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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Basmat01" data-cite="Basmat01" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Although I dont care that taker lost the streak I felt it did kill the momentum of the PPV the crowd just wasnt that hot after that. I didnt think Daniel got that much of a pop the second time around. but seriously the Divas match after the taker match?<p> </p><p> I thought the taker match was the worst of the night not because of taker but because of Brock seriously bloke ever thought about doing some cardio? the guy was seriously gassed 6 min into the match. Taker is what 49? he shouldnt be expected to carry the whole match. Taker has relied on who he has faced to help put up the load. Seriously Brock they were some pretty weak German Suplexes.</p><p> </p><p> I felt for Orton when he landed on the monitor when doing the RKO.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Orton's a warrior I felt he carried the match because Batista gets gassed walking to the ring and they had to play up the Daniel Bryan injury. At first I thought Orton was seriously hurt when he landed on the monitor but he was still good afterwards the main event was better than I expected would have been better if Orton or Batista won. I only say that because how can you expect people to buy into Brock vs. Daniel Bryan.</p>
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Oh yeah, I know we're all going to be talking about 'Taker for the next couple of days, but can we just take a moment to show some appreciation for Cesaro? :p A great moment for a legit superstar in the making. Usually, the guys that lift Show lift him on their shoulders which - ask any weight lifter - is a lot easier than using pure arm strength, but Cesaro lifted him in the body slam position and actually took a couple of steps which is just bonkers. He's potentially the guy I'm most looking forward to seeing which direction the 'E takes him in in the next couple of weeks because after this, I'd expect a push of sorts.
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Basmat01" data-cite="Basmat01" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I do feel it should of been given to someone alittle more deserving someone they could of use it as the next step into the main event. I dont think Brock really needed it I mean he shows 5 times a year and really couldnt give a shit about wrestling.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jwt13" data-cite="jwt13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not when the 49 year old is the toughest/most feared man in WWE (kayfabe wise) even getting older.<p> </p><p> My main thing is why have a old part time wrestler end the streak? Roman Reigns could have, or someone along those lines a young wrestler needing that one thing added to his name.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I agree with you both that they could have picked someone better. I did like the shock value of this and that is what I most liked about it. Nothing to do with being a fan of Lesnar or thinking he deserves it.</p>
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<p>I enjoyed some of the show though, with said...</p><p> </p><p>

Triple H and DB had the best match of the night</p><p> </p><p>

Hogan is still as botchtastic as ever and I loved it.</p><p> </p><p>

Seth Rollins will be the next HBK</p><p> </p><p>

Having Taker lose to Lesnar was just terrible terrible booking</p><p> </p><p>

We saw the birth of a legend in the Andre battle royal.</p><p> </p><p>

I don't really like Bryan but I'll give him a little reign with the belt. I see him losing it in a month or too.</p>

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Am I the only one who actually liked the Divas match? or Was everyone still in shock about what just happened? I mean sure the match was short and mostly person b hits move on person a, then person c hit move on person b, and so on. But it was fun and the ending was great.
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Yeah honestly after years of Attitude era nostalgia, WWE finally has a way of keeping the Attitude era alive via the network, so hopefully we can finally move on. Seriously, Attitude era guys record tonight? 0-3, 0-4 if you count Big Show being tossed in the battle royale last. WM29 had Kane, Triple H, and Undertaker going over (Jericho, Rock, and Big Show lost), 28 had Big Show, Kane, Undertaker, and Rock going over, and it goes on like that. 1999 was 15 years ago. It's time to finally give moments to the Cesaro's and the Daniel Bryan's and Bray Wyatt's of the world.
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jwt13" data-cite="jwt13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't this you understand people I never even knew watched wrestling are pissed, with Daniel Bryan it was all the IWC nerds, this is touching <strong>real</strong> wrestling fans. <p> </p><p> There is no good out of Taker losing at all.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="dpoolez" data-cite="dpoolez" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Wrestling fans are a more loyal fanbase then they are given credit for. If wrestling fans can stick with the WWE through the constant Bryan screwjobs and his not entering the rumble, then they will get over a broken down old undertaker finally losing.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Basmat01" data-cite="Basmat01" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I do feel it should of been given to someone alittle more deserving someone they could of use it as the next step into the main event. I dont think Brock really needed it I mean he shows 5 times a year and really couldnt give a shit about wrestling.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jwt13" data-cite="jwt13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not when the 49 year old is the toughest/most feared man in WWE (kayfabe wise) even getting older.<p> </p><p> My main thing is why have a old part time wrestler end the streak? Roman Reigns could have, or someone along those lines a young wrestler needing that one thing added to his name.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> What good comes from him winning?</p><p> </p><p> Brock is old and washed up. He won't come back full time. There are younger BETTER guys who could have been given a push, but again WWE has talent they don't want to push.</p><p> </p><p> Just like</p><p> </p><p> Bray not beating Cena. That would have been big.</p><p> </p><p> Now what makes the fans believe they could....blah blah blah. WWE is an entertainment. Without fans they have nothing. Doing things to stir up the fans is fine, but taking a role model, hero, and legend to so many thousands and pretty much job him to a guy like Brock you spit in your fans faces. This streak has been going for 22 years. Longer than some of you have been alive. Many people looked up to this guy and adored him. You guys call yourselves Marks and all, but when you follow a career and streak for 22 years and see it ended in a below average anti climatic way to a guy who will do nothing for the company then you can be pissed at the slap in the face.</p><p> </p><p> True Taker fans would have liked to see him pass the torch to someone who deserves it.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="masterded" data-cite="masterded" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Am I the only one who actually liked the Divas match? or Was everyone still in shock about what just happened? I mean sure the match was short and mostly person b hits move on person a, then person c hit move on person b, and so on. But it was fun and the ending was great.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I did, They all got some really good moves in insted of the same old slap, pull hair, punch, girly kick, spring board elbow and maybe someone would do a moonsault. Cameron broke her top and still did her spots with Emma while trying to keep her boobs from falling out lol</p>
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<p>Did anyone actually see Undertaker losing to Lesnar tonight? Bryan getting put over twice in one night, especially with his finish being protected, really cemented to him being the 1B guy, at least for now. Cena could turn heel soon hypothetically if they believe Bryan's the guy of the future. Especially if Cena's fans start buying into Bryan's shtick, which I think they are. It's not like Cena's going to beat Ric Flair's World Title record with Triple H running the show. It really doesn't leave Cena much else to do when he's the top babyface.</p><p> </p><p>

Also, how many times has Undertaker put over Lesnar lol? Seriously, Lesnar's made a career out of beating Taker. I felt this one of the best Wrestlemania's I've ever watched, can't wait for tomorrow's Raw, which is a must watch.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jwt13" data-cite="jwt13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Seth Rollins will be the next HBK</div></blockquote><p> Really? I think he's a very talented wrestler but he doesn't have anywhere near the charisma that Shawn Michaels had/has. He has worked well with The Shield (but Dean Ambrose carries much of the charisma/microphone skills) but as I think we saw in both ROH as their World Champion and in NXT as the NXT Champion, he's not the most charismatic and I think he'll be the one to suffer the most when they eventually disband.</p><p> </p><p> I think Bray Wyatt would have been the perfect guy to end the streak. He's obviously a guy WWE have a lot of trust in and are looking to build, he could have done a great build up with 'Taker with both of them being from the same vein in terms of dark/sinister characters and I think he needs something to re-establish him as a heel. As much as I enjoyed seeing the crowd start to sing "He's got the whole world, in his hands..." I'm pretty sure that's not what the plan is for the Wyatt Family.</p>
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<p>I thought it was a pretty good 'Mania altogether. Probably the best one I've watched that wasn't years after the fact (WM 23 was my first "live" 'Mania). With The Streak being broken, I don't think it will kill business for WWE or anything, but the match itself was a pretty crappy way for someone like the Undertaker to go out on. It just seemed to me like Lesnar had no idea what he was doing at points and Taker came off as an old man who just needs to retire instead of, you know, the freakin' Undertaker. </p><p> </p><p>

And I don't think they really had a choice about throwing the divas to the lions, it was that or having the main event right after something so emotional and disorienting. I still feel bad for those poor women, it didn't matter how good of a match they had no one was going to care.</p><p> </p><p>

I enjoyed the rest of the show though, particularly Cena vs Wyatt and the main event. It's kind of weird to see a Ring of Honor guy holding the WWE and World titles at the end of WrestleMania, but a good kind of weird. I also hope Orton's okay after landing back first on that monitor.</p><p> </p><p>

Edit: I almost forgot about how happy I was to see Cesaro win the battle royal, I was a big fan of the Kings of Wrestling and I'm happy to see him and his freakish strength being shown off at the biggest PPV of the year.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="delv213" data-cite="delv213" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Did anyone actually see Undertaker losing to Lesnar tonight? Bryan getting put over twice in one night, especially with his finish being protected, really cemented to him being the 1B guy, at least for now. Cena could turn heel soon hypothetically if they believe Bryan's the guy of the future. Especially if Cena's fans start buying into Bryan's shtick, which I think they are. It's not like Cena's going to beat Ric Flair's World Title record with Triple H running the show. It really doesn't leave Cena much else to do when he's the top babyface.<p> </p><p> Also, how many times has Undertaker put over Lesnar lol? Seriously,<strong> Lesnar's made a career out of beating Taker</strong>. I felt this one of the best Wrestlemania's I've ever watched, can't wait for tomorrow's Raw, which is a must watch.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> they havernt faced each other in like 10 years.</p>
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<p>Taker clearly can't go anymore, he looked awful tonight. The feud wasnt good at all but Lesnar is as good of an option to end the streak as anyone. You can't waste it on someone who won't pan out, and if Taker was this bad this year imagine how bad it would be next year. He simply can't go anymore and needed to be put out of his misery.</p><p> </p><p>

 

</p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="113" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/gjhisAvCfOY?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Bad News Barrett has some bad news."></iframe></div></div>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mammoth" data-cite="Mammoth" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Really? I think he's a very talented wrestler but he doesn't have anywhere near the charisma that Shawn Michaels had/has. He has worked well with The Shield (but Dean Ambrose carries much of the charisma/microphone skills) but as I think we saw in both ROH as their World Champion and in NXT as the NXT Champion, he's not the most charismatic and I think he'll be the one to suffer the most when they eventually disband.<p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think he will improve in that, I think Ambrose will struggle because of how he over sells everything, it's just not my cup of tea.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Taker clearly can't go anymore, he looked awful tonight. The feud wasnt good at all but Lesnar is as good of an option to end the streak as anyone. You can't waste it on someone who won't pan out, and if Taker was this bad this year imagine how bad it would be next year. He simply can't go anymore and needed to be put out of his misery.<p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="113" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/gjhisAvCfOY?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Bad News Barrett has some bad news."></iframe></div></div></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Taker still has it, it was just a bad style contrast and it turned into a old AWA type psychology battle that I enjoyed until the end.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Taker clearly can't go anymore, he looked awful tonight. The feud wasnt good at all but Lesnar is as good of an option to end the streak as anyone. You can't waste it on someone who won't pan out, and if Taker was this bad this year imagine how bad it would be next year. He simply can't go anymore and needed to be put out of his misery.<p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="113" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/gjhisAvCfOY?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Bad News Barrett has some bad news."></iframe></div></div></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Huh, shame that wasn't a promo for Barrett facing Taker.</p>
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<p>Overall good show from the Silverdome. <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

I felt that whomever won the HHH/Bryan Match was winning the title(s) at the end of the night and there were potential story hooks for both guys going forward. I'm not much of a Yes Movementer, but I have nothing against the guy. The Shield match was fun as short as it was, but a nice way to get younger guys out there to the less hardcore fans. Loved Bray's entrance and the way the band was outfitted so props to them. Probably my favorite entrance of the night. Disappointed that Bray lost, not unexpected though as it was Cena he was up against. They did however tell one heck of a story in that ring and I feel that should the fates be kind, Bray will one day be a solid main eventer. The Diva's surprised me as there were some rather decent spots in that match and it shows their growth, of special note was the Bella's suicide dive to the outside as I wasn't expecting that. The Main Event turned out as I expected it to, to be honest. The Lesner/Taker match however, surprised me. I'm not the least upset, because Taker is OLD for a wrestler and in the most recent Mania's I've been almost apprehensive watching his match because I'm not rooting for him to win so much as rooting for him to not cause himself a life altering injury.</p><p> </p><p>

Overall I give the show a solid A. There were ups and downs all night and at the end the heroes reign supreme for the night. I can live with that.</p>

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The Undertaker looked every bit his age the last 5 fight 2 with HBK, 2 with HHH, and last year with Punk he didn't have to carry the matches this year he did and couldn't It is time to move on I am glad it was Brock it made sense since he wants the title how can he not be the top contender when you end the streak would of been better if it was Roman Reigns.
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<p>I was predicting a swerve tonight but not to the Streak.</p><p> </p><p>

Was in shock at the time but in the end really doesn't matter. Streak match itself wasn't too bad I thought, it was a slow build but the commentary didn't help. </p><p> </p><p>

It definitely subdued the feeling of Bryan winning, but RAW will be massive tomorrow. Expecting Rusev to break out, and Bryan to feud with Brock I reckon. Don't think Bryan will hold the belt for long, month or two at most.</p><p> </p><p>

Tonight's opening was simply amazing, and I thought Streak apart, booking was spot on. Wanted Bray to win but feeling from the PPV wouldn't be the same if it was all so predictable. Felt sorry for the Divas and especially with AJ winning as I think her reign is hurting the division now. But considering what went before that it really went under the radar. </p><p> </p><p>

Also - props to WWE for keeping the Network alive. I was a few seconds behind I think tonight but had no glitches whatsoever.</p><p> </p><p>

A Grade Show for me, WWE have won my interest back (for good I think) after been away about 9 years coming back in December <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

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