Jaded

In my watcher game, Krissy Angelle joined new stable The Buccaneers but her only client, Brandon James, didn't, which seems kind of strange. Perhaps managers and clients could join together, or they could break off their association if one joined and the other didn't?

All matches with stars/major stars in are considered important, IIRC.

I don't think many of the wrestlers are likely to have much pop in America, where the show is being held, which probably explains more than any road agent notes do.

I think it’s fairly clear it’s running the shows in the US which is the major issue.

Oh, awesome idea! Have edited in now; thanks for starting it.

Arlie released a trailer yesterday with today as the release date, which to me is confirmation enough.

Not really going to go into detail on B shows as the aim is generally going to be the same - have people with matches at the PPV beat people who don't have matches at the PPV to increase momentum and, sometimes popularity. Notable exception here is that I'm starting off a Joss Thompson/Belle Bryden storyline in which the pair flirt, which is either going to end with Belle turning heel and moving off commentary to become Joss's manager, or Belle turning him down, him getting annoyed, and Belle bringing a face in to feud with him. This is because the old guys storyline flopped badly and I need something with 70 heat - here's hoping! I've also put together Trask and Fedora as the Mayhem Express, riding that positive chemistry. American Gold have excellent chemistry as well as a tag specialist bonus. After a great start with Alicia’s promo, Gloria vs Faith cooled them slightly. Gloria is REALLY bad… Morgan vs Zeus cooled them even more. Again, girls in the crowd are really into Charity. Joss worked the crowd well, improvising to his advantage, as he flirted with Belle Bryden. Joss’s storyline with Belle comes in at exactly 70, just what we need to get rid of the penalty for lack of hot storylines! (Full disclaimer – I screwed up slightly here; I thought I’d replaced her on commentary with The Force but somehow didn’t, meaning the main event counted towards the storyline, which probably saved me as the angle was only 68.)

It fixed the issue with foreign stars who are employed as they want a similar amount to what they're earning in their home country. Hasn't done anything to people only big in one area as they're staggeringly underpaid in the feds they ARE working in so it doesn't make a difference. A later patch at least added travel, but overall there's still a fairly tiny difference between someone with 0 overness everywhere and someone with 40+ in one area.

While both of these ends are great, and I'm really pleased the unknowns are working so cheaply, it's the middle that falls down - the big name indie stars in Tiny or Small federations - like Bradford Peverell in FCW, who's more popular in Puerto Rico than about half a dozen of USPW's roster are, or American Flash in CZCW, who can say the same thing in the South West - ALSO only want $40, which kills the realism for me.

The rosters seem REALLY big this time around, yeah. They're nearly all way over the minimum size requirement.

What are their stats in the mod? Without knowing things like primary stats, psychology, selling, experience, momentum, gimmick ratings etc it's hard to know what's wrong with it. Do you have dirt sheet turned on?

That... could have gone better. To put it mildly. Frehley's promo gets us off to an awesome start, getting the crowd hotter. Kass is off her game, but the young female fans love Charity winning. Champion revs the crowd up with another excellent promo. Whitlock and Cage have great chemistry and their match is far better than expected. More great chemistry, in the tag ranks, from Fedora/Trask. Casey's turn is a complete success. Money has an off night in the angle in which he's welcoming Valentine to the Business, unfortunately. Champion and Trent have great chemistry, while Trent and Raven have pretty good chemistry, but the main suffers from a lack of psychology AND of selling. In addition, the new storyline flopped, and we get hit by a penalty for lack of hot storylines. Ouch.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Munit" data-cite="Munit" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47568" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Is there a way I can tell how long an angle needs to be with a company I'm using? I know it tells you match length</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I THINK the key thing is anything with "Angles need to be short or they'll lose to crowd " means that 5 minutes or less is usually best. (Although someone really amazing on sky high pop and momentum might be able to get past the penalty; I know Rich Money, on Hot momentum, wasn't able to for me.)</p>

I was about to say something about needing more attributes, but if there are extra rolls, that sounds cool. Definitely agree starting with amazing heel or face is OP!

Oh wow. Such an incredible idea for a dynasty!

I think the issue is probably reviewers - imagine if the initial reviews of it were all stuff saying "Couldn't play because it crashed when I pressed 'booking analysis'" (Which I think is the crash you mention above?)

Ah - that's presumably because they know they're worth much more than that in their own country; there was something patched in to stop the situation of workers working in Japan for huge money being happy to do $20 a show deals in the USA. This is presumably an unforeseen consequence. It's super weird that the feds are happy to pay that much for people with so little popularity, though.

I'm not sure you can actually delete it yourself - the best thing to do would probably be to report the original post in it (exclamation mark in top right hand corner) and when it asks for a reason for reporting just explain that you were the OP and want it deleted because, and then give whatever level of detail you feel comfortable giving?

I got distracted by a ton of stuff, mainly trying to find bugs, but finally got around to planning my first show! As mentioned, I'm starting at the top, with USPW. I'm going to talk through long-term planning because when I'm playing a heavily entertainment-based fed it tends to inform most of my booking, and I thought people might be interested in seeing how that went. Extreme variance definitely makes things interesting – in creative, Steve Frehley is my number 1 wrestler. I have 3 Next Big Things - Funky Fedora, Anthony Trask and Sweet Dani Adams USPW’s 1st big show of the year is Stars, Stripes and Slams on Sat week 4 January. To fit in with my plans for 5 – 9 games with each fed, I’m going to get a B show on Thursdays and play through to that PPV, so that’ll be 9 shows altogether. Starting Storylines Champion vs Frehley (heat 89) Money vs Wolf (heat 75) Everything below here is 63 or below; storylines need to be 70 to count towards the heat requirement, and I need 3 of them, so I’m failing it. Strong, Gloria and King vs Melody and Sara Marie (63) Bulldozer vs Shaffer (62) Jillian Jarvis vs Pariah (60) Roger Cage vs Zeus, Bash Street, Siale Valhalla (57) Texas Express vs Cold Warriors (42) The two big stars I don’t currently have in storylines are James Justice and Tyson Baine, so I’m going to add them to one together. Neither wrestles on TV, with both being groomed as road agents with retirement clearly in the near future, but I can definitely get a big PPV bout or two out of them and build up to it with menace stuff from Baine and charisma-based stuff from Justice. Tentative Stars and Stripes Forever line-up World title match: Nicky Champion © vs Steve Frehley – yes, Money has the belt now, but extreme variance has NOT been kind to him and Champion vs Frehley is also a far hotter feud. While I don’t like changing the belt on TV normally, this time I’m going to have to. Rich Money vs Running Wolf James Justice vs Tyson Baine Pariah/Sara Marie/Melody vs Strong/Gloria/King – despite Jarvis vs Pariah being a feud, I think Pariah taking care of her in fairly short order and moving in to this feud as an uneasy ally to the babyfaces may be the way to go here. Bulldozer Brandon Smith vs Trent Shaffer Texas Express vs Cold Warriors Women’s title: Jaime Quine vs Charity Sweet – Sweet is a favourite of mine and with a very good gimmick, and higher psychology than any other face women outside the top three except Missy Masterson, she deserves a PPV gig here. National title: Roger Cage vs Zeus Tag titles: Jacob Jett and Julius Moor vs Bad Intentions – this is something of a ‘whatever’ match, but with the belts on faces, I don’t have many good options (Baine and T-Rex tempted me, but I’d rather do Justice vs Baine) and this at least lets me interweave it with the Cage/Zeus stuff Frehley is at a massive 97 in the Tri-State (as I said, gotta love extreme variance) with Champion at 88, so that’s where the Stars and Stripes Forever card will be held. So, how do we get there? Let's just look at the first episode of American Wrestling to start with. First, we need a way to get the belt from Money to Champion. Champion is at 100 overness in South West, Shaffer is at 86. Let’s go for a main event which sees the pair of them collide in a number one contender’s match for the World title. Raven Nightfall will try to interfere on Trent’s behalf, but Bulldozer Brandon Smith will be there to stop her, furthering that feud with Shaffer. It’s USPW, so we also want a ton of angles related to this. I’m going to build up to it with promos from both guys, along with a hype video. Post-match, Money will come down to sarcastically applaud Champion but say that the match will have to be delayed until February as he already has a match with Running Wolf at Stars and Stripes Forever, he just signed the contract earlier today. (This lets me set up an angle I want to run next week to hotshot the title match and give both a reason for that being on TV and for Money not getting an immediate rematch.) Steve Frehley is on very hot momentum, but getting that higher would be nice. He’s not contracted to wrestle on B shows so there’s a limited time to do that. However, he’s very charismatic and has the squash master attribute. Greg Black seems happy to take a stunt bump, so I briefly considered having that happen, but I’m luckily reminded that our fans may have heart attacks at something that exciting taking place so it wouldn’t be a good plan. Fine, standard squash for him. Casey Valentine is a face, and this just seems WRONG, even though his attributes say it’s okay. To me, from past games, though, Valentine will always be an insufferably arrogant heel, sort of like Rich Money. Which gives me an idea… Valentine/Running Wolf vs Dusty DuCont/Charlie Thatcher, with Valentine smugly refusing to tag in, leading to Ducont getting the win. Post-match, Money welcomes Casey Valentine as the newest member of the Business. This sets up an immediate Wolf vs Casey match for next week, gives me the chance to tease dissension in The Business in a few weeks with Whitlock unhappy about the new recruit, and gives me something to do with Ducont and Thatcher. I’ll throw in Sara Marie/Melody vs Gloria/King followed by Pariah saving the faces from a Triumvirate beatdown, then an angle in which Sara Marie challenging the Triumvirate to a six-woman tag next week and offering a hand to Pariah, who tentatively shakes it. TV shows are meant to be 30% angles – in practice meaning you can go between 15% and 45% - and I’m more confident in various angles getting sky-high scores than in Nicky vs Trent as a main, so I’ll skew closer to 45%. This means I need somewhere around 66 minutes of matches. Let’s say 7 minutes for Frehley, 10 for the tags, 12 or so for Nicky vs Trent. That’s about 27 minutes left. I’m going to throw in three fairly short matches, all with people I have PPV plans for beating people I don’t. So, let’s say Sweet over Kass, Cage with a National title defense against Whitlock (who’ll come up short, adding to The Business dissension soon when Money encourages Valentine to go after the belt rather than Whitlock as Whitlock’s failed once) and Texas Express over the thrown together team of Funky Fedora and Anthony Trask, followed by Cold Warriors attacking the faces. More angles needed, of course. I’m going to have the former tag champions, Law and Justice, come out to announce that 2020 will be their last year in the ring and that they’re determined to make it a successful farewell. As the crowd applaud them, Tyson Baine and T-Rex will come out and mock them, saying they’re past it, leading to T-Rex vs Law next week (as Baine/Justice don’t wrestle on TV.) Joss Thompson isn't booked at all and is one of our bigger stars in that situation, apart from Enygma who I've given a week's paid holiday to due to not having plans for him. I'm going to have Joss issue a challenge to Cage for the National title on USPW Explosion as a way to kick the B-show off with a great main event. Joss is happy to put Roger over - I love that we can use Talk To Worker to check this! So for the first episode that gives us Number 1 contender's match: Nicky Champion vs Trent Shaffer Steve Frehley vs Greg Black Casey Valentine/Running Wolf vs Dusty DuCont/Charlie Thatcher Sara Marie/Melody vs Glorious Gloria/Juliette King Charity Sweet vs Killer Kass National Title match: Roger Cage vs Sterling Whitlock Texas Express vs Funky Fedora/Anthony Trask Show to follow later today...

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Remianen" data-cite="Remianen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47568" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Workers can gain skills while being not rated in angles. I've gotten Khloe to the 20s in her entertainment skills while not having a client but being involved in angles where she's not rated. (Think: Vince walking out to the (eventual) exploding limo. Remember Paul London?)</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Oh, interesting! Thanks.</p>

Definitely can't find singles chemistry in tags. I don't THINK you can find tags in anything with more than 2 on a team, but it's a great question and I'm not 100% sure about it.

Buck Graham vs. Hell's Bouncer Happy Elwood vs. Charlie Corner Molokai Milk vs. Jules Night Jackpot Jordan vs. LA Star #1 AWO World Heavyweight Title Match Kip Keenan vs. Buzz Reid

Just as a heads-up, a bunch of testing shows that Wrestleworld will make a significant difference to wage requests from people in other feds who have deals on it, as they'll get over enough to raise their average overness. This WON'T affect people you already have signed - at least not especially quickly, unless they have certain personality types they seem fairly slow to ask for a raise - but will at least spread the wages out a little from March onwards, making it more realistic/challenging. (Or later if you're playing outside North America, anyway.)

I don’t think people not rated can gain? Try rating Chord on ent too.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Corey" data-cite="Corey" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47568" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Has anyone had any luck talking a worker into becoming an Announcer? Can pretty easily convince anyone with good mic skills to become a Colour Commentator but nobody seems to want to become an Announcer, saying they don't think they're suited to it. Anybody have an idea of what traits/skills might lead someone to being talked into that role?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Reasonably sure they'd need something like 50 in announcing, which I doubt anyone would actually have, so yeah, would be impossible.</p>