The Video Game Thread

[K-Nection]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Smasher1311" data-cite="Smasher1311" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If you want a basketball game, do get NBA Live. The gameplay is also bad because rebounds are terrible, you can't rebound at all, but they actually try and bring something new every year, they actually try to give you a realistic game and I'm positive that NBA Live 17 will be a great game. 16 has many flaws on gameplay like rebounding, but it's a much slower, smarter game, people don't jack up threes all the time and there's way less cheesiness and much, much better presentation, immersion, and enjoyment.<p> </p><p> I'm done.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That is probably the first time in mankind's history I seen someone recommend NBA Live over 2k</p>

[Clarity]

I'll give the people what they asked for. Even if you were joking. I just need to tell the world how bad this game is. It's not even that terrible, it's just so arrogant, so irritating, and that's not what I look for when I'm playing a game during my free time.

 

First problem is, the immersion/presentation. The arena sounds for offense and defense are mostly the same in every arena, even though that's not the case in real life. The Spurs have their ''Go Spurs Go'' sound, the Warriors have their nice own defense sounds, the Raptors have the ''Let's go Raptors'' sounds and etcetera. 2K must have felt like their own sounds would have been fun additions, but no, it breaks the feel for the game, at least for me. They did a good job with the unique, real life buzzer sounds, and SOME sounds are there like the Nets substitution whistle and ''Let's go Warriors'', but not enough at all compared to NBA Live, whose biggest pro is exactly the immersion, compared to a huge con in its gameplay. While 2K's gameplay is better, its cheesiness doesn't make it a hell lot better, but just a bit better. I'll get to that later. Back to the subject at hand, I don't think there are any problems in placing the sounds in the game, it's just 2K's laziness. I want to feel like I'm playing a real game, not a 2K product. UFC 2 makes me forget that I'm playing something made by EA and makes me think that I'm truly playing a real fight. NBA Live makes me forget thtat I'm playing something made by EA and makes me think that I'm playing a real basketball game. I want that.

 

Commentary has improved, but hear me out for a second. The NEW third commentators are the improvement. Barry, Burke, Steve Smith, Webber, they all bring some fun opinions and discussions about the teams. Barry is the best one hands down. However, Harlan, Anthony and Kellogg are absolutely atrocious. The former two are a real shame because Harlan is great in real life and should definitely get a Finals gig for once (I do prefer Breen, and that brings my mind to a stalemate), and Anthony is not bad either based on a 2013 playoff game I watched last year. Kellogg based on this game makes me want to turn off a game if I ever see it's going to feature him on commentary. Thank goodness it's never happened yet. The reason for the hate? Well, they rarely complement your team on good plays, never complain about bad calls going either way like good real life commentators would do occasionally, throw the AI's greatness in your face when they do stuff that I will tell you about later, plus the fact that their dialogue is recycled as hell and yes, it's terrible. Kellogg is the worst, he suggests illogical stuff all the time, complains about your team the most, raves about the other team the most, and his voice is just not enjoyable to listen to. When you hit a big dunk, his lines sound like they came from a PS1 game. Hell, all his lines sound terrible and lazy and just good lord, he's terrible. I think you got the message. Breen and JVG have fewer lines in NBA Live but they're far more enjoyable to listen to and actually bring constructive arguments.

 

Online is way better to play than offline when you find a good opponent, but more often than not you will face a dude who will jack up threes every possession, and he will most likely be using the Golden State Warriors. And they will always hit. All-Star, in which you choose a player from a specific position in a conference to play with 4 more players from that conference against 5 guys from the other conference, has the same problem. Playing with guys who move the ball to find the open man gives you a great time, but you might also be paired with ballhogs who never pass or face a team with a three point specialist who will jack up impossible threes that will hit either way. The ball movement is not a problem of the game per se, it just shows how mature the majority of this game's players are, but a solution would be nice. An option to send a video to 2K to prove that the player is making your experience bad or something. I don't know if that's possible. But moving on...

 

MyTeam has improved, but the run and gun style of Domination is very tiresome and Blacktop is the second worst mode of the game. 99% of the players just jack up threes and win. There's no ball movement, so most of the time when I see it will go that way I just stand there and watch them do their ''magic''. The draft is a joke, since the game purposely gives you worse cards than the board has sometimes. Still, building your team is fun, the challenges are nice, and if you do enjoy running like an idiot every offensive possession for a dunk or a three, Domination will be fine as well. I'd say MyTeam as a whole is a pro, but Blacktop is terrible.

 

MyLeague is the best mode of the game, so if you want a reason to buy it, it's a good one. You can control the whole league if you want, watch it develop, develop one team, two teams, all the teams yourself...it's another pro. But I'll tell you already that we are running out of them.

 

MyGM has one small, simple problem...the players act like 2 year olds all the time. I have a 2016-2020 Lakers save, and currently, D'Angelo Russell, Brandon Ingram and Harrison Barnes are all pissed off at me. D'Lo is my franchise player and 3-time MVP of the league, so naturally I wanted to renew his contract when it came up. I did as soon as it did. Inexplicably, the next day he comes to me asking to renew his contract. I promise him that I will, since I have done it already. One week later he comes up and says that I broke my promise. WHAT? There isn't an option to tell him I've done it already, so I must promise him again. The next week, his morale goes to 0 and he's pissed at me, doesn't want to talk to me again, his overall drops to 86 (From 90) and hurts the overall morale since he's the team leader. Harrison Barnes, my sixth man, also has his morale dropped to 0 for two reasons...he wants me to drop the training intensity, so I do. However, Russell wants me to raise the intensity, so naturally I listen to the leader. Barnes comes out and requests the same thing he did before, so I take a look at the training menu and see that I'm able to drop Barnes' intensity and let the rest of the team like it is. For some reason, that doesn't count as his request, so he also tells me that I broke that promise. Not only that, but he also wants me to move Brandon Ingram (Who has a higher overall than Barnes) to sixth man and give him the starting job, even though he's had more minutes than Ingram and is a sixth man of the year candidate. I deny that request, his morale drops to 0, he calls me a tyrant. Very mature. When I move him to the starting role after this madness, Ingram gets pissed. Very freaking mature. But BUY LOADS OF VC and you will be able to give them some kool-aid and their morale will be back to 100! AMAZING!

 

I'm almost done, just two more arguments here. MyCareer...is trash. The very worst mode of the game. First of all, forget realism in this mode. It's gone. The so much hyped story? Nonexistent. A way to improve skills, attributes? WELL, BUY MORE FREAKING VC, YOU MORON! If you're playing in a difficulty higher than Pro, prepare to have a major headache. The difficulties change nothing but the field goal percentage from your team and the other team. So basically, the easier ones mean you will hit more shots, the other team will miss more shots. The harder ones mean your team will jack up bad shots and miss all of them, the other team will jack up terrible shots and hit all of them. The guards will more often than not be ballhogs and look for the worst shot possible. If you play Golden State, there is no way to defend them, because there will always be an open man since your team can't defend and they will always hit their threes. I've lost a 30 point lead to them in a FOURTH QUARTER because my team settled for terrible shots and misses, while they jacked up and hit impossible threes with Curry, Thompson, Durant, Green, and my matchup FREAKING ZAZA PACHULIA who hit a 24-second buzzer beater in my face, which means it was a contested shot, do you think he hits threes in real life, open or contested? (He doesn't.) That's exactly what happens all the time when the AI runs the pick and roll, there's always someone open.

 

When you use a Center, it's basically a game of who gets to the paint first. Let me elaborate, Ed Davis, a defensive-minded Center murders me with like 20 ppg every game I have against the Trail Blazers because this game likes it. Anderson Varejao, a freaking corpse at this point in real life from my beautiful country who flops to draw fouls and does nothing else in real life at this point, moves like he's Russell Westbrook and hits layups in my face. Pachulia hit a three in my face like I mentioned. He's not a shooter and much less a three point shooter. The AI will throw perfect baseball passes (Fullcourt passes) after a defensive rebound to their Center and if you're not there, it's two more points for them, so you can't defend anyone else who's truly an offensive threat who your team is failing to defend because the game doesn't want you to. If YOU try a baseball pass to someone else or your team tries a baseball pass to you, though, the AI will steal said pass 99% of the time. Also, you and your team can't defend for nothing, but the AI will stick like glue to you, which is VERY REALISTIC, and chances are, when you find an opening for a dunk or a layup, the magicians will still find a way to block your shot or draw a charge as soon as the ball makes its way to your hands. It's ridiculous. Your defender can be 20 feet away from you, but if someone gives you the ball for a three, he will become The Flash and find his way to contest your shot 99% of the time. Guys like Steve Nash will become Dwight Howard and block your shots to the stands from out of nowhere. Your team will never defend in transition. If you attempt to steal the ball one-on-one, it will most likely result in a reach-in foul, even if the reach-in animation doesn't activate, which means you basically get a foul for breathing. The AI will always be able to steal the ball from you when they try to. Glitches will be in favor of the AI 99% of the time, like shots going through the backboard and into the basket. The commentators will act like it's a realistic game and the AI's team is the greatest of all time as I said before, so this game will hurt your brain, your eyes and your ears. I don't recommend this kind of pain to any human being. Please do something better with your time.

 

I won't even talk about MyPark, sharpshooters and the enormous glitches that ruin the fun in that mode. Find yourself a video or a thread to know more about that. I'm done with it.

 

If you want a basketball game, do get NBA Live. The gameplay is also bad because rebounds are terrible, you can't rebound at all, but they actually try and bring something new every year, they actually try to give you a realistic game and I'm positive that NBA Live 17 will be a great game. 16 has many flaws on gameplay like rebounding, but it's a much slower, smarter game, people don't jack up threes all the time and there's way less cheesiness and much, much better presentation, immersion, and enjoyment.

 

I'm done.

 

Initially I enjoyed 2k17 but it got grindy fast. With a x2 multiplier for Hall Of Fame, you're looking at 1,200VC per great game and with about 110,000 needed roughly to max out a character, then thats about 90 top notch games. Anything less than HoF mode and you're looking at about a season and a half to max a player.... Yawn

 

HOWEVER.. when you decide to boot the game up towards the end of the first season and 2K servers decide that your file is corrupted and the player is gone, the game went straight back into the case and sold faster than you can say VC

[Clarity]

Picked up The Ezio Collection on Xbox 1 since I loved the trilogy originally, and I must say that they missed a trick.

 

Whilst its a collection of all 3 games, they are separate and you pick on a menu which game you want and it loads it as if you had put a disc in. If you want to play a later mission, you have to quit back to the main menu and load the other game.

 

What they should have done was allowed us to move back and forth through Ezios years as if it was 1 game using the DNA screen they had in their games anyway.

 

Don't get me wrong.. Love the game, but still... grrrrr

[cappyboy]

Hey guys, anybody played Catherine? Really need to get out of a gaming rut as in the last several months I've been mostly in a Batman groove having gone through Arkham Asylum and City back to back twice. And then last night I just finished Sly 4 for the second time. No secret I love the Cooper series. But yeah. After all those well-worn steps, something a bit off the beaten path would be welcome. Just really don't know if Catherine is the move to make or not. Was at Gamestop yesterday looking the case to try and get a feel for it and nothing that game synopsis said really helped. I'd be spending birthday money on whatever game I choose so I want to get it right.

[Celuwyn]

Hey guys, anybody played Catherine? Really need to get out of a gaming rut as in the last several months I've been mostly in a Batman groove having gone through Arkham Asylum and City back to back twice. And then last night I just finished Sly 4 for the second time. No secret I love the Cooper series. But yeah. After all those well-worn steps, something a bit off the beaten path would be welcome. Just really don't know if Catherine is the move to make or not. Was at Gamestop yesterday looking the case to try and get a feel for it and nothing that game synopsis said really helped. I'd be spending birthday money on whatever game I choose so I want to get it right.

 

It's weird. Like, really weird. look video on youtube because.. it's something you don't see often

[Poputt]

Catherine is one of my favorite games. Only problem is that it's not really replayable. There are also survey questions you get asked between missions and it's pretty funny (or scary) to see the results.

[fullMETAL]

According to the Steam page for WWE 2k17 PC, the tentative release date will be February 7th.

Meanwhile, DLC is still currently being released for the console versions, which has me worried about the possibility that the PC version will probably need 2 or 3 GIANT patches to fix any bugs because the gap between the final DLC and the PC release is MUCH shorter than last year's gap.

 

Unless they're still going to make MORE DLC even AFTER the PC version is released, which will mean MORE bugfix patches.

[Hive]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cappyboy" data-cite="cappyboy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've been mostly in a Batman groove having gone through Arkham Asylum and City back to back twice.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Great games, especially City. I'm personally playing Arkham Knight right now. Gonna miss this series.</p>

[Clarity]

<p>Frontier has recently released 2.2.3 for Elite Dangerous and its definitely got me interested for (Spoilers) <span style="color:#FFFFFF;">ALIENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</span> (/Spoiler). Decided to play the game again and just came out the other side of a mammoth session. Damn this game is pretty</p><p> </p><p>

</p><div style="text-align:center;"><a href="http://s825.photobucket.com/user/GDSRenders/media/12-01-2017_23-23-25_zpsmgx0kjgs.png.html" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz173/GDSRenders/12-01-2017_23-23-25_zpsmgx0kjgs.png</span></a><p>

Space Stations have had a bit of an upgrade</p><p> </p><p>

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Finally arrive at an Engineer (They've been in the game 6 months)</p><p> </p><p>

Finally, landed at an Orbital before saving an logging and see this (video)</p><p> </p><p>

<a href="http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz173/GDSRenders/16-01-2017_22-37-08_zpssplifive.mp4" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz173/GDSRenders/th_16-01-2017_22-37-08_zpssplifive.mp4</span></a></p></div><p></p><p></p>

[Celuwyn]

Nice ! might be buying this soon, but with Mass effect Andromeda in March..

[Blackman]

Nice ! might be buying this soon, but with Mass effect Andromeda in March..

 

And us replaying Mass Effect 2 'n 3 right before that... though it has little to do with the upcoming story, it'd be nice as immersion into the game world.

 

(and in my case: with Witcher III DLC to finish before than...)

[Clarity]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Celuwyn" data-cite="Celuwyn" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Nice ! might be buying this soon, but with Mass effect Andromeda in March..</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If you have one, get it on Xbox. I could do with a wingman</p>

[Celuwyn]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Clarity" data-cite="Clarity" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If you have one, get it on Xbox. I could do with a wingman</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It will be on Xbox <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Currently replaying Mass effect 2, but Mass effect 3 scare me a little with the price of the DLC.. (40$ for all the good DLC..)</p>

[Blackman]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Celuwyn" data-cite="Celuwyn" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It will be on Xbox <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Currently replaying Mass effect 2, but Mass effect 3 scare me a little with the price of the DLC.. (40$ for all the good DLC..)</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's been a recurring point of discussion. Anyhow: the price of ME3 is basically "free" atm, so it's the price you have to pay. The DLC is good, but it's not "gimme gimme" good and can be missed (as all DLC btw).</p>

[Hive]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It's been a recurring point of discussion. Anyhow: the price of ME3 is basically "free" atm, so it's the price you have to pay. The DLC is good, but it's not "gimme gimme" good and can be missed (as all DLC btw).</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The DLC with the extra very-story related character should not be missed.</p>

[moon_lit_tears]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The DLC with the extra very-story related character should not be missed.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> In my opinion. DLC sulk add to a game, not force players to pay extra just to get the whole story.</p><p> </p><p> Unless I'm misunderstanding all the bad press about the game and they didn't do that...in which case I'll shut up. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Hive]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moon_lit_tears" data-cite="moon_lit_tears" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>In my opinion. DLC sulk add to a game, not force players to pay extra just to get the whole story.<p> </p><p> Unless I'm misunderstanding all the bad press about the game and they didn't do that...in which case I'll shut up. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Oh I agree, and that's a big part of the reason (the ending being another) that I got extremely pissed at EA and Bioware after ME3 and promised myself never to buy a game from them again. I later softened up on that stance, though. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> The DLC in question is essential for the storyline in my opinion (and many others clearly agreed), which makes it really poor taste to release it as a DLC instead of as an integrated part of the story.</p>

[Celuwyn]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Oh I agree, and that's a big part of the reason (the ending being another) that I got extremely pissed at EA and Bioware after ME3 and promised myself never to buy a game from them again. I later softened up on that stance, though. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> The DLC in question is essential for the storyline in my opinion (and many others clearly agreed), which makes it really poor taste to release it as a DLC instead of as an integrated part of the story.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think that the DLC of ME2 are more important to the story than the DLC of Mass effect 3. For ME3, it was more.. "fan service".. I might be the only one who like the ending of ME3</p>

[Blackman]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The DLC with the extra very-story related character should not be missed.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Actually I kinda missed that specific DLC because it came very late and for once I played a game on release. Yet another proof that it's just plain better to wait as long as possible to play a game nowadays. But what you're saying is that it's qualitative DLC, as based on what I've heard, it's missable as it's basically narrative fluff. Don't get me wrong: I love that. But it's definitely miss-able for many.</p><p> </p><p> Ironically I paid for that same DLC twice, though not at full price. Still, I should get to replaying the game just for that (before I pick up even more spoilers for it <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />).</p><p> </p><p> And you're not the only one who liked the ending. I too like it. But apart from us, there's probably not too many people around that do. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Celuwyn]

<p>I'm playing NHL 16. It's a bit.. hard for someone like me that doesn't watch that on TV <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

And compared to other games like NBA 2K or FIFA.. I find the game empty.</p>

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Celuwyn" data-cite="Celuwyn" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It will be on Xbox <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Currently replaying Mass effect 2, but Mass effect 3 scare me a little with the price of the DLC.. (40$ for all the good DLC..)</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've bee tempted to give them another go. In fact I stated playing the original Mass Effect late last year (Probably my sixth or seventh run through) but my heart was just not in it. Especially knowing that "my" Commander Shepard would not show up in the third game (That actually annoyed me more than the crappy ending. I hated that my third game Shepard did not look the way he/she looked in the previous two games.). </p><p> </p><p> I feel that Mass Effect 2 was the best of the series. Don't get me wrong I loved the first one and the first one is only slightly behind two in my book. Three was what it was it gave me closure with the characters. There was stuff I liked about three and stuff I hated about it. However, to me the second one was just the ace of the three.</p>

[Ayden]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've bee tempted to give them another go. In fact I stated playing the original Mass Effect late last year (Probably my sixth or seventh run through) but my heart was just not in it. Especially knowing that "my" Commander Shepard would not show up in the third game (That actually annoyed me more than the crappy ending. I hated that my third game Shepard did not look the way he/she looked in the previous two games.). <p> </p><p> I feel that Mass Effect 2 was the best of the series. Don't get me wrong I loved the first one and the first one is only slightly behind two in my book. Three was what it was it gave me closure with the characters. There was stuff I liked about three and stuff I hated about it. However, to me the second one was just the ace of the three.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I am much the same. When the 2nd and 3rd one became backwards compatible, I decided to replay the trilogy. I can hardly bring myself to play the first one though. Don't get me wrong, I loved it when I played through it the first five times...I just can't do it anymore though. I think I'll just start from two <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Blackman]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Ayden" data-cite="Ayden" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I just can't do it anymore though. I think I'll just start from two <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Same here. The first installment is so far behind compared to 2 and 3 in terms of gameplay and gfx that you're just better off not playing it. You could always check the cutscenes on youtube. If anything, the story is only a prelude anyway.</p><p> </p><p> Same thing with the Witcher btw. With Bioshock, it's the complete opposite, with 1 and 2 being very nice, and 3 being... well... quite the combobreaker (imo).</p>

[Hive]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="28397" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Same here. The first installment is so far behind compared to 2 and 3 in terms of gameplay and gfx that you're just better off not playing it. You could always check the cutscenes on youtube. If anything, the story is only a prelude anyway.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I actually like the story in ME1 much more than the one in ME2 and ME3 - but I agree that gameplay and gfx wise, it's far from the others. It hasn't aged well.</p>

[K-Nection]

Still hated the ending of ME3 and it ruined the entire series for me.