Peppermint Rage Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 to be honest I think they're gonna see if they can get the crowd behind reigns by Fastlane and if they can we'll probably see roman win, if they can't we'll most likely see either Daniel winning or some kind of draw in order to set up a 3-way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayW Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 While I'd rather have seen Bryan win the Rumble, if they have him go over Reigns at Fast Lane, then that'll be two years in a row where the Royal Rumble has been undermined. If that's going to become the trend going forward, I'd rather they just got rid of the event, or else what's the point in winning it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UkWrestleFan Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 While I'd rather have seen Bryan win the Rumble, if they have him go over Reigns at Fast Lane, then that'll be two years in a row where the Royal Rumble has been undermined. If that's going to become the trend going forward, I'd rather they just got rid of the event, or else what's the point in winning it? It wasn't totally undermined last year. Batista still got the title shot he earned only it was in a Triple Threat. I don't think they explicitly say you get a one-on-one title match for winning the Rumble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I don't think they explicitly say you get a one-on-one title match for winning the Rumble. Indeed, they don't. This is the first time, however, that they explicitly say the winner has the chance of losing the shot, and that's a dangerous precedent because it devaluated the rumble. The years they put the event on the co-main kind of hurt its popularity. This will hurt it even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathers7 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Indeed, they don't. This is the first time, however, that they explicitly say the winner has the chance of losing the shot, and that's a dangerous precedent because it devaluated the rumble. The years they put the event on the co-main kind of hurt its popularity. This will hurt it even more. BIB - It's not though. Mysterio put his shot on the line against Orton in 2006. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 BIB - It's not though. Mysterio put his shot on the line against Orton in 2006. Cena did it in 08 as well and lost his shot, but was just added to the match anyways Im pretty sure there have been times when someone has successfully defended their main event spot too like Cena vs Punk in 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezpkns34 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Not only has the WM Main Event spot been defended before, but there's even been at least 1 winner that didn't actually Main Event at the ensuing Mania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfRoMaN36 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Vince also WON the Rumble in 99 (which should've cheapened the rumble in itself), then lost it the next month. It's definitely not the first time the Mania spot was defended, or even lost. However I do agree about your point. I would have just preferred Bryan win the Rumble than just be given it. A triple threat would soften the blow though I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellboy2 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 About the Royal Rumble, was the Sheamus Rumble win an 18 second match against Bryan, if it was that is the worst pay off, i remember looking forward to that match Also its kind of on-topic i have just purchased The Network and watched a few event including World War 3, my lord what an awful match, no one had a clue, but Steven Regal made me laugh so much, during the roll call and when he was in the ring and i really enjoyed December to Dismember, the one with CM Punk in the elimination chamber, forgot how much i liked Test and Lashly WCW vs WWF had so much potential i watched the Invasion main event and forgot how much i liked that match an finally i have forgotten the event Al Snow vs Boss Man in some kind of dog kennel match, i actually skipped most of it and Boss Man looked like he really did not want to do the match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UkWrestleFan Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Indeed, they don't. This is the first time, however, that they explicitly say the winner has the chance of losing the shot, and that's a dangerous precedent because it devaluated the rumble. The years they put the event on the co-main kind of hurt its popularity. This will hurt it even more. Point I was trying to make is that it isn't really the 2nd year in a row they've undermined the Rumble winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Potential NXT spoiler below? Apparently there's talk of Kalisto dropping the mask and taking on a new gimmick...a gay hair stylist. ...really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Potential NXT spoiler below? [/color] Right... like that will fill the void Antonio and Rey Mysterio left. As for the rumble, well... #oops . I'm not really a WWE historian, it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezpkns34 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Potential NXT spoiler below? Potential NXT reply spoiler below? Because that gimmick worked so well for Rico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitarzu Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 They unofficially denied the thing. They should use more this sentence! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 It's from the same source that told us AJ and Punk were having a baby and the Bellas were going to fight inside the cell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moe Hunter Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 While I'd rather have seen Bryan win the Rumble, if they have him go over Reigns at Fast Lane, then that'll be two years in a row where the Royal Rumble has been undermined. If that's going to become the trend going forward, I'd rather they just got rid of the event, or else what's the point in winning it? In addition to the other examples (99, 06, 08), in 1997 neither the Royal Rumble Winner, the runner-up, or the guy who left RR as champion were in the Main Event / Title Match at Wrestlemania. Austin won, Bret was the would-be winner as Austin had been eliminated but refs didn't see it, and HBK won the championship that night. At WM, Austin vs Hart had nothing to do with the title or the ME, which was Sycho Sid vs Undertaker. Let's not act as if the Rumble is some sacred, unbroken, unbreakable promise. Del Rio vs Edge and Sheamus vs Bryan opening WM instead of Main Eventing is also going against the conventional way the RR works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killagy Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/1700/1013/original.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPBHBK Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 When we are born, the first salvation we see is the light of life staring us BLANK IN THE FACE... But with life, comes death. And death, death is a funny thing. Death can happen to the mightiest of people in this world and it will drop them to there knees and make them beg for mercy. But it's when you embrace the sorrow of your own death, it is at that time you will become the embodiment of death it self... That's what he was. He used to take souls, make people wallow in fear at the mention of his name, and make them Rest... in... Peace... But now all that darkness, all that DEATH inside him!! He has turned that death that engulfed his body and soul, into the love and admiration he has for all of you... But I have embraced the sorrow of death, and now since he has strayed away from the gates of hell I have no choice but to make him Rest in Peace... RUN! (A little Bray Wyatt promo I made up about the Undertaker.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 When we are born, the first salvation we see is the light of life staring us BLANK IN THE FACE... But with life, comes death. And death, death is a funny thing. Death can happen to the mightiest of people in this world and it will drop them to there knees and make them beg for mercy. But it's when you embrace the sorrow of your own death, it is at that time you will become the embodiment of death it self... That's what he was. He used to take souls, make people wallow in fear at the mention of his name, and make them Rest... in... Peace... But now all that darkness, all that DEATH inside him!! He has turned that death that engulfed his body and soul, into the love and admiration he has for all of you... But I have embraced the sorrow of death, and now since he has strayed away from the gates of hell I have no choice but to make him Rest in Peace... RUN! (A little Bray Wyatt promo I made up about the Undertaker.) Not vague enough 4/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPBHBK Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Not vague enough 4/10 Lol, damn it. Still better than a Roman Reigns promo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezpkns34 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Just when you think that Vince has totally lost it, he goes & proves that he's the greatest there is at making stars Reigns will go over cleanly over Bryan at Fast Lane. Boos everywhere Reigns will go over cleanly over Lesnar at Mania. Boos everywhere Rollins will try to cash in. Cheers everywhere Reigns will go over cleanly over Rollins. Boos everywhere Cena takes it upon himself to become the hero that the WWE Universe needs. Everyone that hates him cheers for him as he rids them of Reigns Cena becomes universally loved, just like Vince planned all along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPBHBK Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Just when you think that Vince has totally lost it, he goes & proves that he's the greatest there is at making stars Reigns will go over cleanly over Bryan at Fast Lane. Boos everywhere Reigns will go over cleanly over Lesnar at Mania. Boos everywhere Rollins will try to cash in. Cheers everywhere Reigns will go over cleanly over Rollins. Boos everywhere Cena takes it upon himself to become the hero that the WWE Universe needs. Everyone that hates him cheers for him as he rids them of Reigns Cena becomes universally loved, just like Vince planned all along That was the Master Plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Century Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 To me, Roman Reigns reminds me of Batista. A guy with a good look and good charisma who isn't all that great at being a babyface. Hopefully they turn Reigns heel faster than they turned Batista heel, because just from watching those Sam Roberts interviews that he did I can tell that Reigns would be a ton better as a heel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayW Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 In addition to the other examples (99, 06, 08), in 1997 neither the Royal Rumble Winner, the runner-up, or the guy who left RR as champion were in the Main Event / Title Match at Wrestlemania. Austin won, Bret was the would-be winner as Austin had been eliminated but refs didn't see it, and HBK won the championship that night. At WM, Austin vs Hart had nothing to do with the title or the ME, which was Sycho Sid vs Undertaker. Let's not act as if the Rumble is some sacred, unbroken, unbreakable promise. Del Rio vs Edge and Sheamus vs Bryan opening WM instead of Main Eventing is also going against the conventional way the RR works. The winner gets a title shot, so the last two matches stay true to the point of the Rumble match itself, even though they didn't headline. In 2006 and 2008 the winner still got to fight for the Championship. In 1999, no one was going to buy a PPV headlined by a non-wrestler. Of course McMahon would give up his title shot. In 1997 if I remember correctly the referee's were busy dealing with something at ringside, and didn't see Austin throw Hart out of the ring, but had to declare him the winner by default as he was the only one left in there. This lead to Austin being called the 'unofficial' winner and caused the match that it lead to at Mania, so I'm not really sure 1997 can count? And why shouldn't we act as if the Rumble is an 'unbreakable promise'? Every year we are reminded over, and over, and over that the winner of the match will get a title shot at 'Mania. Or have I just imagined that for the past twenty-two years? I've never once heard Michael Cole or Jim Ross say "The winner of the Royal Rumble might get to face the Champion at WrestleMania!" or "If he wins the Rumble there's a pretty decent chance he will get a title shot at WrestleMania!" If the winner of the Rumble has to defend his spot at Mania after winning the match, why then should I, as a fan, invest my time and emotion in the Royal Rumble match itself? Why should I root for my favourites? Why should I care who wins, if after the event 'creative' decide 'nah, we'll go with someone else'? It totally defies and undermines the entire point of the match itself. I do not like Roman Reigns, I'd rather a handful of others won the Rumble instead, but I detest this self-entitled mentality that wrestling fans have suddenly developed over the last two or three years. Roman Reigns won the Rumble, and hopefully he beats Bryan at Fast Lane, because it's a match that he shouldn't have to fight in. He's already earned his spot against Lesnar (in a pure keyfabe sense). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 From a purely kayfabe perspective, if Reigns is stupid enough to be goaded into putting his title shot on the line he deserves to lose the opportunity anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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