The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

[milamber]

<span>http://botchedspot.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2016/09/2016-09-19-new-cruiserweight-division.jpg</span>

[jwt13]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Motor" data-cite="Motor" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah, that would justify spending millions of dollars and hundreds of people losing their jobs <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't think he is going to buy it and I don't want him to but that would be a reason as to why would be for the library.</p>

[iruleall15]

The fact that the company continues to force Reigns down people throats while willingly making their World Champion look weak in the process if stupid. Im sick of Reigns. Im sick of him on my TV. He needs to go back to being jobbed. He isnt on a level like Owens so whats the point of pushing him. Im sick of it

[ThatChizzle]

Vince McMahon is a crazy business man, there is a chance that Vince is just bidding in, so everyone else has to offer more for it. Sounds like something Vince McMahon would do to mess with people.

[Mootinie]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="iruleall15" data-cite="iruleall15" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The fact that the company continues to force Reigns down people throats while willingly making their World Champion look weak in the process if stupid. Im sick of Reigns. Im sick of him on my TV. He needs to go back to being jobbed. He isnt on a level like Owens so whats the point of pushing him. Im sick of it</div></blockquote><p> I've always defended Reigns as a worker and as a promo but it is especially perplexing because all the signs point to him being a bust as a draw. They obviously don't like money and good ratings.</p><p> </p><p> But you know, nothing ever changes in WWE. The New Era is a slogan. The Diva's Revolution was a marketing campaign. The show is still ran by a McMahon, the heel champ has been hand-picked and the women still argue like children. And they continue to make hair-brained choices like putting the Cruiserweights on in the third hour.</p>

[milamber]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mootinie" data-cite="Mootinie" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've always defended Reigns as a worker and as a promo but it is especially perplexing because all the signs point to him being a bust as a draw. They obviously don't like money and good ratings.<p> </p><p> But you know, nothing ever changes in WWE. The New Era is a slogan. The Diva's Revolution was a marketing campaign. The show is still ran by a McMahon, the heel champ has been hand-picked and the women still argue like children. And they continue to make hair-brained choices like putting the Cruiserweights on in the third hour.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Agreed. The 1 silver lining is the Cruiserweights weren't watered down on Raw. Just like with NXT you can tell HHH is behind it.</p>

[Questlove]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Agreed. The 1 silver lining is the Cruiserweights weren't watered down on Raw. Just like with NXT you can tell HHH is behind it.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I just wish they'd give them the entire first hour so I can quit watching after that.</p>

[CQI13]

Probably the reason why they DIDN'T give them the entire first hour.

[Rone Rivendale]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mootinie" data-cite="Mootinie" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> and the women still argue like children. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Right, because the men totally don't do the same. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Russelrules44]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rone Rivendale" data-cite="Rone Rivendale" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Right, because the men totally don't do the same. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Face it Rone-y. Everyone argues like children sometimes. Even WE the people here at Grey Dog Software argue like babies on occasion.</p>

[mitsukaikira]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Russelrules44" data-cite="Russelrules44" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Face it Rone-y. Everyone argues like children sometimes. Even WE the people here at Grey Dog Software argue like babies on occasion.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Nuh-uh times infinity.</p>

[Crychon]

Aww... Why did they change Gran Metalik's theme? His CWC theme was so good!

[Russelrules44]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mitsukaikira" data-cite="mitsukaikira" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Nuh-uh times infinity.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Come on, don't deny it Mitsy; we've seen petty arguments here before, and we can expect them to happen again someday. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[iruleall15]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Crychon" data-cite="Crychon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Aww... Why did they change Gran Metalik's theme? His CWC theme was so good!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I could have sworn that was Sin Cara out there! Same color scheme and everything</p>

[milamber]

Smackdown wins again. And Talking Smack is essential viewing.

[Anggur Merah]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Smackdown wins again. And Talking Smack is essential viewing.</div></blockquote><p> This. Dean's Talking Smack segment is awesome this week, and Carmella's is entertaining, too.</p><p> </p><p> I wouldn't mind if The Usos win the tag titles again. Me gusta their new characters.</p><p> </p><p> ...and oh, almost forgot... #ReleaseTheBear!</p>

[Rone Rivendale]

Smackdown is winning the brand split and it's not even close.

 

And how about Miz/Ziggler being the best feud in WWE in 2016?

[RayW]

<p>Ric Flair AMA on Reddit:

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Some interesting stories here.</p>

[milamber]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Anggur Merah" data-cite="Anggur Merah" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This. Dean's Talking Smack segment is awesome this week, and Carmella's is entertaining, too.<p> </p><p> I wouldn't mind if The Usos win the tag titles again. Me gusta their new characters.</p><p> </p><p> ...and oh, almost forgot... #ReleaseTheBear!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> #ReleaseTheBear</p><p> </p><p> <span>http://whatistheexcel.com/wooobooru/_images/34d69f2db0759b95870e02fb6aa609bd/16956%20-%20The_JBL_And_Cole_Show%20bear%20crying%20kofi_kingston%20wwe.png</span></p>

[Blackman]

Smackdown is winning the brand split and it's not even close.

 

Lots of people complained the star power wasn't divided evenly, but WWE isn't stupid. That was carefully thought through and I'm sure SD! has different aims despite there being competition (which is just 'for ratings').

[milamber]

<p>Most matches wrestled in 2016:</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Dean Ambrose (WWE) - 146</strong></p><p>

Isami Kodaka (DDT) - 143</p><p>

Volador Jr. (CMLL) - 143</p><p>

<strong>Kevin Owens (WWE) - 138</strong></p><p>

YAMATO (Dragon Gate)- 136</p><p>

<strong>AJ Styles (WWE) - 134</strong></p><p>

Brahman Kei (Michinoku Pro) - 134</p><p>

Brahman Shi (Michinoku Pro) - 134</p><p>

Daisuke Sekimoto (BJW) - 134</p><p>

Ultimate Guerrero (CMLL) - 134</p>

[Big Roguey]

Now I really want to see the Brahman Brothers in WWE!

[Jaysin]

Weak show with a weak finish.

 

Only stand out match was Jericho/Zayn.

 

It seemed like every match had multiple botches.

 

Smackdown is winning the brand war by a land slide so far.

[Ayden]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Weak show with a weak finish.<p> </p><p> Only stand out match was Jericho/Zayn. </p><p> </p><p> It seemed like every match had multiple botches.</p><p> </p><p> Smackdown is winning the brand war by a land slide so far.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I thought Sheamus vs Cesaro was very good (minus the scary landing of Cesaro) and the women put in a decent effort. The last two matches definitely dragged though. </p><p> </p><p> Agreed that SD is the far superior show though</p>

[milamber]

<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>Clash of Champions:</strong></span></p><p> </p><p>

<strong>New Day vs The Club</strong> - Fun match, bad result. They wasted the last chance they had to make The Club look legit and now New Day have no worthy opponents unless they turn heel and face Enzo & Cass. And at this point Big E should be tearing up the midcard as a solo act.</p><p>

<strong>TJP vs Kendrick</strong> - Solid match but a little sloppy. The post-match attack was great. I love TJP's retro gaming entrance theme.</p><p>

<strong>Sheamus vs Cesaro</strong> - Good match, strange finish. A Best of 5 series with a definitive finish would have served both guys better.</p><p>

<strong>Zayn vs Jericho</strong> - Solid match.</p><p>

<strong>Bayley vs Sasha vs Charlotte</strong> - Solid match but too scrappy and the big boot finish was weak. I'm happy Charlotte retained. It will mean so much more when Sasha beats her 1-on-1... assuming the Dana mega babyface push rumors are false. Anyway, TNA are already doing that storyline way better with Maria and Allie.</p><p>

<strong>Rusev vs Reigns</strong> - Solid match. Reigns is finally in the midcard where he can flourish. As for Rusev, he should be pushed into the main event ASAP.</p><p>

<strong>Rollins vs Owens</strong> - Good match but the last 5 minutes of overbooking did Owens no favors.</p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Verdict:</span></strong> Solid PPV let down by some poorly booked finishes.</p>