daniel Bryan is no way a 95 on the mic.</p><p> </p><p> 100 would be Ric Flair, The Rock, Jake Roberts etc, no way is Daniel Bryan even close to them. He's not even close to some of the guys currently in WWE, never mind ever.</p>

[tryker2710]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="gazwefc83" data-cite="gazwefc83" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49440" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Daniel Bryan is no way a 95 on the mic.<p> </p><p> 100 would be Ric Flair, The Rock, Jake Roberts etc, no way is Daniel Bryan even close to them. He's not even close to some of the guys currently in WWE, never mind ever.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Regardless of Bryan, Duke and Shafir are just... not very good either in the ring or on the mic</p>

[wolfwwe]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="tryker2710" data-cite="tryker2710" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49440" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Regardless of Bryan, Duke and Shafir are just... not very good either in the ring or on the mic</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Exactly. </p><p> </p><p> And Bryan is incredibly underrated on the microphone, and sure, he's not like Rock or Austin status, but regardless of that, dude cuts amazing promos, ones that I'm invested in every time. He's one of the best in WWE, and that's not to say everyone else who is great isn't great, but he's at that level too. He speaks like an actual human, and sounds very natural. His charisma, promos and matches are all great. Duke and Shafir? Not so much. Plus, we've barely seen them, really. Maybe set them as having potential in certain categories?</p><p> </p><p> Gable has nothing over 55 under "Performance Skills"? Dude is charismatic af. Sorry to put all this on blast, and I'm honestly not even sure if this kind of stuff has been brought up in here before. I haven't looked at this thread since I downloaded the data.</p>

[Cor99]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="gazwefc83" data-cite="gazwefc83" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49440" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Daniel Bryan is no way a 95 on the mic.<p> </p><p> 100 would be Ric Flair, The Rock, Jake Roberts etc, no way is Daniel Bryan even close to them. He's not even close to some of the guys currently in WWE, never mind ever.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I used to be of the same mindset.</p><p> </p><p> Then Bryan did the Planet's Champion stuff and changed my mind. He's terrific on the mic.</p><p> </p><p> Perhaps not 95, but mid-high 80's?</p>

[GooseRobb]

A few good promos don't make you great. I'd say he's slightly better than average. Maybe a 75-80 at most

[wolfwwe]

A few good promos don't make you great. I'd say he's slightly better than average. Maybe a 75-80 at most

 

Average should be like 50-55 though. I've been watching Bryan cut promos for almost 20 years, I'm not just talking about a few promos. His promo work has improved so much, and I even remember his heel promos in ROH as the World champion in 2005-2006 were top stuff. He had crowds in the palm of his hand, which he still does to this day. The idea that Bryan was ever lacking charisma or promo ability was just a joke.

 

I understand that other guy said he changed his mind with the Planet's Champion promos, but I'm telling you, Bryan is very, very good.

[ubernoob]

It's all personal anyways.

 

In terms of this mod, I'd put him at an 80. He's up there with the best in the WWE right now, but they don't have anyone at that Rock/Stone Cold status (which would be 100) and I'd say there's a tier between them and the top guys in WWE today (which would be 90 in this mod.)

[ubernoob]

arguing minute numbers that don't matter.

 

I don't think you can read then, because the mod page clearly states this on the front:

 

Stats have been assigned based on the below parameters from TEW 2016

 

90 = Excellent

80 = Great

70 = Good

55 = Decent

45 = Not Awful

30 = Awful

 

Argue those numbers, not the in-between that you so clearly are clinging too.

 

Bryan would be an 80. Duke would be a 55 probably in technical. Gable would be a 55 in stuff like charisma, and a 70 or 80 in technical depending on what you think of his matches.