Macca316 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 My client CM Punk conquered Ryback's undefeated streak at Hell in a Cell 2012? Yes... yes that must be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 His client, Cesaro, won the first Andre the Giant memorial battle royal at WrestleMania? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UkWrestleFan Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Watched RAW this morning. It was a decent enough show but one thing really irked me... When Dean Ambrose got attacked by Rollins, Orton & Kane while he was talking with Reigns & Cena via the Titantron, did Reigns & Cena just stand in the ring and watch it happen? How come the made no effort to get backstage and help Ambrose out a little? I just found it pretty weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitarzu Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Watched RAW this morning. It was a decent enough show but one thing really irked me... When Dean Ambrose got attacked by Rollins, Orton & Kane while he was talking with Reigns & Cena via the Titantron, did Reigns & Cena just stand in the ring and watch it happen? How come the made no effort to get backstage and help Ambrose out a little? I just found it pretty weird. Lame booking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rone Rivendale Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 It seemed weird for Flair to pick Cena when Reigns was one of the options. Flair just picked The Shield over Evolution during their feud. You would think he would back Reigns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 It seemed weird for Flair to pick Cena when Reigns was one of the options. Flair just picked The Shield over Evolution during their feud. You would think he would back Reigns. Legends Contract Rule - Cena must be treated as the greatest champion in history no matter what. CM Punk reign - Cena backed by Foley, Piper, Ross as someone who you need to beat in order to prove yourself even if it means him getting a title shot every single PPV. I'm surprised they haven't had Bruno Sammartino come out and say his reign what nothing compared to Cena's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashasheen Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 It seemed weird for Flair to pick Cena when Reigns was one of the options. Flair just picked The Shield over Evolution during their feud. You would think he would back Reigns. Cena --> Reigns --> Orton is a perfectly logical line of thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Legends Contract Rule - Cena must be treated as the greatest champion in history no matter what. CM Punk reign - Cena backed by Foley, Piper, Ross as someone who you need to beat in order to prove yourself even if it means him getting a title shot every single PPV. I'm surprised they haven't had Bruno Sammartino come out and say his reign what nothing compared to Cena's. God that was sad to watch. They were so desperate to make Punk a heel that they had him picking fights with a legend nearly every week only for Cena and later Ryback to save them. John Cena constantly demanding that Punk face him despite Cena's inability to beat him was also laughable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 God that was sad to watch. They were so desperate to make Punk a heel that they had him picking fights with a legend nearly every week only for Cena and later Ryback to save them. John Cena constantly demanding that Punk face him despite Cena's inability to beat him was also laughable The best way to describe the feud http://botchedspot.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2012/10/2012-10-03-labors-cmpunk.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 The rumor is the Flair segment was so Cena could hand off the World Heavyweight belt (presumably to make way for a single new WWE Unified Championship belt). Although it was strange that the announcers didn't call attention to it. Even stranger is that the segment just made it even more obvious that Cena will win at Battleground. Predictable booking won't help Vince's floundering Network. I'm hoping for a swerve where Reigns pins Cena to win. If they want people to boo Lesnar at SummerSlam then I see no better opponent than Reigns. IMO, he's not ready for a long championship run so why not give him a quick title reign followed by a match or 2 against Lesnar. The stare-downs alone would be better than Cena cracking jokes about Heyman. Side benefit will be some fun matches between Reigns and Cena and Cesaro over the coming months. Anyone notice Rollins getting injured in the Raw main event? I thought it looked legit. Apparently the referee threw up the X sign and real medical staff attended to Rollins while the end of the match looked like a shambles to sell the chaos. But it was all a work. Rollins is too damn good at selling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 A quick title reign would be the absolute worst thing for Reigns' career right now. Predictable isn't always bad in wrestling. Bryan beating HHH was predictable and a necessity, not to mention a MOTYC. Cena is a guy who can absorb a loss and losing to Lesnar wouldn't hurt him where it would clearly hurt Reigns if he loses what would be his first PPV singles match instead of the direction of facing and beating Orton and/or HHH. Cena is also the biggest name on the roster so it makes sense for Cena/Lesnar to headline the PPV from a star power standpoint. Roman's steady push is one of the things WWE has down pretty much flawlessly so far, no need to ruin it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mootinie Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 A quick title reign would be the absolute worst thing for Reigns' career right now. Predictable isn't always bad in wrestling. Bryan beating HHH was predictable and a necessity, not to mention a MOTYC. Cena is a guy who can absorb a loss and losing to Lesnar wouldn't hurt him where it would clearly hurt Reigns if he loses what would be his first PPV singles match instead of the direction of facing and beating Orton and/or HHH. Cena is also the biggest name on the roster so it makes sense for Cena/Lesnar to headline the PPV from a star power standpoint. Roman's steady push is one of the things WWE has down pretty much flawlessly so far, no need to ruin it. I agree 100%. This is one of those situations where WWE need to think long term, Reigns first title win should be a big deal and shouldn't be done just to swerve the internet and be unpredictable. I'm calling it now though, if Reigns wins the belt at WrestleMania 31, he won't be Champion by the time Extreme Rules rolls round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 A quick title reign would be the absolute worst thing for Reigns' career right now. Predictable isn't always bad in wrestling. Bryan beating HHH was predictable and a necessity, not to mention a MOTYC. Cena is a guy who can absorb a loss and losing to Lesnar wouldn't hurt him where it would clearly hurt Reigns if he loses what would be his first PPV singles match instead of the direction of facing and beating Orton and/or HHH. Cena is also the biggest name on the roster so it makes sense for Cena/Lesnar to headline the PPV from a star power standpoint. Roman's steady push is one of the things WWE has down pretty much flawlessly so far, no need to ruin it. Seems like a waste to get so much heat on Lesnar for beating Taker's streak then on his PPV return have him face Cena who will get booed like a heel. As you said, Cena is the safe option for WWE so that's what we'll likely get. I don't think it's fair to compare Bryan's "predictable" WM triumph to anything involving Cena because most people (IWC and casuals alike) wanted Bryan to win. And I'm sure I wasn't the only person who thought there was still a chance Bryan would be screwed at WM and Batista would win. I also disagree about Reigns being buried by a 1 month title reign. If he were a proven main eventer then yes, but he's still a main event rookie (as a singles competitor) so losing a brutal hoss fight against Lesnar at SS wouldn't be that bad. Just being in a huge match would put Reigns over. If the match tanks, play up an inury angle by Kimura Lock and have Cena vs Lesnar at Night of Champions. Then Reigns can beat Cesaro and Orton in PPV feuds to keep him over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpoolez Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Giving the title to Reigns just to not be predictable is bad booking. Look at TNA. They give the title to guys on a whim and its all booked badly. WWE doesnt need to follow suit. The WWEs handling of Reigns, Ambrose, and Rollins has been done pretty well and I see no reason for that to change. Save Reigns/Lesnar for a future match when Reigns is a bigger star and you have a fresh main event. Lesnar/Cena is a decently anticipated matcg going by the critical response to their last match and Lesnar is owed a win against Cena anyway so why not do it on the second biggest show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stennick Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I agree 100%. This is one of those situations where WWE need to think long term, Reigns first title win should be a big deal and shouldn't be done just to swerve the internet and be unpredictable. I'm calling it now though, if Reigns wins the belt at WrestleMania 31, he won't be Champion by the time Extreme Rules rolls round. So wait you're saying if he wins the title at Wrestlemania 31 the biggest show of the year he'll lose the title before Extreme Rules four weeks later? I'll bet you any amount of money you'd like that will not happen. I'd personally bet he hangs onto the title until Summerslam after he wins it barring injury and what not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Interview with Triple H and WWE Superstars about the signing of KENTA http://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/fan_shot_images/335870/Kenta_Triple_H.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 KENTA _O_ Can't wait to see him in action. Ow wait, I'd probably just watch my ROH tapes as they'll probably (main)streamline his offense to suit their programming. Nah, who am I kidding. I'll watch. Seems Emma's back again. Expecting fans to come bearing signs that say "Don't steal my sign Emma". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 In case you still aren't watching NXT for some reason, Tyson fn Kidd legitimately has the best character in the wrestling industry right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellboy2 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 this has nothing to do with the current convo, but am watching Old RAW on YouTube, and my golly gosh can Billy Gunn sell Bradshaws Clothesline its amazing Dolph Ziggler sort of reminds me of Gunn, looking back i wished i liked Billy more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 its amazing Dolph Ziggler sort of reminds me of Gunn, looking back i wished i liked Billy more His finished might be responsible for that. Funny how they actually tie the move to two characters/gimmicks that are imo more or less the name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 The only difference is that Billy is like 8 inches taller and Ziggler is about 3x better in the ring He's like a more refined Billy if anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellboy2 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 The only difference is that Billy is like 8 inches taller and Ziggler is about 3x better in the ring He's like a more refined Billy if anything. Dolph Ziggler does same finisher i did not know that i only glimpse things now and whatever my mates tell me, i was more on about selling of certain moves, i saw a move that i think was botched on Money in the Bank but Ziggler made it look amazing, same as Billy Gunn being hit by Bradshaws clothesline, same as Scorpio he sold it like mad too again i only said reminds me its like the Ric Flair flop i love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazorbeak Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 this has nothing to do with the current convo, but am watching Old RAW on YouTube, and my golly gosh can Billy Gunn sell Bradshaws Clothesline its amazing Dolph Ziggler sort of reminds me of Gunn, looking back i wished i liked Billy more I think Billy's a bit underrated because he couldn't talk and didn't have a ton of personality, but he was a fantastic athlete and a pretty good worker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayW Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Just come across this Randy Savage statue made by Todd McFarlne Toys. It's going to retail at $295, but it is a beautiful piece of work. For the full article and full size pictures, click here. http://www.spawn.com/news/images/machoman-statue_news_photo_02_cs.jpg EDIT: It's online store page, with more images: http://www.mcfarlanetoysstore.com/mmarasawweic.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitarzu Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Did Jack Swagger stole Big E's five count t-shirt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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