The TCW Thread

[Shifty425]

1 hour ago, MiykaelP said:

I decided that the trust fund kid Jerome Courtney is Wolf Hawkins biggest fan.  So much so that he formed a wish.com Syndicate with the former members The Elite and Chris Flynn. Jerome is delusional and in his mind he thinks that he is the biggest star in wrestling. I haven't thought of a name yet, anyone have any suggestions ? 

I feel like he would call them his Wolfpack.

[Crym]

Something I've been thinking now is, what purpose does King of Kings serve? Back in 2020, we thought it'd give you a championship opportunity at Total Mayhem. That's not the case though, as Wolf was King of Kings champion but it was Jay who beat Aaron at Total Mayhem 2020. It doesn't give you an immediate title shot too, as Greg won King of Kings 2020 but it was Sammy Bach who defeated Jay at Psycho Circus the next month. Thinking about my options here and how to book it, as I'm looking to launch a TCW diary

[Lo-Drew]

I'm going to have Courtney be the usual partner for Chord, but not to spin that off to a bif push. He's never clicked with me but on this save, I'll try to see if he can become  useful 4th tier guy. In storyline, Chord is an asshole so no one likes him. Vita, seeing this as an opportunity, suggest to Courtney that he should offer to team with Chord when needed. Chord sees him as nothing but a body to throw. Courtney sees him as a stepping stone to the top.

 

I like pairing my top stars with an occasional partner. Helps persrving singles matches on TV by having the top guys in tags and it gives them a pin eater.

[Lo-Drew]

31 minutes ago, Crym said:

Something I've been thinking now is, what purpose does King of Kings serve? Back in 2020, we thought it'd give you a championship opportunity at Total Mayhem. That's not the case though, as Wolf was King of Kings champion but it was Jay who beat Aaron at Total Mayhem 2020. It doesn't give you an immediate title shot too, as Greg won King of Kings 2020 but it was Sammy Bach who defeated Jay at Psycho Circus the next month. Thinking about my options here and how to book it, as I'm looking to launch a TCW diary

I noticed that, too. Not a fan of it. I like the idea of the winning having a guaranteed main event challenge on the biggest show. And it's six months after so I get a full half a year to build the challenger. So I'm just going to keep booking it that way.

[MiykaelP]

2 hours ago, Crym said:

Something I've been thinking now is, what purpose does King of Kings serve? Back in 2020, we thought it'd give you a championship opportunity at Total Mayhem. That's not the case though, as Wolf was King of Kings champion but it was Jay who beat Aaron at Total Mayhem 2020. It doesn't give you an immediate title shot too, as Greg won King of Kings 2020 but it was Sammy Bach who defeated Jay at Psycho Circus the next month. Thinking about my options here and how to book it, as I'm looking to launch a TCW diary

Wolf must of lost the new King of Kings briefcase to Jay somehow I guess...  

I am thinking of eventually moving King of Kings closer to Total Mayhem, the 6 month period is pretty long gap for a guaranteed title shot.  I might make it a 16 man tourney and have the 1st round on TV to qualify for the PPV.  

[Crym]

4 minutes ago, MiykaelP said:

Wolf must of lost the new King of Kings briefcase to Jay somehow I guess...  

I am thinking of eventually moving King of Kings closer to Total Mayhem, the 6 month period is pretty long gap for a guaranteed title shot.  I might make it a 16 man tourney and have the 1st round on TV to qualify for the PPV.  

I actually do have an idea on how to solve the Total Mayhem challenger, which is quite obvious if you look at the database

[repalec]

4 hours ago, Crym said:

Something I've been thinking now is, what purpose does King of Kings serve? Back in 2020, we thought it'd give you a championship opportunity at Total Mayhem. That's not the case though, as Wolf was King of Kings champion but it was Jay who beat Aaron at Total Mayhem 2020. It doesn't give you an immediate title shot too, as Greg won King of Kings 2020 but it was Sammy Bach who defeated Jay at Psycho Circus the next month. Thinking about my options here and how to book it, as I'm looking to launch a TCW diary

It seems like the intent was like how King of the Ring was for much of its existence - winning it didn't earn you a direct title shot, but winning it was a show that the company had big plans for you. It just says '[the winner] goes on to be a big part of the next year's Total Mayhem', which fits with how old-school KOTR used to go.

Steve Austin won it in 1996, and at the next year's WrestleMania, he went on to have the iconic Submission match against Bret Hart. Triple H won it in 1997, and both won the European title and accompanied Shawn Michaels to the ring in the main event at Mania XIV. Bret won it in 1991 (the next year he would score a rare pinfall victory over Roddy Piper in an IC title match at WrestleMania VIII and beat Ric Flair late in the year for the WWF title) and in 1993 (he would go on to co-win the 1994 Royal Rumble and pin Yokozuna for the title at Mania X).

The way I personally used it in my longest-running TCW save was akin to Money in the Bank - winning the tournament gave you a title shot within the next 12 months, cashed in at your choice. 

[MiykaelP]

2 hours ago, Crym said:

I actually do have an idea on how to solve the Total Mayhem challenger, which is quite obvious if you look at the database

what is your idea ?  I haven't really looked deeply at the database yet. 

[MiykaelP]

33 minutes ago, repalec said:

It seems like the intent was like how King of the Ring was for much of its existence - winning it didn't earn you a direct title shot, but winning it was a show that the company had big plans for you. It just says '[the winner] goes on to be a big part of the next year's Total Mayhem', which fits with how old-school KOTR used to go.

Steve Austin won it in 1996, and at the next year's WrestleMania, he went on to have the iconic Submission match against Bret Hart. Triple H won it in 1997, and both won the European title and accompanied Shawn Michaels to the ring in the main event at Mania XIV. Bret won it in 1991 (the next year he would score a rare pinfall victory over Roddy Piper in an IC title match at WrestleMania VIII and beat Ric Flair late in the year for the WWF title) and in 1993 (he would go on to co-win the 1994 Royal Rumble and pin Yokozuna for the title at Mania X).

The way I personally used it in my longest-running TCW save was akin to Money in the Bank - winning the tournament gave you a title shot within the next 12 months, cashed in at your choice. 

This makes sense, reading the explanation again it does seem to mean the company just plans to give the wrestler a push leading to an eventual title shot. 

[Shooltra]

7 hours ago, Crym said:

Something I've been thinking now is, what purpose does King of Kings serve? Back in 2020, we thought it'd give you a championship opportunity at Total Mayhem. That's not the case though, as Wolf was King of Kings champion but it was Jay who beat Aaron at Total Mayhem 2020. It doesn't give you an immediate title shot too, as Greg won King of Kings 2020 but it was Sammy Bach who defeated Jay at Psycho Circus the next month. Thinking about my options here and how to book it, as I'm looking to launch a TCW diary

My view on it is that it came to life when TCW was frustrated due to how many titles failed and went to the drawing board for how to have a good title that fans will accept this time around. 

The result is King of Kings, a tournament instead of a title so it can't be booked badly and to ensure the prestige of it, the winner gets booked in one of the Main-Events of Total Mayhem so fans always think the tournament matters. 

[Lier]

I'm still shocked that no major star left. I knew Andrews and Hawkins were locked in for the long term, T-Bone and Mo had yet to hit their stride, but either Chord, Gauge, or Bach I thought surely was going to leave for USPW for some big money deal because something something wasn't given the world title.

[Shooltra]

TCW looks like it is in an interesting spot for me. That's just my interpretation but looking at the main menu, I kinda see them in that downward slope. They are going to move their main show for the first time in their history ( If I recall ) due to SWF winning, Sammy Bach finally won the belt but I could see it as a stunt to gather interest and strapping the rocket to T-Bone seems like the company is desperate to find the star that will finally bring them to the next level. Not to mention a big influx of talents as well as straight up cancelling The Sinner's Society or changing up The Syndicate to focus on new talents. Vita's bio also sounds like TCW is trying to get Jeremie Courtney over and I gotta say I do not see money in him.

I think it's definitely possible to play it as before but I think that 2020 had TCW really enjoyable because they had all of the top talents and it was really easy to have great angles, this year could ask of me a different mindset and take them in as a losing company who is desperate to find that one thing that will make them relevant and they still don't have a figurehead meaning that although Aaron did the job, they still haven't found their new Rocky Golden. 

[Bad Collin]

TCW is really interesting this time around. You have four top tier stars to feud over the strap and up and comers like Remus, Speed, Queen and Blaze to start to take over from the older guys in the mid card. 

I have to admit that I have resorted to cliche during the demo and have signed Youngman, Wolfsbaine and DWN to come in and get an immediate push. I also brought back RDJ to manage them. The plan will be to have RDJ turn up to shockingly help Chord beat Gauge at Malice in Wonderland and have Chord run with the belt until Total Mayhem where he faces Andrews.  

[codey_v3]

17 hours ago, Bad Collin said:

TCW is really interesting this time around. You have four top tier stars to feud over the strap and up and comers like Remus, Speed, Queen and Blaze to start to take over from the older guys in the mid card. 

I have to admit that I have resorted to cliche during the demo and have signed Youngman, Wolfsbaine and DWN to come in and get an immediate push. I also brought back RDJ to manage them. The plan will be to have RDJ turn up to shockingly help Chord beat Gauge at Malice in Wonderland and have Chord run with the belt until Total Mayhem where he faces Andrews.  

I also signed young man and wolfsbaine and gave them a big push. Young man is a loud mouthed solo star, while Wolfsbaine is the #2 in freshly turned heel and new champion Greg gauges stable with the behemoths.

TCW looks dire when you just think of the midcard, but the top of the card is stacked with talent and there’s a bunch of low card talent and guys you can bring in to fill in the midcard. The aging, injured midcard is really useful for getting heels over. Tana, Troy, Bart and guys like Divine Fortune don’t have much use anymore they’re so beat up, so job them out. Troy is so done that he didn’t complain when I jobbed him to Youngman, who was in the low 30s in pop compared to Troy’s mid-50s. I figure I’ll job him down the card and ask him to become a manager and see if I can bring a new band in for him to manage.

[Bad Collin]

1 minute ago, codey_v3 said:

I also signed young man and wolfsbaine and gave them a big push. Young man is a loud mouthed solo star, while Wolfsbaine is the #2 in freshly turned heel and new champion Greg gauges stable with the behemoths.

TCW looks dire when you just think of the midcard, but the top of the card is stacked with talent and there’s a bunch of low card talent and guys you can bring in to fill in the midcard. The aging, injured midcard is really useful for getting heels over. Tana, Troy, Bart and guys like Divine Fortune don’t have much use anymore they’re so beat up, so job them out. Troy is so done that he didn’t complain when I jobbed him to Youngman, who was in the low 30s in pop compared to Troy’s mid-50s. I figure I’ll job him down the card and ask him to become a manager and see if I can bring a new band in for him to manage.

That's the fun of it I think, jobbing out the midcard to bring through the next gen who are going to take on SWF and USPW. Hawkins is in time decline in my save so the big four will soon be a big three too. 

I added a B show because one show a week isn't enough to use everyone. 

[codey_v3]

...If I was thinking ahead I would have started a B-show in January to stretch out this save. I'm almost through March and want to keep it going but don't want to wait until Saturday!

[Bad Collin]

I'm still on 11th Jan because I take so long to come up with angles (also because I raced through the start of an RTG).

[codey_v3]

But yeah, my biggest thing was finding stars for the future since the roster is so old. You can still push talented guys like Peverell, but they're already going to ask for reduced schedules with their next contract. I picked Amazing Fire Fly and Papa Swoll as my future faces, and I grabbed Youngman and Wolfsbaine to be my next big heels. The biggest thing was hiring guys in their 20s I knew could go now. Swoll needs a little bit of development, but he's got all the tools to be a massive face. 

[Bad Collin]

Loading up MAW with young guys is probably a good move too, the companies income seems good so the roster can be easily expanded.

[codey_v3]

How are yall using Josh Taylor? His bio mentions that he's a bland guy overall, but I've turned him into one of my go-to wild brawl guys and it's made me think of him as a loose cannon type of guy. I just got him out of a two-month feud with Aaron Andrews that didn't see him gain much popularity but was actually really fun to book the wild backstage brawls, both guys getting banned from arenas, trash talking videos sent from home while they were banned, and I topped it off with Taylor Pillmanizing Andrews two weeks before their big blow off match that Andrews eventually won. 

After that feud ended I had him cut a promo from home where he explained that he's as violent as he is because he has to put food in his families' mouths, and the next week I had him march out after one of Dave Diamond's matches, show a little respect and then started a brawl. It's a lowcard version of his last feud, but I can give him the win here and then maybe give him the tv title next.

[Shooltra]

What I did with him in the last installment was build him as a false " Submission Specialist ". What it means is that he had the Butterfly Lock as his finish but he wasn't winning with that move because he is this super talented technician. Rather, he is such an aggressive brawler, he will beat up your arms so much that when he locks in his move, you have no choice but to tap or pass out because you were worked on so heavily and he would act as if he was outwrestling everyone when in reality, this had nothing to do with it and I thought it built hatred towards him, he would act as if he could outwrestle all of the babyfaces in a fair competition when that didn't happen. His other big thing was that he only lock in his move if he sees the opponent is really beat up so everytime he lost, he would argue " I only lost because I didn't get to lock in my move so can I really be called the loser when everyone knows he could never outwrestle my Butterfly Lock? "

[The Superman 3 of People]

23 minutes ago, codey_v3 said:

How are yall using Josh Taylor? His bio mentions that he's a bland guy overall, but I've turned him into one of my go-to wild brawl guys and it's made me think of him as a loose cannon type of guy. I just got him out of a two-month feud with Aaron Andrews that didn't see him gain much popularity but was actually really fun to book the wild backstage brawls, both guys getting banned from arenas, trash talking videos sent from home while they were banned, and I topped it off with Taylor Pillmanizing Andrews two weeks before their big blow off match that Andrews eventually won. 

After that feud ended I had him cut a promo from home where he explained that he's as violent as he is because he has to put food in his families' mouths, and the next week I had him march out after one of Dave Diamond's matches, show a little respect and then started a brawl. It's a lowcard version of his last feud, but I can give him the win here and then maybe give him the tv title next.

I liked to put Taylor in a stable, Big In Japan, with a couple of puro guys and occasionally Greg Gauge. He'd spend a little bit of time in the midcard winning some pay-per-view six-man tags before eventually moving back up to the main event with a set of newly established interference runners.

[AidanLFC1]

26 minutes ago, codey_v3 said:

How are yall using Josh Taylor? His bio mentions that he's a bland guy overall, but I've turned him into one of my go-to wild brawl guys and it's made me think of him as a loose cannon type of guy. I just got him out of a two-month feud with Aaron Andrews that didn't see him gain much popularity but was actually really fun to book the wild backstage brawls, both guys getting banned from arenas, trash talking videos sent from home while they were banned, and I topped it off with Taylor Pillmanizing Andrews two weeks before their big blow off match that Andrews eventually won. 

After that feud ended I had him cut a promo from home where he explained that he's as violent as he is because he has to put food in his families' mouths, and the next week I had him march out after one of Dave Diamond's matches, show a little respect and then started a brawl. It's a lowcard version of his last feud, but I can give him the win here and then maybe give him the tv title next.

I’ve signed Findlay O’Farraday to come in as a partner for him with the view of them both being brawlers just looking for a fight. In my headcanon, Findlay and Josh met while Findlay was back visiting the US from Japan, bonded over their appreciation for Japanese wrestling and Taylor convinced Farraday to come and work some dates for TCW, while allowing him to continue to live and work in Japan, with the pair agreeing to tag as the team ‘Dragon’s Bite’. 
 

This gives Josh something to do as well as pairing him with someone with marginally better entertainment skills to act as a bit of a talker for him, as well as bringing in some fresh meat to the roster, with the potential of Findlay becoming a good upper midcarder in his own right when they eventually split, allowing Josh to move into a more sympathetic babyface role in the future. 

[JrSquared]

Some lower midcard ideas I had are for Earl Chevalier has a rich snob gimmick in Oceanic region and isnt great nor terrible. I feel like pairing him up with Jeremie Courtney could be fun team to book with. Eventually having it revealed one last everything and is poor making for an underdog babyface type story. Rock City Stars & Mosher are always booked as a band in my head on indys pairing them with Troy Tornado makes him useful beyond his 65 popularity. Jaylon Martin picture reminds me of Marlo from The Wire so I feel taking character in that kinda direction could be cool. 

 

Question: Is Masked Mauler VII the first masked wrestler in TCW? I feel like in 2013, 2016, and 2020 nobody on roster had a mask. 

Edited July 30 by JrSquared

[christmas_ape]

11 minutes ago, JrSquared said:

Two lower midcard ideas I had are for Earl Chevalier has a rich snob gimmick in Oceanic region and isnt great nor terrible. I feel like pairing him up with Jeremie Courtney could be fun team to book with. Eventually having it revealed one last everything and is poor making for an underdog babyface type story. Rock City Stars & Mosher are always booked as a band in my head on indys pairing them with Troy Tornado makes him useful beyond his 65 popularity. 

 

Question: Is Masked Mauler VII the first masked wrestler in TCW? I feel like in 2013, 2016, and 2020 nobody on roster had a mask. 

At thought I thought Koshiro Ino but I believe that's face paint not a mask. Same with the demons of rage and new wave. So maybe you're right? Pretty interesting.