Rone Rivendale Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 <p>I feel like people are missing the point of the belts. It's a branding thing. They want them all to look alike so casuals will recognize them at a glance.</p><p> </p><p> I know, they don't look as good as the older belts, but it's all about the money in merch.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rone Rivendale" data-cite="Rone Rivendale" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I feel like people are missing the point of the belts. It's a branding thing. They want them all to look alike so casuals will recognize them at a glance.<p> </p><p> I know, they don't look as good as the older belts, but it's all about the money in merch.</p></div></blockquote><p> You're right about the first point, but I don't see how having every belt look so similar could possibly lead to more money from merch. Who's going to buy replicas of more than one of these titles when they're all almost identical?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mootinie Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 So uhh... AJ Styles is totally winning the WWE title at Backlash isn't he? 2016 is crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampaaage Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mootinie" data-cite="Mootinie" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So uhh... AJ Styles is totally winning the WWE title at Backlash isn't he? 2016 is crazy.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I hope. He's put on some wicked matches with the company, and with him as the top heel on SmackDown (I think he is whether he wins the belt or not) he could drag out a good match with just about anyone. I already felt like Dean's reign would end sooner than later, but after the disappointing match with Dolph I feel like it will definitely be finished at Backlash.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Avalanche Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Additionally, I think Dean's pretty dull on the microphone. The gimmick carried him a bit, but man it has been boring to listen to him drone from the guest commentary seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn michaels Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Dr_Avalanche" data-cite="Dr_Avalanche" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Additionally, I think Dean's pretty dull on the microphone. The gimmick carried him a bit, but man it has been boring to listen to him drone from the guest commentary seat.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> He is not dull, he is great, but his recent stuff has been so incredibly dull. He needs new material, its like WWE doesnt care. The whole Ambrose does not care routine only works until...well...everyone really realizes he never cares. Does not care who he faces, does not care what he does, does not care what is going on, does not care about anything. And the stuff they write for him....so dull. I really wanted Dean as champ, and i hope he has one more ppv as champ and then drops to AJ, who really needs a run...but all things considered, they should go with AJ right now. TNA must be crying hard. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lois lily Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Ambrose is someone we want to enjoy the journey with. We want to take every step with him to reach the top of the mountain and will him to do it. But once we get there with him there's nothing less. I think with Dean the thrill was in the chase. As a champ I just can't get behind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn michaels Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Ambrose is someone we want to enjoy the journey with. We want to take every step with him to reach the top of the mountain and will him to do it. But once we get there with him there's nothing less. I think with Dean the thrill was in the chase. As a champ I just can't get behind him. That could be true, but i still think he can do wonders with good material. He has good ring and mic skills, I believe his booking is not helping at all. I suppose one day we will know for sure. To me the whole "I don't care" routine gets old fast. I mean, it's wrestling. It's always personal and even when they don't care, they should really always care, if that makes sense. I dont think they ever took him seriously. I mean, even when feuding Lesnar he had to cheap shot to get a punch in the man's face. I mean...come on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampaaage Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Ambrose is someone we want to enjoy the journey with. We want to take every step with him to reach the top of the mountain and will him to do it. But once we get there with him there's nothing less. I think with Dean the thrill was in the chase. As a champ I just can't get behind him. Can't stress this enough. I'd say it's the same thing as Mankind/Mick Foley, it's great to see him get to the top of the mountain because he deserves it, but once he gets there, the only way he can stay is by changing his character, and clearly WWE creative isn't ready to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Talking Smack was great. Renee and Bryan's reactions looked legit. I love the silver SD Tag Titles and the Women's title looks better than the Universal title. I just wish they had a more cohesive naming system across the 2 brands. Ambrose is entertaining out of the ring but in the ring he's just not clicking right now. I'm not sure if it's the way his matches are scripted or if he's going through a bad patch. Hopefully AJ can get the best out of him. CNN, Fox and BBC among others have picked up the "$500 fine for Lesnar" story. LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lois lily" data-cite="lois lily" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Ambrose is someone we want to enjoy the journey with. We want to take every step with him to reach the top of the mountain and will him to do it. But once we get there with him there's nothing less. I think with Dean the thrill was in the chase. As a champ I just can't get behind him.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No even when he was defending against Seth and Roman he looked stronger than he ever did...it's just one month of bad booking is making how incredible he looked going into Battleground an after thought. The only face champ I've ever seen booked correctly was The Rock (Attitude Face Run). The man only wrestled PPVs and was made an extremely big deal when he was on TV. He would verbally spar with his opponents every week on RAW and never actually interacting in the ring with his opponents until the PPV.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoolestjedi12 Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Honestly I think they could do with turning Dean heel a few months down the line in order to shake things up and making AJ the secondary or joint top face on SD with Cena, even though AJ is a very capable heel and doing his job well, Dean could use the shake-up and a different approach to his promos and AJ would get cheers, but maybe they just need to give Ambrose some freedom to experiment with this gimmick or try to freshen up his approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayden Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 <p>Have yet to watch Smackdown but I like the look of the new titles. Keeping a similar look throughout the company is a good idea. Better than a bunch of wacky designs.</p><p> </p><p> I might be in the minority but I also like the names. While it's generic, I think it's better than coming up with something stupid like the "Universal Championship." Just my opinion though</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rone Rivendale Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 As far as Ambrose goes, just go to youtube and look up Jon Moxley promo. Dean is amazing with a mic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrippler Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 I don't know why, but Ambrose reminds me of Roddy Piper....maybe it's the "crazy" gimmick but whenever I see him, Piper is the first guy to pop in my head. I think Ambrose is great in the ring and has good mic skills, but there is something about him that I just don't like and I just can't figure it out. On a side note, did anyone like that they turned Carmella on Smackdown? I think she will be a great annoying heel....I never liked her as a face and I think the only reason she was a face was because she was linked to Enzo and Cass down in NXT. I think her feud with Nikki will be good....although I see Nikki coming out on top when Carmella should be the one to get the build from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mootinie Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 I don't know why, but Ambrose reminds me of Roddy Piper....maybe it's the "crazy" gimmick but whenever I see him, Piper is the first guy to pop in my head. I think Ambrose is great in the ring and has good mic skills, but there is something about him that I just don't like and I just can't figure it out. I'm glad I'm not the only one that just can't bring themselves to like him. I think any kind of edge he had during The Shield has been totally softened out by the WWE machine, he was at least somewhat authentic back then but the incessant need for buzz words to sell merchandise has killed any kind of counter-culture appeal he may have had. He's gone from being a wild brawler with an unconventional demeanor to wacky Dean Ambrose with the wacky line in the Ambrose Asylum!!! ...just typing that made me feel a little antsy, imagine coming up with that in a creative team meeting and being able to sleep at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 I'm glad I'm not the only one that just can't bring themselves to like him. I think any kind of edge he had during The Shield has been totally softened out by the WWE machine, he was at least somewhat authentic back then but the incessant need for buzz words to sell merchandise has killed any kind of counter-culture appeal he may have had. He's gone from being a wild brawler with an unconventional demeanor to wacky Dean Ambrose with the wacky line in the Ambrose Asylum!!! ...just typing that made me feel a little antsy, imagine coming up with that in a creative team meeting and being able to sleep at night. HE'S CRAZY, MAGGLE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 I hope we're getting a mixed tag match between Nakamura & Asuka and their next challengers. I figure they'd interact pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LigerLiger Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Final Countdown" data-cite="The Final Countdown" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>HE'S CRAZY, MAGGLE!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> AH LOVE IT!</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I hope we're getting a mixed tag match between Nakamura & Asuka and their next challengers. I figure they'd interact pretty well.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm sure they've done it at a few house shows already but they should definitely do it on TV.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 <p>Another good CWC show.</p><p> </p><p> Gulak and TJP really impressed me. Hope they get signed. Gargano is one of the best babyface wrestlers in the world right now. I'd love to see them slow build a Gargano/Ciampa feud over the NXT Championship when Nakamura is called up.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I hope we're getting a mixed tag match between Nakamura & Asuka and their next challengers. I figure they'd interact pretty well.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Anything with Asuka makes my heart melt.....</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQI13 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 No need for a Gargano/Ciampa feud. I'd like to see them keep a team for a change. On that topic, just because a team breaks up doesn't mean they need to feud. That way they can come together from time to time. I originally cringed when I saw the bracket for the tournament and they were facing each other, but glad to see the result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 SD! was a good show, but couldn't they've sold the TKO a little more. Orton came showing up spotless. And what's the deal with Nikki Bella? She showed up a clear heel, now suddenly has the face interview. Was that a heel turn? I just don't know anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 SD! was a good show, but couldn't they've sold the TKO a little more. Orton came showing up spotless. And what's the deal with Nikki Bella? She showed up a clear heel, now suddenly has the face interview. Was that a heel turn? I just don't know anymore. Nikki got a face reaction at SummerSlam (and because she has a ton of fans despite being predominantly heel) and Carmella got no reaction so they did a quick double turn. Came off a little rushed but I don't mind. Look how stubborn Vince is with turning guys like Reigns and Rollins. It's clear which show Vince is running and which show is being given creative licence to flourish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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