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Nothing really. Just the owner will hate you and be unwilling to work for you.

They will become hostile very quickly especially if you beat them in regional battles. On my climb to Cult with PSW every single regional company in the US hated my guts. Mostly COTT promotions

I just imagine someone using like 15 Keep strong notes and getting like a 65 match grade because of it

I want to play a bit with the new scouting system, it seems quite reasonable.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Steven James" data-cite="Steven James" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm surprised nobody's done that yet.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Doesn't that depend on the workers in your company? I thought it only showed the best guys on the roster in that area. So TCW's ring generals would have a different stamina than MAW's ring generals.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> You just remove the pushes of everyone so you can look at the guys you want to. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="John Lions" data-cite="John Lions" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>We're getting off of the actual meat of the topic, but I'll bite.<p> </p><p> What is difficulty? In a simulation game, wouldn't making it so you can't have 100% accuracy, and making you spend more time to get information to use, be making it more difficult? Especially when you have to continually play with pushes to see things like Hot Prospects and such. If we're going to nitpick, I'd say that turning on Fog of War absolutely would make it more difficult, because, at a minimum, it makes you spend X amount of extra time digging through non-exact reports to get an idea of what the stats tell you in seconds.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> It doesn’t make it any more difficult, workers starting stats are largely irrelevant, the only reason to use it would be to see their potential which is really the only thing that matters, since by the time they are polished enough to be viable they will be out of Fog anyway.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Assuming forced Fog, I would literally only use it to see the exact Star Quality range, that’s the only difference from a non Fog game.</p><p> </p><p> And as stated, it doesn’t increase difficulty, it just makes it more inconvenient and slower. I don’t want fake difficulty in the form of pedantry, give me decent AI or something, that’s the actual difficulty.</p>

You can literally see how good every wrestler under 30 is going to be in the creative meeting screen. With minimal maneuvering you can also see the exact range of star quality he has, the exact range of charisma we has, if he ever will be charismatic, exactly the range his performance skills will be at. Using ring General you can estimate within 10 or so points what his stamina would be, not including practical testing since stamina thresholds are ridiculously linear and always ping for the exact same match length thresholds. Using showstopper you can get a similar estimate of a wrestlers flashiness, athleticism and star quality. The only thing you can’t see with reasonable certainty is top row stat, and even that can be gamed to be estimatable by using match types and checking for notes. Furthermore even beyond that, the game TELLS you, albeit in a slightly more ambiguous way if the worker is good or not. If you see Rumble - Excellent, that means the worker probably has over 70 brawling. The exact figures are more obscure but again, it doesn’t make anything more difficult than it would be otherwise, this is the sole reason I don’t use it.

I played 2013 as a sandbox. 2016 is difficult to play that way due to needing a very specific set of workers to sustain National or go beyond it. I recently had a game for OLLIE and had Dr Rudo who highrolled 100 overness cap. Normally I would’ve made him the biggest heel in Mexico and did a stable like the Legion of Evil and based my shows around him. But due to National Battle system I was forced to use him as a midcarder and wait to poach Velicoiodad and El Leon from SOTBW. Rudo has excellent charisma and great skills but only 75 star quality and no weight change. 7.5 x 100 = 750. 750 isn’t even hitting the board in a National battle. He’s non viable.

I can see the merit of keeping it in as an option be not having the option to compare or search skills. The thing is as I said it’s a vocal minority, so many players are either EWR players or mod players and it just doesn’t matter in these cases. Moreover for the people it DOES affect, has the fog of war really ever made it unclear who is good in the game? It’s still extremely obvious. Secondly my biggest issue with this complaint is that people overwhelmingly supported the star quality based National battle system, which did 100 times more to take away the simulation aspect of the game away than some silly fog of war feature. The National battle system fundamentally changes the way the game can be played.

Promise system is weird. Basically get to brute force push whoever gives a promise, then feed them to the promised worker for crazy gains. Very much an unnecessary booking crutch. Yes. Particularly when said opinions are uninformed or based in incorrect information.

If you ever thought fog of war added any challenge to the game you probably were playing either so suboptimal it doesn’t make a difference whether you do or you don’t, or you play with so many crutches it also doesn’t matter whether you do or you don’t. Largely, anyone who plays mods is a classic example, as almost every historical mod has cartoonishly overpowered workers which render anything beyond a roleplaying experience completely moot. But I’m not here to really argue your opinion on the game. More to dissuade any potential sentiment which may reflect a knee jerk reaction to change the system. Since I’m pretty convinced people are being intentionally hyperbolic in order to enact unnecessary changes they want, much like the National battle system change. Especially given that almost every relevant worker for the last 2 entries has been unaffected by Fog entirely because they have enough experience to be fully scoutable on game start, it’s very hard for me to take these “dealbreaker” complaints as genuine.

I certainly was not flaming anyone. I am quite unperturbed. And yes, this not only has applied to technical but all top row stats. Only the biggest one matters, the rest have other use, mostly training and also previously for match types although this has been removed, so now we’ll rounded stats are slightly less useful than before(unsure of how this will play into the new aims system, this needs testing) It could just end up that guys working say a High Spots aim get really good grades if they have good aerial and so on. Which makes stat diversity a little more worth it.

It’s not too difficult. The game isn’t complicated and most things are visually represented totne player. Every now and then I come across a very minor discovery buy I haven’t learned anything particularly interesting about TEWs engine in a long while. And no I wouldn’t say that the people who didn’t know about how stats work is the minority. It’s obvious most people don’t pay attention.

One I did not make 5 posts in a row. Two several people have expressed apathy or support for the removal. And again, an overwhelming majority of TEW players are historical mod players. If you really play with Fog of War in a game re-enacting the Attitude Era I don’t know what to say to you. Or really even CVerse since the database has again, been exactly the same for years now. Even the debuting workers most people have already seen due to playing long TEW2016 games, their stats don’t really change with new editions. Also even for say a random mod like Thunderverse where Fog might have some appeal, the young wrestlers who are obscured by fog don’t even matter. Since you should never push a worker based on his starting skills but his caps which is observable in the creating meeting screen anyway. Lastly, to the guy who said that Fog prevents signing the best workers and pushing him, how exactly? It doesn’t give you misleading or incorrect stats, even through Fog you can still see exactly how good a worker is, it’s jjst much less information. If you see a worker who is “Weak” in most stats, you are still well aware he is probably not worth signing regardless of it’s represented numerically or not. Conversely, workers who are excellent prospects will have descriptions matching that, it really makes little difference at all.

These are all very obvious though. The match engine in this game is as simply as you’d expect from a one man developer. I figured out everything there is to know about TEW years ago and my first one was 2013. I’m really just surprised most of these things aren’t common knowledge but I feel Ike a lot of people don’t read a lot of my posts. Secondly, they aren’t exactly meaningless. Each stat has a huge effect on worker training, and especially with how wonky new gen stat distribution is, there is a lot of value in having guys who are great in a large number of stats, even if technically he only needs to be good in one. Put it this way, a guy with 77 in every top row stat will basically improve your entire roster every time they wrestle him. If you really play for efficiency, limited guys have diminishing returns beyond just normal grades at actually improving your roster and thus setting you up for better grades in the future, where well rounded guys, like say a lot of the Japanese guys can be used with anyone and particularly have value in tag teams if they lowroll on overness or have low SQ. Anyway, specifically the issue with Tech/Sub/Mat as stated was that due to destiny caps being so random, you did have a lot of chances for a guy to have at least one dominant technical skill and he only needed one to be a grades machine. I highly prefer it being removed particularly for the sake of having more stable stats overall. Also if this bothers you, I hope you realize that an 80/0/0/0/0/0 Brawler performs exactly the same as an 80/79...etc, one.

Basic math. 85ish represents a high level young prospect in TEW. 8.5 x 100 = 850 One of the games pre designated main eventers will have 94ish SQ. 9.4 x 91 = 855 Now granted TEW also features a feature called overnesss caps, which will rapidly drop a character in popularity each day he is beyond the limit the game thinks he should stay. 99.5 percent of the database has an overness cap below 100, meaning on average only SQ > 90 is viable in National battles given the pre existing talent in the game. This problem becomes more pronounced as the game progresses, because new gens start as overness zero. See the way the game generates overness caps is by looking at the characters starting overness and then going up. This causes a comical bias in overness caps for already existing main eventers, but because almost all new gens start at zero, their range is so much higher and more susceptible to lowrolling. Actually had a recent game of the best new gen I ever saw, he had 99 SQ after getting ripped but only B+ overness cap. Let’s say it’s an 87 9.9 x 87 = 861 This means in the average game, he will be like a 4th or so best guy in a National Battle, which is valuable, especially for a new gen, but still largely inferior to the games pre-determined stars (Dead Pool, Golden, Hawkins, Champion, etc) Basically TEW2016 plays you, you don’t play it. Conversely, in 2013, the two best guys in my company were Ricky Storm and Jason Dempsey, with a Jason Dempsey having. A meager 39 star quality but over 80 charisma and 90s in performance. I very much played 2013, the game didn’t require me to pre-determine my choices in running a wrestling simulation. 2016 is literally a math game not a booking simulator, but overwhelming prominence of mod play obscures this.

No that’s called a vocal minority. Especially given pretty much any feature being removed will have people who complain for the sake of it no matter how minor. I mean people are literally complaining about two useless stats being removed that serves no purpose other than to create game world imbalances.

Except the CVerse has been the same for the last 15 years ago and not knowing who is good by now indicates a severe lack of of concentration at best. Even moreso for RW mods where literally everyone knows who’s good beforehand because they are based on real or historical wrestlers. It only has ever mattered for newgens who are mostly worthless anyway and aren’t even on by default.

No this isn’t how it works in the game engine. This is why flashiness is an integral stat on the Creative Meeting for Show Stoppers

It has always used the highest number. It literally has never made a difference. You can see this yourself. It’s really apparent in mods where people make more extreme stat distributions. Alexander atomic and his 94 or whatever Mat Wrestling in Cverse 77 comes to mind. If you increased his poor submissions to be in the 70s it wouldn’t even do anything. The only purpose it had was for training purpose. It technically made technically wrestlers disproportionately OP over long games because they had 3 chances to be elite top row guys where everyone else had 1 In game terms this nonsense stat gets used as the primary modifier to determine the winner of a national battle regardless of overness. It absolutely does not work intuitively considering the generated workers generate in a fashion that makes “star quality” a completely irrelevant stat. There’s also a huge issue in that Adam decided Star Quality for most young workers of note many years ago, started with the values much higher and now has dramatically decreased it as time goes by. I don’t even see how 2020 CVerse is going to be sustainable given the workers yet to deny in 2016 all start with laughable star qualities in the 60s and such even for the decent prospects. This might be one of the first years he manually adjusts those values but if not it’s going to be silly with all these super old high SQ guys dominating National battle scenes. I guess Adam realized this along with feedback and is now setting the star quality to actually grow over time so we’ll see. I’ve definitively voiced my opinion over the years I absolutely hate the stat and how it works especially in 2016, it basically ruined the game. The issue is that much like the WMMA3 > WMMA4 transition the QOL upgrades are so dramatic that 2013 is unplayable now. Same with WMMA3 being much better than 4 but being unplayable due to contract minigame fixed in 4.

There is only one Brawling and one Aerial stat. Puroresu and Hardcore are their own separate skills with different calculations and previously supported different match styles. For example you couldn’t use a Puro worker in a Brawl match and it actually do anything unless he had Brawling. Anyway I like the change because the old system, as many things worked terribly with new gens. First of all the technical wrestlers didn’t spawn right because tech/chain were tied together but not submissions so you’d often see 80/80/50 technical prodigies which is weird but my favorite was having a Giant Entertainer with high 70s submissions after years of development and chain and mat in the 40s. Flashyness has nothing to do with the Aerial stat. It’s a catch all match modified that gives huge boosts just like Athleticisn(only moreso). You can have a Brawler with 0 aerial and 80 flashiness and he perform better and likely be a show stopper. No the issue was that it used the Charisma stat and not Microphone. The color commentary stat was an awful addition and created more problems than it fixed. The thing about being a color commentator is you need to know how to talk. Warrior had a lot of charisma but couldn’t really talk, because charisma extends a lot more than just verbal skills. Macho Man couldn’t talk at all. He was a one note oddball promo who never said much of anything but he had a good catchphrase and fancy outfits and good body mannerisms of course he’d be a crap commentator. On the other hand there are guys who are boring and have no charisma who can talk. They can make decent color commentators. Guys like CM Punk would have high Microphone skills and also adept on commentary. Booker T has a lot of charisma but is only average microphone and not the greatest color commentator.

Big fan of the removal of match types. I hated how every high risk match was either Brawl abased or Hardcore based. No one in the database could work half the more extreme type matches because everyone’s hardcore stat is so bad. In general the hardcore stat as whole is probably I’ll conceived but meh... this alleviates one issue. Also TLC matches randomly being high spot matches when tons of workers have worked that match style before.

Thank god for variable star quality

<p><img alt="CT2rOWg.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/CT2rOWg.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> We couldn't afford to rest on our mild success. We needed to get a lot better. Soon we'd be big enough in the Mexican wrestling scene that we'd be directly compared to our counterparts in the region, and we aren't even close to competing with them at this stage.</p><p> </p><p> We also needed to get ready for our next show. While I was doing my rounds, I discovered a beautiful, young aspiring wrestler named <strong>Magdalena Santos</strong>. Normally I wouldn't even look at new wrestlers, as we are at full capacity already, but this one is special and could change Mexican wrestling forever. She looks stunning, has a star presence about her, and a great ability to learn. After talking with her, I decided to sign her to the roster indefinitely, and have her debut on <strong>LL 2</strong>.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Introducing</p><p> </p><p> <img alt="s4qzWlN.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/s4qzWlN.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> <strong><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Mary Magdalena</span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p> Age: 20 [Rookie]</p><p> Size: Skinny Small</p><p> Gimmick: Saint</p><p> Disposition: Tecnico</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <em> Avatar believed in her potential so much he was willing to take a loss in order to have her on the roster. She was still cheap, so he wasn't too worried, and there is no guarantee everyone will be used each month either, which will save money.</em></p><p><em> </em></p><p><em> Avatar was satisfied, and got working immediately on the press release for the next event </em><em><strong>LL 2</strong></em></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46722" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> <div style="text-align:center;"><p><span style="font-size:18px;"><strong>LL 2</strong></span></p></div><p></p><p> </p><p> <strong>Keep the Doctor Away</strong></p><p> </p><p> <img alt="iRZvLPG.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/iRZvLPG.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="T3OzgLb.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/T3OzgLb.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> <strong><strong>Doctor O'Haire</strong></strong> may have lost the <strong>King of Lucha Libre</strong> title to <strong>El Cique Jr</strong> at LL 1, but he isn't going away just yet. He's willing to target <strong>El Cique's</strong> precious prodigies to get a rematch!</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <strong>Love Triangle?</strong></p><p> </p><p> <img alt="7V4Eicx.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/7V4Eicx.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="n5XlOdA.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/n5XlOdA.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> <img alt="yhVdWpP.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/yhVdWpP.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <strong>Fernando</strong> and <strong>Catalina Vasquez</strong> are Lucha Lucha!'s cutest couple, but <strong>Elsa Calvo</strong> is here to wreck their home, she wants to embarrass <strong>Catalina</strong> in a wrestling match and show <strong>Fernando</strong> she is the one for him.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Plus <strong>El Cique Jr</strong> will be defending his title and the honor of Lucha Lucha vs a local talent and the debut of <strong>Mary Magdalena</strong>!</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <strong>Main Event </strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong>El Cique Jr vs a Hometown Challenger for the King of Lucha Libre title.</strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <strong>Co-Main Event</strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong>Doctor O'Haire vs Alfonso Bravo</strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <strong>Grudge Match</strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong>Catalina Vasquez vs Elsa Calvo in a Bra and Panties Match</strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <strong>Opening Match </strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong>Mary Magdalena vs Maribel Mercado</strong></p><p> </p><p> </p></div></blockquote>

<p><img alt="CT2rOWg.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/CT2rOWg.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> <em>A huge weight was off my shoulders, the first ever show of Lucha Lucha! was a huge success. Just the bare minimum, but the old veteran </em><em><strong>Cique Jr carried the show and really earned his paycheck. We'd need a lot more than him to beat </strong></em><em><strong><strong>MHW</strong></strong></em><em><strong> and </strong></em><em><strong><strong>OLLIE</strong></strong></em><em><strong> but it was a fantastic start. I had perhaps overestimated how much the rookies would carry their weight, and will have to book them carefully to get much use out of them, you get what you pay for as they say. The women did as well as you'd expect beautiful, hand picked women to do in a drunken bar in one of the shadiest parts of Mexico. Honestly the idea of operating out of Ciudad Juarez spooked me tremendously, I had heard about the cities reputation n the news back home, but </strong></em><em><strong><strong>Cique Jr</strong></strong></em><em><strong> was well respected around here, and would deter us from being messed with too badly. </strong></em></p><p><em><strong> </strong></em></p><p><em><strong> </strong></em></p><p><em><strong> Financially it was a great month, we made a whopping $46. Which may sound silly, but the fact that we ran a wrestling show and didn't actually lose money after paying everyone is amazing to me. I pocketed a grand total of $200 dollars for the month. Living in Mexico sure does have it's perks though, food is about half the price and you can get a full meal of tacos for about 3 USD. It's a little better than living off of </strong></em><em><em><strong>SPAM</strong></em></em><em><strong> and </strong></em><em><em><strong>Top Ramen</strong></em></em><em><strong> that's for sure. </strong></em></p><p><em><strong> </strong></em></p><p><em><strong> </strong></em></p><p><em><strong> </strong></em></p><p><em><strong> </strong></em><em><strong><strong>Mexican Hardcore Wrestling </strong></strong></em><em><strong> ran a show at the end of the month, it trounced our last showing, but their promotion also features most of the brightest young stars in Mexico and some established veterans.</strong></em><em><strong><strong> El Mitico Jr</strong></strong></em><em><strong>,</strong></em><em><strong><strong> Gino Montero</strong></strong></em><em><strong>, </strong></em><em><strong><strong>Snake King</strong></strong></em><em><strong> and others are all working there. The senile old fool </strong></em><em><strong><strong>El Critico</strong></strong></em><em><strong> booked himself to be champion, probably the only reason he made the promotion in the first place. Guy always was a mark for himself... he even managed to be outshined by a match on his undercard. Ha! his ego will sink them eventually. Just wait.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong> </strong></em></p><p><em><strong> </strong></em></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong> </strong><strong><strong>Total Bank: $200</strong></strong></p>

<p><img alt="CT2rOWg.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/CT2rOWg.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> <em>Nerves</em></p><p> </p><p> <em>Avatar never had doubted his own abilities, he had always said he needed a chance, now he had made his own. His company, his product, his staff, his wrestlers, everything from the top to the bottom was made by him, and thus he had no one to blame but himself for his success or failure.</em></p><p><em> </em></p><p><em> "Is this even possible? Maybe I should've waited another year"</em></p><p><em> </em></p><p><em> Regret had started to seep in... doubt. There was no budget, we can't afford a full staff. We have a referee and 8 wrestlers, most of them trained by one guy, most of them not even old enough to drink where I come from.</em></p><p><em> </em></p><p><em> He took a drag of his cigar.</em></p><p><em> </em></p><p><em> "Well, let's do this. I'm going to go bankrupt, but I need these people to know the name of Grand Avatar somehow and someway".</em></p><p> </p><p> <strong>Main Event</strong></p><p> </p><div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="zIhbshP.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/zIhbshP.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="font-size:18px;">LL 1</span></strong></p><p> <strong>Friday, Week 2, January 2017</strong></p><p><strong> Bar Juarez (Northern Mexico)</strong></p><p><strong> Attendance 89 of 300 </strong></p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46722" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> <img alt="T3OzgLb.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/T3OzgLb.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> <strong>Cique Jr</strong> opened the show with his usual <strong>Patriot</strong> routine the crowd absolutely ate up. He cut a promo on <strong>Doctor O'Haire</strong> talking about how he was going to win the <strong>King of Lucha Libre</strong> title for Mexico and how he would bring a stop to the evil doctors illicit activities. <strong>C-</strong> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> <strong>Opening Match </strong> </p><p> </p><p> <strong>Elsa Calvo vs Isaballa in an Evening Gown Match </strong></p><p> <img alt="yhVdWpP.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/yhVdWpP.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> VS <img alt="GBBqFRJ.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/GBBqFRJ.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> In a match primarily aimed at providing drunken, sleazy entertainment to the bar goers, Elsa Calvo did a decent job selling her <strong>Occult</strong> persona. The crowd also liked Isabella's <strong>Dancer </strong> antics. The rookie however, was overmatched and was quickly pinned by a scantily clad Elsa Calvo. <strong>D+</strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Second Match </p><p> </p><p> <strong>Fernando and Catalina Vasquez vs Alfonso Bravo and Maribel Mercado in a Mixed Tag Match</strong></p><p> </p><p> <img alt="7V4Eicx.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/7V4Eicx.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="n5XlOdA.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/n5XlOdA.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> vs <img alt="IwgbSi0.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/IwgbSi0.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="YkPgZ12.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/YkPgZ12.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> <strong>Fernando</strong> and his girlfriend <strong>Catalina Vasquez</strong> entered the ring together, smiling and hugging all the way there. <strong>Fernando</strong> was still holding his banjo all the way to the ring, before removing his sombrero and revealing his ring attire.</p><p> </p><p> For a Mixed Tag Match, the workers really gave it a go, and the match featured a ton of high spots and dives to the outside. <strong>Fernando</strong> was a natural and the crowd really believed he was an authentic <strong>Band Member</strong>, unfortunately the crowd didn't buy <strong>Catalina Vasquez</strong> as a <strong>Fan Favorite</strong> After a reasonably lengthy 15 minute match. The <strong>Arrogant Heel</strong> <strong>Maribel Mercado</strong> pinned <strong>Catalina Vasquez</strong>. The <strong>Underdog</strong> , <strong>Alfonso Bravo</strong> was more sympathetic to his opponents but was happy with the win. <strong>E-</strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46722" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><img alt="7V4Eicx.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/7V4Eicx.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="n5XlOdA.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/n5XlOdA.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="yhVdWpP.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/yhVdWpP.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> After the match, <strong> Fernando</strong> attempted to console <strong>Vasquez</strong> for her defeat, but suddenly <strong>Elsa Calvo</strong> appeared and started openly flirting with <strong>Fernando</strong>. Naturally this started a bit of a cat fight between <strong>Catalina Vasquez</strong> and <strong>Elsa Calvo</strong> before<strong> Fernando </strong>was able to separate the two. But not before <strong>Vasquez</strong> grabbed out a small handful of <strong>Calvo's</strong> hair! <strong>D</strong> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-size:14px;"><strong>Main Event</strong></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <strong>Cique Jr vs Doctor O'Haire for the King of Lucha Libre title</strong></p><p> </p><p> <img alt="T3OzgLb.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/T3OzgLb.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> vs <img alt="iRZvLPG.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/iRZvLPG.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <strong>Doctor O'Haire</strong> made his way to the ring really selling himself as the corrupt <strong>Evil Surgeon</strong> the fans hated him for it. <strong>Cique Jr</strong> definitely had the crowd's support. The main event featured a 20 minute match that stared slow and focused more on telling a story than having a classic wrestling match. At one point the referee being knocked down, <strong>Doctor O'Haire </strong>attempted to use a scalpel on<strong> Cique Jr</strong> only for <strong>Cique Jr</strong> to turn the table and hit him over the head with it. <strong>Cique </strong>Jr finished the match with a suplex into a bridge for a narrow 3 count, and looked ecstatic to be Lucha Lucha!'s first champion! Overall it was a great match and the two had great chemistry together. <strong>D</strong> .</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46722" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> <img alt="T3OzgLb.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/T3OzgLb.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> <strong>Cique Jr</strong> celebrated winning the title by climbing up to the top ropes with the title in hand. He then walked around to the bar patrons, high fiving and hugging them to enjoy his victory with his fans. <strong>D+</strong> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> <strong>Show Rating: D (Increased popularity in one Region)</strong></p>