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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="franticloser" data-cite="franticloser" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49796" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Any chance you will release the data first? I know you like having everything together but some of us want to relive our childhood <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not going to release until its 100%, if anyone wants to help with the pic pack that would speed up the process.</p>
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If I knew what I was doing I'd totally offer my help but sadly any images I've tried end up fairly terrible. I don't know how I've missed this thread but I'm beyond excited for this. The era i grew up watching and from the creator of one of my favorite mods, can't wait.
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<p>Looks like some great work gaz just a couple notes</p><p> </p><p>

When you listed the wcw roster you had Jericho as heel.. pretty sure at the time he was face as he came in and worked Benoit who was heel. </p><p> </p><p>

The other thing I noticed from the screenshots is that there seem to be mercenaries.. bullies and professionals..i am guessing attrbutes have not been sorted yet since conversion...if they have im not sure I would personally have taz down as a Bully. </p><p> </p><p>

Said it before but love the new pictures</p>

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Looks like some great work gaz just a couple notes

 

When you listed the wcw roster you had Jericho as heel.. pretty sure at the time he was face as he came in and worked Benoit who was heel.

 

The other thing I noticed from the screenshots is that there seem to be mercenaries.. bullies and professionals..i am guessing attrbutes have not been sorted yet since conversion...if they have im not sure I would personally have taz down as a Bully.

 

Said it before but love the new pictures

 

All attributes have been done. I based ecw's on this article

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesportster.com/wrestling/10-ecw-alumni-who-are-jerks-in-real-life-and-10-who-are-sweethearts/amp/

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That's not a bad article to pull from. A lot of it measures up with what I've read elsewhere. However, I do think a case can be made for reeling in some of these negative attributes.

 

For example, Taz(z) is described as "a massive douche" with "big attitude problems." The evidence for that is that he "attended New York City's most famous wrestling convention a few years ago and spoke on how he hated the fans in it."

 

For the sake of argument, let's say this is a 100% accurate encapsulation of the Tazz of today. (Well, technically, the Tazz of 2017 when the article was written.) Is that the same Tazz of 1996, when your mod is set?

 

I don't know the guy, I'm not his friend -- I'm just someone who reads a fair number of "behind the scenes" wrestling news and interviews. My admittedly limited understanding is that the Tazz of today is bitter about how his WWF wrestling run didn't go the way he'd hoped. If he's a Bully today, the odds are it stems largely out of that.

 

The 1996 Tazz is by most every account an intense, self-obsessed, egotistical, often miserable dude. Not a Bully, though -- certainly not like JBL, who has a documented history of picking on other workers. Instead of Bully, I'd make a case for Intense, Gloomy or Prickly.

 

Similarly, the article's critique of Joey Styles finds fault with his behavior "since the death of ECW." But I've not seen criticism of the guy that goes back to 1996. (He could have been the worst person in the world back then for all I know -- I just haven't seen evidence for it.)

 

On the other hand, Bubba Ray Dudley as a Bully sounds right on point, considering comments from René Dupree and Rico Constantino. If those accounts can be believed, then Bubba's Safety rating of 70 looks to be set too high.

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That's not a bad article to pull from. A lot of it measures up with what I've read elsewhere. However, I do think a case can be made for reeling in some of these negative attributes.

 

For example, Taz(z) is described as "a massive douche" with "big attitude problems." The evidence for that is that he "attended New York City's most famous wrestling convention a few years ago and spoke on how he hated the fans in it."

 

For the sake of argument, let's say this is a 100% accurate encapsulation of the Tazz of today. (Well, technically, the Tazz of 2017 when the article was written.) Is that the same Tazz of 1996, when your mod is set?

 

I don't know the guy, I'm not his friend -- I'm just someone who reads a fair number of "behind the scenes" wrestling news and interviews. My admittedly limited understanding is that the Tazz of today is bitter about how his WWF wrestling run didn't go the way he'd hoped. If he's a Bully today, the odds are it stems largely out of that.

 

The 1996 Tazz is by most every account an intense, self-obsessed, egotistical, often miserable dude. Not a Bully, though -- certainly not like JBL, who has a documented history of picking on other workers. Instead of Bully, I'd make a case for Intense, Gloomy or Prickly.

 

Similarly, the article's critique of Joey Styles finds fault with his behavior "since the death of ECW." But I've not seen criticism of the guy that goes back to 1996. (He could have been the worst person in the world back then for all I know -- I just haven't seen evidence for it.)

 

On the other hand, Bubba Ray Dudley as a Bully sounds right on point, considering comments from René Dupree and Rico Constantino. If those accounts can be believed, then Bubba's Safety rating of 70 looks to be set too high.

 

That's very fair, thanks for the feedback, I'll make some changes today.

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Kiss that belt goodbye, Shawn. It's Vader Time! <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />
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Loving the new screen shots. Any chance you'll have more Shane Douglas & Sandman cuts to choose from? It'll feel a little weird playing as 1996 ECW & using Shane & Sandman's 1999 WCW pics. :p Sorry to be such a stickler. It's my OCD kicking in.

 

Yeah bud, just need to find some good pics

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How far along in this mod would you say you are? Is a release far off? Will there be any betas? Just curious

 

The data is pretty much done, iv got some popularity and stat tweaking to do and title lineages, I could have to data finished within a day. The pic pack is holding everything up, iv still got about 600 cuts to do and that's without agers, alter egos etc

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So iv decided that I'm going to release a BETA in the next few days, this will give me chance to finish the pic pack while you guys give me any feedback on the data. I'll finish the pic pack sometime next week, implement any data changes and release the full version.
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