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[Jaysin]

Pretty decent episode in my opinion.

[matthew222]

that wasnt bad at all.Really liked Kendrick vs Shelly and Aries getting Involed feuding with Shelly will be good.Knockout match was pretty average.Why doesn't Joe have any PFG Series points.That guy was great a few years ago and then after Hogan came, he got destroyed.Main Event wasn't that very good. I am a big Sting fan, but he needs to Retire. Is Crimson any good? Never seen him.

[20LEgend]

I'm going to write this as I go through watching it:

 

Skipped through Sting at the start, the new voice just makes me feel so annoyed I can't stand this Sting. Angle then spoke and we got the bull about RESPECT, which we here every f'n time. Then I realised Face vs Face, two old guys, I thought I don't care about the world title scene. Then Anderson spoke to Sting, who was looking normal and then went back into character that annoyed me after Bully Ray did his thing. Anderson / Ray > Sting / Angle tonight...

 

Skipped RVD / Steiner, watch last few mins was okay didn't like the finish. Mickie and Velvet was soppy, but they looked nice. Pointless segment. Then Angelina came out and was being a normal heel, which is stupid, plus that was not what Winter wanted at the start. Too long of a segment. Winter was better than the others easily. The brawl was boring. Wanted to watch the tag match entrances skipped the match.

 

Lol Spiderman, sure Cole used that as well, well done cliche commentary. Seemed to not have great effect as 5 days ago I just saw two of these with twice as many guys but it was good. Gunner going into the Footprint was crap. Decent match overall.

 

The EY D'Lo thing meh, D'Lo saying gimmick annoyed me stop it it's not cool TNA! Why did D'Lo chas him

 

Alex Shelley is so cool. Shelley easily got up from a move that finished Robbie E a few weeks ago. Consistency. Good match, didn't like the ending, but I thing they are trying to scream AA is a heel, because everyone loves him. good match Shelley and BK are great.

 

REALLY, REALLY can not listen to Anarquia or Mexican America, they are crap. Beyond boring. Skip the segment sorry beer Money.

 

ODB, Jackie yawn, heels break their word shocker. Skipped the rest of the show no interest in it, just looked and saw it wasn't so good. Traci Brooks

 

Main event was short and crappy.

 

All in all Sting being a main guy, Anarquia being in the company I really am not enjoying TNA at the moment. Angle being respectful and Sting's off and on character. I hate Sting's character that decided it for me. Hey Anderson, "where's your rematch"

 

Wish I could be positive but watch MITB then this TNA will never reach WWE IMO.

 

Other than 4 way and X match this was boring, I think I'm losing any faith in TNA, inconsistency and boring generic, same and same again stories.

[JTandSilentBob]

Am I the only person that thought the Shelly/Kendrick match was boring. It lacked emotion and Shelly kept falling awkward when kicked. Spin kick and he drops to his knees. Dropkicked, falls to his knees. I just didn't feel like there was any emotion. Something about it didn't "click" with me. I might be the only one though.

[bjo313]

the whole Knockouts brawl was ridiculous. Tenay's commentary about how weird it was to see two opponents (Mickie & Velvet) teaming up, you know, cause Sting and Angle aren't doing the same thing the same night and TNA does it before every PPV.

[BloodyKnuckles]

I'm going to write this as I go through watching it:

 

Skipped through Sting at the start, the new voice just makes me feel so annoyed I can't stand this Sting. Angle then spoke and we got the bull about RESPECT, which we here every f'n time. Then I realised Face vs Face, two old guys, I thought I don't care about the world title scene. Then Anderson spoke to Sting, who was looking normal and then went back into character that annoyed me after Bully Ray did his thing. Anderson / Ray > Sting / Angle tonight...

 

Skipped RVD / Steiner, watch last few mins was okay didn't like the finish. Mickie and Velvet was soppy, but they looked nice. Pointless segment. Then Angelina came out and was being a normal heel, which is stupid, plus that was not what Winter wanted at the start. Too long of a segment. Winter was better than the others easily. The brawl was boring. Wanted to watch the tag match entrances skipped the match.

 

Lol Spiderman, sure Cole used that as well, well done cliche commentary. Seemed to not have great effect as 5 days ago I just saw two of these with twice as many guys but it was good. Gunner going into the Footprint was crap. Decent match overall.

 

The EY D'Lo thing meh, D'Lo saying gimmick annoyed me stop it it's not cool TNA! Why did D'Lo chas him

 

Alex Shelley is so cool. Shelley easily got up from a move that finished Robbie E a few weeks ago. Consistency. Good match, didn't like the ending, but I thing they are trying to scream AA is a heel, because everyone loves him. good match Shelley and BK are great.

 

REALLY, REALLY can not listen to Anarquia or Mexican America, they are crap. Beyond boring. Skip the segment sorry beer Money.

 

ODB, Jackie yawn, heels break their word shocker. Skipped the rest of the show no interest in it, just looked and saw it wasn't so good. Traci Brooks

 

Main event was short and crappy.

 

All in all Sting being a main guy, Anarquia being in the company I really am not enjoying TNA at the moment. Angle being respectful and Sting's off and on character. I hate Sting's character that decided it for me. Hey Anderson, "where's your rematch"

 

Wish I could be positive but watch MITB then this TNA will never reach WWE IMO.

 

Other than 4 way and X match this was boring, I think I'm losing any faith in TNA, inconsistency and boring generic, same and same again stories.

 

You pretty much skipped the whole show, how can anyone take this opinion seriously?

 

Other than Anarquia and the way too long Knockout segments, this was a pretty good show..

[BloodyKnuckles]

Am I the only person that thought the Shelly/Kendrick match was boring. It lacked emotion and Shelly kept falling awkward when kicked. Spin kick and he drops to his knees. Dropkicked, falls to his knees. I just didn't feel like there was any emotion. Something about it didn't "click" with me. I might be the only one though.

 

I thought it was a good match for the time they were given, that's my problem with Impact, everyone knows Shelley and Kendrick can put on a great match with each other.. but why cut some time away from the old guys and a ridiculously long Knockout brawl, just make the match 6 minutes and move on..

 

Never mind the fact that it was a title shot, I really feel like that was a missed opportunity for TNA to put on a really good title match on TV, but oh well, they'll still continue to ignore the crowd (loudest for X-Division segments) and spam knockouts and Hogan all over the show..

[Fantabulous]

You pretty much skipped the whole show, how can anyone take this opinion seriously?

I can take it seriously because he went in with the intention of watching the whole show. It's not his fault that the show was was so poorly written that it not only failed to hold his interest but at points compelled him to skip ahead.

[20LEgend]

You pretty much skipped the whole show, how can anyone take this opinion seriously?

 

Other than Anarquia and the way too long Knockout segments, this was a pretty good show..

 

Because I've watched every episode of Impact since about September 2009, and watch it semi-regular before then. I think when I said I didn't like it I meant by how many people on it I can't bear to watch.

 

I didn't skip parts just to get through it quickly, I actually know for a fact that hearing Sting use that stupid voice and pull stupid faces actually annoys me, odd but it does, then I hear Kurt Angle talk some crap about respect and I skip that because I've heard it 100 times before, I listen to Anderson Ray thought it was good. I, like Fantabulous pointed out, intended to watch all of the show, but:

 

- I know the knockouts on display don't interest me. And I certainly know Miss Jackie and ODB aren't the solution to that.

- I know that Steiner is a poor in ring talent and so I'm not going to watch a 48 year old man take on a 40 year old man. I don't need to sit trough that so I won't

- I know that I get annoyed from Sting doing his goofy crap as well as him switching in and out of character (when Anderson mentioned it, going back in it for one example) and I know that I don't listen to Angle say he respects Sting, and quite frankly I'm not interest in a 52 year old (?) take on a 42 year old.

- I know I like Matt Morgan, Samoa Joe and AJ Styles. I know I'm undecided on Gunner, so I watch the match.

- I know that I don't find it cool for TNA to blatantly break kayfabe. O know I like EY, so I stuck and watched the whole segment.

- I know I really really like Alex Shelley and that BK is one of my favourites so I was delighted with that match.

- I know I am a big Beer Money fan and I know my dislike of the character Anarquia because of his loud, brash over the top fake Mexican voice is so bad it ruins a segment to the point I simply can not bear it.

- I know that having a 5 minute TAG TEAM Main Event is not going to be worth my time, because when I even attempt to get invested in it, it's over.

 

Make of that what you will, and take my opinion however you want to take it, if you think I'm wrong that's what makes it my opinion, if it was fact I wouldn't have said it. I hope you realise I haven't gone oh it's Sting I'll skip that, I've given a segment 2 minutes and it's got me to the point where I know I don't need to sit through it and so. I wanted to watch the show. I watched all of Raw on Monday and all of MITB and it is rare I do that.

 

I know which characters work for me and which don't it's not like I've seen a show and known what to expect and watched it to complain. If I saw Kazarian take on Robbie E or Amazing Red or, Beer Money or if The British Invasion were on the show. I would have watch if they advanced Pope vs Devon. I have not just tune in and span ahead I watch the show week in and week out and I don't want to seem like I'm going on (which I undoubtedly).

 

Please don't take my opinion seriously if you think it's a load of whatever, but it is there and it is true. I wish I enjoyed what I saw I didn't and I'm glad other people enjoyed it.

[BloodyKnuckles]

Because I've watched every episode of Impact since about September 2009, and watch it semi-regular before then. I think when I said I didn't like it I meant by how many people on it I can't bear to watch.

 

I didn't skip parts just to get through it quickly, I actually know for a fact that hearing Sting use that stupid voice and pull stupid faces actually annoys me, odd but it does, then I hear Kurt Angle talk some crap about respect and I skip that because I've heard it 100 times before, I listen to Anderson Ray thought it was good. I, like Fantabulous pointed out, intended to watch all of the show, but:

 

- I know the knockouts on display don't interest me. And I certainly know Miss Jackie and ODB aren't the solution to that.

- I know that Steiner is a poor in ring talent and so I'm not going to watch a 48 year old man take on a 40 year old man. I don't need to sit trough that so I won't

- I know that I get annoyed from Sting doing his goofy crap as well as him switching in and out of character (when Anderson mentioned it, going back in it for one example) and I know that I don't listen to Angle say he respects Sting, and quite frankly I'm not interest in a 52 year old (?) take on a 42 year old.

- I know I like Matt Morgan, Samoa Joe and AJ Styles. I know I'm undecided on Gunner, so I watch the match.

- I know that I don't find it cool for TNA to blatantly break kayfabe. O know I like EY, so I stuck and watched the whole segment.

- I know I really really like Alex Shelley and that BK is one of my favourites so I was delighted with that match.

- I know I am a big Beer Money fan and I know my dislike of the character Anarquia because of his loud, brash over the top fake Mexican voice is so bad it ruins a segment to the point I simply can not bear it.

- I know that having a 5 minute TAG TEAM Main Event is not going to be worth my time, because when I even attempt to get invested in it, it's over.

 

Make of that what you will, and take my opinion however you want to take it, if you think I'm wrong that's what makes it my opinion, if it was fact I wouldn't have said it. I hope you realise I haven't gone oh it's Sting I'll skip that, I've given a segment 2 minutes and it's got me to the point where I know I don't need to sit through it and so. I wanted to watch the show. I watched all of Raw on Monday and all of MITB and it is rare I do that.

 

I know which characters work for me and which don't it's not like I've seen a show and known what to expect and watched it to complain. If I saw Kazarian take on Robbie E or Amazing Red or, Beer Money or if The British Invasion were on the show. I would have watch if they advanced Pope vs Devon. I have not just tune in and span ahead I watch the show week in and week out and I don't want to seem like I'm going on (which I undoubtedly).

 

Please don't take my opinion seriously if you think it's a load of whatever, but it is there and it is true. I wish I enjoyed what I saw I didn't and I'm glad other people enjoyed it.

 

I was more confused by you criticising some parts that you said you didn't even watch more than anything.. also, the RVD/Steiner match wasn't bad, both guys are older for sure but they can both still put on good matches. Again, since it's Impact they gave it like six minutes, but for me it wasn't skip worthy.

 

Not trying to start an argument again, I just don't think people should bomb on things they didn't watch.. although I agree that Mexican America sucks, and the Knockouts stuff was too long.

[matthew222]

Part of me is saying, everybody thinks TNA has a better Women Division than WWE and TNA is just trying to rub in WWE's face 'We have a better women division!!'

[20LEgend]

I was more confused by you criticising some parts that you said you didn't even watch more than anything.. also, the RVD/Steiner match wasn't bad, both guys are older for sure but they can both still put on good matches. Again, since it's Impact they gave it like six minutes, but for me it wasn't skip worthy.

 

Not trying to start an argument again, I just don't think people should bomb on things they didn't watch.. although I agree that Mexican America sucks, and the Knockouts stuff was too long.

 

I didn't say bad about things I didn't watch I said overall the show dissapointed me with who was on it, I see what you mean, it's a fair point but I didn't say bad about RVD / Steiner, I say I was dissapointed with what was on. I just didn't like the content of the show and since I could have been doing other things than watching people I'm not interested in (unless he is cutting a promo in Steiner's case) I love RVD but knew it would be nothing special even if it was a decent. I wasn't bombing the parts I didn't see I was alking about the Velvet / Mickie James segment and Sting's gimmick and the knockouts segment, which I didn't like. Angle talking about respect I didn't like, also a five minute main event where Anderson was pinned cleanly (IIRC), so I also don't see how this can turn into an argument but I know the characters and the fact, the show spent a lot of time with the knockouts and Mexican America are featuring over talent I like annoys me and I personally dislike that the man who is the top dog in the country has a gimmick that is terribly off putting to me.

 

I honestly don't see where I said anything about the segments that I didn't watch other than the fact I skipped them. P.S If i did point it out and I'll hold my hands up as it may have come across in a way I was not intending it to

[MasterJ]

I liked the show overall, Sting is great at his new gimmick I didnt like it at first but he is more into it now.

[Jaysin]

I think my big thing with the new Sting gimmick is that he's my favorite wrestler(so I'm a little biased), but his last few angles he's done with TNA, he's seemed uninspired and like he's not having fun. He's having fun and its making me have fun.

 

It's why I like Tenay and Taz commentating together(though I'd prefer JB and Taz), they're having fun so it brings me fun and entertainment.

 

Also, I just noticed Velvet's shirt last night and it cracked me up

 

"Letting the pigeons loose since 2007" Gold

[tristram]

Thats how I've felt about TNA the last couple of years. I don't have a problem with the experienced wrestlers being there, but with most of them including Sting until late its been like watching the jaded has-been doing his last rounds of the territories and while wrestling or interviewing you can see his mind flicker "where the hell am I/what day do I collect my cheque". My thought was it was a distinct lack of professionalism and they were basically there for their last pay-day or if they got lucky a chance to do a 6 month stint back in the WWE... looking at Sting it looks like he's finally doing something he enjoys again. Sting and Ric Flair actually looked that way at the end of WCW, they'd wrestle in t-shirts as if to cover their shame.

[Basmat01]

Would anyone known the PPV company TNA was with when they were doing the weekly PPV's back in 2002/2003?

[Fantabulous]

Would anyone known the PPV company TNA was with when they were doing the weekly PPV's back in 2002/2003?

 

According to the always accurate Wikipedia, In Demand, Dish Network and DirecTV.

[Basmat01]

According to the always accurate Wikipedia, In Demand, Dish Network and DirecTV.

 

I didnt see that on there. must of missed it

[Fantabulous]

I didnt see that on there. must of missed it

 

Because your initial post was just full of information as to where you'd already looked. So back at you.

[Basmat01]

Because your initial post was just full of information as to where you'd already looked. So back at you.

 

Lol no seriously I didnt see that on wikipedia I used the wrong smiley face

[ZMAN]

I miss those little PPVs. They were like 10-15 dollars, and for a while I was ordering them instead of WWE's PPVs.

[stratusfaction]

http://www.rajahwwf.com and a few other wrestling sites are reporting that Spike TV is planning on re-branding itself in the next couple of months and catering to a different demography. They will probably be cutting ties with UFC programming and it looks like TNA Impact might be in jeopardy.

 

It's not a done deal yet and it's just speculation but if this happens and they can't find another network TNA is dead in the water

 

What do you guys think?

[BHK1978]

http://www.rajahwwf.com and a few other wrestling sites are reporting that Spike TV is planning on re-branding itself in the next couple of months and catering to a different demography. They will probably be cutting ties with UFC programming and it looks like TNA Impact might be in jeopardy.

 

It's not a done deal yet and it's just speculation but if this happens and they can't find another network TNA is dead in the water

 

What do you guys think?

 

Well if that is the case I do think TNA will be dead. After all I am not sure if any network would be intrested in them because their ratings are so low.

[stratusfaction]

Do you think Impact would be getting better ratings if they were on a different network like TBS or USA?

[20LEgend]

Isn't it (one of) the highest rated show on Spike, doubt they'll get rid of it.