The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

[Johnny Fenoli]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="juggaloninjalee" data-cite="juggaloninjalee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>People in this thread claim TNA is tight on money and going to be more strict. They shot the idea down of remaking the Legends belt into a TV title.<p> </p><p> So why would they make a personalized World Title for 1 guy who isn't even their #1 seller in merchandise?</p><p> </p><p> WWE has a lot of money to spend. TNA doesn't so them doing it seems like a mute point. Plus this is a different company with completely different people in charge.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> a title belt isn't that expensive, probably less than 2/3 thousand? It's a prop for the storyline.</p>

[eayragt]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="juggaloninjalee" data-cite="juggaloninjalee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> Jeff Hardy COULD have ordered a belt from that company. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Sure, he could have done. But there's zero evidence of it, and it'd make marginally above zero sense for him to have paid for it (although I'll give you that a lot of things in wrestling make as much sense as that).</p><p> </p><p> I would just move on - you thought he paid for the belt, you were almost certainly wrong. Without any evidence (I won't say "any more" as there's been no evidence so far) you're not going to convince anyone.</p>

[PeterHilton]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="juggaloninjalee" data-cite="juggaloninjalee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I am saying he had a belt made. Then they worked it into a storyline after Hardy ordered it more than likely. <strong>I dont think Hogan and Bischoff or whoever writes storylines said... lets make a belt just for 1 guy so that we spend the money on 2 new belts in the next year. 1 for this guy and 1 for a TNA World Title.</strong><p> </p><p> If they couldnt get a new TV belt made in place for the legends belt why would they be able to get a personalized belt and a new world belt approved? Do your bosses at your jobs work that way? I highly doubt it.</p><p> </p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Two totally different cases..the Legends/TV belt is a midcard title that no one pays attention to</p><p> </p><p> We've already seen evidence that the Immortal storyline was planned far in advance. This is obviously a priority to them. Hardy is <em>their guy. </em> This angle is going to play out for months...it makes total sense to get a new belt.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hyde Hill" data-cite="Hyde Hill" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Huh? This makes no sense.<p> </p><p> Order of events:</p><p> </p><p> 1. Old belt is busted up.</p><p> </p><p> 2. To get heel heat and replace old one decision is made to unveil new belt for the heel stable champion.</p><p> </p><p> 3. Said champion (helps) pick who makes the belt as it will be a personalized belt.</p><p> </p><p> 4. TNA ok's the design and after completion pays for the belt.</p><p> </p><p> 5. TNA runs the angle.</p><p> </p><p> What you are saying Hardy went and ordered a belt for himself just for kicks. TNA found out about it and then decided to make it into an angle to replace the old one?</p><p> </p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Exactly. And again..TNA has actually shown that they booked this in advance so who's to say they didn't plan this from the get go?</p><p> </p><p> Eric is re-living the nWo era...one of the more iconic images from the Monday Night Wars was the WWF Women's Title being put in the trash can. So he probably thought: Why not do it again..but go even BIGGER???</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="juggaloninjalee" data-cite="juggaloninjalee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Jeff Hardy COULD have ordered a belt from that company. ... He could have suggested the idea to the bookers. Wrestlers do that all the time. I know most don't get their own ideas approved but they obviously like him so maybe they approved that idea and made something with it. I still think it is possible that Hardy paid for it. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="juggaloninjalee" data-cite="juggaloninjalee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>WWE has a lot of money to spend. TNA doesn't so them doing it seems like a mute point. Plus this is a different company with completely different people in charge.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This whole argument started because you said that Hardy MUST have bought the belt because - if TNA bought it - it would show "bad taste."</p><p> </p><p> That was you defending TNA because no matter what, you defend TNA. Which is totally fine...you're a fan and it's your right. </p><p> </p><p> But we're talking about logic and reason and simple common sense. Sure it's POSSIBLE Hardy bought it, but TNA still would've had to approve it and it seems incredibly unlikely they would've turned it into a major angle after the fact. So it's POSSIBLE...but only in the sense that it's also POSSIBLE the title was a gift from Zeus so that JEff could battle the mighty Krakan and save us from Hades.</p><p> </p><p> What's more likely? That TNA approved of and purchased the belt as a way to push their big star in their biggest angle and re-live a seminal moment from the Monday Night Wars? Or that they saw the belt after it was made, never approved it, but then ran a giant angle as soon as they saw it because it looked so darned cool?</p>

[crownsy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="HughBatey4" data-cite="HughBatey4" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So every heel stable must be an nWo ripoff?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ones that include 2 major figures from the NwO and are doing the exact same gimmick down to Easy E's little fist tap to the heart and point to the crowd act?</p><p> </p><p> yea, I'd say the comparison is apt.</p>

[Stennick]

<p>Dear J,</p><p> </p><p>

I know you're in a delusional world telling yourself Immortal isn't an nWo rip off, telling yourself Jeff Hardy a guy who has a kid on the way, a guy that has MULTIPLE serious drug charges in court right now, and a guy that I'm sure took a sizeable pay cut when he joined TNA that guy went out and bought a championship, had it cleared with the bookers and then had them make this championship and present it on national television as their official world championship. I know from your earlier statements that you are very delusional when dealing with TNA so please just take my word for it when I tell you that this is a silly, off the wall, closed off thinking. You have offered no credible evidence or offered any convincing argument that this is indeed fact outside of your realm of reality. </p><p> </p><p>

Was the championship modeled after Jeff Hardy? Of course it was, The Rock has a Brahma Bull, The Undertaker has his symbol, John Cena has had several vanity belts, even Edge had a champnionship these things happen. Has it happened in TNA yet? No, but to be fair their more focused on ripping off nineties WCW and not nineties WWF.</p><p> </p><p>

You want to defend TNA? You don't have to, enjoy it, even come in here and talk about what you like. Nobody has been attacked for liking TNA or the Immortal storyline and those that do like it have even accepted that others have given up on TNA. Enjoy it but you don't need to come in here with your isolated thinking and defending the company with un convincing arguments and borderline crazy theories.</p>

[juggaloninjalee]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Dear J,<p> </p><p> I know you're in a delusional world telling yourself Immortal isn't an nWo rip off, telling yourself Jeff Hardy a guy who has a kid on the way, a guy that has MULTIPLE serious drug charges in court right now, and a guy that I'm sure took a sizeable pay cut when he joined TNA that guy went out and bought a championship, had it cleared with the bookers and then had them make this championship and present it on national television as their official world championship. I know from your earlier statements that you are very delusional when dealing with TNA so please just take my word for it when I tell you that this is a silly, off the wall, closed off thinking. You have offered no credible evidence or offered any convincing argument that this is indeed fact outside of your realm of reality. </p><p> </p><p> Was the championship modeled after Jeff Hardy? Of course it was, The Rock has a Brahma Bull, The Undertaker has his symbol, John Cena has had several vanity belts, even Edge had a champnionship these things happen. Has it happened in TNA yet? No, but to be fair their more focused on ripping off nineties WCW and not nineties WWF.</p><p> </p><p> You want to defend TNA? You don't have to, enjoy it, even come in here and talk about what you like. Nobody has been attacked for liking TNA or the Immortal storyline and those that do like it have even accepted that others have given up on TNA. Enjoy it but you don't need to come in here with your isolated thinking and defending the company with un convincing arguments and borderline crazy theories.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I just dislike bashing of most programs. TNA, or WWE it doesnt matter. I will be the 1st to admit I don't know 100% that Hardy or TNA bought that belt but nobody in here knows for sure either. I have known of that company for awhile though and I know Shannon Moore bought a belt from them not long ago. So why wouldn't 1 of his best friends do the same? That was basically my argument about the belts but I know when I go back and read what I have said it doesn't come across that way exactly.</p><p> </p><p> All this bashing of wrestling only sways peoples opinions of the product and not in a positive way. There are a lot of people out there who just go with what the read and make it their opinion too based on things like this. Not sure exactly what I am trying to say but I am not a die hard TNA fan. I wouldn't even shell out $25 to go see them last month but I went to the ROH show Friday night and spent over $50 on my ticket, and memorabilia.</p><p> </p><p> I do agree TNA is doing a lot of things I am not a big fan of but I also want all things wrestling too succeed so I defend all things that are wrestling too.</p><p> </p><p> My TNA positives are... MCMG, Ink Inc., RVD (not on the mic though), The Pope, Kurt Angle and Samoa Joe, and Fortune still. Those are some of the things I really do like in TNA.</p>

[eayragt]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="juggaloninjalee" data-cite="juggaloninjalee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>My TNA positives are... MCMG, Ink Inc., RVD (not on the mic though), The Pope, Kurt Angle and Samoa Joe, and Fortune still. Those are some of the things I really do like in TNA.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'll have to ask - are you not a Jay Lethal fan, or has TNA's use of him in the last few months put him to the back of your mind? That's not a bash - I was going to post saying "even decent TNA fans are forgetting about Lethal", before realising that not everyone is a fan of him like I am, so it could be that.</p><p> </p><p> Although I would say I am still a TNA fan. I can look at the good old days with rose tinted specs, completely ignoring factors like the horrendous production values and a PPV where accidentally almost burnt the house down.</p>

[Stennick]

<p>I'm a fan of Jay Lethal but whats the point really? He went from beating Ric Flair with the Figure Four Leglock to being beat by a guy who in my opinion that was brought in soley to play this weak gimmick. </p><p> </p><p>

I posted before BFG how I would have had Jay Lethal win the world championship at BFG. Not in the current story but in my fantasy booking Jay Lethal wins the championship at BFG. However I don't think TNA could be more clear where they view Jay in the pecking order.</p>

[dvdWarrior]

Jay Lethal makes me sad. I actually thought he was inches away from becoming a star after he beat Flair, and that maybe TNA was on the right track. Then, it just all fell apart. Far as I'm concerned, TNA REALLY dropped the ball on him.

[Stennick]

I would love to hear Eric Bischoff explain why they stopped pushing Jay Lethal.

[haloed]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="dvdWarrior" data-cite="dvdWarrior" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Jay Lethal makes me sad. I actually thought he was inches away from becoming a star after he beat Flair, and that maybe TNA was on the right track. Then, it just all fell apart. Far as I'm concerned, TNA REALLY dropped the ball on him.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> TNA pretty much drops the ball on everyone that starts to get over. It frustrating to see guys so close to breaking out it seems and than they just seem to vanish from the shows.</p>

[PeterHilton]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="juggaloninjalee" data-cite="juggaloninjalee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> I do agree TNA is doing a lot of things I am not a big fan of but I also want all things wrestling too succeed so I defend all things that are wrestling too.</p><p> </p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is a "Discussion" thread..not a "blind fanboyism" thread...whether you like it or not it's not our job as fans of wrestling to agree with everything that every promotion does. </p><p> </p><p> People who defend all of anything only encourage mediocrity. </p><p> </p><p> Your "Jeff Hardy bought the title belt" defense was just plain ridiculous..so it's hard to value your opinion or take what you say seriously when you defend everything no matter what. Hyde used to catch flack for being the TNA homer but at least you could always have a fair discussion with him because he admitted faults and was reasonable, even if people didn't share his opinions.</p><p> </p><p> But if you're going to post in a way that you blindly defend everything TNA does with no real logic or reason behind it, you kind of have to expect that people are going to tear your posts apart. </p><p> </p><p> Which is too bad because it seems like when you think your posts out you have some stuff worth listening to.</p>

[Stennick]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="PeterHilton" data-cite="PeterHilton" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Which is too bad because it seems like when you think your posts out you have some stuff worth listening to.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think there is more evidence of Hardy owning that belt than there is of that statement Peter <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Hyde Hill]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="PeterHilton" data-cite="PeterHilton" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This is a "Discussion" thread..not a "blind fanboyism" thread...whether you like it or not it's not our job as fans of wrestling to agree with everything that every promotion does. <p> </p><p> People who defend all of anything only encourage mediocrity. </p><p> </p><p> Your "Jeff Hardy bought the title belt" defense was just plain ridiculous..so it's hard to value your opinion or take what you say seriously when you defend everything no matter what. <strong>Hyde used to catch flack for being the TNA homer but at least you could always have a fair discussion with him because he admitted faults and was reasonable, even if people didn't share his opinions.</strong></p><p> </p><p> But if you're going to post in a way that you blindly defend everything TNA does with no real logic or reason behind it, you kind of have to expect that people are going to tear your posts apart. </p><p> </p><p> Which is too bad because it seems like when you think your posts out you have some stuff worth listening to.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks mate. And I actually do still have many of those opinions and do still see a lot of good in TNA. Like Papa wrote earlier that is why a lot here write about TNA because they care about TNA and criticise it. Its not just to bash but to look for improvement.</p>

[PeterHilton]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think there is more evidence of Hardy owning that belt than there is of that statement Peter <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Now, now...just because he has the word "juggalo" in his screen name..<img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> But honestly, I've read his posts on other parts of the board and JNL seems like a good guy. He's taken a TON of grief for his posts about TNA but he's always responded civilly. I don't want him to think it's a personal attack. </p><p> </p><p> He's a big fan of wrestling in general and I get that.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hyde Hill" data-cite="Hyde Hill" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Thanks mate. And I actually do still have many of those opinions and do still see a lot of good in TNA. Like Papa wrote earlier that is why a lot here write about TNA because they care about TNA and criticise it. Its not just to bash but to look for improvement.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No problem, and there's nothing wrong with liking TNA. Hell, there's a lot about TNA that I like when they have things going good. I still like some of the stuff they do now (And as a for instance: I've said a couple times I don't think the belt going in the trash was a bad idea, and that the design makes total sense when you see it as a custom belt for Hardy's character)</p><p> </p><p> But - and I know you know this , Hyde, I'm speaking in general - it's a lot easier to talk to someone who will say "yeah maybe it's a bit of a rip-off of the nWo but if they perform their parts well and there's an actual pay-off at the end of it, then what's the problem?" rather than "OMGZ! how come every time TNA runs an angle you haters say it's a rip off of the WCW/WWE???"</p><p> </p><p> One is a totally valid opinion with a very realistic hope for success and the other is like sticking your hands over your ears and going LALALA as loud as you can.</p>

[juggaloninjalee]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="eayragt" data-cite="eayragt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'll have to ask - are you not a Jay Lethal fan, or has TNA's use of him in the last few months put him to the back of your mind? That's not a bash - I was going to post saying "even decent TNA fans are forgetting about Lethal", before realising that not everyone is a fan of him like I am, so it could be that.<p> </p><p> Although I would say I am still a TNA fan. I can look at the good old days with rose tinted specs, completely ignoring factors like the horrendous production values and a PPV where accidentally almost burnt the house down.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I like Jay Lethal in the ring. Didn't like the Black Machismo character though. His short feud with Flair was very entertaining and I liked that a lot. Not sure if I would have pegged him for World Champion anytime soon but he should have been used better after that feud.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="PeterHilton" data-cite="PeterHilton" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Now, now...just because he has the word "juggalo" in his screen name..<img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> But honestly, I've read his posts on other parts of the board and JNL seems like a good guy. He's taken a TON of grief for his posts about TNA but he's always responded civilly. I don't want him to think it's a personal attack. </p><p> </p><p> He's a big fan of wrestling in general and I get that.</p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I can see why people have had arguments about my posts in this thread. It's natural for me to kinda stick up and counter most arguments when I feel they are more on the negative side. I will try not to do that anymore as I do agree with a lot of the negativety sometimes but still find myself taking the opposing side.</p><p> </p><p> I still like Hardy as a heel. By the way hated the face paint he wore.</p>

[Basmat01]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="juggaloninjalee" data-cite="juggaloninjalee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I like Jay Lethal in the ring. Didn't like the Black Machismo character though. His short feud with Flair was very entertaining and I liked that a lot. Not sure if I would have pegged him for World Champion anytime soon but he should have been used better after that feud.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The gimmick itself mimicking a legend is a pretty poor one, TNA got lucky that Jay was able to pull it off and is very very very good at it.</p>

[UkWrestleFan]

I've started watching TNA a bit more lately. By 'a bit more' I mean 'I watched the Impact before Turning Point, Turning Point itself and will be watching the next Impact tonight'

 

I'm enjoying it but that's probably because I haven't watched anything but WWE for a while. Loving what they've done with Jeff Hardy but Immortal as a whole is a bit mehh for me. Seems silly having a stable within a stable. Fortune had their purpose and Immortal could have had their but seperate from Fortune so not sure why they had to join forces. Maybe, in the long run, it'll lead to the group crumbling within. A.J being a 'TNA Original', I can see him eventually turning and bringing the group down from within.

 

I see a lot of people unhappy with the Immortal direction and I'm not sold on it just yet but I think it's going to be a case of them being built up to be an unstoppable force so when the TNA guys do finally prevail (which I'm sure they will) it'll be a bigger deal and make those TNA guys look like a huge deal.

 

I think it'll end up being some TNA guys (Joe, Lethal, The Guns) joined by some 'newer' TNA faces (Anderson, Morgan) probably joined by some vets (Angle, maybe Sting if he comes back) and they'll battle Immortal. I think it'll probably end up like the Invasion where somebody turns on the heel group and helps the good guys win with that somebody being A.J.

[Hyde Hill]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="juggaloninjalee" data-cite="juggaloninjalee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I like Jay Lethal in the ring. Didn't like the Black Machismo character though. His short feud with Flair was very entertaining and I liked that a lot. Not sure if I would have pegged him for World Champion anytime soon but he should have been used better after that feud.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I can see why people have had arguments about my posts in this thread. It's natural for me to kinda stick up and counter most arguments when I feel they are more on the negative side. I will try not to do that anymore as I do agree with a lot of the negativety sometimes but still find myself taking the opposing side.</p><p> </p><p> I still like Hardy as a heel. By the way hated the face paint he wore.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Oh it's no problem to be on the opposing side or to want to argue the other side of the coin but it is the way you do that that is more important like Peterhilton gave an example of how it should and should not be done.</p>

[PeterHilton]

<p>Spoilers for the next three weeks. Nov 18 and 25th </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hashasheen" data-cite="Hashasheen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Spoilers: <p> <a href="http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/tna-spoilers/tna-impact-taping-results-november-9-2010.php" rel="external nofollow">http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/tna-spoilers/tna-impact-taping-results-november-9-2010.php</a></p><p> <a href="http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/tna-spoilers/tna-impact-taping-results-november-15-2010.php" rel="external nofollow">http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/tna-spoilers/tna-impact-taping-results-november-15-2010.php</a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> And then Dec 2nd</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/162395/Complete-TNA-Impact-Taping-Results-%28SPOILERS%29.htm" rel="external nofollow">http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/162395/Complete-TNA-Impact-Taping-Results-%28SPOILERS%29.htm</a></p>

[PeterHilton]

<p>Not gonna post any specific spoilers but after reading through those here's my initial thoughts:</p><p>

</p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">

--They spend a LOT of time on Bubba/Devon. </span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">

--They spend a LOT of time on Jarrett. I mean...a LOT</span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">

--The Morgan push continues and looks like it's making sense</span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">

--AJ is a total afterthought</span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">

--Weird to say, but they are under-utilizing Bischoff, Hogan, and Hardy. I mean, The Immortals are your big heel stable and that is supposed to be your central storyline but most of the big heel segments are carried by Jeff Jarrett and Ric Flair (with Fourtune in the background). SO what's the deal? I thought the whole point of this taping schedule was to make it more attractive to workers who wanted to work less dates. It should be </span><span style="color:#FFFFFF;"><em>easier</em></span><span style="color:#FFFFFF;"> to get your BIG names on TV but if you read those spoilers it's like they're building towards a PPV main event with only one side really driving the story. </span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">

TNA's schedule means that -at most - these guys are being asked to work what?...5 or 6 days out of the month excluding house shows. If they won't even commit to that, what's the point ?</span></p>

[20LEgend]

(Above Peters last post I mean the spoilers)^^ This sounds, dull and boring as well as very repetitive, are TNA intent on de valueising every match type, also not liking The Pope's casket

[juggaloninjalee]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="PeterHilton" data-cite="PeterHilton" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Spoilers for the next three weeks. Nov 18 and 25th <p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> And then Dec 2nd</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/162395/Complete-TNA-Impact-Taping-Results-%28SPOILERS%29.htm" rel="external nofollow">http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/162395/Complete-TNA-Impact-Taping-Results-%28SPOILERS%29.htm</a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Based on that I will say I like about 40% total of the shows. 60% I may flip back and forth with something else on tv. Looks like they are not forgetting about the Joe and Pope stuff from before BFG which is good. I know TNA gets a lot of flack about forgetting previous storylines. So that is a good thing. I HATE the outcome of a couple matches and think the MCMG should be featured more and in better spots.</p><p> </p><p> I agree with your spoiler thoughts post 100%</p>

[Hashasheen]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="PeterHilton" data-cite="PeterHilton" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not gonna post any specific spoilers but after reading through those here's my initial thoughts:</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#FFFFFF;">What I'm irritated about that you also didn't mention was the Cookie in a cage thing. That cage will fall and Cookie is going to get hurt from this stunt. They couldn't just ban her from ringside with the stipulation that if she does, Robbie is stripped of the title? </span></p>

[Slagaholic]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hashasheen" data-cite="Hashasheen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Deleted spoiler</span></div></blockquote><p> <span style="color:#FFFFFF;">They have been doing manager in a cage matches since the 70s. I seem to remember Kevin Sullivan in a cage during Starrcade '88. If they could pull this stunt off well 22 years ago I'm sure they could pull it off well now. And didn't the early PPVs have women dancing in cages over the entryway the entire show?</span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;"> There will be much more dangerous things happening in the ring than a cage suspended above the ring in a studio which is more than equipped to handle this.</span></p>