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    The All Elite Wrestling Discussion Thread

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    My theory is that AEW's easier schedule is actually the reason for more injuries. Between WrestleMania 39 and WrestleMania 40, Cody Rhodes wrestled 129 matches. Sami Zayn clocked up 99 by my count and Finn Balor hit 96. Most of these cats in AEW are wrestling once a week or once every two weeks. I can well imagine that you get into the best possible ring shape by always being in there and taking bumps. You adjust to it and you get used to it and it's actually a problem when your body isn't going through the ringer as often as it used to be.

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    The All Elite Wrestling Discussion Thread

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    I thought Dynasty was a really strong show overall. One of those 8/10 AEW PPV's where half the matches really shine. Ospreay versus Danielson didn't pop me out my shoes but I did think it had some superb sequences. The main event was all about Swerve, Joe deserved a run and belongs in the lineage but I think we all knew he was something of a transitional champion. It was wonderful to see PAC in fine fettle and I pray he stays healthy -- he is very underrated as far as the great wrestlers of this generation go.

    I do wonder what they do next. How long can they realistically keep Ospreay out of the title scene? It seems a given he should challenge at All In but I don't know who else should challenge Swerve at Double or Nothing. Yes, Hangman, but he's 0-1-2 against Swerve haha... Not exactly a super credible challenger even though the story is there and it's all very natural.

    I'm stoked for Moxley versus Hobbs on Wednesday. It briefly crossed my mind how awesome it would be if Hobbs has a strong showing and earns himself a spot in the G1 this summer.

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    The All Elite Wrestling Discussion Thread

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    Airing the footage has made the wrestling journalists look like right fools. From monitors apparently being thrown about everywhere, to Tony being buried under monitors, to the rumour that Punk put his hands on Tony personally, to the report that Punk bloodied Perry up and beat him up badly... none of what they said happened actually happened. 😂

    If all your wrestling journo mates and all the sheeties are ragging on AEW, just remember that Tony showing the footage has made all of them look foolish. None of them reported it was a light scuffle and a bit of handbags. None of them reported that Paul Turner was the first to break it up. None of them said diddly squat about Chris Hero being on the scene either. They're all bound to be against it because the footage contradicts their reporting.

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    The All Elite Wrestling Discussion Thread

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    If they air the actual footage, that's stupid because it has to appear as though Punk deserved to be fired. If Punk just tried a guillotine that Perry easily slipped out of, nobody is going to think Tony 'feared for his life'. On the other hand, if Perry got his ass whipped they're playing a video that just absolutely buries him...

    If they air some dumb thing like The Young Bucks talking to Jack in a locker room, that's stupid because all the sheeties and journos have said this is the actual footage of the incident so then they're just doing a lame bait and switch to create a cheap promotional opportunity.

    I am trying to reserve judgment until I see the angle but right now I just think this is a lose-lose situation for AEW and it all seems really stupid to me.

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    The All Elite Wrestling Discussion Thread

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    8 hours ago, milamber said:

    Funny how the people complaining about Riho vs Willow aren't complaining about Ospreay vs Shibata. Nothing wrong with babyface vs babyface if the wrestling is good.

     

    I don't know, a lot of people are complaining about Ospreay versus Shibata now they've seen Dynamite's quarter hours haha.

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    The All Elite Wrestling Discussion Thread

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    2 hours ago, ColdBloodedSausageMaker said:

    AEW has done well to keep ratings relatively consistent with MJF off TV. 

    I have to think Riho vs. Nightengale drew viewers (relatively) well. Toni Storm and Julia Hart probably are the most over in the women's division right now, and neither were involved in that match. 

    AEW deserves major credit for keeping business stable without their biggest star.

    Uhh, no, the entire thing did absolutely terribly in the ratings.

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    The All Elite Wrestling Discussion Thread

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    21 hours ago, Jaysin said:

    Random observation while watching Collision, but I see Nigel and Tony at ringside, but their commentary seemed off. Like it was done after the show was done and they were aware of things happening ahead of time. Their commentary just doesn't seem "live" and I know the show was taped Thursday, so I wonder if something was wrong with their original commentary or am I just paying way too much attention?

    They record it and then get the commentators in the studio to do other bits. It happens (happened?) on Rampage too where Excalibur would say something that was obviously recorded after the fact and put into the show. They probably did the same with Collision.

    The All Elite Wrestling Discussion Thread

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    Sting's Final Match was absolutely perfect in my opinion. All of it, from start to finish. Five stars. Even the speech afterwards, what a guy. AEW nailed it, it was graceful, it was classy, it was brutal! But it was note perfect and even though you guys are giving Tony stick, he runs the joint. He signed off on the most beautiful retirement match you could imagine. None of us wanted to see him lose. Did anybody else notice him breathe a huge sigh of relief when it was over? Haha. Bless him. It was all so lovely for Sting, I'm positive this is exactly how he wanted to go out. 

    Revolution was a legit 9/10 wrestling show to me. Superb scenes. I'm loving AEW at the moment. They're cooking. It's so so good haha, what a time to be a wrestling fan. This and then Mania in a few weeks, it's just awesome for all of us right now.

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    The All Elite Wrestling Discussion Thread

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    On 2/9/2024 at 3:12 AM, MightyDavidson said:

    Knowing TK he'd just put the tag titles up for grabs in yet another tournament.

    I don't think that would be a bad idea. Between the apparent issues that FTR have with The Young Bucks*, the Omega injury that derailed the Golden Jets and the divided attention after the introduction of the Trios titles, I think this tag division has been in a bit of a state. Perhaps a tournament and a full reset would breathe some new life into it.

    * rumour has it that FTR refused to do the job to The Young Bucks and that's why they lost their belts to Ricky Starks & Big Bill.

    The All Elite Wrestling Discussion Thread

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    RVD ruled on Dynamite. His execution on just about everything was perfect. I need to get on this cannabis and yoga lifestyle if that's what 53-years-old is.

    Danielson versus Hechicero was awesome on Collision. I love the CMLL working relationship, they have so much talent that has never been given a stage like this one. 

    Hard to call Swerve versus Hangman. Part of me thinks Page versus Joe is the way forward but a Three Way would be super fine too.

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    The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

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    I thought the Men's Rumble was poorly put together. It was as though certain parts hadn't been considered enough.

    The Uso's are supposed to be big deals, they are part of the biggest story this company has done in years. Jey got 1 elimination in 50 minutes, Jimmy got 0 in 35 minutes. By having #3 stay for four minutes, they very quickly made both guys feel like warm bodies just there to make up the numbers. They could have done a thing where Jey chucks out #3 pretty quick, starts fighting Jimmy. Jimmy chucks out #4, starts fighting Jey. Keep it going until they both get eliminated because they're too pre-occupied with one another. Maybe Andrade could have come in at #7 to break the pattern? Or perhaps he should have come in later and been given a couple of eliminations? Instead, Andrade spent 20 odd minutes in there for zero eliminations. A non-factor really. 

    Shinsuke Nakamura is a guy they've looked to rehab with a feud against Rollins and then a programme with Cody. But he was in there for 20 minutes and ended his tenure with zero eliminations. A bit odd considering they clearly tried to make him a higher level guy last year.

    It felt like the energy and urgency only picked up towards the end because they didn't do much at all throughout the match. I know the commentary was awful but in fairness to Graves and McAfee, I'm not sure what they could really comment on. The match was designed to be a lot of nothing quite a lot of the time.

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    The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

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    4 hours ago, Wrestling Machine said:

    TF?!? Which other promotion outside WWE and AEW could have given him a multi-million dollar contract in the US? Should he have cut his paychecks and gone to the indies to make someone in the IWC happy?

    And that's not just CM Punk is something applicable to any other wrestling superstar with big name value; imagine Randy Orton leaving WWE and going to MLW for a dime lol

    All I have said is that Punk waited until AEW was a place to be to sign on. I am not saying or inferring anything else. He was probably smart to wait and it probably did his own personal brand some good. But being smart to wait doesn't not make you a bandwagoner. I still think he is one and he would probably admit that he is too.

    He got a text message from The Young Bucks in 2019 about joining AEW. Instead of replying to it, he sent a tweet about feeling disrespected by people who text him instead of showing him the proper respect by calling him. It's obvious that the way he handled this, combined with the timing of his arrival, rubbed some people the wrong way. He obviously didn't want to gamble his own reputation on AEW being a success. Maybe he was prudent to hold out but that doesn't change the timing of his arrival and the implications of it.

    3 hours ago, MightyDavidson said:

    Also his time away from the industry pretty much obliterates those "CM Punk is an egomaniac" arguments.  The man stepped out of the spotlight for seven years and not a peep was heard from him the entire time.  Hardly a man who can't stand being out of the spotlight huh?

    Apart from that Colt Cabana podcast that spawned several lawsuits, yeah, not a peep from Punk haha. I don't think he's an egomaniac, I don't think he really cares about the spotlight either. But he did do things between 2014 and 2021. He did fight in the UFC, he did do ComicCon, he did appear on WWE Backstage. He did do some acting. He didn't just do absolutely nothing at all.

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    The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

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    2 hours ago, Wrestling Machine said:

    WFT??? 😂😂😂 He refused to wrestle outside WWE for years because no other promotion was even close to his level! Be real, you can hate CM Punk all you want, but he's objectively a wrestling superstar.

    Who could have afforded him? MAYBE only NJPW could have had the "economic" means at their disposal.

    And why would CM Punk should have gone to ROH, Impact, etc.? It would have made no sense for him.

    The thing is, your post proved the point I was making haha - that Punk was too high and mighty to think he should wrestle elsewhere until AEW was firmly established on TV and very much a place to be for wrestlers. Once it was a wagon going places, that was when Punk got on for a ride. I'm not hating on the guy for pointing this out, I am pretty sure he would agree with me if he read what I have written here.

    The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

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    29 minutes ago, Dawn said:

    I would assume by grabbing the brass ring and becoming the face of the company, doing the things Punk complained about (''I'm not on the collector cups, cover of the program, barely promoted, not on the poster of Mania, not on the signature etc) but that's me seeking the explanation rather than fact.

    They put several people in that position on the card whilst Cody was off solving racism, slathering heat proof gel all over his back and trying to help make QT Marshall a thing. That torch had been passed around a lot of people before they finally handed it to Cody. And it wasn't really Punk's torch anyway, it was John Cena's and then it was Roman's.

    I thought maybe he was referring towards the growth of alternative wrestling companies and the general pro-wrestling anti-WWE revolution in the mid 2010's. But, even then, that wasn't a revolution started by Punk. He re-signed with WWE after the pipe bomb and then laid down for Triple H, that's hardly the Che Guevara of wrestling haha. He then refused to wrestle anywhere else after walking out until he found a suitable bandwagon to jump on. What a revolutionary haha.

    I thought it was a pretty crap promo all things considered. 

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