Mammoth
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AWW Ultra:
BCW (with Bluegrass Wrestling Classic trophy to match):
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AWF.
And I also did some WrestleFest alts:
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Here's the second event for AOW (in all its simplicity) that I didn't manage to do before:
And here's ATW, which I had a lot of fun with:
Credit to DarkVoidPictures for the Orgy of Violence logo.
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No, they're definitely not the WWC Tag Team or the WWC Caribbean Tag Team titles. Rico Suave was managing around the early-90s for both WWC and the Americas Wrestling Federation run by Hércules Ayala, Chicky Starr, Hugo Savinovich and Gloria Uribe though. Could it be possible that the belts are from the AWF, as very little information is known about the promotion and it wouldn't have surprised me at all to see guys like The Texas Hangmen do well there? I don't know, facially - as in shape and what have you - he just screams Rico Suave to me.
I presume that picture is after it's been upscaled, @Kubikiri Asa? Have you got the original as well, just in case the AI has changed the detail in the title belts?
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38 minutes ago, Kubikiri Asa said:
Anyone knows the identity of Texas Hangmen's manager?
I'm not 100% sure but it could be a young and clean shaven Rico Suave who managed them in Puerto Rico?
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I realised AOW only had two events so that seemed like a better stopping off point for my break from the T-Verse so I started, but things have come up so the second event will have to wait. Here's what I've managed thus far though, including an updated title picture to match:
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I had a bit of time this morning and managed to get through AMAZON. It'll probably be a day or two before you see any more, but they're coming along quite nicely even if I do say so myself.
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I've managed to finish the few I had left, so here's a look at the AJJ events. I've included the "major" events (Finales and such like) and the regular nights/series' but each one has their own, numbered accordingly. Instead of posting them all, I've started added them to the most recent database that I found in the second post of this thread and I'll upload the whole set with them all properly attached to the data when I'm done to make it easier for the team.
Thank you all for the kind words thus far.
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2 hours ago, jhd1 said:
They're awesome! I'd be up for including them if they were finished. Might work better on a flat background these days though?
Fair enough.
I worked off the style that @Idolized used once upon a time for NCW events and as I don't think anything I come up with would better them, I figured I'd probably just make them part of whatever I can ultimately come up with - but to keep them uniform from now on, I've edited them to match. Hope that's okay, Idol?
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I forgot, but I started putting together event logos for the Thunderverse a while back and it turns out I've still got them. Here's a complete set for AAW, having started alphabetically. I've also got a few AJJ events but I figure I'll see if I can finish them before posting. If it's something the team (or its fans) is interested in, I may be able to find some time to try and complete all events?
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4 hours ago, Jaysin said:
Could someone more talented than I please make this mask and singlet gold?
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36 minutes ago, OleCrankyGamer said:
I didn't know you would continue to update, which was a very pleasant surprise!
Always updating! 😆It's a never-ending project as a modification maker.
39 minutes ago, OleCrankyGamer said:is there a way to match up a show with an event so I can choose the location for the show? Like AWA holding their TV Show at WTCN studios?
Unfortunately not. I imagine it's something Adam could potentially add to a future iteration of TEW (if that's ever going to be a thing at this point) as it's theoretically the same mechanics as the ones he uses for events.
42 minutes ago, OleCrankyGamer said:For Bunny Love and The Crusher, I recall in the 70s when she was in WWA, and they played off each other so well, one of those long lost memories where hardly any video exists. Although I believe I added WWA on my own
No, WWA is already part of the modification. I didn't know they interacted very much though, so thanks, I'll add their chemistry now.
46 minutes ago, OleCrankyGamer said:BTW, any plans to put Gulf Athletic Club with KHTV-39 at the Sam Houston Coliseum? I put them in but it is so difficult to have them act like they did in real life, using loaners for their Saturday extravaganzas
It's something I've ummed and arghed over for a long time - especially when I added Paul Boesch to the modification. I'm always open to adding more promotions, especially if it opens up other possibilities. I'll give it a look over next time I go in for a large update of Territory Daze, but I can't promise anything either way.
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14 hours ago, OleCrankyGamer said:
I also tend to change 50th state, BWF, BTW & AJW to have their broadcast deal give 75% to company
Which promotion do you refer to as "BWF", sorry?
14 hours ago, OleCrankyGamer said:For EMLL, XHTM and canal 8 need much lower expectations and they should have their TV show Consejo Mundial de Lucha Libre. They also need their Anniversary Show which should be on number 36 by 1970
XHTM aren't part of the modification as far as I'm aware, but I've just done a small bit of research on the station and think it could warrant inclusion in the future.
As far as I'm aware, there was no lucha libre on television at this time. There was in the 1950s with television studios actually challenging EMLL itself because they could offer more money, but in 1956 the Department of the Federal District prohibited the broadcasts because some parents complained that their children imitated the "dangerous movements of the wrestlers" which actually lead to the huge surge in popularity in the 60s as everyone followed through the movies and magazines. As far as I'm aware, the sport didn't actually return to television until the 90s when CMLL joined Televisa. I'm always happy to change though if you (or anyone else) can prove otherwise?
I know you said these aren't all notes for Territory Daze so I'm guessing this may well be the case, but just as we're on the subject, the Aniversario show is already part of the modification and the next number is 37, not 36, as far as I know.
On 6/13/2023 at 6:14 AM, OleCrankyGamer said:Dale Martin Promotions had Viewpoint and Royal Albert Tourneys both held on Fridays where they got those respective cups, I believe the latter was held in December...still don't know how to get all of Joint Promotions to participate though.
From my records, they were held on Wednesdays and both were held in April. I just realised I never made corresponding events though, so I've now added them for the next update so everything is linked correctly and set to be run at the correct venue (the Royal Albert Hall). Unfortunately, there is currently no way of holding joint shows (even within an alliance) unless you simulate it yourself by bringing in other Joint workers manually.
On 6/13/2023 at 6:14 AM, OleCrankyGamer said:Hollywood Wrestling, broadcaster was KCOP
I believe this happened shortly after the start date of the modification unless you can prove otherwise? In my records, the Los Angeles Times reported that "tonight" (August 12, 1970) was the "25th anniversary of the Wednesday wrestling shows on KTLA" so I presume they moved to KCOP in the early-70s, as I know they were popular there through the rest of the decade. I just realised I haven't added KCOP, so it'll be there for the next update.
On 6/13/2023 at 6:14 AM, OleCrankyGamer said:AGPW should have a tour in the summer months
They do. Week 3 of June to Week 3 of September.
On 6/13/2023 at 6:14 AM, OleCrankyGamer said:Florida Sportatorium should be owned by CWF
Dallas Sportatorium should be owner by BTW
Both are already the case.
On 6/13/2023 at 6:14 AM, OleCrankyGamer said:PCAC had KBHK - Big Time Wrestling on Sat Night. Hank Renner was announcer and Pepper Martin was color. All Star Wrestling was Friday nights at 9pm. KTVU also has a strong signal there
Again, I think this is something that changed slightly later than the start date of the modification. Everything I've added is correct as far as I'm aware. I've added a note to myself to include KBHK for future updates though.
On 6/13/2023 at 6:14 AM, OleCrankyGamer said:roster for PCAC was
1.) bookers red bastien & johnny doyle
2.) ray stevens & pat patterson pepper gomez kenji shibuya
3.) bearcat wright
4.) henry orderman
5.) enrique torres the great mephisto ricky romero the destroyer
6.) red lyons blackjack lanza buddy austin angelo poffo red bastien
7.) bobby bruns steve stanlie ray thunder stern wilbur snyder
8.) walt harris announcer
9.) pete peterson referee
10.) cow palace 18 man battle royal annual Nov 11
11.) ray stevens & peter maivia tag team
12.) pat patterson & paul demarco tag team
have house show in Alaska
Roddy Piper based in SW
13.) ed wiskowski dean ho black gordman alex smirnoff
14.) mando guerrero kurt & karl von steiger texas red jimmy golden
15.) vivkie williams the fabulous moolah chavo guerrero bob roop
16.) ed moretti
Cow Palace 18 man Battle Royal for PCAC on Nov 111.) Red Bastien was still an AWA staple at the start of 1970, and Johnny Doyle died in 1969.
2.) Pepper Gomez was also part of the AWA mantle at this point. Kinji Shibuya is a better shout as although I can't find anything confirming he was signed at this point, he's currently a free agent and I know he was a regular so I don't think it'll hurt sticking him with PCAC.
3.) Bearcat Wright was more of a regular in Los Angeles until Gene LeBell ran him out for being a mercenary and as far as I'm aware, he was closer to Arizona at this point.
4.) The only Henry Orderman I know of died in the 1940s?
5.) I know Enrique Torres became a road agent after retiring, but I couldn't find anything to suggest he was with PCAC? The Great Mephisto was still encased in the South East in January, 1970 and didn't head west until the early-1970s. Ricky Romero was still a huge part of Amarillo booking. And, finally for this line, The Destroyer was definitely more associated with Los Angeles but at the starting point of this modification, he had moved away from the South West for the time being and began touring a wider circuit.
6.) Billy Red Lyons was all around at this point but at the date of the modification, he wasn't in San Francisco and was predominantly in AWA with the aforementioned Red Bastien. Blackjack Lanza was a fixture of the Mid West and, as far as I'm aware, only headed down to the South West in the mid-60s, which is already represented in his employment history. "Killer" Buddy Austin was still around the area at this time (predominantly in Los Angeles and Hawaii) but he certainly wasn't with PCAC at the start of the modification. And Angelo Poffo was with PCAC in the mid-1960s but had left by the end of the decade.
7.) Bobby Bruns retired in the early-60s and to the best of my knowledge, I don't believe he worked as a road agent or such like in the area? I presume you mean Steve Stanlee? If so, he was in the area in the mid-to-late-60s (particularly in Hawaii) but as far as I'm aware, he was retired by the end of the decade. Similarly, Ray "Thunder" Stern was retired in the mid-1960s. Wilbur Snyder wasn't in the area at this time and was largely entrenched in the Great Lakes area (and surrounding areas) after touring Japan in 1969.
8.) Is already the case.
9.) I believe Pete Peterson was gone by this point as he would have been incredibly old.
10.) I neglected to include it because they didn't host one in 1970 and 1971. I may add it in though as a 20 Man Battle Royal and an achievement. I could skew reality a little bit and make it active or just add it as inactive and allow users to bring it back; I'll have a think about that, and see which I think would be most entertaining.
11.) Is already the case.
12.) They began teaming in 1971 so I completely missed this. I'll add it for future updates.
13.) Ed Wiskoski didn't debut until 1972. Dean Ho was definitely in Canada at this point, and did venture down in PNW too. Black Gordman was in PCAC in the late-1960s (which is represented in his employment history) but was back South of the border by the start of the next decade. Alexis Smirnoff had literally just debuted and hadn't left his home area yet.
14.) Mando hadn't debuted yet. The Von Steigers had left the area by the late-60s, and they didn't stay anywhere for too long. I presume you mean the female Texas Red and not the future Undertaker? If so, unfortunately, I can't find enough information on her to include her in the modification, and I'm not sure she was in PCAC at that time either way. Jimmy Golden/Bunkhouse Buck was still working with his family in the South East as he had only just debuted.
15.) For both Vickie Williams and The Fabulous Moolah, I don't believe they brought in women's wrestling until later in the year Fran Gravette, Sandy Parker and Donna Christanello joining them too. Chavo Guerrero wasn't in the area yet. And Bob Roop had only just debuted so was still only seen in the South East, as far as I'm aware.
16.) Ed Moretti hadn't debuted yet.
On 6/13/2023 at 6:14 AM, OleCrankyGamer said:They usually ran in kaiser center oakland as well as cow palace
I'll add the Kaiser Center for future updates.
On 6/13/2023 at 6:14 AM, OleCrankyGamer said:Motoko Iko needs on screen and road agent
I wouldn't class her as either. She never appeared on-screen regularly and I don't think you could put her under the bracket of Road Agent as that's not the role she fulfilled.
On 6/13/2023 at 6:14 AM, OleCrankyGamer said:Jim Crockett Sr. should have Wrestling in his blood
That is already the case.
On 6/13/2023 at 6:14 AM, OleCrankyGamer said:Moolah and Donna Christenello need desperado and age is just a number
The Fabulous Moolah was already assigned correctly, but I've added Desperado to Donna Christanello.
On 6/13/2023 at 6:14 AM, OleCrankyGamer said:Nick Bockwinkel & Jerry Lawler need Age is just a number
I've added it to Nick Bockwinkel as that's a very good shout, but I'd argue Jerry Lawler did decline quite rapidly it just didn't stop him from wrestling.
On 6/13/2023 at 6:14 AM, OleCrankyGamer said:Vern Gagne needs announcing skill and on screen job, he should also have age is just a number and desparado
I don't believe Verne Gagne did announcing or fulfilled an on-screen role, did he? He also doesn't need Desperado as he already has Wrestling in the Blood enabled. I'd also put him in the same bracket I put Jerry Lawler in as he's someone who did decline, it just didn't stop him from competing. There's plenty of wrestlers from around that time who state he was well passed his best by the 1970s and basically relied on a headlock.
On 6/13/2023 at 6:14 AM, OleCrankyGamer said:Randy Colley needs Moondog Rex gimmick
Already the case.
On 6/13/2023 at 6:14 AM, OleCrankyGamer said:Bill Smithson should be Moondog Spike, not Larry Latham or Larry Booker
Larry Booker should have Larry Latham and Moondog Spot as alter egos
This is already the case. Moondog Spike has the "Bill Smithson" alter ego and Moondog Spot has the "Larry Booker" and "Larry Latham" alter egos.
On 6/13/2023 at 6:14 AM, OleCrankyGamer said:SWCW needs a a TV Show as Joe Blanchard was the first wrestling guy to really grasp the importance of TV for wrestling, which is the only reason he lasted so long.
The Southwest Championship Wrestling promotion is not part of this modification.
On 6/13/2023 at 6:14 AM, OleCrankyGamer said:Eddie Graham should not be good in business, he was a creative GENIUS, but well, we know why he self deleted. Cornette should probably be a lesser Eddie Graham, good in creativity and bad in business.
I believe this is reflected in both examples. Both their Business Reputation and their Booking Reputation are far lower than their respective Booking Skills.
On 6/13/2023 at 6:14 AM, OleCrankyGamer said:Bunny Love and Crusher have great chemistry
How so?
On 6/13/2023 at 6:14 AM, OleCrankyGamer said:ECWA Super 8 Tournament with their Heavyweight, Tag Team, Legacy and Territory championships, even though records were not kept, the 1st HW champion was in 1967 and was Red Devil
Without aforementioned records, I'm more inclined to leave it as it is - a challenge for users should they so choose.
On 6/13/2023 at 6:14 AM, OleCrankyGamer said:I also added the American Heavyweight championship lineage and the Original World Heavyweight championship putting those old guys like Hackenschmidt, Edwin Bibby, Evan "Stangler" Lewis, Frank Gotch, Tom Jenkins, Wladek Zbyszko & Jim Londos in the Hall of immortals along with that little known wrestler Abraham Lincoln
It's something I've considered but I've already denoted a considerable amount of time and energy to the Hall of Immortals, and the workers title histories within. I think doing much more just inflates and slows down the modification for very little gain.
On 6/13/2023 at 6:14 AM, OleCrankyGamer said:Anyway, sorry for the old man diatribe
I love this sort of thing as it makes me go back through the nitty-gritty of the modification so don't ever feel like you have to apologise. And I also love hearing from "old" men who may actually know more about this time than I do. I thank you for your comments and your time in putting together these notes, even if they weren't all meant for this modification. If you ever have more, I'll be happy to comb through them again.
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1 hour ago, lavelleuk said:
Probably a long shot, but I am using this render for Shogun Watoga, who of course was Sir Winston Watoga.
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11 hours ago, Terrorsquad87 said:
Does this work with TheWho87 Mods?
It's a skin so it'll work with any modification. It's also been released, and can be found here:
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1, 2, 4 & 5 are in the first picture (labelled accordingly) and 3 is in the second picture.
EDIT: I just realised snakesonaplane posted the first picture before, but that's definitely the best posed photo you're going to find of 1, 2, 4 & 5.
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May be your browser @Jaysin. All still appear correctly for me. I use Google Chrome, for reference.
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Why a Puerto Rican promotion has never been able to go national (or even global) is beyond me because their crowds are some of the best as they're always red-hot. Backlash wasn't even that great but that crowd elevated it exponentially. It was like a peak Attitude Era crowd.
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Used some more free renders of smw88 to bring these ugly dudes up to date. 😂 Decided not to go down the identical twin route and instead just find two of the ugliest renders I could and make them match as much as possible. I strangely liked the result so thought I'd share just in case anyone else wanted to update their looks. Can you imagine what their agers would look like if this is them at 20? 😛
The Buchanans (Bounce & Flip)
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A few more of I've done using free renders and/or other peoples re-renders recently:
Asif Allam
Arlo Costa
Annie Hitchcock (render by LoNdOn - I added the snapper)
Amo Del Gato
American Machine (I don't know who did the original render but I added the face paint)
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I used some of the free renders from the amazing @King Bison and @smw88 to create these for a personal project, and thought I'd share:
The Great Hisato & Akihiro Hisato
Air Attack Weasel
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Looks extremely interesting, and looks like you're putting a lot of effort into the tiny details (like title defences, for example) which I love. I can only echo Idolized and wish you luck, and if you need to take anything from Shifting Sands then you're more than welcome.
P.S - Great choice of skin. 😛
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2 hours ago, mk3kratos said:
Do you by chance have one for WSW? I'm trying to build a cruiserweight division there myself.
I didn't have one but I quickly threw this together, so I hope it suits your needs.
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11 hours ago, falling_star said:
Anyone have an NWA Cruiserweight title belt that fits in with the NWA belts from @Mammoth in this set?
Ask and you shall receive.
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Thank you all for the kind words thus far.
Thunderverse Rey de Reyes Release Thread
in Total Extreme Wrestling 2020 Mods
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BLKNS:
And I also decided to try and tackle television shows (starting with the promotions that I've already done), taking inspiration from @jhd1 himself in his 1986 modification. I'll include a PSD file when I upload the finished database so people can still create their own should they choose to do so.