The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

[Jaysin]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rickymex" data-cite="Rickymex" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>PMS Sisters and the stable with Victoria, Candice Michelle and some other chick who flirted with vince</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Torrie Wilson isn't "some other chick" who flirted with Vince <img alt=":mad:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/mad.png.69834f23b9a8bf290d98375f56f1c794.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p><p> </p><p> They were called Vince's Devils.</p>

[Rickymex]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Torrie Wilson isn't "some other chick" who flirted with Vince <img alt=":mad:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/mad.png.69834f23b9a8bf290d98375f56f1c794.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> They were called Vince's Devils.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I was on my phone and wasn't watching during that time period so I was thinking it from a few youtube videos i had seen.</p>

[JackKnifed72]

P.M.S. - Pretty Mean Sisters were Terri (Runnells), Jacqueline & Ryan Shamrock

[Jaysin]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rickymex" data-cite="Rickymex" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I was on my phone and wasn't watching during that time period so I was thinking it from a few youtube videos i had seen.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Torrie was in WCW as well. She was also married to Billy Kidman as well.</p>

[Rickymex]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Torrie was in WCW as well. She was also married to Billy Kidman as well.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I know who Torrie Wilson is the point is that I didn't remember who was the third member of the group.</p>

[milamber]

<p><strong>Smackdown Highlights:</strong></p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Good Stuff</strong> - Wyatt Family vs Usos. Del Rio putting Cena through a table with a spinebuster after the lame arm wrestling. Punk & Bryan vs Axel & Ryback (which ended with the Wyatts beating down Axel & Ryback after The Beard & The Best outsmarted them).</p><p>

<strong>OK Stuff</strong> - Truth & PTP vs The Union Jacks</p><p>

<strong>Filler</strong> - Natalya vs Tamina. Bellas vs Funkadactyls. Khali vs Camacho & Hunico (I did say they should be on Smackdown but I didn't mean jobbing to Khali <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />).</p>

[Jaysin]

<p>Just read <a href="http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/publish/shoreeditorials/article10034372.shtml" rel="external nofollow">this review </a>of Smackdown...OUCH.</p><p> </p><p> For the lazy.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>By Chris Shore<p> </p><p> <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline">WWE Smackdown Hits</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong>Nothing:</strong> It has been a long, long time since there was nothing worth seeing on any wrestling show, but Smackdown managed to reach those depths with this episode. The show failed to hype Survivor Series in any meaningful way. The segments that tried to hype the show failed miserably, and there was a long replay of the terrible opening segment from Monday's Raw. The only reason to even watch this show is to see how bad a wrestling show can be even for WWE.</p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline">WWE Smackdown Misses</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong>The Wyatts:</strong> WWE is starting to do some damage to my interest level with the Wyatts and I can't be the only one. What started off as a surprising and hot feud with CM Punk and Daniel Bryan has turned into a lackluster and virtually meaningless matchup. The family looked good in their match with the Usos, but the match did nothing to add heat to the act, and any good done there was wiped out when the babyfaces made them look like complete dopes in the main event segment. Punk and Bryan have had their was far too often with the family since that initial attack, and it has pummeled the feud to an almost dead state.</p><p> </p><p> <strong>CM Punk and Daniel Bryan:</strong> On the other side of the coin, the babyfaces haven't given us anything to sink our teeth into either. Bryan and Punk did a promo on this show that was so big of a miss they came across as mid-card players and not the (arguably) two hottest stars in the company. I'm not sure if they are being given crap to work with of they just recognize how poorly this is being booked and are having a hard time getting up for it, but the only announced match for Survivor Series that has any juice behind it is bleeding heat at an astronomical rate, and it's on both sides of the feud.</p><p> </p><p> <strong>John Cena vs. Alberto Del Rio arm wrestling:</strong> Putting aside the stupidity of the arm wrestling concept, and putting aside the lack of an actual arm wrestling table, and putting aside that Del Rio's Mexican bit doesn't carry the same weight in Europe as it does in America, this was a terrible segment. Cena looked like a dope for falling into the attack of the second arm wrestling attempt, and Del Rio looks like a chump for having Cena beat him in 0.0000001 microseconds on the first attempt. The table spot at the end pretty much guarantees we see a TLC or table match with these two next month, and I have no idea how they keep any interest in this feud for that long considering its sorry state right now.</p><p> </p><p> <strong>Filler matches: </strong>Great Khali vs. Hunico and Camacho? R-Truth and the Prime Time Players vs. the Union Jacks/3MB? Two Divas matches? Does WWE not realize they have a PPV to sell? Sure, Natalya vs. Tamina can be directly tied to an expected PPV match, but the segment was so short and moved on from so quickly that it had no effect. I realize Smackdown is the "B show" but surely to god they could have built something for Survivor Series on this show. Or at the very least they could have done something interesting.</p></div></blockquote>

[Rickymex]

Considering how exhausting the tour has been with cm punk and John cena supposedly getting injury scares and aj lee collapsing smack down was a throwaway show. Considering the wee title match is between Randy Orton and big show they really don't care about selling it.

[milamber]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>By Chris Shore<p> </p><p> WWE Smackdown Hits</p><p> </p><p> Nothing: It has been a long, long time since there was nothing worth seeing on any wrestling show, but Smackdown managed to reach those depths with this episode. The show failed to hype Survivor Series in any meaningful way. The segments that tried to hype the show failed miserably, and there was a long replay of the terrible opening segment from Monday's Raw. The only reason to even watch this show is to see how bad a wrestling show can be even for WWE.</p><p> </p><p> WWE Smackdown Misses</p><p> </p><p> The Wyatts: WWE is starting to do some damage to my interest level with the Wyatts and I can't be the only one. What started off as a surprising and hot feud with CM Punk and Daniel Bryan has turned into a lackluster and virtually meaningless matchup. The family looked good in their match with the Usos, but the match did nothing to add heat to the act, and any good done there was wiped out when the babyfaces made them look like complete dopes in the main event segment. Punk and Bryan have had their was far too often with the family since that initial attack, and it has pummeled the feud to an almost dead state.</p><p> </p><p> CM Punk and Daniel Bryan: On the other side of the coin, the babyfaces haven't given us anything to sink our teeth into either. Bryan and Punk did a promo on this show that was so big of a miss they came across as mid-card players and not the (arguably) two hottest stars in the company. I'm not sure if they are being given crap to work with of they just recognize how poorly this is being booked and are having a hard time getting up for it, but the only announced match for Survivor Series that has any juice behind it is bleeding heat at an astronomical rate, and it's on both sides of the feud.</p><p> </p><p> John Cena vs. Alberto Del Rio arm wrestling: Putting aside the stupidity of the arm wrestling concept, and putting aside the lack of an actual arm wrestling table, and putting aside that Del Rio's Mexican bit doesn't carry the same weight in Europe as it does in America, this was a terrible segment. Cena looked like a dope for falling into the attack of the second arm wrestling attempt, and Del Rio looks like a chump for having Cena beat him in 0.0000001 microseconds on the first attempt. The table spot at the end pretty much guarantees we see a TLC or table match with these two next month, and I have no idea how they keep any interest in this feud for that long considering its sorry state right now.</p><p> </p><p> Filler matches: Great Khali vs. Hunico and Camacho? R-Truth and the Prime Time Players vs. the Union Jacks/3MB? Two Divas matches? Does WWE not realize they have a PPV to sell? Sure, Natalya vs. Tamina can be directly tied to an expected PPV match, but the segment was so short and m</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I agree about the filler matches but the rest of review <img alt=":confused:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> The arm wrestling was crap but Cena taking a spinebuster through a table from Del Rio was great. Made Del Rio look dangerous and should have pleased all the Cena haters.</p><p> </p><p> The Wyatts are actually in legit tag matches now and beating down the likes of Ryback. Their booking has improved since the useless Kane storyline ended. I predict the Wyatts to win at SS and Bryan & Punk will get revenge at TLC.</p>

[EddieFnG]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Torrie was in WCW as well. She was also married to Billy Kidman as well.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> And she's now dating Alex Rodriguez. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[djthefunkchris]

<p>When reviews start talking about lack of hype for a PPV, I just don't take them seriously afterward. It has no bearing on how entertaining the show "is" right now. Plus, it's as if these reviewers have ton's more experience on how to "sell" a PPV as opposed to WWE (or TNA for that matter). It's just a silly way, in my opinion, to say something bad about something that is totally irrelevant to the show in question.</p><p> </p><p>

Not that I found Fridays Smackdown very entertaining, but it had nothing to do with lack of hype for a PPV. Smackdown has always been the more action packed show out of the two "A" shows for me. This one lacked in quite a few area's, and I'm not going to say I disagree with everything that reviewer said. It's just annoying for these reviewers to use non-relevant points (in my opinion), to say how much WWE sucks.</p>

[milamber]

<p>Best wallpaper ever <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

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[jjohns44]

<p>Opening segment confused me. First off, did you catch Orton missing what he was supposed to say? HHH asks 'who the hell do you think you're talking to?' Orton zays'"the wwe champion and face of this company!" And going off all of this storyline it's been a confusing mess as to 'who is who' from last week and this week with Orton stepping up to the bosses and then aligning with them and finding himself at ends with them and the shield. Is he tweenering on us here?</p><p>

And then the GM mess, they're heels yet being treated as faces by being punished by the bosses and the commentators were actually getting on the side of Triple H and Stephanie for that bit. When commentators are "fair" they get on the side of the faces while it would be want to seem like I'm being a sheep fan who cheers faces and boos heels, because I am not, but it is so much a part of WWE to have that 'hero and villain' tradition its just not their style. Are they now deciding to try to break from their normal setup and feature wrestlers who just go around causing trouble with anyone no matter if it's a face or heel (Wyatts attacking Ryback for instance and then breaking Axel/Ryback away from Heyman.)</p><p> </p><p>

It was cool to see Big E. win the IC title! So long Axel see ya back on Superstars haha. But he celebrated like an old school champ, and the way that celebration makes me interested in what he does for the belt. Some of these champs win the belt and don't put any emotion into the win, Langston actually made it look worthy...</p>

[Rickymex]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jjohns44" data-cite="jjohns44" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Opening segment confused me. First off, did you catch Orton missing what he was supposed to say? HHH asks 'who the hell do you think you're talking to?' Orton zays'"the wwe champion and face of this company!"</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It was Triple H that botched his line. </p><p> </p><p> HHH: "Who do you think you are?"</p><p> RKO: "The WWE Champion and face of this company!"</p><p> HHH: "I think you meant to say OUR company."</p><p> </p><p> The lines flow to easily for Randy Orton to have been the one who made the mistake and considering how strong Randy said those words he knew that his line was part of the script.</p><p> </p><p> What I found disgusting the the Vickie Guerrero fainting and dehydration things. For those that don't know AJ Lee collapsed during the middle of a match during the European tour due to dehydration and the is WWE just being the bullies they are by mocking the situation. I won't say it was offensive but to me it was just distasteful and did nothing to help the segment. I didn't mind the use of Paul Bearer in the Taker/Punk feud because it added to the storyline but if it's just to mock someone qithout plot advancement there is not reason for it.</p>

[Dawn]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Torrie Wilson isn't "some other chick" who flirted with Vince <img alt=":mad:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/mad.png.69834f23b9a8bf290d98375f56f1c794.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"><p> </p><p> They were called Vince's Devils.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Agreed. A shame that she didn't had that much success in the WWE...</p>

[Killagy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Smasher1311" data-cite="Smasher1311" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Agreed. A shame that she didn't had that much success in the WWE...</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Her lack of wrestling skill was the reason for it, plus her waning interest in pro wrestling in general as her career was winding down. Honestly though, Stacy Kiebler had more talent than her, and Candice Michelle atleast showed a bit of potential when she was handed the ball to run as Women's Champion. At the time I felt Candice had a legit shot of helping fill the void left by Lita and Trish if she only continued to focus on improving, but then the broken collarbone injury happened (during her match with Beth Phoenix) if I'm not mistaken and things went downhill from there.</p>

[3rdStringPG]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Smasher1311" data-cite="Smasher1311" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And the heel turn was a short one guys <img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> - As seen at the WWE live event in Belfast earlier this week, The Miz turned heel and cut a promo on the fans before losing to Kofi Kingston. Word is that the heel turn was just for this tour of Europe because they were short on heels. Miz will likely be back to working as a babyface on WWE TV next week.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Turns out it was a primer for what he did on RAW last night. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> I've never been a fan of The Miz, either as a heel or as a face (ESPECIALLY as a face), but the more I think about it, I'm somehow interested by his recent heel turn. </p><p> </p><p> EDIT - Did some backreading and watched the Belfast promo on YouTube. Wonder if that's also what creative will be using when he justifies the heel turn...</p>

[milamber]

<p><strong>Raw Highlights:</strong></p><p> </p><p>

<strong>The Good</strong> - Orton beating the crap out of Maddox. Big E beating Axel for the IC Title. Real Americans vs Kofi & Heel Miz (Cesaro Section!). Ziggler vs Sandow musical street fight. 30 minute 12-man tag match.</p><p>

<strong>The OK</strong> - Ryback vs Big Show. Cena promo. Xavier Woods debut. Booyaka Booyaka 619!</p><p>

<strong>The Crap</strong> - Big E's remixed theme. Divas musical chairs. AJ vs Vicki. Country music overload.</p>

[lazorbeak]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Smasher1311" data-cite="Smasher1311" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Agreed. A shame that she didn't had that much success in the WWE...</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You're kidding, right? I mean she was only in the company for 8 years.</p>

[BobbyRogers]

<p>Regarding RAW, it was solid and hyped the PPV, so I will def watch for free Sunday.</p><p> </p><p>

The main event was awesome, and Ryback vs Big Show was actually not a train wreck. Zig vs Damien was good.</p><p> </p><p>

The crapfest was Vicki, Divas, and too much country for sure. I didn't like the Orton segments. If he's a heel and we're supposed to be rooting for babyface Bryan, why should we care if HHH makes things harder for him by not allowing the Shield to protect Orton?</p><p> </p><p>

My main problem with booking is that I take months off from watching a whole episode (I just watch some Youtube clips of hot angles if I remember) and when I tune in it's so pathetic how the guys who had the pushes and momentum don't get interview time or get jobbed out, in addition to characters turning.</p><p> </p><p>

My main shocks was AJ being cheered, Ziggler being midcard, The New Americans, Ryback jobbing clean, Del Rio being heel, Axel not with Heyman and dropping the belt to babyface Big E (who is not with AJ). As far as the Miz turning again, no it's not something that excites me. He really lost his heat after he beat Cena at WM and has never been the same. In other words, I believe frequent turns and loss of momentum really kills characters. Couple that with guys acting like tweeners and it's very confusing.</p>

[Tha Black Phenom]

 

The crapfest was Vicki, Divas, and too much country for sure. I didn't like the Orton segments. If he's a heel and we're supposed to be rooting for babyface Bryan, why should we care if HHH makes things harder for him by not allowing the Shield to protect Orton?

 

To create a barrier between both of them, despite both being heels. It's kind of like asking why did that alpha male babyface who's feuding a heel, perform his finisher on a lesser babyface, aren't we supposed to root for him.

 

Mind you, I agree with the rest of your post, it's been my main gripe about WWE for years though I'm not fussed with what they allowed Bryan to do this year.

[Jaysin]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>-- According to a listing on Amazon, WWE is planning to release a Best of WCW PPV Matches DVD. Details are limited, but the set is listed as having an eight-hour run time. More details as they become available.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Anyone have any guesses on what's included?</p><p> </p><p> Off the top of my head I'm guessing Eddie Guerrero vs Rey Misterio Jr from Halloween Havoc 1997 will be on it. </p><p> </p><p> Hopefully Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon from Starrcade 1996. I also remember loving Eddie Guerrero vs DDP from the same Starrcade.</p>

[Russelrules44]

<p>I actully have 2 things to say.</p><p> </p><p> Bret Hart vs Chris Benoit for the World Title- This damn sure better be on it for what it's worth.</p><p> </p><p> Goldberg vs Hulk Hogan for the World Title- While this damn sure wasn't a technical classic, It did mark a changing of the tides in WCW.</p><p> </p><p> And this....</p><p> </p><p> What I Hope Will Be in the TLC Card this year.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Main Events<p> </p><p> Daniel Bryan vs Big Show vs Randy Orton in a ladder match for the WWE title and if Daniel Bryan loses, he can never get a title shot again for as long as Randy Orton is employed.</p><p> </p><p> John Cena vs Damien Sandow in a Tables Match for the WHC</p><p> </p><p> Undercard</p><p> </p><p> Big E Langston vs The Miz for the IC title</p><p> </p><p> Ryback vs Kane in a Reputation-Career match, if Ryback loses, Ryback will have to give up his name, if Kane loses, he MUST retire.</p><p> </p><p> The Rhodes Brothers vs The Usos vs The Shield.........AND The Real Americans for the WWE Tag Team titles.....in a TLC Match!</p><p> </p><p> Filler</p><p> Xavier Woods vs Heath Slater and Drew McIntyre </p><p> </p><p> Rey Mysterio vs Sin Cara in a "May the better man win" match.</p><p> </p><p> Kaitlyn vs AJ Lee in the first ever divas tlc match!......For the Divas title......oh yeah, And one more thing, If Kaitlyn loses, she can't get another title shot as long as AJ Lee holds the gold.</p><p> </p><p> Preshow</p><p> </p><p> Los Matadores and Tons of Funk vs Fandango, Jinder Mahal, Curtis Axel and Curt Hawkins</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That good?</p>

[Dawn]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lazorbeak" data-cite="lazorbeak" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You're kidding, right? I mean she was only in the company for 8 years.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's nothing about the time she stayed on the company. It's what Killagy said. She was f'n hot, but she had simply no wrestling skills.</p>

[Dawn]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Russelrules44" data-cite="Russelrules44" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I actully have 2 things to say.<p> </p><p> Bret Hart vs Chris Benoit for the World Title- This damn sure better be on it for what it's worth.</p><p> </p><p> Goldberg vs Hulk Hogan for the World Title- While this damn sure wasn't a technical classic, It did mark a changing of the tides in WCW.</p><p> </p><p> And this....</p><p> </p><p> What I Hope Will Be in the TLC Card this year.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> That good?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The card looks good but CURT HAWKINS in a PPV nowadays? You high?</p>