kckid4u Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 I'm reading Bret Harts book, and just read last night that Steamboat wrestled matches with Bret and Macho Man in the WWF around late 1988. Not sure if he was still there by sept 89 or not. I think he may have been. At least Bret Hart doesn't mention him leaving, but I'm just now reading the part that covers 1989. EDIT: It looks like Gaz is right. According to this page there is no mention of a match with Steamboat anywhere in the WWF during 1989. See below. http://www.softwolves.pp.se/wrestling/wwf/1989 Looks like he was in the WCW around July of 89 and must have left the WCW shortly after July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selfphobe Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 1989 was the year Steamboat had some legendary matches with Ric Flair. One in February, one in April, and one in May if I'm not mistaken. By September though he was no longer with the NWA, hilarious ball dropping by them if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selfphobe Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 For some reason, every time I sim a few months from a new game Bret Hart leaves the WWF and eventually ends up with NWA. That's just messed up! Not sure what's causing it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazwefc83 Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 Think its because he is listed as a technical wrestler, iv changed him in the update to an entertainer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genadi Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Maybe a loyalty to Vince McMahon also, if there isn't one already that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazwefc83 Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 I think there is because i get the owner goal about pushing bret, but yes bret should have loyality to the wwf On that note pat paterson has a best friend relation with vince but gets fired nearly all the time, strange! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdWarrior Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Been looking forward to this one a while. Is there a zip file somewhere? As it stands now, I don't have the rar thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazwefc83 Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 Not at the moment, it took long enough to upload the first time lol. Winrar only takes seconds to download and seconds to install Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genadi Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 I think there is because i get the owner goal about pushing bret, but yes bret should have loyality to the wwf On that note pat paterson has a best friend relation with vince but gets fired nearly all the time, strange! You've got too many guys who can act as a road agent, Fabulous Moolah, Tim White, Tully Blanchard, Jimmy Snuka, Lanny Pofo, Dave Hebner definitely shouldn't have much if any booking skills let alone have that role active as even "Sometimes". I think there's a few others there I saw that weren't really road agents yet at that time. Just did a quick test with those guys I listed set to not be able to work as road agents and Patterson doesn't get the sack Few other RA's do though but lil more tweaking you can prob clear it up easy enough. I know it's a pain to balance the mod so you don't have 50 releases on day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazwefc83 Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 Cheers matey, any tips on not getting elizabeth fired and mr fuji haha, ill look into the roles today myself see what i can come up with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genadi Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Try setting playing with "Personality" or "Manager" role, the AI must have a limit on how many you have. Took me alot of tweaking, just trial and error, even for MA as polished as I have I think I have it now I can't avoid 3 releases in particular. Something I just thought when looking in the editor at the data, if you like you can add any workers from MA when it hits. A good way to do it is (try and stay with me here )... Go into the MA mod Change the start date to Oct 1989 Go into the Workers files Filter "Yet to Debut" Export the list showing to Spreadsheet Go into NHB and use the list to know which guys to import Obviously some editing is still needed to those workers but all the time on birthdays, race, debut dates etc will be done for you If that sounds easy enough please feel free to use whatever you need from my mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazwefc83 Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 Cheers matey ill do that, thanks iv got it down now to: jerry brisco, strongbow, moolah, danny davis and elizabeth getting sacked. Iv checked the ideal roster and theres just noway to get the sackings down any further Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genadi Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Cheers matey ill do that, thanks iv got it down now to: jerry brisco, strongbow, moolah, danny davis and elizabeth getting sacked. Iv checked the ideal roster and theres just noway to get the sackings down any further Sacrifice is a necessity sometimes, if it prevents a really unusual event especially. I'd delete Arnold Skaaland's contract as a starting point. Were Strongbow and Danny Davis definitely working as a road agent for them at the time? If not I'd axe em yourself save the AI doing it. (Just did a quick check Davis was working almost always as a ref for WWF at the time). I'd set Fabulous Moolah to Personality: Never and change Occasional Wrestler: Usually Change Lanny Poffo so he can't work as a manager and set him as an active or occasional worker. Should keep Elizabeth with that Ok enough of my head buried in your data back to mine (Happy to help anytime dude just lemme know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazwefc83 Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 I had already changed alot of what you just post after your earlier post but iv now release skaaland and strongbow. On the first day only danny davis got released! Great stuff. Same goes btw if theres anything you think i can help you with just let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kckid4u Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 For some reason, every time I sim a few months from a new game Bret Hart leaves the WWF and eventually ends up with NWA. That's just messed up! Not sure what's causing it though. This is actually pretty true to life. From reading Bret Hart's book, just last night, he was offered a $200,000 contract by Ric Flair (who was the head booker) of the NWA/WCW right at the start of 1989 and Bret was going to sign with them, but it turned out Flair didn't have the power to do so, and the guy who did lowered the offer to $156,000 which was about as much as he was making with the WWF, so he stayed in the WWF. So, he would have gone to the NWA/WCW if it were not for the drop in the offer, which he said made him feel "slighted." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Fenoli Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 I had already changed alot of what you just post after your earlier post but iv now release skaaland and strongbow. On the first day only danny davis got released! Great stuff. Same goes btw if theres anything you think i can help you with just let me know any plans of releasing these small changes soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazwefc83 Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 On monday ill be releasing an update. It will include: the tweaks mentioned in this thread, afew minor tweaks iv noticed myself, more agers (not alot), just a basic fix up really. It shouldnt effect any games your wanting to start a great deal but its up to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selfphobe Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 NWA gets really, really huge in a short time period in the game by the way. They go from Cult to Global in like a year. I know this would be very hard to tweak but basically the company was run by morons until Bischoff took over VP. They had a fantastic talent roster in 1989 so I imagine it'd be pretty challenging to try to keep them crap in terms of AI booking. Just thought I'd point it out anyway though heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selfphobe Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Hehe I saw that you fixed Bret leaving WWF issue but man is it strange in my one sim test he's working PPA for both NWA and WWF. That's just awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieFnG Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 To fix the NWA problem.. maybe some alternates or narratives or whatever you use that kinda gives em some setbacks like the booker's being a dumbass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugeRockStar760 Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 For some reason, every time I sim a few months from a new game Bret Hart leaves the WWF and eventually ends up with NWA. That's just messed up! Not sure what's causing it though. Actually, that's not messed up. This is really accurate because Bret Hart was very close to jumping from the WWF to the NWA. But Jim Herd dropped the ball again. In fact, if you believe the Wrestling Observer and it's a credible source, the NWA were also looking at The Rockers, Curt Hennig, Ted DiBiase and Randy Savage. They were only able to bring back Arn Anderson though. Also, I wouldn't put Bret Hart as loyal to Vince McMahon, at least not in 1989. If there's a way to make it for a few years later, sure. But not in late 1989. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugeRockStar760 Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Gaz, I noticed NWA Power Hour wasn't included as a TV show. Is this by design? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D16NJD16 Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 This thing still realistically should be a long ways away from a release? I was encouaged when you took down your original relase of it, days after TEW 2010 came out, and made it a Beta. People seemed to be finding alot of critical errors and helping you out with them. Why the rush for a release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugeRockStar760 Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 The thing is, from what I've seen, the people finding "flaws" weren't even born in 1989 and don't understand a few major things (for example, the Ricky Steamboat comment was a WTF moment considering 1989 was the Year of the Dragon in the NWA). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selfphobe Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 There are still plenty of people pointing out things and helping out. I really don't care if it's a full release or beta or whatever, I'm just glad the mod exists and want it to be as close to perfect as it can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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