KColl Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Well, just looking over this I'd love to work on some the newer additions to the universe that seem to have been overlooked, like the Runaways, the Young Allies, some of the new Avengers Academy recruits, etc. Maybe even the Hood, etc. Do I just work on the characters in my spare time? Can you combine data? I've never done collaborative modding! Teen chars would be a great help. The Young Avengers etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMac Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 HUGE LIST Are you trying to say you're already working on all of these or that no one is? Also, how can you have a list of Luke Cage enemies and not include Mr. Fish!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KColl Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Are you trying to say you're already working on all of these or that no one is? Also, how can you have a list of Luke Cage enemies and not include Mr. Fish!? I'm still stuck on doing the good guys, lol. Nowhere near doing the bad guys yet. And lol on Mr. Fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ockbald Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 By the way - How are you guys using the cuts? I'm adding a red border to my cuts so they can fit better in a "Marvel" skin I'm making, only know I realized this might generate problems of compatibility. Should I drop the border idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMac Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 How are you guys doing abilities? Like Adam did them (300-400 is peak human) or like Marvel's scale (able to lift 100 tons would be about a 4)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KColl Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 How are you guys doing abilities? Like Adam did them (300-400 is peak human) or like Marvel's scale (able to lift 100 tons would be about a 4)? Good point. Strength Ratings. Average human = 250. 2* human = 450 Peak human (Black Panther, Captain America) = 600 50 tonner (Ms. Marvel) = 750 100 tonner (Wonder Man, Collusus) = 800 100+ tonner (Hulk, Thor, Sentry etc) 850 Thanos = 900 Celestials, Skyfathers = 950 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KColl Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 By the way - How are you guys using the cuts? I'm adding a red border to my cuts so they can fit better in a "Marvel" skin I'm making, only know I realized this might generate problems of compatibility. Should I drop the border idea? Tbh, I'm crap at graphics, I'm just adding pics to my chars and leaving it as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ockbald Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 Good point. Strength Ratings. Average human = 250. 2* human = 450 Peak human (Black Panther, Captain America) = 600 50 tonner (Ms. Marvel) = 750 100 tonner (Wonder Man, Collusus) = 800 100+ tonner (Hulk, Thor, Sentry etc) 850 Thanos = 900 Celestials, Skyfathers = 950 Where would you put Gladiator on that list? Currently he has 825 in my mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KColl Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Where would you put Gladiator on that list? Currently he has 825 in my mod. I'd actually put him up there with Thor & the Hulk... 850's for Silver Surfer, Nova Prime, Thor, Beta Ray.... 900s for Thanos 950 for Skyfathers 980 for Celestials and universe elders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ockbald Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 Updated the first post with stats guidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Casey Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Seeing one major character missing here... Pete Wisdom! Admittedly, I just love that guy - he's up there with Gambit as a personal favourite character, not to mention that British = Awesome, of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJStark Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Gladly submit the odd obscure character (you know, the guys in the background) if that's welcome? I've submitted some stuff on them to the Marvel database in the past so this would be fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ockbald Posted November 19, 2011 Author Share Posted November 19, 2011 Gladly submit the odd obscure character (you know, the guys in the background) if that's welcome? I've submitted some stuff on them to the Marvel database in the past so this would be fun The more the merrier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KColl Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Seeing one major character missing here... Pete Wisdom! Admittedly, I just love that guy - he's up there with Gambit as a personal favourite character, not to mention that British = Awesome, of course Anyone who wants to add the British, Canadian, Russian, Japanese, Chinese, and European super-heroes is more than welcome. I will get around to them, but at this rate it'll be January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KColl Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Query about character class. How is everyone approaching this? For example:- Dr. Strange is a human but derives his powers from supernatural means. Tony Stark is a human but derives his powers from technological means. But both are humans, correct? While the Vision for example is technological and Valkyrie is supernatural? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ockbald Posted November 19, 2011 Author Share Posted November 19, 2011 Query about character class. How is everyone approaching this? For example:- Dr. Strange is a human but derives his powers from supernatural means. Tony Stark is a human but derives his powers from technological means. But both are humans, correct? While the Vision for example is technological and Valkyrie is supernatural? Sounds about right. Should I make Adam Warlock Supernatural or an Alien? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KColl Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Sounds about right. Should I make Adam Warlock Supernatural or an Alien? I'd call him an alien. An alien sorcerer perhaps, but an alien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMac Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I've got all Runaways characters done, plus The Pride, Val Rhymin, and Topher, outside of the pictures. Moving on to the Young Avengers. Someone has to play as Old Lace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ockbald Posted November 20, 2011 Author Share Posted November 20, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LittleMac" data-cite="LittleMac" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="32676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've got all Runaways characters done, plus The Pride, Val Rhymin, and Topher, outside of the pictures. Moving on to the Young Avengers. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Someone has to play as Old Lace.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hell yeah Young Avengers! I like'em so much!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basketball45231 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Wont the biggest problem be figuring out popularity? There has to be enough heroes/villains at each level so the game is fun. If all the Avengers are iconic, then their villains have to be as well. If not, then when you play as Iron Man you wont be able to face the Mandarin for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ockbald Posted November 20, 2011 Author Share Posted November 20, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="basketball45231" data-cite="basketball45231" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="32676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Wont the biggest problem be figuring out popularity? There has to be enough heroes/villains at each level so the game is fun. If all the Avengers are iconic, then their villains have to be as well. If not, then when you play as Iron Man you wont be able to face the Mandarin for example.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've run into this problem recently, for instance, Beta Ray Bill is a Well Know character, but his two specific villains are VERY obscure...However, they are obscure to -us-, readers.</p><p> </p><p> In universe, Alpha Ray is know by almost every other being in Beta Ray's planet so he is Prominient, while Astarioth/Omega Ray is a ancient Asgardian demon banished into a Galaxy Hell who is Legendary.</p><p> </p><p> You have to create the character in context. Mandarin wouldn't be Iconic though.</p><p> </p><p> Now Doctor Doom? Iconic as hell. Ultron? Iconic. Anhillus? Iconic (Actually I would make him Legendary but that's mostly because of the context of my mod, I reserve Iconic only to the most important characters in Cosmic Marvel and while important, he is less so than Thanos or Silver Surfer.)</p><p> </p><p> Speaking of Context of the Mod and Silver Surfer</p><p> </p><p> I'm adding the finishing touches to Silver Surfer and DAYMN. He is tough. Maybe too tough. He is this stupid powerful in the comics but hot damn, he could utterly destroy pretty much all major players on the default data with some exceptions.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazorbeak Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="basketball45231" data-cite="basketball45231" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="32676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Wont the biggest problem be figuring out popularity? There has to be enough heroes/villains at each level so the game is fun. If all the Avengers are iconic, then their villains have to be as well. If not, then when you play as Iron Man you wont be able to face the Mandarin for example.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Even a cursory look at Adam's work would reveal that individual Avengers wouldn't be near iconic level, with the possible exception of Thor. But yeah, game balance starts becoming an issue especially at the high end. Definitely agree that you have to look at the context.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KColl Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Ockbald" data-cite="Ockbald" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="32676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> Speaking of Context of the Mod and Silver Surfer</p><p> </p><p> I'm adding the finishing touches to Silver Surfer and DAYMN. He is tough. Maybe too tough. He is this stupid powerful in the comics but hot damn, he could utterly destroy pretty much all major players on the default data with some exceptions.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> He's not that tough, Black Panther armbarred him. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> But seriously, Thor & Hulk are about the only earth-based heroes who can hang with him.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ockbald Posted November 20, 2011 Author Share Posted November 20, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lazorbeak" data-cite="lazorbeak" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="32676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Even a cursory look at Adam's work would reveal that individual Avengers wouldn't be near iconic level, with the possible exception of Thor. But yeah, game balance starts becoming an issue especially at the high end. Definitely agree that you have to look at the context.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well that's mostly true because everbody seems to be an Avenger at one point of their carrers <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />.</p><p> </p><p> But the "core" of the team is Iconic, like Cap, Iron Man and Thor.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhd1 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Ockbald" data-cite="Ockbald" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="32676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well that's mostly true because everbody seems to be an Avenger at one point of their carrers <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />.<p> </p><p> But the "core" of the team is Iconic, like Cap, Iron Man and Thor.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There are four people in the default database at iconic popularity. As Lazorbeak said (and Adam in another thread), look through (and play!) the default data - which is already balanced - before you start giving people stats and popularity. Otherwise you (me, or anyone making a mod) simply can't know how the game plays well enough to make the mod as good as you want it to be.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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