The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

[The Final Countdown]

It wasn't all that long ago that I thought TNA was putting on the best product week in and week out, but I've really soured on the show lately. The BFG series was underwhelming, the A&8's story fell flat after what I felt was an excellent start, and this Dixie heel character is intolerable and has me thinking about deleting Impact from my recording schedule until she's no longer on the show every week cutting some of the worst promos I've ever heard.

[Rone Rivendale]

<p>Some of you sound like football fans who only cheer for their hometown team when they are winning and making the playoffs and then call them bums when they lose.</p><p> </p><p>

If you enjoy wrestling, then just sit back and enjoy it. Don't pick every little detail apart. You got TEW for that. #ITakeCheckorCashAdam</p>

[bigtplaystew]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Final Countdown" data-cite="The Final Countdown" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It wasn't all that long ago that I thought TNA was putting on the best product week in and week out, but I've really soured on the show lately. The BFG series was underwhelming, the A&8's story fell flat after what I felt was an excellent start, and this Dixie heel character is intolerable and has me thinking about deleting Impact from my recording schedule until she's no longer on the show every week cutting some of the worst promos I've ever heard.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yea when Bully Ray won the belt and got stuff thrown at him people were buzzing on TNA and they went on a not-so-steady increase in quality. They dropped the ball on the BFG series (which was a mess and should be awesome). I mean I know its hard to book but if TEW players can do it surely those who actually make money doing it can be bothered to do the extra work?</p><p> </p><p> I think BFG series is such a great idea nad gives run-of-the-mill matches extra meaning and intrigue. It fit that company well. Here's hoping they get it right next year.</p><p> </p><p> In TNA's defense it's still a good TV show with a great in-ring product. It's not as good as it was a few months ago and it needs to be. I also understand that their Main Event Mafia plans got shredded with Kurt Angle and Bellator pulling Rampage. So they had to improvise and allocate TV time elsewhere which probably messed up more than just the MEM.</p>

[TakerNGN74]

<p>Another thing that really bothers me when it comes to TNA is there championship title histories mainly their World Title History. I completely understand that a belt or a title is a prop in wrestling but they could at least have some prestige. </p><p> </p><p>

Take the World Title for instance In the 11+ years of this company's existance they haven't had a World Champion hold the belt <strong>FOR ONE YEAR</strong> </p><p> </p><p>

Instead they have a bubble gum booking philosophy and when someone gets hot they will give them the title (which makes sense) and then someone else will get hot so they will take the belt off the first guy to give it to the second guy and so on and so on. To the point where I can't ever get behind a TNA World Champion because I know that they wont keep it that long heck the longest reigns have been by Bobby Roode at 9 monthes, 9 Monthes that's not long at all. It just really bothers me.</p><p> </p><p>

I understand also that in today's wrestling a lot of people when I present this arguement will give me the whole "Well that's not how things work in today's wrestling" to which I would say well WWE did it with CM Punk having him hold the WWE title for 434 days so why Can't TNA at least have a champion hold their World Title for 365 days?</p><p> </p><p>

Rant over I digress.</p>

[TheWrestlingMan]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TakerNGN74" data-cite="TakerNGN74" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Another thing that really bothers me when it comes to TNA is there championship title histories mainly their World Title History. I completely understand that a belt or a title is a prop in wrestling but they could at least have some prestige. <p> </p><p> Take the World Title for instance In the 11+ years of this company's existance they haven't had a World Champion hold the belt <strong>FOR ONE YEAR</strong> </p><p> </p><p> Instead they have a bubble gum booking philosophy and when someone gets hot they will give them the title (which makes sense) and then someone else will get hot so they will take the belt off the first guy to give it to the second guy and so on and so on. To the point where I can't ever get behind a TNA World Champion because I know that they wont keep it that long heck the longest reigns have been by Bobby Roode at 9 monthes, 9 Monthes that's not long at all. It just really bothers me.</p><p> </p><p> I understand also that in today's wrestling a lot of people when I present this arguement will give me the whole "Well that's not how things work in today's wrestling" to which I would say well WWE did it with CM Punk having him hold the WWE title for 434 days so why Can't TNA at least have a champion hold their World Title for 365 days?</p><p> </p><p> Rant over I digress.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, but the title histories are messed up for TNA any way the have had the current TNA Championship since they split from NWA in what 06? They have no records of NWA title runs from 02-06 which I thing Jeff had over a year run I'm not too sure.</p>

[Stennick]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TakerNGN74" data-cite="TakerNGN74" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Another thing that really bothers me when it comes to TNA is there championship title histories mainly their World Title History. I completely understand that a belt or a title is a prop in wrestling but they could at least have some prestige. <p> </p><p> Take the World Title for instance In the 11+ years of this company's existance they haven't had a World Champion hold the belt <strong>FOR ONE YEAR</strong> </p><p> </p><p> Instead they have a bubble gum booking philosophy and when someone gets hot they will give them the title (which makes sense) and then someone else will get hot so they will take the belt off the first guy to give it to the second guy and so on and so on. To the point where I can't ever get behind a TNA World Champion because I know that they wont keep it that long heck the longest reigns have been by Bobby Roode at 9 monthes, 9 Monthes that's not long at all. It just really bothers me.</p><p> </p><p> I understand also that in today's wrestling a lot of people when I present this arguement will give me the whole "Well that's not how things work in today's wrestling" to which I would say well WWE did it with CM Punk having him hold the WWE title for 434 days so why Can't TNA at least have a champion hold their World Title for 365 days?</p><p> </p><p> Rant over I digress.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't agree with you that TNA needs a champion for over a year. I'm a numbers guy and I always believe the truth is in the numbers so here are some numbers to think about. </p><p> </p><p> First of all the longest reigning champion in "World" Champion in TNA's 11 year history is Jeff Jarrett he held the title for 347 days in 2004. Thats just 40 days short of John Cena's title reign that went over a year. </p><p> </p><p> Honestly we are way past the point of having a World Champion for a year. I know CM Punk did it and I know John Cena did it. HOWEVER outside of those two the last guy to hold the championship for that length of time was Diesal in 94/95. </p><p> </p><p> Since 1990 (23 years ago) 4 guys have held the WWE Championship for a year or longer. Ironically enough it was ELEVEN years in between Diesel and Cena's year long reigns. From 95 to 2006. It was another six years between Cena's and Punk's year long title reigns. Eleven years is the entire life of the company. Six years is HALF the life of the company. So the WWE has had two men hold the championship for a year since TNA was created. </p><p> </p><p> Of course the WWE has had as many as 6 hours of TV a week. And for the last ten years they treated themselves as two different companies with two different champions. So between the time they have on television as well as having the freedom of representing two companies with two world championships its MUCH easier to keep a world title on someone for a year. Even with that in mind they still have only done if four times in two and a half decades. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> TNA has had two hours of television for five years. In that time AJ Styles has had the title for 211 days, Bobby Roode held it for 256 days, Sting, Joe and Angle all had reigns of over 180 days. Jeff Hardy all had reigns of around 150 days. </p><p> </p><p> TNA has had 42 "recognized" World Champions in the last 11 years. Lets see what the WWE Title has been doing the last 11 years. </p><p> </p><p> TNA has one reign that is over 300 days, the WWE has two reigns that have been over 300 days. </p><p> </p><p> TNA has three guys with 200 plus day reigns. The WWE has four guys with 200 plus day reigns not including the 300 day reigns. </p><p> </p><p> TNA has 15 guys that have title reigns of 100 to 199 days. WWE has 7. </p><p> </p><p> So as you can see they are not that far apart as far as title reign lengths go. Also look at John Cena's reign. Its during that reign that the fans starting cheering TRIPLE H. Look at Jeff Jarrett's "planet Jarrett" reign of 350 days. Was THAT a good reign? </p><p> </p><p> Now on the flip side during what most consider the WWE's hottest time period the "attitude era" we didn't have a single year long world champion. Yet guys like Rock, Austin, Foley, even Triple H didn't come close to a year. </p><p> </p><p> I'm not advocating short title reigns but the last five TNA champions outside of that Chris Sabin blunder all have 100 day reigns. Of all the things wrong with TNA I wouldn't say title reign lengths are one. Whats that saying its not quantity its quality.</p>

[MrSelfDestruct]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> I'm not advocating short title reigns but the last five TNA champions outside of that Chris Sabin blunder all have 100 day reigns. Of all the things wrong with TNA I wouldn't say title reign lengths are one. Whats that saying its not quantity its quality.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I for one question who they put the title on, because some guys have deserved good reigns and others havent deserve one at all. Some of the former champions of their's are just silly. I love Sabin, but as a world champion, IDK.. And Bully Ray drives me nuts, he is a good heel but god is he annoying, and not in a good heel kinda way. </p><p> </p><p> To halfways agree with the guy you were replying to, I think with how hot Aries was when he won the title, the moment that got me to watch wrestling again might I add, he could've gotten some prestige for the belt by holding it a year.</p><p> </p><p> They just have trouble establishing stars, seems they don't know the difference between upper midcarders and main eventers. When their title can't even get someone to that next level, they haven't exactly booked it well.</p>

[TakerNGN74]

I actually was able to watch the show tonight being that I was home and I thought it was a decent show but a TERRIBLE show considering it was the go home show before their biggest pay per view of the year. At least the final angle was good but i'm not sold on BFG on Sunday at all.

[MrSelfDestruct]

<p>every single title changed hands (minus the basically non-existant TV title). Not exactly predictable, but not a smart move A reality TV "star" ( who I have never heard of before in my life before he was in TNA) is half of the tag champs, a 280 pounder in Samoa Joe competes for a title that is supposed to have a 230 lbs. weight limit, and TNA's own version of Cena won the title. </p><p> </p><p>

AJ is okay, but I just hope they handle this right. I'm assuming they are just trying to revamp their company, but idk how much of a shot they actually have.</p>

[20LEgend]

<p>I thought the PPV was weak and there wasn't either a big show feel or any great matches. I thought they should've put stuff to bed for a 'revamp' because to me the Main Event was an extended angle. It's pretty unfair to compare it to Mania I guess, but as their version I expected clean finishes and the Angle segment after was weird. Bad Influence were great again.</p><p> </p><p>

That said the reality TV star happens to also be a pretty good wrestler, I've been plesantly surprised by Jesse, expecting him to be terrible and to hate but he's actual good from what I've seen and not nearly as annoying as I thought he would be (I was expecting Miz level's of annoyance <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />) </p><p> </p><p>

How is AJ TNA's Cena btw?</p>

[LordJaguar]

I think Samoa Joe competing for the X title is fine, they advertise that belt as being about no limits not weight limits.

[Teh_Showtime]

<p>I just hate the fact that Jeff Hardy and Austin Aries were in a throwaway match because they couldn't find anything for them to do it's a colossal waste of two of their biggest stars. They couldn't face each other since that was last year's event, but them along with Bad Influence not being in important matches is disappointing to say the least because those four are some of the more consistent workers in TNA and have star power that I think the show needed more of. Speaking of star power, hopefully James Storm can go back solo again. He was the hottest thing in TNA and maybe wrestling last year at this time, now he's a midcard tag team act.</p><p> </p><p>

Sting vs Magnus was absolutely terrible. I wasn't expecting even a good match since to me Sting hasnt been good in the ring since about 95 and he's been declining since, but the match was slow, awkward, and just bad all around. It felt like a walkthrough instead of the semi main event of the biggest show of the year.</p><p> </p><p>

Angle vs Roode was really good but I really disliked the finish. It has kind of become Roode's thing (look at his title reign from last year, cage vs Storm match vs Sting) but it just makes matches anti-climatic and for the one match that was actually worthy of being a big match on a big show it was a letdown.</p><p> </p><p>

Bully vs AJ went as expected can't really be too upset at least AJ got the clean win. I am still baffled that they didn't even wait 5 minutes before bringing out the help for Bully. They could have put on a good 10-15 minutes of straight action before all of the inevitable antics IMO</p>

[TheWrestlingMan]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="petecrimson00" data-cite="petecrimson00" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>every single title changed hands (minus the basically non-existant TV title). Not exactly predictable, but not a smart move A reality TV "star" ( who I have never heard of before in my life before he was in TNA) is half of the tag champs, a 280 pounder in Samoa Joe competes for a title that is supposed to have a 230 lbs. weight limit, and TNA's own version of Cena won the title. <p> </p><p> AJ is okay, but I just hope they handle this right. I'm assuming they are just trying to revamp their company, but idk how much of a shot they actually have.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> X-Division is about No limits they've never had a weight limit Joes has held the title 2/3 times.</p><p> </p><p> Jesse is a good wrestler he was wrestling before he was a reality star and plus Miz is a reality star and he held the WWE Championship</p><p> </p><p> Overall I was somewhat disappointing and glad I didn't order the PPV. Having a squash match on your biggest ppv of the year is terrible, plus the X-Division match should have been alot better and longer. </p><p> </p><p> I do like the new announcer they have, I also loved Roode/Angle and AJ/Bully but I was hoping for more run ins in that match tbh.</p><p> </p><p> Overall I give BFG a 6/10 and the only reason it is that high is the two matches above.</p>

[Rone Rivendale]

<p>Actually they changed the X Division so it DOES have a weight limit. Joe is the first competitor since the change to be over weight (I don't remember the new limit). But that's TNA, they forget their own stuff all the time.</p><p> </p><p>

And AJ is not the Cena of TNA. Jarrett used to be but that ended when him and his Dad sold it to Panda.</p>

[Jaysin]

Bischoff created one in 2011, it was 225lbs. When Hogan became general manager it was quietly forgotten about. Considering Joe competed for it and so did RVD.

 

I've avoided results for Bound for Glory for the most part and I'll post my thoughts when I'm done.

[Rickymex]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Bischoff created one in 2011, it was 225lbs. When Hogan became general manager it was quietly forgotten about. Considering Joe competed for it and so did RVD.<p> </p><p> I've avoided results for Bound for Glory for the most part and I'll post my thoughts when I'm done.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> They reinstated another one at 230? when they made the three-way rule. It was just stupid to do that considering they had a very small X-Division and they kept bringing guys in to fill in the spots without letting them actually be important.</p>

[Jaysin]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rickymex" data-cite="Rickymex" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>They reinstated another one at 230? when they made the three-way rule. It was just stupid to do that considering they had a very small X-Division and they kept bringing guys in to fill in the spots without letting them actually be important.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's right. I knew they instated another one, I just forgot when.</p>

[TakerNGN74]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Angle vs Roode was really good but I really disliked the finish. It has kind of become Roode's thing (look at his title reign from last year, cage vs Storm match vs Sting) but it just makes matches anti-climatic and for the one match that was actually worthy of being a big match on a big show it was a letdown.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> ^</p><p> This, the match between Roode and Angle was great easily a four star match If I may say so (Not sure if many people would agree) it could be a five star match had it not been for the crappy finish.</p><p> </p><p> This is why I hate TNA, they try to be way to creative with finishes by doing ones that are not clean or finishes that are overbooked. I understand overbooking one finish on a show (namely the main event because that's usually where it should happen) but TNA does it all the time and it really bothers me. They try their best to throw in swerves and overbook every match they can to the point where nobody not even the fans know what is going on. </p><p> </p><p> Heck if I am watching TNA and I see a clean finish, I start to forget what show I am watching because lets face it clean finishes in TNA aren't common place.</p>

[TheWrestlingMan]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TakerNGN74" data-cite="TakerNGN74" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>^<p> This, the match between Roode and Angle was great easily a four star match If I may say so (Not sure if many people would agree) it could be a five star match had it not been for the crappy finish.</p><p> </p><p> This is why I hate TNA, they try to be way to creative with finishes by doing ones that are not clean or finishes that are overbooked. I understand overbooking one finish on a show (namely the main event because that's usually where it should happen) but TNA does it all the time and it really bothers me. They try their best to throw in swerves and overbook every match they can to the point where nobody not even the fans know what is going on. </p><p> </p><p> Heck if I am watching TNA and I see a clean finish, I start to forget what show I am watching because lets face it clean finishes in TNA aren't common place.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Last night was the first time post Russo they had alot of bad endings. I liked the end to the Roode/Angle match tbh, I would give it a 5 star rating and one of the best matches of the year so far.</p><p> </p><p> I didn't like the X-divison ending, the knockout match ending, or the ending to the Magnus/Sting match though.</p><p> </p><p> Overall I agree there were too many bad finishes in the ppv.</p>

[Teh_Showtime]

<p>Even before the ending I still think it's below a few of the AJ/Aries matches but I could at least deal with their finish last night over the one from the near double pin in the one AJ/Aries match</p><p> </p><p>

Far from five stars though imo. I felt like that match had another 10 if not 20 more minutes of quality action (starting with a kickout by Angle on the deciding fall) which would have pushed it into epic territory for me.</p>

[Jaysin]

Not that anyone cares, but I finally finished BFG. I avoided results until I watched it.

 

Bound for Glory Thoughts

Jeff Hardy vs Austin Aries vs Chris Sabin vs Samoa Joe vs Manik© for X Division Title

Jeff Hardy’s new song sucks. I miss his heel theme.

Sabin’s music is awful. I forgot how the majority of TNA’s themes are awful.

Joe really needs to go back to wearing tight shorts instead of those track shorts.

This is the first time I’ve heard Manik’s non Suicide music, I dig it, but prefer Suicide’s.

Jeff Hardy really looks like he is a house painter…

Taz isn’t so bad on commentary this show, “vegan strength”. Haha!

A ladder? What happened to no ladders allowed in Ultimate X? That makes it far less unique of a match.

Everything Manik does is just so fluid.

I can’t figure out who the crowd loves more, Joe or Aries.

Joe’s sleeper spin thing was sweet!

I’m still a fan of the Whisper in the Wind. Such a beautiful move.

NO LADDERS! UGH!

I feel like the ladder is only allowed because Austin Aries has been bitching in the media about Ultimate X.

Heel Sabin is hysterical, but man he sold that Twist of Fate amazingly.

LOL! Velvet in the ring!

Wow, horrible finish.

Not a bad match, but not a good Ultimate X match.

No psychology or story telling.

 

I miss Jerry Lynn.

 

Bad Influence

Kazarian has really improved on the mic, and Daniels is by far my favorite thing about wrestling.

Joe Pancake! A lawyer and a fisherman at best? Ha!

LOL! Swerves and curves for all the bags of douche?

The crowd wants Bad Influence in the match! But who wouldn’t?

Return of Abyss? Not sure how I feel about it, but I’ve always liked Abyss more than most people.

 

Gunner & James Storm© vs BroMans for the Tag Team Titles

Gunner’s beard makes him look less generic.

I love James Storm

Mr Olympia is a tank!

I love Gunner’s nick name, Modern Day Viking.

I wish Gunner and Storm had a tag name…

Jesse isn’t too shabby, and Gunner has improved a lot.

I know I’m alone, but I love Robbie.

BroMans are following heel tag team tactics 101 and that’s ok.

It’s so weird that Gunner is the one in the face team taking all the heat.

Mr Olympia looks like he’s having a blast.

Super fallaway slam! I love it!

This match is like rednecks vs fratboys.

Gun Rack is such a stupid name.

Awesome double team move, power bomb into backstabber

This match is way better than the Ultimate X Match.

I dig BroMans’ Hart Attack variation.

They need new music, but I love them together.

Good match, enjoyed it a lot.

 

I wish I could have gone to last year’s Hall of Fame ceremony because Sting is my all time favorite wrestler, and this year’s ceremony was no different. I would have loved to be there. Kurt was so incredibly nice and appreciative when I met him that it made me like him that much more.

Kurt Angle has one of my favorite themes in TNA, even if it’s just a generic rap song.

Him rejecting the Hall of Fame was a total shock, but if that’s a legit reason, props to him.

 

Dixie Carter looks like hell. She used to be a cougar.

I love Ethan Carter III already, but then again, I’m a Michael Hutter fanboy.

 

Knockouts Title match

Gail Kim vs Brooke vs ODB©

Brooke might have the best butt in the biz.

I still don’t like ODB.

I can’t get into this match, it’s not bad, I just can’t get into it for some reason.

ODB’s holding Gail and Brooke up was awesome.

Lei’d Tapa is a beast! Awesome that Gail won!

I like the pairing.

Do they acknowledge that Lei’D is Barbarian’s niece?

 

BroMans backstage segment was HYSTERICAL!

"How are you going to celebrate your tag title victory?"

Jesse: "Guys...protein shakes!!"

 

Roode vs Angle is the match I have the highest hopes for.

SUCH A GOOD MATCH!

I forgot I was typing this up at the same time.

Roode and Angle could face each other constantly and I’d never be let down.

Roode did a TKO, but a neckbreaker variation, sweet.

Seriously, I love this match.

At the edge of my seat with Angle grapevining the leg and Roode passing out. Hebner basically put Roode’s hand on the rope…bull shit.

Super Angle Slam!

Kind of an anticlimactic finish, but I’m glad Roode won.

I would have preferred if Angle passed out inside the Crossface

Great, great match. Definitely the match of the nigh so far.

Taz was great in this. He abandoned the corny jokes and really helped sell the story in the ring.

 

EC3 vs Norv Fernum

Squash written all over it.

Kind of weird to have a debut match at Bound for Glory, but like I said earlier, I love Hutter.

Lol @ “Let’s go Carter” “EC3” dueling chant.

 

Sting vs Magnus

Sting’s Union Jack shirt is awesome, but it drives me insane that he doesn’t take his shirt off.

Magnus using the MEM logo on his trunks in his name is pretty spiffy

A pretty meh match, right man won.

Hilarious that they show a clip of AJ pinning Magnus right after Magnus had his supposed career making match.

 

AJ vs Bully Ray© for TNA Title

I love AJ’s music.

Brooke is completely no selling the asskicking she got…

AJ’s chest is gross looking after all those chops…

I love when Earl Hebner gets all worked up and spazzes out.

God, that boot to AJ’s abdomen when he was on the apron…ouch

450 through the table was gnarly, definitely deserves the holy shit chant.

I’ve been in a TNA ring before, is it really wise to show off the thick padding? Lol

God I love the spring board 450

The back body drop onto the boards made me cringe.

It’s just odd seeing Bubba come off the ropes.

Dixie’s hair is just ugly

So pumped AJ won

What happened to the resurrected Aces & 8’s Bully Ray talked about?

 

People are tearing this PPV apart and I don’t really get why. It wasn’t bad in the slightest and I was entertained by the majority of it. My only real issue with the show as a whole is that it didn't feel special. It didn't feel like their biggest show of the year.

[TakerNGN74]

People are tearing this PPV apart and I don’t really get why. It wasn’t bad in the slightest and I was entertained by the majority of it. My only real issue with the show as a whole is that it didn't feel special. It didn't feel like their biggest show of the year.

 

Just wanted to respond to this, this pay per view wasn't great but it wasn't terrible either. There were a few good matches and Angle vs. Roode was fantastic minus the weird finish. Having said that Angle vs. Roode was the only match that made me believe I was watching TNA's biggest show of the year. Other than said match though the ppv was average at best.

[MrSelfDestruct]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> Not a bad match, but not a good Ultimate X match. </p><p> No psychology or story telling.</p><p> </p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> are you kidding me? lol</p><p> </p><p> Those matches are always more about spots than psychology or story telling</p>

[Jaysin]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="petecrimson00" data-cite="petecrimson00" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>are you kidding me? lol<p> </p><p> Those matches are always more about spots than psychology or story telling</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm well aware that they're generally spotfests, but this wasn't even really a spot fest. It was five guys with tiny bursts of offense with a few good spots. Usually, there's at least some kind of story in the match itself, but this one had nothing and the ladder killed the match.</p>

[MrSelfDestruct]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm well aware that they're generally spotfests, but this wasn't even really a spot fest. It was five guys with tiny bursts of offense with a few good spots. Usually, there's at least some kind of story in the match itself, but this one had nothing and the ladder killed the match.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I haven't watched it and probably won't was it worse than the Zema Ion one from Destnation X last year? That one was borrrrring</p><p> </p><p> I'm sure the finish was because Sabin has torn both ACLs though.. I tore one of my own and I can't imagine scaling that rope.</p>