[RELEASE] 1996 Alternate History - Wrestling At War

[jesseewiak]

So, a couple of things I noticed playing WSW -

 

1.) Candido is a babyface, but a member of the Impact Players and in a feud w/ a heel Taz

 

2.) The bio of Konnan makes it sound like he won the NA Title in December, then vacated it, but Scott Steiner shows as NA Title holder IG, and there's nothing in his bio.

[RobinS]

Hi. Just start to try your mode and i noticed there's two Komina Wanalaya. One under the name Komina and the other under her full names.

I'll edit this message if i see any other things.

[OGpistolpete]

Man I'm really liking this. I can't wait for the data to get released. Sting vs Taker feud for the NWA title? Count me in.

 

Thanks! A link to the updated data is below and on the first post!

 

I think it would make a certain amount of sense. Aside from everybody being a year or two older there wouldn't really be a downside to it. I guess for you, having to rework title lineages maybe (if those are done - i haven't DLed and checked out yet), but other than that it's pretty easy to just shift dates - I can't imagine anyone is going to say "WELL WHAT WAS IMAGINARY NEIDHART DOING IN 1997?!?!"

 

Thank you for speaking up to this point... Thankfully US title lineages are not all complete yet so the in-game fixing wouldn't be the issue, need to lay them all out on spreadsheets first. Biggest portion of work would honestly be in the biographies. 99% of workers in the big promotions have custom biographies with specific information, so going back and adjusting those would take awhile.

 

So, a couple of things I noticed playing WSW -

 

1.) Candido is a babyface, but a member of the Impact Players and in a feud w/ a heel Taz

 

2.) The bio of Konnan makes it sound like he won the NA Title in December, then vacated it, but Scott Steiner shows as NA Title holder IG, and there's nothing in his bio.

 

1.) Thanks for pointing this out, I have adjusted in the update below and on the first page.

 

2.) I have adjusted this thank you.

 

*****

 

HERE IS THE LATEST PATCH: VERSION 1.1

Patch Notes:

1. Fixed face / heel divides where there were errors
   
2. Fixed some workers being tagged as road agents when they should not have been
   
3. Fixed some biographies where the canon did not align
   
4. Fixed starting storyline heat to better align with expected show performance
   
5. Added attributes to America's top stars in all of the big 4
   

[OGpistolpete]

Hi. Just start to try your mode and i noticed there's two Komina Wanalaya. One under the name Komina and the other under her full names.

I'll edit this message if i see any other things.

 

Thanks RobinS, this should be fixed in the updated shared above!

[PFElton]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="OGpistolpete" data-cite="OGpistolpete" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="52279" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Thank you for speaking up to this point... Thankfully US title lineages are not all complete yet so the in-game fixing wouldn't be the issue, need to lay them all out on spreadsheets first. Biggest portion of work would honestly be in the biographies. 99% of workers in the big promotions have custom biographies with specific information, so going back and adjusting those would take awhile.<p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Dude I'll do it for you if you want me to. All of the big US promotions. It's literally just changing some dates from 1994-1995 to 1996-1997.</p>

[OGpistolpete]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="PFElton" data-cite="PFElton" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="52279" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Dude I'll do it for you if you want me to. All of the big US promotions. It's literally just changing some dates from 1994-1995 to 1996-1997.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Sure if you'd like to send me the dataset with it complete I'd be happy to look it over.</p><p> </p><p> Here is a preview of some WSW mag clips</p><p> </p><p> <img alt="MqdVFVQ.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/MqdVFVQ.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> <img alt="0jTQDxb.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/0jTQDxb.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> <img alt="rnG64dP.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/rnG64dP.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[PFElton]

Sure if you'd like to send me the dataset with it complete I'd be happy to look it over.

 

I don't mean this rudely, but either you want me to do it or you don't. I don't want to put the time in to something you can easily visualize now, just for you to say "nah I've already made these magazine graphs so thanks anyway!"

[MainOffender]

I don't mean this rudely, but either you want me to do it or you don't. I don't want to put the time in to something you can easily visualize now, just for you to say "nah I've already made these magazine graphs so thanks anyway!"

 

Dude, he has been trying to politely tell you he doesn't want to do this since you first brought it up. Shifting a database up three years is not as simple as just changing some dates. You also have to adjust worker skills, add debuting workers, etc etc. Change it in your own game if it bothers you so much.

[PFElton]

Dude, he has been trying to politely tell you he doesn't want to do this since you first brought it up. Shifting a database up three years is not as simple as just changing some dates. You also have to adjust worker skills, add debuting workers, etc etc. Change it in your own game if it bothers you so much.

 

Then he should say so instead of humoring the topic with two different people.

[OGpistolpete]

I'm just going to keep it how it is, thanks

[PFElton]

I'm just going to keep it how it is, thanks

 

Got it.

[Munit]

Dude, you've got to be kidding me with how amazing this mod is. I just started playing an hour ago as the WWF and ive fallen in love. Austin vs. McMahon at Mania, Los Guererros, Main Event Goldust, Freaking Bill Goldberg doing the undefeated streak in the WWF, all the ECW talent, and..... the Sandman holding a belt? Seriously having a blast. I love alt things like this and this just too good. Im finding myself lost reading all the bios in between the booking as well. I just like the spot the WWF is at. You would think they would be doing way worse with everything that happened and how the talent is spread, but they still have an amazing roster from top to bottom. This will probably be my first long save in awhile. Do you have plans to add more workers? (apologies if asked already.)

 

 

EDIT: Noticed Sting and others dont have title history. Also the title histories just show the person's name without the (1) or (2) for multiple reigns (Sting for example)

[OGpistolpete]

Dude, you've got to be kidding me with how amazing this mod is. I just started playing an hour ago as the WWF and ive fallen in love. Austin vs. McMahon at Mania, Los Guererros, Main Event Goldust, Freaking Bill Goldberg doing the undefeated streak in the WWF, all the ECW talent, and..... the Sandman holding a belt? Seriously having a blast. I love alt things like this and this just too good. Im finding myself lost reading all the bios in between the booking as well. I just like the spot the WWF is at. You would think they would be doing way worse with everything that happened and how the talent is spread, but they still have an amazing roster from top to bottom. This will probably be my first long save in awhile. Do you have plans to add more workers? (apologies if asked already.)

 

 

EDIT: Noticed Sting and others dont have title history. Also the title histories just show the person's name without the (1) or (2) for multiple reigns (Sting for example)

 

It’s exciting to get this sort of positive feedback, thanks a lot Munit! This mod is years in the making from the original EWR version to converting to TEW, so I hope it feels as deep as working on and off on something like this should be! The WWF roster was particularly fun to assemble, because none of it I feel is out of the realm of what I feel would be possible in this universe. Everybody knows ECW had some incredible talent, and I think it’s only natural a completely decimated WWF would completely rebrand and try to appeal to a younger audience with edgy content in 1996. Then you’ve got a lot of historical mercenaries and odd-guys out like Foley and Austin, Sandman and Vader, Bam Bam and Goldust (speaking of which, please watch

from his debut... they are how his character should be approached, very avante garde.) Then you’ve got super raw talent on the undercard and the mind of Heyman, really only up from there...

 

If you’re looking for more workers at the start of the game, likely not. I’ve already rushed some debuts for talent just to squeak out the talent available today. I do want to add more future talent, to a point where I can begin creating more years down the line to create different historical points in the universe. But that will probably require a lot of time I don’t have so if I were to do something I’d love to put together a 2020 update to this alt universe.

 

Title histories for the big American companies...will be coming in the next update. Should be able to import them I suppose?

 

Thanks again, would love to see a diary of your game sometime!

[Munit]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="OGpistolpete" data-cite="OGpistolpete" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="52279" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It’s exciting to get this sort of positive feedback, thanks a lot Munit! This mod is years in the making from the original EWR version to converting to TEW, so I hope it feels as deep as working on and off on something like this should be! The WWF roster was particularly fun to assemble, because none of it I feel is out of the realm of what I feel would be possible in this universe. Everybody knows ECW had some incredible talent, and I think it’s only natural a completely decimated WWF would completely rebrand and try to appeal to a younger audience with edgy content in 1996. Then you’ve got a lot of historical mercenaries and odd-guys out like Foley and Austin, Sandman and Vader, Bam Bam and Goldust (speaking of which, please watch <div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="150" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/YYJNU36Q3hs?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Goldust Pre-Debut Vignette #1 (1995)"></iframe></div></div> <div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="150" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/TtM3IQkdvWE?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Goldust Pre-Debut Vignette #2 (1995)"></iframe></div></div> from his debut... they are how his character should be approached, very avante garde.) Then you’ve got super raw talent on the undercard and the mind of Heyman, really only up from there...<p> </p><p> If you’re looking for more workers at the start of the game, likely not. I’ve already rushed some debuts for talent just to squeak out the talent available today. I do want to add more future talent, to a point where I can begin creating more years down the line to create different historical points in the universe. But that will probably require a lot of time I don’t have so if I were to do something I’d love to put together a 2020 update to this alt universe.</p><p> </p><p> Title histories for the big American companies...will be coming in the next update. Should be able to import them I suppose?</p><p> </p><p> Thanks again, would love to see a diary of your game sometime!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I meant more in terms of people debuting a few years down the line like Aj Styles, Lio Rush, Jay Lethal, etc. It looks like you've gotten most of the core group of people who debut but just the more recent wrestlers (younger ones) we see today that are missing. Great to hear tho. Importing sounds fine. I was just so confused and thought The Sandman was the Inaugural IC champ, same with Austin as WWF champ until I read the bios haha. On the Diary note, not going to lie I honestly would love to do one with the WWF just based on all the fun ideas I have with them. Def a possibility once we get a more updated data down the line <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />. Thanks again for all your hard work, im defiantly enjoying this.</p>

[OGpistolpete]

I meant more in terms of people debuting a few years down the line like Aj Styles, Lio Rush, Jay Lethal, etc. It looks like you've gotten most of the core group of people who debut but just the more recent wrestlers (younger ones) we see today that are missing. Great to hear tho. Importing sounds fine. I was just so confused and thought The Sandman was the Inaugural IC champ, same with Austin as WWF champ until I read the bios haha. On the Diary note, not going to lie I honestly would love to do one with the WWF just based on all the fun ideas I have with them. Def a possibility once we get a more updated data down the line . Thanks again for all your hard work, im defiantly enjoying this.

 

Yes, workers years in the future are going to be a focus in the next update as well.

 

Here is some more magazine features for those interested in more of the lore.

 

 

 

[Brighamjessen]

Loving this mod so far, just wondering if there's any chance we could get the belt templates (Like the backgrounds)? I know it may not be a priority to some people but I would love to add some championships to the companies.

[OGpistolpete]

Loving this mod so far, just wondering if there's any chance we could get the belt templates (Like the backgrounds)? I know it may not be a priority to some people but I would love to add some championships to the companies.

 

To be honest, Mammoth made the belts so I don't have them. Is there a specific company you're looking for? They should be very easy to replicate in Photoshop or any other photo editting software with a simple gradiant tool.

[Mattywood]

Can't wait for your next update to fill in some of the title histories. I haven't had a chance to look at the actual data itself, but I'm looking forward to it after reading the PWI-style magazine articles!

[RobinS]

Hi ! Should'nt Chavo Guerrero JR. set to be face in the WWF ? As he is in a starting feud with Eddie against The Duleyz ?

Thank for you job, i love the mod. Hope you'll add some female wrestlers in the futur.

[OGpistolpete]

Hi ! Should'nt Chavo Guerrero JR. set to be face in the WWF ? As he is in a starting feud with Eddie against The Duleyz ?

Thank for you job, i love the mod. Hope you'll add some female wrestlers in the futur.

 

I've adjusted this. Thanks for the correction. Glad to hear you are enjoying.

[RobinS]

Other thing I noticed, Terri Runnels & Dustin Rhodes aren't set up as married, but it said they are in their bios.

 

I'll edit this message if i found other things.

[Munit]

Love reading those tidbits you post about the lore. Interesting to see where owen could end going? Also super excited for the next update, whenever that may be.

[OGpistolpete]

Still working on title histories, should have them finished soon. Will release an update once that is complete.

 

In the meantime, some highlights for Hollywood Championship Wrestling.

 

 

 

 

[tucking fypo]

Folks, the original backstory of many of the promotions in this mod is in the 2016 mod forum. It really is one of the most creative and fascinating I've ever read and found myself more interested in reading the story instead of playing the mod. This mod ranks up there with the Death of the Territories and War of the Immortals mods of the past.

 

Wrestling at War from 2016

[Munit]

Folks, the original backstory of many of the promotions in this mod is in the 2016 mod forum. It really is one of the most creative and fascinating I've ever read and found myself more interested in reading the story instead of playing the mod. This mod ranks up there with the Death of the Territories and War of the Immortals mods of the past.

 

Wrestling at War from 2016

 

Wow thanks for that. Having a blast reading through everything! Really great backstories and lore here. Really enjoying reading everyone's backstory Pete. Can't wait for the update, gonna hold off on a save until that time. Man this mod is super underrated