Hurrikane Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I was curious as to why I can never seem to get to the negotiation point with any wrestler in a rival promotion. I'm playing the Wars End Mod with WCW and obviously I'm at war with the WWF. Anytime one of their workers contract comes up for renewal they won't negotiate because of the 'war' between the two companies, which is unrealistic imo. Workers would surely, as they did in real life plenty of times during the Monday night wars, negotiate with the rival promotion to see what type of money and/or push was being offered. I don't see the point in having the 'at war' feature if you can't steal workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still71 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 true. I've had the same issue. It's understandable if the worker is loyal to the promotion, but it seems like it's every worker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonedSuperman Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Because WWF is probably bigger and/or more prestigious then your company. If they leave to join you they won't be able to go back to the WWF for a while, so why would they want to leave a bigger promotion for a smaller one? It happens once in a while in the real world like a few guys going to TNA but it doesn't happen all the time. Especially not in the War's End era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still71 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 In Wars End WCW starts out as the bigger promotion, so your excuse is not valid for his scenario. Even in mine, I used the editor and made WWF as big as it could get and lowered the popularity of WCW and still was impossible to sign WCW talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldenskillz Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 No probs with me, i turned loyalty off since it was way out of hand and ive Signed Rey Mysterio and countless others from WCW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Lyrium Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 If loyalty was turned on in the USA, I'm not surprised it got out of hand ¬_¬ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sartagis Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 [QUOTE=Goldenskillz;200070]No probs with me, i turned loyalty off since it was way out of hand and ive Signed Rey Mysterio and countless others from WCW.[/QUOTE] Yeah if you look at the data you'll notice the majority of big stars have Loyalty set to WCW. Which is what is making it impossible to sign them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 The big thing is, while for the most part Loyalty isn't seen in the United States, it [i]does[/i] happen on occasion. I wish it were possible to code the reality into the game through making Loyalty possible but rare if Loyalty isn't turned on in an area, but I fear that would be impossible. Some workers who have loyalty: Sting (to NWA/WCW) Bryan Danielson (to ROH) The Undertaker (to WWE) Tommy Dreamer (to ECW) Those are the only ones I can think of, but they are absolutely valid examples. I have no idea why anyone other than these four would have Loyalty set in any mod, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still71 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 your forgot Norman Smiley (TNA) - that guy would have been World Heavyweight Champion by now if he'd just accept all those multimillion dollar offers WWE has been sending him. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonedSuperman Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 How is Bryan Danielson loyal to ROH when he "quit" the business becasue the WWE wouldn't offer him a contract not that long ago? If the WWE would give him a roster he would go there in a flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Spamer Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 [QUOTE=still71;199998]In Wars End WCW starts out as the bigger promotion, so your excuse is not valid for his scenario. Even in mine, I used the editor and made WWF as big as it could get and lowered the popularity of WCW and still was impossible to sign WCW talent.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty positive that WCW starts out lower than WWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still71 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 my bad. you're right. I was thinking of the Montreal Aftermath mod, which is where that crap happened to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 [QUOTE=PoisonedSuperman;200208]How is Bryan Danielson loyal to ROH when he "quit" the business becasue the WWE wouldn't offer him a contract not that long ago? If the WWE would give him a roster he would go there in a flash.[/QUOTE] Maybe several years ago, but as of now, he is definitely Loyal to ROH. I doubt he has any interest in WWE these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dross Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 [QUOTE=PoisonedSuperman;200208]How is Bryan Danielson loyal to ROH when he "quit" the business becasue the WWE wouldn't offer him a contract not that long ago? If the WWE would give him a roster he would go there in a flash.[/QUOTE] that was a work or better put, Danielson needed a break anyway, the E had nothing to do with that decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfit103 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Is there any way to turn loyalty off mid-game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravisL Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 No misfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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