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oh come on now. they have tried, for years, 10 to be exact to push shelton to anything above UMC.
I must have missed the part where Shelton was in WWE in 2000...
At some point, it comes down to a guy not having the "it" factor to main event. Shelton has never connected with the crowd. that's half the job.If he hadn't busted his wrist after beating Triple H twice in a row in 2004, he would have been on a rocketship to the moon. They just never managed to repeat that Lightning in a Bottle with him.
It's kinda funny - a lot of the guys released this year are mainstays in my RW TEW games - Haas, Benjamin, Burchill, Helms, James...
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I still believe the body image thing doesn't have much of a place in wrestling. If guys want to be old and rich, do we all look up to Vince McMahon and Donald Trump? Here's my thing - wrestlers are supposed to be athletes. So I'd like the majority of them (male and female) to be or at least be able to pass for athletes. You can have your sticks with balloons scattered about (not my thing, but as people say - it appeals to a key demographic), but ideally unless they can really put on a match they should stick to being managers or other on-screen non wrestling personalities.
BTW, making my way through Lockdown - started with the Angle/Anderson match. I liked it, though both instances of blood seemed early and not really important. Also, Angle gave Anderson TWO backdrops that looked pretty much exactly like the one Anderson gave Orton to get himself fired. Good lord the Moonsault was as good as everybody said! I really liked the story of the match (though still cringe every time Tenay says "warrior medal"). Stepping over Anderson to get out of the cage was great, as was the dick-stomp to make a point.
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First, "divas" don't tend to have body types that mirror the majority of the female audience so you wind up just supporting the traditional body image problem.
Yeah, whereas male wrestlers are perfectly representative of your average joe. Excuse me while I go grate some cheese on my abs...
Seriously though, I've never understood why it's such a big deal to have "realistic rolemodels" for women but not for men. Especially when we're talking about Entertainment. Who's the more appealing character in Zombieland - Woody Harrelson or the scrawny kid? Who would we rather be - Arnie or DeVito? Trish and Lita didn't have bodies mirroring the general populace, but do we seriously think no girls ever looked up to them as strong women they can aspire to be like in some way?
Not a dig on you Remi, just that whole societal pressure being applied where IMO it really doesn't belong.
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Hmm... I'm not sure I can jump on that bus. I get the gimmick, and see why it works.. but, best heels in the business? Which business? Accounting? Cause, I may agree there.
Come on... Inland Revenue are easily the best heels in the Accounting business!
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How long have the RAW ring ropes been white? Only noticed last week. Definately seems strange given the red and black colour scheme of the show.
I haven't seen Raw in a while, but wasn't last week a Supershow in London? They'll often change to a non-show specific coloured rope set for those.
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I'm definitely going to watch Lockdown. If Angle/Anderson is as good as everyone's saying, it'll be worth it just for that.
By the way, about the idea of "no one will remember what happened four months ago"... TNA has been LOSING viewers, not gaining a bunch of new ones who weren't watching before. Chances are almost everyone's going to remember!
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I doubt it, as the live nature of Raw doesn't really gel with Undertaker's entrance.
Huh? I don't get that at all. Last time I checked, Undertaker has appeared on hundreds of Live events and Raws (before split), and been fine with his entrance. I'm really not sure what you're getting at.
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Ok Lemme see...
Deadpool's humour was legitimately based on Ryan Reynolds and that got mad over.
Flair's "wooh" was taken/stolen from Jerry Lee Lewis
Hart's "Best there ever" was taken/stolen the 1982 film "The Natural"
John Morrison would very much like to Jim Morrison from The Doors
Rob Van Dam started out just trying to be, shock and horror, Jean Claude Van Damme.
Matt Hardy has said he'd love to do "The Punisher" as a gimmick but isn't allowed.
Razor Ramon WAS Tony Montana from the film "Scarface"
But I suppose the most obvious is Sting IS the Crow, from the film, The Crow. It's the exact same character, taken from one medium to another.
Look, if you get a character from whatever is hot at the moment, go for it. Make Money Brothers. Gaga is money, so OJ is going to cash in.
So now going to the opposite end of the inapt comparisons... Guess what link all of those examples are missing? The Gender switch you were trying to justify in the first place!
Yes, wrestlers take characters from pop culture. Yes there have been female versions of males *within the same genre*. Making a male version of a female from an entirely separate world doesn't equal success, or history, or logic.
Look, here's what it is for me:The Gaga thing makes OJ different. It's gives him a character who has different motives to other characters in TNA. His character will do things different to others.
And so far his motives seem to not involve wrestling. He just wants to sit down with some friends on a couch he set up with a fake wall in the audience. Or bring Mardi Grad and a money shot to the ramp. What exactly are these amazing motives he's supposed to have, in a wrestling context? He wants to win the Global Championship so he can have more sex with both genders?! I just don't see it.
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Again, I have to go back to the Lady Gaga comparison. OJ is TNA's Gaga. And yes, a male version. But trust me, doing an opposite gender version of people often works fine. Lita as the female Hardy Boy, X-23 as the female Wolverine.
Lita = in WWF. Hardy Boyz = in WWF.
X-23 = In X-Men. Wolverine = In X-Men.
Orlando Jordan = In TNA. Lady Gaga = NOWHERE NEAR WRESTLING.
Your examples had direct interaction and co-existed with their counterparts. Until Lady Gaga shows up in TNA and has something, ANYTHING to do with OJ, neither example is anywhere near apt.
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I love Heyman's perspective on the wrestling industry. He knows the foundations of good booking, and he has a hell of an eye for talent.
Also, he is very much like Penn Jillette in appearance and voice. Well maybe mix in a bit of Gilbert Gottfried to the voice
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Remember, Shawn Michaels is Mr Wrestlemania. Now, you look at his record at the event and tell me if that's fitting
JR: "No one has ever out-performed Shawn Michaels in a big match situation". It's not about his record, it's about the match quality. He has more memorable and excellent performances at Mania than anyone.
Keg Carrying Challenge?Didn't they do this on Tough Enough back in the day?
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(of TNA) I'm sure they know what they're doing.
Perfectly hilarious!
Wait... I've never seen nudity on TV.. what channels do you have?! (I'm not counting random ass shots, nor playboy channels)Um, HBO, Showtime... Little shows like The Sopranos, Californication, The L Word, Penn & Teller's Bulls Hit...
I'm not even *in* America and I've seen nudity on American TV.
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Jericho? Big Show?
Or are we not counting pre-Invasion guys?
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You want a true alternative to the WWE? Close the show with the Knockouts Division. If TNA wants to really 'change the course of Pro Wrestling' they need to do so by pushing scenarios that you would NEVER see in the WWE. That means the X-Division, the Knockouts, etc.
I actually liked that the ended the show this way. It's more interesting than another Jeff Hardy run-in attack like they've been closing most shows with. So, all in all, I say: Good job TNA!
They're giving a LEGIT Women's Division the ability to move past just being an undercard belt.
Yeah, WWE would *never* have a Women's match as the Main Event of Raw. We didn't see Trish vs Lita for the Women's Title close out the December 6, 2004 edition of Raw. But then, that was a *match* and not some weird striptease thing...
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Yeah classicly funny. I knew about the Hogan impersonator though.
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Edit: Angle didn't do the pac sign he gave Nash a fist bump as a show of respect for the MEM days and proceeded to ignore Hall and Pac. It was in no way intended as a heel tease.
It absolutely was the Wolfpac sign. Taz played it off as being respect shown since they were in MEM together.
The end of that promo was one of the better things recently. But, I feel like i should care more about Angle v Anderson.. but, I just can't seem to care.I agree wholeheartedly. To round of my last TEW08 game, I had Wrestlemania's Main Event as Kurt Angle vs Mr Kennedy. But this feud has been really poor up until this week. The promos were good, and Anderson's ending was great. "The better man won't win. You're a better father to your kids.... Thank god I'm an a$$hole..... a$$hole". So good!
Interesting idea with the "fight for the key", but um... you *can* go over the top, right?
Also, I feel like TNA's camera crew kinda sucks. While the ME was very clustered from the participants' actions, the camera work really made things more rushed and confusing. Good idea for the match's story, they just didn't quite pull it off.
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That was simply an awesome wrestling show. Booking that made sense, a great segment with Pope, Anderson cut a good promo (seems like maybe he's finally getting his feet under him in TNA), Lethal's hilarious as always...
It wasn't rushed - even the short matches had more time than other short matches I've seen from them, and they concluded nicely. Hell, even Jarrett had a good match that I really enjoyed.
Only bad parts:
*OJ's segment was out of place. If he had cut a promo or done *anything* wrestling related, it might have been okay.
*RVD and Hardy suck at promos. Especially Hardy. "We're gonna have a steel cage MATCH!" Seriously? How long has this guy been a wrestler and watched wrestling, and he can't even put emphasis on the right words?
*Abyss and Jarrett closing the show. That was a throwaway promo that should have happened in the middle of the show.
Oh, by the way - was I the only one *blown away* by how good Hogan's Macho Man impersonation was? I think he's actually better at it than Lethal.
If this had been the 1/4 show instead of the cluster we got, I think TNA's ratings would be in much better shape.
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Bill Simmons is awesome. I wish ESPN would let him back on the Adam Carolla Podcast...
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Theres a storyline here, what was Orlando doing up in Sting's rafters huh? OMG SUDDENLY THE HEEL TURN MAKES SENSE! STINGER'S SWINGING HIS BAT FOR THE OTHER TEAM!
Props. This is the best post I've seen you make
Do you write have a dynasty on the boards? If you put these sorts of connections in place on a larger scale, that's the kind of thing I enjoy reading. -
Haha what was that sign about? Purely random or is there some fishstick connection I am unaware of?
South Park reference. Fishsticks = Fish Dicks.
"Do you like Fishsticks?"
"Yeah"
"You like putting Fishsticks in your mouth?"
"Yeah"
"What are you, a gay fish?"
The episode's plot involved Kanye West being the only person on Earth who didn't get the joke, and thought people were making rumours about him. I don't know whether they signmakers made the connection of Batista doing the Kanye ripoff at the Slammys or not, but either way I thought the sign was very funny!
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Vince fears Dixie sign in the Wrestlemania crowd tonight. That is two ppv's in a row hehe. Look for it when Bret celebrates and goes to the top right corner.
Well I guess if Vince happened to be standing directly under TNA Impact's ratings, he might fear that they're falling so fast they could kill him at any moment...
Other than that, who's the joke on? That guy paid hundreds of dollars to sit and watch Vince's product. No one pays a cent to get in to watch TNA live.
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The Women's wrestling disappointed me. It was just a huge botchy vessel from which the WWE could legitimise Guerrero as a heel wrestler. Was Gail Kim this botchy in TNA? I don't remember her being this botchy.
She was a botch machine on Raw before she went to TNA. That said, I saw it as definitely being her opponent's inability to take the Pull-back Big Boot, but Gail having to throw that low kick twice was kind of embarassing.
Batista and Cena was a good match, if anything it out-performed Edge and Jericho, which didn't have enough speed and energy. Only problem with Cena and Batista is you spent the whole time thinking "S***, somebody is going to have their back broken. This is gonna be brutal...". The way Batista landed was really Over The Top. If Cena makes HHH land on his back when thrown why would the heavier Batista land all the way on his ass?THIS. Someone challenged me on "why is Cena such a bad wrestler?" a week or so ago. Because he's sloppy as all hell. He was messy getting Batista up, and dangerous with how he threw him off. He whiffed his top rope 5KS, and generally just looked rather poor in the ring.
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The blair witch comment was in reference to the aborted Blonde Bitch Project. REMEMBER YOUR HISTORY FOLKS!
You might like to separate two different thoughts into their own sentences next time.
And yeah, the Blond Bitch project was *such* a hot angle
I agree that Pirate Burchill was awesome, but it really is only hearsay that "Vince didn't know what PotC was".
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Vince doesn't know jack about Culture. He didn't even know what the Blair Witch project was, and he fired Kevin Thorne.
If you claim to know what the culture wants you would of jumped on the vampire band wagon you silly scalawag!
Blair Witch Project release date: July 1999
Kevin Thorn character debuted: July 2006
Kevin Thorn's last televised match: December 2007
Kevin Thorn fired: January 2009
I'm not sure I follow your logic. Also, I haven't seen the BWP, but I don't recall it being about Vampires...
The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*
in The Dog Pound
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Smackdown's coming to NZ this year. I said to myself I would love to go... except I couldn't see the following four all surviving the draft:
Edge
Jericho
Morrison
Punk
Looks like I was right. Damn them all to hell!