[Idon'teven] UK Wrestling Association League 1

Phantom Stranger · July 13, 2013

Big Roguey · July 13, 2013

Yeah, I'm totally a fan of the Nottingham HoodHarts.

Phantom Stranger · July 13, 2013

Some brief OOC comments before this gets rolling.

It's all Regis' fault.

Told you they were brief.

...

Well, that's actually kind of unfair. A couple of years ago there was an attempt to create a British Wrestling Premier League. This seems to've fallen through somewhat; if not, it's web footprint is astonishingly shallow. But the concept was there; teams built around cities, a league system to the scoring, etc, etc.

It stuck in my head as a cool idea. It also stuck in Regis' head. As tends to happen when that's the case, we ended up discussing how we'd do it, and later how we'd do it in TEW, and eventually, yesterday, we had a final conversation during the course of which we saw enough possibilities to try. So last night I grievously abused the C-Verse and Thunderverse databases to make myself a Leagueverse.

This is not going to be a typical Phantom Stranger diary. It doesn't replace Everybody Knows and shouldn't even slow it down much - my current intent is that the next show for that will be posted tonight. The UKWA is a touring promotion with a TV show, and I'll be posting summaries of that TV show rather than automatically of the events. You'll get match fixtures, match results, brief notes on promos and interviews, a couple of money quotes, and the Slam of the Night. Fan interaction is intended to be high; feel free to 'tweet' questions to workers in posts here and the workers will answer in or out of kayfabe according to their particular style.

Basically, this is a thought experiment I happen to be doing as a diary. It's also a chance to flesh out a bit of the British talent from both the Thunderverse and the C-Verse.

(So, why is there foreign talent? So I can have Westminster Pride, and take the piss out of Chelski.)

Any questions?

Psycho Sam · July 13, 2013

Interesting concept.

I wonder though, why add the Thunderverse into the roster?

Oh, and I shall pick the Westminister Pride to win it all.

Phantom Stranger · July 13, 2013

Interesting concept.

I wonder though, why add the Thunderverse into the roster?

Oh, and I shall pick the Westminister Pride to win it all.

You almost have it backwards.

I really loved writing Super TIGER in POW, and I'm fond of a lot of their other Brits - but there just aren't enough.

AceCodey · July 13, 2013

This looks interesting, I support Newcastle in real life so....

TOON ARMY FTW

Regis · July 13, 2013

I hereby deny all responsibility for everything, ever.

But seriously, as PS says, a lot of this came from an idea I had a while ago. Me and him were discussing the lack of a British wrestling scene in the Thunderverse, and what we'd like to see done with it. The BWPL idea came from that, set up pretty much exactly as has happened here. We talked about it, and agreed it would be cool, but neither of us had a particular interest in starting a modding project, so it got shelved.

Then PS got hold of the book 'Spandex, Screwjobs And Cheap Pops', which is a collected series of articles about the IRL British wrestling scene. This got us back to talking about the idea, and to talking about a silly idea I had to re-skin an entire database, so that instead of the world you had the UK, instead of countries you had regions, and instead of regions you had cities. It would have been a ludicrously difficult idea, but it got us talking about this project, and, well, one thing led to another. And after that, we decided that this had to happen.

The T-verse/C-verse crossover is entirely down to one sentence: "You'd get to write Super TIGER again."

The Lloyd · July 13, 2013

Very interesting concept... I really love 'outside the box' diaries... so i'll be keeping a close eye on this one

Wallbanger · July 13, 2013

#coym

Phantom Stranger · July 14, 2013

Extract from the Radio Times, Week 1 September 2013

...the debut of the new 'pro wrestling' show from company UKWA, replacing Best of British Wrestling. At least this one only runs eight months a year. Apparently the format will be like Match of the Day, covering the two fixtures playing earlier this week. The league table will be recapped on the show and at the UKWA website.

This Friday it's going to be Bristol at home against Wigan, a fixture being played (wrestled? I don't know) this Tuesday, and Thursday's fixture, Westminster at home to Liverpool.

From the UKWA fixtures site

BRISTOL vs. WIGAN

T. Beaumont (Br) vs. D. Henderson (Wi)

Harder Better Faster Stronger (Br, P. Barnes & Menace) vs. Wigan Bulldogs (Wi, L. Price & W. Morgan)

Byron (Br) vs. Merle O'Curle (Wi)

H. Neill (Br) vs. British Samurai (Wi)

WESTMINSTER vs. LIVERPOOL

M. Khoklov (We) vs. D. Stone (L)

The Van Holt Brothers (We, J & M) vs. Mersey Beatdown (L, P. Cooper & War Machine)

J. Faust & F. Higa (We) vs. 'Rolling' J. Stones & S. Blake (L)

T. Cornell (We) vs. A. Matravers (L)

Big Roguey · July 14, 2013

BRISTOL vs. WIGAN

T. Beaumont (Br) vs. D. Henderson (Wi)

Harder Better Faster Stronger (Br, P. Barnes & Menace) vs. Wigan Bulldogs (Wi, L. Price & W. Morgan)

Byron (Br) vs. Merle O'Curle (Wi)

H. Neill (Br) vs. British Samurai (Wi)

Wigan take it here with the exception of Harley Neill picking up the sole win for Bristol. In my eyes, the Wigan team are far better in terms of skill (I'm guessing UKWA is performance > pop).

WESTMINSTER vs. LIVERPOOL

M. Khoklov (We) vs. D. Stone (L)

The Van Holt Brothers (We, J & M) vs. Mersey Beatdown (L, P. Cooper & War Machine)

J. Faust & F. Higa (We) vs. 'Rolling' J. Stones & S. Blake (L)

T. Cornell (We) vs. A. Matravers (L)

Clean sweep for Westminister here, the only result I was really undecided on is the first match but power > technical skill. Westminister seem like a lock-on for winners of everything so far.

Psycho Sam · July 14, 2013

BRISTOL vs. WIGAN

T. Beaumont (Br) vs. D. Henderson (Wi)

Harder Better Faster Stronger (Br, P. Barnes & Menace) vs. Wigan Bulldogs (Wi, L. Price & W. Morgan)

Byron (Br) vs. Merle O'Curle (Wi)

H. Neill (Br) vs. British Samurai (Wi)

Reason is virtually the same as MH's, but I love Thomas Beaumont (blame MJStark for it)

WESTMINSTER vs. LIVERPOOL

M. Khoklov (We) vs. D. Stone (L)

Size beats technical skill here. Duane tas outo a Russian Lariato in 0:12

The Van Holt Brothers (The, J & M) vs. Mersey Beatdown (L, P. Cooper & War Machine)

It's a close one.

J. Faust & F. Higa (Pe) vs. 'Rolling' J. Stones & S. Blake (L)

The God and Higa steamrolls over Stones and Blake in a close one

T. Cornell (Pl) vs. A. Matravers (L)

Our wrestling god proves his dominance. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

Regis · July 14, 2013

BRISTOL vs. WIGAN

T. Beaumont (Br) vs. D. Henderson (Wi)

Could be either, they're both good guys. Still, Don has more seniority.

Harder Better Faster Stronger (Br, P. Barnes & Menace) vs. Wigan Bulldogs (Wi, L. Price & W. Morgan)

I know I'm wrong, but they're my boys, y'know?

Byron (Br) vs. Merle O'Curle (Wi)

Merle is a techical master.

H. Neill (Br) vs. British Samurai (Wi)

Realistically speaking, I'm predicting Bristol having a total wipe. Still, I could be wrong.

WESTMINSTER vs. LIVERPOOL

M. Khoklov (We) vs. D. Stone (L)

Seriously, have you seen the size of that guy? Seriously?

The Van Holt Brothers (We, J & M) vs. Mersey Beatdown (L, P. Cooper & War Machine)

Talent will out.

J. Faust & F. Higa (We) vs. 'Rolling' J. Stones & S. Blake (L)

I can see an upset here.

T. Cornell (We) vs. A. Matravers (L)

Nobody just beats Tommy Cornell, even Mile High himself.

Also, I'm showing my colours for the Birmingham Pitbulls. Birmingham, where it's Hosstoberfest all year round!

Hashasheen · July 14, 2013

As much as I love and support the existence of a Bristol team, I must also protest as to why there is no Welsh or Scottish teams. Don't discriminate!

Phantom Stranger · July 14, 2013

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hashasheen" data-cite="Hashasheen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36390" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As much as I love and support the existence of a Bristol team, I must also protest as to why there is no Welsh or Scottish teams. Don't discriminate!</div></blockquote> You foresee a plotline.

Big Roguey · July 14, 2013

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hashasheen" data-cite="Hashasheen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36390" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As much as I love and support the existence of a Bristol team, I must also protest as to why there is no Welsh or Scottish teams. Don't discriminate!</div></blockquote> A good point, I assume if this takes off PS will expand and bring in more teams from outside of England. Got to learn to walk before you can run and all that jazz.

Hashasheen · July 14, 2013

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Phantom Stranger" data-cite="Phantom Stranger" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36390" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You foresee a plotline.</div></blockquote> Huzzah!

Phantom Stranger · July 15, 2013

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hashasheen" data-cite="Hashasheen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36390" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Huzzah!</div></blockquote> I was being deliberately England-centric because of said plotline's inevitability. You'll note the Red Dragon is up with the Toon Army at the moment. But the maths say each league can have nine member teams, with TEW's calendar restrictions, or a LOT more, which just wasn't feasible to begin with, and an additional fixture per week. So; relegations and promotions, as is right and proper. But those will be coming in over this first season...

Midnightnick · July 15, 2013

BRISTOL vs. WIGAN

T. Beaumont (Br) vs. D. Henderson (Wi)

Harder Better Faster Stronger (Br, P. Barnes & Menace) vs. Wigan Bulldogs (Wi, L. Price & W. Morgan)

Byron (Br) vs. Merle O'Curle (Wi)

H. Neill (Br) vs. British Samurai (Wi)

WESTMINSTER vs. LIVERPOOL

M. Khoklov (We) vs. D. Stone (L)

The Van Holt Brothers (We, J & M) vs. Mersey Beatdown (L, P. Cooper & War Machine)

J. Faust & F. Higa (We) vs. 'Rolling' J. Stones & S. Blake (L)

T. Cornell (We) vs. A. Matravers (L)

Phantom Stranger · July 16, 2013

<div style="text-align:center;">Wrestling Tonight

Broadcast Friday evenings, UK Broadcasting Secondary

Hosts: Jeff Nova | Dunton Hall | Steve Smith

Match Commentary: Steve Smith | Dunton Hall

Punditry: Jeff Nova

Week 1 September 2013

Rating: 1.78</div>

<ul><li>A team profile package for the home team, Bristol Thunder, is played. </li><li>We see highlights of Beaumont facing Don Henderson. Henderson carries the fall. D- </li><li>A video package profiling the Harts' ceding Wigan to allow Nottingham to field a team is played. </li><li>The Wigan Bulldogs defeat Harder Better Faster Stronger – barely. C- </li><li>The away team, the Wigan Wonders, gets the next profile package. </li><li>Byron is defeated by Merle O'Curle. Wigan has a clear lead. D+ </li><li>Jeff Nova lists his underdog wrestlers to watch through the tournament, highlighting Wade Orson, War Machine, Daniel James and Jamie Anderson as wrestlers who're likely to end the season with a much higher profile than they began with. </li><li>Harley Neill pulls one back for Bristol, toppling the British Samurai in the Captain's Match. Wigan earn four points, Bristol scores one. </li><li>A video package highlighting the Westminster/Liverpool clash airs before Jeff and Dunton welcome us to Westminster's first home fixture. </li><li>Liverpool get a specific package dwelling on the Stone training Duane has introduced the team to over the two months preceding the season. </li><li>Duane then defeats Marat Khoklov after Bedlam interferes. Bedlam receives a yellow card and will be suspended for one event. Duane Stone, however, has to be stretchered away. C- </li><li>Another video compilation; the Birmingham Pitbulls are integrating into the community. We see Barry Griffin and Kevin Jones supervising a 'Kids' Training' session at a local primary school. </li><li>After a close match, the Van Holt Brothers fall to Mersey Beatdown, War Machine making the difference with a huge powerbomb. C- </li><li>We see Westminster's introductory package, showcasing their numbers and international talent. </li><li>Jonathan Faust and Fuyuko Higa overwhelm Rolling Johnny Stones and Steph Blake. Unlike the prior match, this one isn't close. C </li><li>Jeff Nova comments on the UKWA's future, noting a second nine-team league has been commissioned for League Two. With Steve Smith, he goes over the points system; one point for a singles victory, two for a tag victory, a further point for a clean sweep or to be awarded by a panel of judges in the event of a fixture ending up tied, and ties in the league table to be decided by Fall Difference – meaning winning singles matches scores less points but can provide an edge. </li><li>Adam Matravers falls to the home team captain, Tommy Cornell. B- </li><li>The panel of judges settles the tie; the former Highland Warrior, Jeffrey McPeterson, decides in favour of Westminster after noting how nearly the Van Holts took their match. </li><li>Smith, Hall and Nova go over next week's fixtures, touting Birmingham at home to Nottingham and London at home to Newcastle. </li></ul>

Phantom Stranger · July 16, 2013

First of all - this format's an experiment. Let me know what you think.

Second of all, that scoring system.

<ul><li>1 point for each singles victory. </li><li>2 points for each tag team victory </li><li>Should the fixture be a clean sweep in your favour, 1 points </li><li>If the fixture is tied on points, 1 point awarded by judges </li><li>Ties in the league table decided by who has the most falls - this is the relative advantage of singles matches </li></ul>

And that penalty system.

<ul><li>Detected infractions of the rules lead to an automatic loss of the fall. </li><li>Use of a weapon, groin strikes, etc is a red card. The competitor responsible receives a red card and must miss two fixtures. </li><li>Interference is a yellow card. The competitor responsible receives a yellow card and must miss one fixture. If the interference is carried out by a manager, the UKWA will decide which of their team must miss the fixture. </li><li>Should a player or manager accrue more than six yellow cards or three red cards in a season, other penalties may be applied. </li></ul>

Regis · July 16, 2013

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="We are APW" data-cite="We are APW" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36390" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Format looks good, but a lack of grades for angles is a deal killer.</div></blockquote> Really? Why?

Phantom Stranger · July 16, 2013

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="We are APW" data-cite="We are APW" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36390" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why report any grades if you're not going to report them all?</div></blockquote> Well, to begin with, I did it in PPPW because I wanted to be able to write the angle the way I wanted, and I'd seen criticism that angles were 'too good for the rating' in other diaries. I take the attitude that, hey, I'm writing the words. The delivery of them may fall flat and tank the rating, and fair enough, but people don't take that into account when they read it. I wanted to dodge that criticism, so I dropped angle ratings. Nobody asked for them to be restored. Nor did they during TCW or POW or thus far in Everybody Knows... which is cool and groovy, you're asking now. I'm likely to forget, though. PPPW ran from around this point in 2008 on; I've got six years' habit of skipping angle ratings. I genuinely don't write diaries that are about the grades things get. But people have asked about match ratings all the time I've been here and, until now, not about angles.

Wallbanger · July 16, 2013

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Phantom Stranger" data-cite="Phantom Stranger" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36390" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><ul><li>A video package highlighting the Westminster/Liverpool clash airs before Jeff and Dunton welcome us to Westminster's first home fixture. </li><li>Liverpool get a specific package dwelling on the Stone training Duane has introduced the team to over the two months preceding the season. </li><li>Duane then defeats Marat Khoklov after Bedlam interferes. Bedlam receives a yellow card and will be suspended for one event. Duane Stone, however, has to be stretchered away. C- </li><li>After a close match, the Van Holt Brothers fall to Mersey Beatdown, War Machine making the difference with a huge powerbomb. C- </li><li>We see Westminster's introductory package, showcasing their numbers and international talent. </li><li>Jonathan Faust and Fuyuko Higa overwhelm Rolling Johnny Stones and Steph Blake. Unlike the prior match, this one isn't close. C </li><li>Adam Matravers falls to the home team captain, Tommy Cornell. B- </li><li>The panel of judges settles the tie; the former Highland Warrior, Jeffrey McPeterson, decides in favour of Westminster after noting how nearly the Van Holts took their match.</li></ul></div></blockquote> I’m a Merseyside fan I’m proud of what I am I say what I think and Westminster stink Oh I am a Merseyside fan We meet in the Gwladys Street We are the social elite You will hear us roar when the Miracle score Oh I am an Merseyside fan Khoklov loves his Khoklov, cause he can't get no other Khoklov loves his Khoklov, cause he's a first class wanker Run, run, whoever you may me He is the famous War Machine And he'll [bLEEP] you up, whoever you may be Cos he is the famous War Machine We're all part of Adam's Army We're all part of Adam's Army We're all part of Adam's Army And we're out to win the league This old man, he told me, Tommy Cornell's got VD With a knick-knack paddywhack Give a dog a bone Tommy Cornell [bLEEP] off home Highland sheep shagger Highland sheep shagger Highland sheep shagger Baaaaaaaaa

The Lloyd · July 16, 2013

i never give grades for angles in my diary either... main reason is because like you say, you set it up so that worker a and worker b get into an argument backstage... their skills in the areas you need them aren't great, but it moves the storyline along nicely... and you get like... an F... I don't see the benefit in telling everyone how poor an angle was.

Also, the way I lay my work out, there's a natural place to put a rating graphic at the end of a match, and in angles, I can never seem to find a natural place to put one... I've only ever had one person mention the lack of angle grades, and he still predicts every week

I get why people would be put off with no grades, as you could just be writing from the top of your head, not even using TEW at all... but it's clear that in this particular diary (since it's using some characters from the cverse) that that is not the case...

Keep up the great work, love the idea, i'll be following along and hoping an Isle of Wight team gets promoted next season

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