Ping von Erich Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 So excited for this. Your '88 database is one of my absolute favorite mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Ping von Erich" data-cite="Ping von Erich" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36675" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So excited for this. Your '88 database is one of my absolute favorite mods.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Just curious, how far along are you in your current game save? <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ping von Erich Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 <p>I'm a chronic restarter, lets just say all total years and years and years.</p><p> </p><p> <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 EDIT: Never mind. The name of the fed is on that logo, so I can't use it. I'll just make a custom one for EMLL (CMLL) myself. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 Update time: Combing through the already debuted free agents I currently have right now and tweaking them. Then I'll be importing the rest of the already debuted free agents. Depending on how many workers that gives the mod, I'll go through and see if there are any that I can really do without so to prevent data bloating. Once the already debuted free agents are all done, then I'll start importing titles, probably one company at a time so that it's not such a mess, and to make it easier to work on their histories. After that, I'll be importing Yet to Debut workers, and everything else that will need importing, such as tag teams, relationships, etc. I'm doing every little bit at a time to try and keep me from getting burned out, and to try and make this a quality mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sco xY2Jx Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Really enjoy your 88'Mod, dude, so really looking forward to this one. Can't wait for the release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Sco xY2Jx" data-cite="Sco xY2Jx" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36675" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Really enjoy your 88'Mod, dude, so really looking forward to this one. Can't wait for the release.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thank you for the kind words, sir. ^_^ Hopefully it'll be worth the wait. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> I went ahead and imported all the Already Debuted workers from the 1983 mod. Will be combing through them by letters like Alvarasus is doing for his mod, and getting rid of any unnecessary workers or ones that might be duplicates. I'm also importing alter egos from various mods, but don't worry. I'll be deleting the duplicates, cleaning the alter ego profiles up, all that jazz. I'm just trying to keep myself from missing any key alter egos, though I'm sure some might fall through the cracks.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alvarasus Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Thank you for the kind words, sir. ^_^ Hopefully it'll be worth the wait. I went ahead and imported all the Already Debuted workers from the 1983 mod. Will be combing through them by letters like Alvarasus is doing for his mod, and getting rid of any unnecessary workers or ones that might be duplicates. I'm also importing alter egos from various mods, but don't worry. I'll be deleting the duplicates, cleaning the alter ego profiles up, all that jazz. I'm just trying to keep myself from missing any key alter egos, though I'm sure some might fall through the cracks. Have fun your going to see of bunch of mistakes I made. Becky the Farmer's daughter doesn't exist. So you may want to delete her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 Have fun your going to see of bunch of mistakes I made. Becky the Farmer's daughter doesn't exist. So you may want to delete her. Already took care of that thanks to reading over your thread. ^_^ I'd rather have everything imported first and delete what's not needed so that there's less of a chance of something being missing that should be in the data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Other than gimmick performance stats, the one thing I'd really look out for is physical stats. In Genadi's and alv's mod(mainly from Genadi's work), rookie's bodies were already broken down and they're in their early 20s and can't work house shows. It's probably a giant pain to go through everyone for gimmick performance and physical condition, but I feel those are the two most over looked parts in mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36675" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Other than gimmick performance stats, the one thing I'd really look out for is physical stats. In Genadi's and alv's mod(mainly from Genadi's work), rookie's bodies were already broken down and they're in their early 20s and can't work house shows. It's probably a giant pain to go through everyone for gimmick performance and physical condition, but I feel those are the two most over looked parts in mods.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's part of the reason why the mod is taking me longer to complete, looking over physical and gimmick performance stats. Something else I've noticed that seems to be left over from years of importing from mods, almost every worker seems to be either a douchebag with their personalities, or extremely flaky. If there's no concrete proof of how a worker acted backstage, I just go ahead and make them perfectly balanced. Though I will admit most workers who were career jobbers will lean a bit toward the Generous and Humble side as they never seemed to have a problem going out there and getting the ass kicked. I wonder if the problem started with a modder setting most workers' personalities to "Normal Wrestler" back before there were personality sliders, under the assumption that a "Normal Wrestler" didn't have douchey tendencies. :-/</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I think perfectly balanced is probably the right way to go. I mean, not everyone was an asshat like Buzz Sawyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatedRKO16 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Curious - how are you giving out star quality? This seems to be an extremely important stat. I enjoy mods that are more generous with it because it seems to give the wrestlers a higher ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RatedRKO16" data-cite="RatedRKO16" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36675" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Curious - how are you giving out star quality? This seems to be an extremely important stat. I enjoy mods that are more generous with it because it seems to give the wrestlers a higher ceiling.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not sure if I can say there's an exact formula for doling out star quality. I'd say workers who may not have had "the look" but worked hard and worked their way up to main event status will probably be around the high C- to low B, maybe B+, range. So a Bret Hart, CM Punk or Bryan Danielson would be anywhere from 70-82. A Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage, Ric Flair, Rock, would have it in spades, probably 90-100. Someone who had the tools but just needed to be given that chance and utilized correctly, like a Steve Austin or Shawn Michaels, may range from 84-94. Guys who were pretty much destined to be jobbers are going to have very low star quality, though I may consider giving talents who had the ability to work any kind of match like an Iron Mike Sharpe or Barry Horowitz, somewhere in the D to high C, maybe low C+, range. I'm open to ideas and opinions on all this.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I'm cool with all that as long as Elijah Burke has 100 Star Quality. Pope is Pimpin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alvarasus Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I know I shot up star quality for some guys because to me the way they looked to me they were going to be stars but failed in reality. I already know what I am going to get the biggest heat for and that is setting potential for people. I will say not everyone is set and keep eye on some of the potential like Dusty Rhodes was set to low for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatedRKO16 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="alvarasus" data-cite="alvarasus" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36675" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I know I shot up star quality for some guys because to me the way they looked to me they were going to be stars but failed in reality. I already know what I am going to get the biggest heat for and that is setting potential for people. I will say not everyone is set and keep eye on some of the potential like Dusty Rhodes was set to low for some reason.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't think it's unrealistic for guys that didn't make it to "the big leagues" to have high potential/star quality. There are lots of guys who had all the looks, talent, etc. that just weren't booked properly. I dislike when mods put those certain guys too low just because they came out of it not looking too great.</p><p> </p><p> I use Ken Doane (Kenny Dykstra/Spirit Squad) as my example a lot because he has/had all the talent in the world but after Spirit Squad was no more and something happened with Cena (supposedly) to derail any push he had coming for him. I think he's a 70s star quality type guy with high potential, just wasn't in the right place/right time or booked correctly. There are many guys like that.</p><p> </p><p> My 2cents. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alvarasus Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RatedRKO16" data-cite="RatedRKO16" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36675" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't think it's unrealistic for guys that didn't make it to "the big leagues" to have high potential/star quality. There are lots of guys who had all the looks, talent, etc. that just weren't booked properly. I dislike when mods put those certain guys too low just because they came out of it not looking too great.<p> </p><p> I use Ken Doane (Kenny Dykstra/Spirit Squad) as my example a lot because he has/had all the talent in the world but after Spirit Squad was no more and something happened with Cena (supposedly) to derail any push he had coming for him. I think he's a 70s star quality type guy with high potential, just wasn't in the right place/right time or booked correctly. There are many guys like that.</p><p> </p><p> My 2cents. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I agree I think Flair thought he was good. Mark Jindrak is another guy who had the look but they booked him wrong after he turned down the Evolution spot.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RatedRKO16" data-cite="RatedRKO16" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36675" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't think it's unrealistic for guys that didn't make it to "the big leagues" to have high potential/star quality. There are lots of guys who had all the looks, talent, etc. that just weren't booked properly. I dislike when mods put those certain guys too low just because they came out of it not looking too great.<p> </p><p> I use Ken Doane (Kenny Dykstra/Spirit Squad) as my example a lot because he has/had all the talent in the world but after Spirit Squad was no more and something happened with Cena (supposedly) to derail any push he had coming for him. I think he's a 70s star quality type guy with high potential, just wasn't in the right place/right time or booked correctly. There are many guys like that.</p><p> </p><p> My 2cents. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Being a douchebag certainly didn't do Kenny any favors either. I will go through and see about star quality for guys who had the looks and potential but just didn't pan out for whatever reason. Tom Magee... won't be in that category.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatedRKO16 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Matt Shannon" data-cite="Matt Shannon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36675" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Being a douchebag certainly didn't do Kenny any favors either. I will go through and see about star quality for guys who had the looks and potential but just didn't pan out for whatever reason. Tom Magee... won't be in that category.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Right, but you can always give them a bad attitude, doesn't mean they weren't a good worker though. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RatedRKO16" data-cite="RatedRKO16" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36675" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Right, but you can always give them a bad attitude, doesn't mean they weren't a good worker though. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I didn't say I was going to make douchebags bad workers. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> FYI though, most potentials, save for a select few workers, will be set to Random. And bear in mind that just because a worker starts out with stats in the 40s or 50s in some areas doesn't mean they'll never become great workers. If they get a good destiny roll and are booked correctly, they can become good or even outstanding workers.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 Sorry to double post, but after reading the feedback about stats in the 2004 Ruthless Aggression thread, it's got me looking over the workers I have once again, starting with those who are employed. Good thing, because I can already see that I overrated Wendi Richter in some areas. I'll be keeping Showtime's feedback about brawling in mind too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 What size did you end up making JCP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36675" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What size did you end up making JCP?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Right now I have them at high Regional. As long as you count on Ric Flair and Dusty Rhodes as your headliners like they did in real life, you should be able to take them up to Cult in no time, making it easier to retain bigger names such as Flair, Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard, Dusty Rhodes, etc.</p><p> </p><p> Speaking of Jim Crockett Promotions, should they be based in the South East region or Mid Atlantic? For the longest time, they considered the Carolinas (Mid Atlantic) their home base, but when the company was bought by Ted Turner and became WCW just a few years later, they moved to Atlanta, Georgia. I know Jim Crockett had an office in Dallas, but that wasn't really home for JCP in TEW terms. Right now I'm leaning toward Mid Atlantic because right now, if I keep them in the South East, they could get locked into a Regional Battle with Continental (the Fullers' territory).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I'd go with Mid Atlantic since the move to Atlanta is three to almost four years off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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