Adam Ryland Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Just a note to say that in coming patches there are going to be several small additions to the match engine, continuing the efforts to make it as complete as possible. The new additions for the July 22nd patch (not yet released due to an issue with uploading, should be up later today): - Better striking battles, as fighters who are clearly predominantly strikers will be more willing to stand and bang against opponents with superior firepower rather than trying to go with alternate attacks - The addition of judo throws from the clinch for fighters with Judo ticked in their background The new additions for the next patch after that (currently set to be released next week): - The ability to throw elbows to the top of the head from the bottom of the guard (a la Sanchez vs. Guida) - The ability to counter a rear naked choke by rolling the opponent onto his back and then spinning over to end up in his guard - Increased awareness for fighters in side control to allow them to specifically look to take the back from that position (they currently can get to the back from side control, but only as a side effect of a partially blocked attempt to get to mount). This will be predominantly for fighters who are more likely to end a fight by choke-out rather than ground-and-pound, and so therefore are more likely to prefer to take the back than the mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Ryland Posted July 25, 2009 Author Share Posted July 25, 2009 One potential change that I'll open up for discussion is the idea of adding a 30th position to the game; the one I'm thinking of is the slightly messy situation that sometimes occurs following a takedown where one fighter is down and sitting with his back wedged against the cage, with the aggressor on top with his arms grasped around either the opponent's waist or thighs, with the grounded fighter's legs between the aggressor's. It seems to happen fairly regularly (I think I remember it happened at least once during Jon Fitch's last fight), and doesn't really fit into any of the existing categories as the attacker doesn't really have mount or side control but the defender doesn't have any sort of guard. My suggestion is that this could occur only in caged environments, and only from three events; following a takedown while grappling against the cage, following a shot where the opponent was near the cage, and when the defender tried to cage walk his way back to his feet but got blocked. The attacker would have the following options: Strike Attack (Punches or Elbows), Look To Turn It To Side Control, Attempt Guillotine, Smother, Look To Turn It To Full Mount, and Stand Up (backing off). The defender would have the following options: Cage Walk, Attempt Guillotine, Attempt To Secure Guard \ Half Guard, Attempt Sweep, Weak Strike Attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlameSnoopy Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Good good good. Updates to match engines are always good, and any additions as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shigakai Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Good good good. Updates match engines are always good, and any additions as well agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javier_83 Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Thanks Adam!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoNdOn Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Quick Question. When this patch is released, will we have to start a new game to implement the new version, or will it automatically become applicable in games that already exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234 Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Cheers Adam...sound like good additions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grits207 Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 One potential change that I'll open up for discussion is the idea of adding a 30th position to the game; the one I'm thinking of is the slightly messy situation that sometimes occurs following a takedown where one fighter is down and sitting with his back wedged against the cage, with the aggressor on top with his arms grasped around either the opponent's waist or thighs, with the grounded fighter's legs between the aggressor's. It seems to happen fairly regularly (I think I remember it happened at least once during Jon Fitch's last fight), and doesn't really fit into any of the existing categories as the attacker doesn't really have mount or side control but the defender doesn't have any sort of guard. My suggestion is that this could occur only in caged environments, and only from three events; following a takedown while grappling against the cage, following a shot where the opponent was near the cage, and when the defender tried to cage walk his way back to his feet but got blocked. The attacker would have the following options: Strike Attack (Punches or Elbows), Look To Turn It To Side Control, Attempt Guillotine, Smother, Look To Turn It To Full Mount, and Stand Up (backing off). The defender would have the following options: Cage Walk, Attempt Guillotine, Attempt To Secure Guard \ Half Guard, Attempt Sweep, Weak Strike Attacks. Sounds good to me. The more possible positions the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barkflex Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Good additions, I've always felt that the standup needed some enhancement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Tomorrow Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 I have never heard of a patch where you need to restart your game... so the answer would be no I am sure to London's question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarity Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Quick Question. When this patch is released, will we have to start a new game to implement the new version, or will it automatically become applicable in games that already exist? If i remember it right, the patch will prevent any fixed bugs from happening, but if they have already happened, then you will need to restart. Match engine should be updated regardless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodzillahotrod Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 man i cant wait for against the cage add on sounds awesome i might actually get back into reading the matches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit915 Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 - The addition of judo throws from the clinch for fighters with Judo ticked in their background Are there other moves that only guys of a certain background can use? I havent really noticed it but Judo is a much more distincitive style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Ryland Posted July 26, 2009 Author Share Posted July 26, 2009 Are there other moves that only guys of a certain background can use? I havent really noticed it but Judo is a much more distincitive style. No, there aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BYU 14 Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Great additions Adam, thank you. I like your idea on the new position and agree it does happen enough to be included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzykin Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Still having issues getting it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedew Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Still having issues getting it up? Might want to rephrase that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzykin Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Might want to rephrase that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Jobs To Me Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Love the new AI booking engine, it seems to be a quantum leap forward. Most noticeably in the Title defense area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlameSnoopy Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Saw my first judo toss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luuni Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Where it can be downloaded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit915 Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I have a feeling im going to feel dumb after this is answered but where do i get the patch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 WMMA2 technical support forum. Or you can follow the link here... http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39921 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit915 Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 And yep, i feel dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pampero Firpo Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 One potential change that I'll open up for discussion is the idea of adding a 30th position to the game; the one I'm thinking of is the slightly messy situation that sometimes occurs following a takedown where one fighter is down and sitting with his back wedged against the cage, with the aggressor on top with his arms grasped around either the opponent's waist or thighs, with the grounded fighter's legs between the aggressor's. It seems to happen fairly regularly (I think I remember it happened at least once during Jon Fitch's last fight), and doesn't really fit into any of the existing categories as the attacker doesn't really have mount or side control but the defender doesn't have any sort of guard. My suggestion is that this could occur only in caged environments, and only from three events; following a takedown while grappling against the cage, following a shot where the opponent was near the cage, and when the defender tried to cage walk his way back to his feet but got blocked. The attacker would have the following options: Strike Attack (Punches or Elbows), Look To Turn It To Side Control, Attempt Guillotine, Smother, Look To Turn It To Full Mount, and Stand Up (backing off). The defender would have the following options: Cage Walk, Attempt Guillotine, Attempt To Secure Guard \ Half Guard, Attempt Sweep, Weak Strike Attacks. If I'm understanding this correctly, since the grounded fighter's legs are between the attacker's I don't think he could effectively apply a guillotine since he wouldn't have any leverage to exert pressure. Other than that, I like the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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