The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

[Wrestling Century]

TLC was excellent other than what a huge pile of disappointment the Ambrose/Rollins match was. Why was it wrestled like a normal tv match, it should've been a brawl with the storyline. I don't even think it should've been a gimmick match like others are saying online, I just think it should've been an intense brawl.

[Jaysin]

So Vince’s annoucement was pretty stupid.

 

“We’re announcing that we’re in charge!”

[ThriceP86]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>Evolve 117</strong><p> </p><p> - Kassius Ohno beat Darby Allin in a great match</p><p> - Street Profits retained the Evolve Tag Team Championships against WorkHorsemen (Henry & Drake) via No Contest when the debuting Eddie Kingston rushed out and beat the crap out of everyone</p><p> - Austin Theory won the Evolve World Championship in a triple threat against former Champion Fabian Aichner and Roderick Strong with help from Priscilla Kelly</p><p> </p><p> - Johnny Gargano is back in Evolve for the January 18 and 19 shows</p><p> </p><p> <a href="https://www.cagesideseats.com/2018/...-austin-theory-fabian-aichner-roderick-strong" rel="external nofollow">https://www.cagesideseats.com/2018/...-austin-theory-fabian-aichner-roderick-strong</a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It doesn't surprise me Theory won and he has potential to be a huge star on the main roster of WWE. I'm so behind with Evolve though and still need to catch up since Evolve 100</p>

[Rone Rivendale]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So Vince’s annoucement was pretty stupid.<p> </p><p> “We’re announcing that we’re in charge!”</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Actually the announcement is that the Universe is in charge. It's a McMahon family face turn. They CLAIM they will only do what we want, and get rid of whatever we don't want.</p><p> </p><p> Remains to be seen how that works out.</p>

[milamber]

<p>Smackdown was better than Raw so nothing has changed LOL. The characters on SD are so much more interesting. The main event was good. Ali botched twice (very rare for him) but I'm sure he was nervous. I think they should move Styles to Raw after the Rumble.</p><p> </p><p>

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[Jaysin]

Actually the announcement is that the Universe is in charge. It's a McMahon family face turn. They CLAIM they will only do what we want, and get rid of whatever we don't want.

 

Remains to be seen how that works out.

 

They literally said "We're taking over control of Raw and Smackdown Live" and then said they'd be listening to the fans. They've said this before and we are still handed garbage.

 

Little salty they dropped Paige as GM though. She was the best used one they've had since Heyman, Kurt's original GM run, and Eric Bischoff.

[shawn michaels]

They literally said "We're taking over control of Raw and Smackdown Live" and then said they'd be listening to the fans. They've said this before and we are still handed garbage.

 

Little salty they dropped Paige as GM though. She was the best used one they've had since Heyman, Kurt's original GM run, and Eric Bischoff.

 

I wonder what will happen to her now? I have severe doubts when they talk about new faces and new matches. How many times did we hear this tune before?

[K-Nection]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>They literally said "We're taking over control of Raw and Smackdown Live" and then said they'd be listening to the fans. They've said this before and we are still handed garbage. <p> </p><p> Little salty they dropped Paige as GM though. She was the best used one they've had since Heyman, Kurt's original GM run, and Eric Bischoff.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You are forgetting about AJ Lee's run that was gold</p>

[Jaysin]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels" data-cite="shawn michaels" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I wonder what will happen to her now? I have severe doubts when they talk about new faces and new matches. How many times did we hear this tune before?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah I’m sure the call ups will be important when they debut but then fade-away when they’re no longer new. Really hoping EC3 is successful. Love that dude. He’s from my area. Was always super entertaining.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You are forgetting about AJ Lee's run that was gold</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I did! But I just don’t think about AJ Lee anymore haha</p>

[Mootinie]

<p>Jimmy Jacobs recently gave a really interesting, enlightening interview recently about the process being a WWE writer: <a href="https://411mania.com/wrestling/jimmy-jacobs-details-like-writing-wwe-talks-working-vince-mcmahon/" rel="external nofollow">https://411mania.com/wrestling/jimmy-jacobs-details-like-writing-wwe-talks-working-vince-mcmahon/</a></p><p> </p><p>

One thing that struck me as odd is there's a lot of going back and forth between the writers, the talent and Vince. You'd imagine the process would be more streamlined at this point given how long the show has been on the air.</p>

[milamber]

Jimmy Jacobs recently gave a really interesting, enlightening interview recently about the process being a WWE writer: https://411mania.com/wrestling/jimmy-jacobs-details-like-writing-wwe-talks-working-vince-mcmahon/

 

One thing that struck me as odd is there's a lot of going back and forth between the writers, the talent and Vince. You'd imagine the process would be more streamlined at this point given how long the show has been on the air.

 

My reaction:

 

[milamber]

NXT

 

- Io & Dakota vs Marina & Jessamyn was better than I was expecting based on house show reports but it was very basic

- I like Dijakovic's finisher but not his name

- Heavy Machinery are fun. I hope they don't buried too quick on the main roster.

- Gargano vs Black Steel Cage match was great and the ending was perfect

 

NXT UK

 

- Best match this week: Joe Coffey vs Banks

- Dawn vs Ripley ©, Andrews & Webster vs Gibson & Drake and Kelly vs Nina were also good

[K-Nection]

 

I did! But I just don’t think about AJ Lee anymore haha

 

The only reason I haven't was because during that time RAW was must see tv to me. They were firing on all cylinders at that moment. Their main event card was pretty stacked as Punk, Bryan, and Cena (who should've been a heel lol) was carrying that show with AJ as GM. A year or two later and it was an entirely different scene...

 

Good god TNA at that time was good as well (If you don't count the Claire Lynch)

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mootinie" data-cite="Mootinie" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Jimmy Jacobs recently gave a really interesting, enlightening interview recently about the process being a WWE writer: <a href="https://411mania.com/wrestling/jimmy-jacobs-details-like-writing-wwe-talks-working-vince-mcmahon/" rel="external nofollow">https://411mania.com/wrestling/jimmy-jacobs-details-like-writing-wwe-talks-working-vince-mcmahon/</a><p> </p><p> One thing that struck me as odd is there's a lot of going back and forth between the writers, the talent and Vince. You'd imagine the process would be more streamlined at this point given how long the show has been on the air.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It sounds that they over complicate, but then again, he just gives a basic idea of the process.</p>

[milamber]

<p>The epic night Mustafa Ali pinned the WWE Champion: WWE Day Of -

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Fantastic video in the style of the NXT Arrival ones with Matt Riddle.</p>

[milamber]

Raw was pretty fun for the 2nd half of a 6 hour taping. Ronda vs Natalya was PPV quality, although Ronda released the submission hold a second too early at the end. Nattie rarely gets to show off her full repertoire like that.

[milamber]

Smackdown

 

Ali vs Almas was good. Rusev beating Nakamura for the US Title was a nice Rusev Day present. Vince goading AJ into hitting him was great.

 

NXT

 

- The Women's Fatal Fourway was a little rough at times but it was fun. Shame they didn't get to main event the show. They should put a cover on the steel ramp because it looks nasty when they land on it. I thought Yim would win but Bianca deserves the chance and could easily do a babyface turn like Dream did.

- Forgotten Sons are like Sanity without personality

- Gargano vs Ricochet for the NA Title at Takevoer sounds sweet to me

- Heavy Machinery vs Undisputed Era © was good

 

NXT UK

 

- Devlin vs Williams, El Ligero vs Joe Coffey and Barthel vs Andrews were good

- Deonna vs Ripley © for the NXT UK Women's Championship was great

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Smackdown</span><p> </p><p> Ali vs Almas was good. Rusev beating Nakamura for the US Title was a nice Rusev Day present. <strong>Vince goading AJ into hitting him was great.</strong></p><p> </p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It wasn't a bad segment, but it felt forced and out of nowhere in a not so good way. It might be a good storyline to follow (and an upgrade to AJ's character) and it was a good change in pace, but the way it started was a bit creepy...and Vince totally oversold his reaction. Still, curious to see what comes out of it.</p>

[Jaysin]

<p>I feel like I’m alone in this, but Dakota Kai just looks so phony. Like she’s playing a character. She just doesn’t seem genuine.</p><p> </p><p>

The Black/Gargano match bugged me. Black had a chance to win, but climbed back down. Gargano had at least two chances to win and didn't take them. The DIY reunion would have been better at a Takeover. Great effort from Gargano and Black, but I dunno. The dumb story telling just bothers me.</p><p> </p><p>

Why wasn’t there any commentary for Jaxson Ryker’s match?</p>

[milamber]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I feel like I’m alone in this, but Dakota Kai just looks so phony. Like she’s playing a character. She just doesn’t seem genuine.<p> </p><p> The Black/Gargano match bugged me. Black had a chance to win, but climbed back down. Gargano had at least two chances to win and didn't take them. The DIY reunion would have been better at a Takeover. Great effort from Gargano and Black, but I dunno. The dumb story telling just bothers me.</p><p> </p><p> Why wasn’t there any commentary for Jaxson Ryker’s match?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm a big fan of Dakota but she isn't the greatest actress.</p><p> </p><p> Black wanted to punish Gargano and put an end to the feud. He said in a promo that after their first match Gargano was beyond absolution or something to that effect.</p><p> </p><p> Ryker botched the rebound powerbomb so they had to retape it a couple of times. I fast-forwarded the whole match so I'm unsure if that explains the lack of commentary.</p>

[Guest SymonBC]

I like Dakota Kai! she has style <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

[milamber]

Smackdown finally beat Raw in the ratings! Well deserved.

[Rone Rivendale]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Smackdown finally beat Raw in the ratings! Well deserved.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Vince is going to be PISSED</p>

[Blackman]

It's good that both shows are more of less 'equal' now. Plus we get the women's tag titles (as predicted). Here's hoping for a cross-brand tourney for it.

[milamber]

Smackdown was very entertaining and they didn't even use Bryan.

 

First contender for WWE Moment of the 2019: