Another question to the vets

[oilersfan99]

I started a new company in my game and signed a bunch a fighters and have run 3 cards and now I am trying to make some money. PPV was the way to go for me in another game so I have tried to do that again but each time, I get rejected from even the smallest PPV carriers.

 

I am sitting at 44.3% popularity and am wondering where do I need to be before they start being interested?

 

Thanks in advance

[batsnumbereleven]

<p>You won't get PPV in the US until you get to Low Level National. You may have to start with TV, which you'll be able to get once you get into High Level Regional in the US, I think.</p><p> </p><p>

Until then you need to keep cards small to minimise the amount of money you lose each time.</p>

[TLCJR4LIFE]

With Default Data you can get on PPV at 80 percent high level regional.

[Blackman]

You can check the values yourself while editing the company values in-game. There you can change them at will. If you don't and want to play 'fair', take into account that - at 44% regional - all your current stars will long be retired before you get to that point. Even if you spam bi-weekly shows. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

[TLCJR4LIFE]

<p>That's not really true.</p><p> </p><p>

Your biggest problem will be bankruptcy.</p><p> </p><p>

Using the default data, KDM for example is pretty much completely impossible to not go bankrupt with unless you ship Sukarno to ALPHA-1...and even then Takeuchi and Li-Kong Ho aren't cheap.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

That said you could get from 44 to 80 in a year or two if you have good shows.</p>

[Blackman]

<p>Bankrupcy isn't a problem at all imo. Book 3-fight cards and when they start asking too much, drop them. It's simple. Not realistic, but if you want to play by the game's 'rules', that's the way to do it imo.</p><p> </p><p>

And are you sure it goes that quickly? I seem to recall popularity only rising with .5% sometimes. Though that might've been TEW? <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Anyhow: it does fairly slow in my estimation. But I haven't been playing with tiny companies for a long time. Or I gave them early PPV deals.</p>

[TLCJR4LIFE]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36902" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Bankrupcy isn't a problem at all imo. Book 3-fight cards and when they start asking too much, drop them. It's simple. Not realistic, but if you want to play by the game's 'rules', that's the way to do it imo.<p> </p><p> And are you sure it goes that quickly? I seem to recall popularity only rising with .5% sometimes. Though that might've been TEW? <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Anyhow: it does fairly slow in my estimation. But I haven't been playing with tiny companies for a long time. Or I gave them early PPV deals.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> It won't go that quickly if you keep dropping your biggest stars...<img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Momentum and popularity gain is based MORE on commercial success and THEN critical as a backup..based on what I've seen.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Therefore...if you are managing, say Great or Fantastic Commercial and decent critical, you'll go up much more than a half a percent...</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Also...at low level regional it's definitely impossible to make money...I just ran a show and made 5k from the gate...even if you didn't pay your fighters you'd still be in the red from miscellaneous and marketing costs alone....and fighter pay is obviously going to be the biggest cost.</p><p> </p><p> You usually lose like 30k per month so the rush to high level regional is super important.</p><p> </p><p> I actually hate this stupid grinding affair and usually just either </p><p> </p><p> A: Cheat to get enough money to not have to worry about petty micromanaging of contracts and pay per show...and ensure I dont go bankrupt before getting on PPV</p><p> </p><p> or </p><p> </p><p> B: Set a Insignificant or Tiny PPV company in every geographic area that has a requisite of 25 low level regional...they usually let you have 10 percent of your money and only give you 4 show deals...but you will grow and make money.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> The mods I play usually have the PPV deals set up so you can get on PPV right away and not have to worry about that stuff. That's the Dawn of MMA Mod, Freshverse Mod, and Evo mod...all take care of that nuisance</p>

[oilersfan99]

Some great stuff guys, thank you. Is there a way I can look and see what I am as far as low level national or whatever?

[ElJay]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="oilersfan99" data-cite="oilersfan99" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36902" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Some great stuff guys, thank you. Is there a way I can look and see what I am as far as low level national or whatever?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> "Your Office" (Second button on the top left) that will take you to your office. From there just click "Popularity"</p><p> </p><p> Low Level: 0.0-32.9</p><p> Mid Level: 33.0-66.0</p><p> High Level: 66.1-99.9</p><p> </p><p> After you go through Regional, you progress to National, then International.</p>

[Blackman]

<p>TLC is right. Seems like my perspective was a little coloured given I've played only WEFF in my last 5 games. If ever there was a hard mode, it'd be that promotion. Not in terms of staying alive but in terms of popularity gain. You basically start with ALL fighters at low regional level (25 pop max) and one of your champions with <strong>no Canadian popularity at all</strong> (how in God's name is that even possible? <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> The champ's supposed to have fought in the promotion or she wouldn't be champ). Anyhow, in the upcoming db all these things have been tweaked to a logical level. It'll be easier to play WEFF then and rise more than .8%.</p><p> </p><p>

Anyhow, when playing WEFF in default you're actually better off hosting as many shows as possible to boost them, using different fighters if possible. If you can't afford that, have 3 fight shows. By the time you'll reach 50 pop, you will actually have need of your stars. Then again, if using the same ones as soon as they are available again, you will boost to fantastic in no time. But that route will have you potentially having money issues.</p>

[ProphetX]

honestly this is just my opinion here but making it to PPV shouldn't be that hard and different vendors should be allowed. Like for example Ustream and Axxess TV (formerly HD net). I usually make similar providers in my custom games and if you make them tiny or insignificant then you'll still make a little bit of money without fear of going bankrupt unless you have some seriously costly fighters on your roster

[Blackman]

<p>Adam's just trying to reflect reality. It's actually quite hard to make it there, especially for pro wrestling promotions. But even for MMA it's not easy.</p><p> </p><p>

But I agree that in the game it shouldn't be hard, but like you say you can just create your own PPV carriers.</p>