Semi-Official "I'm complaining. Okay, I'm done complaining" Thread

[Payne]

Simple thread. What ticked you off, you wanted to vent?

 

Here's me: 30 minute match. Both guys in Danger health. Multiple false finishes. Some move streaks, some hold for hold. In the end, I went for my finish 4 times, then got ticked off, and DDT'd the guy 5 times (imagine just watching the frustration of that in the ring), then finally got the Trademark move, and pinned.

 

Rating: Could have been more competitive. Nothing memorable. ** (2 Stars).

 

 

WHAT THE HELL?????

[Payne]

<p>Payne MacLeod vs. Rodell Petit</p><p> </p><p>

(00:00) *** The match began</p><p>

(00:07) Petit hit a Side Headlock Takedown</p><p>

(00:16) Payne moved out of the way of a Knee Drop</p><p>

(00:20) Payne hit a Knee Drop</p><p>

(00:24) Payne hit a Knee Drop</p><p>

(00:28) Payne hit an Elbow Drop</p><p>

(00:38) Payne picked up Petit</p><p>

(00:42) Petit blocked a Headbutt</p><p>

(00:51) Payne hit a Punch Flurry</p><p>

(00:55) Payne hit a Legdrop</p><p>

(01:00) Petit blocked a Double Axe Handle Smash</p><p>

(01:05) Payne irish whipped Petit into the ropes</p><p>

(01:12) Payne hit a Backdrop</p><p>

(01:16) Payne hit a Knee Drop</p><p>

(01:22) Petit moved out of the way of a Knee Drop</p><p>

(01:28) Payne moved out of the way of a Fist Drop</p><p>

(01:33) Petit broke a Face Rub Taunt</p><p>

(01:37) Payne broke a Snap Mare Takedown</p><p>

(01:51) Payne applied a Front Facelock</p><p>

(01:58) Petit avoided a Bionic Elbow</p><p>

(02:05) Petit applied a Standing Arm Bar</p><p>

(02:09) Payne broke a Side Headlock Takedown</p><p>

(02:13) Payne hit a Bionic Elbow</p><p>

(02:17) Payne hit a Knee Drop</p><p>

(02:21) Payne hit a Knee Drop</p><p>

(02:25) Petit fought back against Payne</p><p>

(02:39) Petit applied a Front Facelock</p><p>

(02:43) Payne broke an Inverted Drop Toe Hold</p><p>

(02:50) Payne hit a DDT</p><p>

(03:00) Petit moved out of the way of a Knee Drop</p><p>

(03:05) Payne broke a Body Scissors</p><p>

(03:10) Petit blocked a DDT</p><p>

(03:10) Payne irish whipped Petit into the corner</p><p>

(03:19) Petit blocked a Corner Elbow</p><p>

(03:24) Petit broke a Turnbuckle Smash</p><p>

(03:38) Petit applied a Side Headlock</p><p>

(03:43) Payne broke a Snap Mare Takedown</p><p>

(03:48) Petit broke a DDT</p><p>

(04:02) Petit applied an Arm Wringer</p><p>

(04:09) Petit hit a Running Clothesline</p><p>

(04:13) Petit hit an Elbow Drop</p><p>

(04:17) Petit hit a Fist Drop</p><p>

(04:21) Petit hit an Elbow Drop On Knee</p><p>

(04:26) Payne broke an Arm Bar</p><p>

(04:29) Payne hit an Elbow Blow</p><p>

(04:39) Petit moved out of the way of a Knee Drop</p><p>

(04:43) Petit hit an Elbow Drop On Knee</p><p>

(05:03) Petit applied a Rear Chinlock</p><p>

(05:08) Payne broke a Body Scissors</p><p>

(05:28) Payne applied a Bear Hug</p><p>

(05:55) Payne applied a Front Facelock</p><p>

(05:59) Payne hit a Bionic Elbow</p><p>

(06:03) Payne hit a Measured Knee Drop</p><p>

(06:12) Petit moved out of the way of a Measured Knee Drop</p><p>

(06:26) Petit applied a Knee Bar</p><p>

(06:33) Petit hit a Legdrop To Arm</p><p>

(06:37) Payne broke a Single Leg Boston Crab</p><p>

(06:41) Payne hit a Bionic Elbow</p><p>

(06:41) Petit started to bleed</p><p>

(06:45) Payne hit a Knee Drop</p><p>

(06:54) Petit moved out of the way of a Measured Knee Drop</p><p>

(06:58) Payne broke a Boston Crab</p><p>

(07:01) Petit countered a Chokeslam with a Punch</p><p>

(07:08) Petit applied a Standing Arm Bar</p><p>

(07:12) Petit hit an Open Handed Chop</p><p>

(07:19) Petit hit a Knee Plant</p><p>

(07:23) Payne wasn't fazed by an Open Handed Chop</p><p>

(07:27) Petit hit a Knife Edge Chop</p><p>

(07:41) Petit applied a Front Facelock</p><p>

(07:45) Payne wasn't fazed by an Open Handed Chop</p><p>

(07:50) Payne broke a Spinning Arm Breaker</p><p>

(07:53) Payne hit an Elbow Blow</p><p>

(07:57) Payne hit a Measured Knee Drop</p><p>

(08:16) Payne applied a Rope-Assisted Choke Hold</p><p>

(08:16) The referee gave Payne a stern warning</p><p>

(08:20) Payne hit a Knee Drop</p><p>

(08:28) Payne picked up Petit</p><p>

(08:34) Payne hit a Savage Headbutt</p><p>

(08:38) Payne hit a Measured Knee Drop</p><p>

(08:42) Payne hit a Running Knee Drop</p><p>

(08:47) Petit fought back against Payne</p><p>

(09:01) Petit applied a Front Facelock</p><p>

(09:15) Petit applied an Arm Wringer</p><p>

(09:22) Petit hit a Single Leg Trip</p><p>

(09:26) Petit hit a Fist Drop</p><p>

(09:30) Petit hit a Knee Drop</p><p>

(09:44) Petit applied a Single Leg Grapevine</p><p>

(10:03) Petit hit a Single Leg Trip</p><p>

(10:10) Petit hit a Snap Driving Elbow</p><p>

(10:15) Payne broke an American Figure Four Leglock</p><p>

(10:22) Payne hit a DDT</p><p>

(10:32) Petit moved out of the way of a Knee Drop</p><p>

(10:37) Payne broke a Boston Crab</p><p>

(10:40) Payne hit a Right Hook</p><p>

(10:43) Petit countered a Chokeslam with a Punch</p><p>

(10:43) Payne wasn't fazed by it though</p><p>

(10:50) Petit applied a Standing Arm Bar</p><p>

(10:57) Petit hit a DDT</p><p>

(11:17) Petit applied a Boston Crab</p><p>

(11:34) Payne countered a Spinning Arm Breaker with a Chokeslam</p><p>

(11:39) Payne got a near pinfall</p><p>

(11:59) Payne applied a Bear Hug</p><p>

(12:15) Payne hit a Bionic Elbow</p><p>

(12:19) Payne hit a Measured Knee Drop</p><p>

(12:28) Payne picked up Petit</p><p>

(12:33) Petit blocked a Chokeslam from Hell</p><p>

(12:39) Payne hit a Savage Headbutt</p><p>

(12:44) Petit stopped a Call For Finisher Taunt by rushing Payne</p><p>

(12:51) Petit hit a Side Headlock Takedown</p><p>

(12:55) Payne broke a Western Spinning Toe Hold</p><p>

(13:02) Payne hit a Running Clothesline</p><p>

(13:07) Petit fought back against Payne</p><p>

(13:14) Petit hit an Inverted Drop Toe Hold</p><p>

(13:18) Petit hit a Fist Drop</p><p>

(13:22) Petit hit a Running Knee Drop</p><p>

(13:48) Petit applied a Scorpion Deathlock</p><p>

(14:03) *** Petit submitted Payne</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

Bet ya didn't know a guy could lose that quickly. My momentum at the time of 12:44 was full. His was empty. </p><p> </p><p>

Picture this is real life. A beatdown. Heel calls for the finish, but gets rushed. Face with a Headlock takedown. Goes for a Spinning Toe hold, but it gets broken up. Heel with a Running Clothesline, takes down the smaller man. </p><p> </p><p>

Goes to pick that smaller man up, gets caught by a drop toe hold. 1 Fist drop and knee drop later, it's time for the Scorpion Deathlock! And the submission. </p><p> </p><p>

I just got buried.</p>

[Payne]

<p>Payne MacLeod vs. Gace Morin</p><p> </p><p>

(00:00) *** The match began</p><p>

(00:07) Payne countered a Rolling Wheel Kick with a Backdrop</p><p>

(00:11) Payne hit a Knee Drop</p><p>

(00:21) Morin moved out of the way of a Knee Drop</p><p>

(00:25) Payne fought back against Morin</p><p>

(00:32) Payne hit a Running Clothesline</p><p>

(00:38) Morin moved out of the way of a Knee Drop</p><p>

(00:42) Morin hit a Fist Drop</p><p>

(00:46) Morin hit an Elbow Drop</p><p>

(00:50) Morin hit a Knee Drop</p><p>

(00:56) Morin picked up Payne</p><p>

(01:10) Morin applied a Side Headlock</p><p>

(01:13) Payne wasn't fazed by a Kick To Gut</p><p>

(01:16) Morin hit a Punch</p><p>

(01:19) Morin hit a Punch</p><p>

(01:25) Morin hit a Dropkick</p><p>

(01:33) Payne avoided a Rolling Wheel Kick</p><p>

(01:40) Morin avoided an Elbow Blow</p><p>

(01:46) Morin hit a Rolling Wheel Kick</p><p>

(01:52) Morin hit a Dropkick To Corner</p><p>

(01:56) Morin brought Payne out of the corner</p><p>

(01:59) Morin hit a Punch</p><p>

(02:05) Morin hit a Dropkick To Corner</p><p>

(02:09) Morin brought Payne out of the corner</p><p>

(02:18) Payne avoided a Punch</p><p>

(02:21) Payne hit an Elbow Blow</p><p>

(02:30) Morin moved out of the way of a Knee Drop</p><p>

(02:38) Morin picked up Payne</p><p>

(02:52) Morin applied a Side Headlock</p><p>

(02:56) Payne blocked a Seated Face Plant</p><p>

(03:02) Morin hit a Dropkick To Corner</p><p>

(03:08) Payne moved out of the way of a Corner Seated Dropkick</p><p>

(03:12) Payne hit an Elbow Drop</p><p>

(03:16) Payne hit a Knee Drop</p><p>

(03:35) Payne applied a Rope-Assisted Choke Hold</p><p>

(03:35) The referee gave Payne a stern warning</p><p>

(03:54) Payne applied a Rope-Assisted Choke Hold</p><p>

(03:54) The referee gave Payne a stern warning</p><p>

(04:01) Morin moved out of the way of a Knee Drop</p><p>

(04:10) Payne moved out of the way of a Half Senton</p><p>

(04:17) Morin moved out of the way of a Knee Drop</p><p>

(04:21) Morin hit a Running Knee Drop</p><p>

(04:28) Morin hit a Seated Dropkick</p><p>

(04:38) Payne moved out of the way of a Running Half Senton</p><p>

(04:42) Payne hit an Elbow Drop</p><p>

(04:46) Morin fought back against Payne</p><p>

(04:51) Payne blocked a DDT</p><p>

(04:59) Payne moved out of the way of a Running Dropkick</p><p>

(05:05) Payne picked up Morin</p><p>

(05:10) Morin broke a DDT</p><p>

(05:20) Morin hit a Sunset Flip</p><p>

(05:24) Morin got a one count</p><p>

(05:28) Payne broke a Seated Face Plant</p><p>

(05:38) Morin avoided a Headbutt</p><p>

(05:42) Morin leapt up to the top turnbuckle</p><p>

(05:46) Payne stopped a Top Rope Double Axe Handle by rushing Morin and pulling him down</p><p>

(06:06) Payne applied a Bear Hug</p><p>

(06:24) Morin broke a DDT</p><p>

(06:29) Morin leapt up to the top turnbuckle</p><p>

(06:37) Morin hit a Second Rope Dropkick</p><p>

(06:46) Payne avoided a Seated Back Dropkick</p><p>

(06:49) Payne hit an Elbow Blow</p><p>

(06:57) Morin moved out of the way of a Legdrop</p><p>

(07:04) Morin hit a Senton</p><p>

(07:11) Morin hit a Legdrop To Groin</p><p>

(07:24) Morin hit a Running Half Senton</p><p>

(07:31) Morin hit a Legdrop To Groin</p><p>

(07:31) The referee warned Morin</p><p>

(07:38) Morin hit a Running Seated Dropkick</p><p>

(07:45) Morin hit a Senton</p><p>

(07:52) Morin hit a Running Seated Dropkick</p><p>

(07:57) Payne stopped a Call For Finisher Taunt by rushing Morin</p><p>

(08:04) Payne hit a DDT</p><p>

(08:11) Morin moved out of the way of a Knee Drop</p><p>

(08:19) Morin hit a Running Knee Drop</p><p>

(08:31) Morin hit a Legdrop To Groin</p><p>

(08:39) Morin picked up Payne</p><p>

(08:45) Morin hit a Dropkick To Knee</p><p>

(08:49) Payne broke a Twisting Face Crusher</p><p>

(08:53) Payne hit a Bionic Elbow</p><p>

(09:02) Morin moved out of the way of a Measured Knee Drop</p><p>

(09:09) Morin hit a Legdrop To Groin</p><p>

(09:15) Morin picked up Payne</p><p>

(09:28) Payne avoided a Dropkick To Corner</p><p>

(09:32) Payne hit a Bionic Elbow</p><p>

(09:41) Morin moved out of the way of an Elbow Drop</p><p>

(09:54) Morin picked up Payne</p><p>

(10:01) Payne countered a Running Dropkick with a Clothesline</p><p>

(10:05) Payne hit an Elbow Drop</p><p>

(10:15) Morin avoided a Double Axe Handle Smash</p><p>

(10:27) Morin hit a Vertical Body Press</p><p>

(10:33) Morin used a Call For Finisher Taunt</p><p>

(10:47) Morin used a Get Up Taunt</p><p>

(10:54) Morin hit a Running Dropkick</p><p>

(11:05) Morin used a Call For Finisher Taunt</p><p>

(11:09) Payne fought back against Morin</p><p>

(11:19) Payne hit a Bodyslam</p><p>

(11:26) Payne picked up Morin</p><p>

(11:29) Payne hit a Chokeslam</p><p>

(11:37) Payne picked up Morin</p><p>

(11:42) Payne hit a Chokeslam from Hell</p><p>

(11:47) Payne got a two count</p><p>

(12:03) Payne hit a Tombstone Piledriver</p><p>

(12:07) *** Payne got a three count on Morin</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

Would you believe this got 4 stars?</p>

[DanielBryan]

<p>That happened to me sometimes too. Other times I have full momentum and he has empty, but he switches it up for 20 turns on end and I am unable to counter (and yes, I use the best counters for the situation, I know what I'm doing <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />) </p><p>

Just part of the game.</p><p> </p><p>

My only real complaints are still the fact we get no results, no match and title history, no way to interact with people backstage and a weak RP feeling for the world. I still think this is easily the best Wrestling Spirit game, though, the storyline system and the match engine are both amazing <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Lionhart]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DanielBryan" data-cite="DanielBryan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37132" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That happened to me sometimes too. Other times I have full momentum and he has empty, but he switches it up for 20 turns on end and I am unable to counter (and yes, I use the best counters for the situation, I know what I'm doing <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />) <p> Just part of the game.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I second that.</p><p> </p><p> I generally dominate the vast majority of the match, having the full Momentum at some point with Medium Health (Generally 60% +) while my opponent is "Low" or "Very Low" on Momentum with 0% Health but once I miss a finisher, generally due to my opponent having a defensive roll of 900+ (which happen A LOT), he keeps beating me with low level moves, lowering my momentum to the ground then inflicting me his finisher at first try.</p><p> </p><p> In my case, it's clearly only about luck because my constant domination proves that I know how the game works, but there is no question why I never won any lottery. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> But the more it happens, the more I want to play. I must be already addicted, or something like that. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[TeflonBilly]

I really wish I would stop getting the message that I'm feeling confident because the match is completely in my favor. As soon as that happens, my opponent stats to trash me. Have you ever seen that 3 Stooges short where Curly is a boxer who goes berserk when he hears "Pop Goes The Weasel"? That's what I wind up dealing with the second I get that message.

[Payne]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TeflonBilly" data-cite="TeflonBilly" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37132" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I really wish I would stop getting the message that I'm feeling confident because the match is completely in my favor. As soon as that happens, my opponent stats to trash me. Have you ever seen that 3 Stooges short where Curly is a boxer who goes berserk when he hears "Pop Goes The Weasel"? That's what I wind up dealing with the second I get that message.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <strong>THIS!!!</strong></p><p> </p><p> EVERY time I see "He has the match well in hand" I know the next move will be reversed.</p>

[Blake Trask]

<p>I just realised I didn't have the game open in admin mode and lost nearly two years of progress. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

I opened it from a different location from normal and forgot about the admin mode boot up.</p>

[Adam Ryland]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Payne" data-cite="Payne" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37132" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>THIS!!!</strong><p> </p><p> EVERY time I see "He has the match well in hand" I know the next move will be reversed.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Before that becomes an urban legend, I will point out that those messages are entirely random and have no bearing on what happens on the following turn. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p>

[Richman]

<p>I'm liking having access to the calculate button to show how the mechanics of that particular move worked out, but it is still all too frequent for an oponent to pull out a >900 roll for countering or he manages a <200 roll to smash a series of high impact moves.</p><p> </p><p>

..Yes its a random roll, but has the AI been given loaded dice? Where were they manufactured? I want to supply dice for the AI next time!</p><p> </p><p>

Same as a number of people have posted, I too get into a sequence of moves ( generally low level shots to slowly build my momentum ), maybe bring in a medium move and then lose control of the match because my oponent wins a " pick up oponent " check. From his low momentum and my high he lands 3 or 4 medium to high level moves, taking 40% health off me before I regain control and then it repeats with me sticking to the low moves to switch the momentum around again... Because if I dont stick to the low momentum builders the oponent beats my roll and I cringe as the health meter drops.</p><p> </p><p>

A question here - is there anything to allow you to 'set up' a table other than for top rope moves? ...Or are table smashing moves only listed as a specific move itself? ( such as the move 'DDT through a table' ) ...I had a table match as part of my 5 match sequence and then realised I had no way of beating the oponent.</p>

[Blake Trask]

<p>Pre match you can filter your moveset to see if it's valid for 'through a table'</p><p> </p><p>

but in the match itself there is a drop down on the lower right of the move description box, which has an option of where you're aiming the move. You can pick stuff like through a table there.</p>

[FINisher]

Overpowered newly created wrestlers in the world. I just faced Johnny Jardine, turned pro in 2015, HP 600, Striking 860, Stamina 895, Athleticism 961. -.-'

[LucianCarter]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="FINisher" data-cite="FINisher" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37132" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Overpowered newly created wrestlers in the world. I just faced Johnny Jardine, turned pro in 2015, HP 600, Striking 860, Stamina 895, Athleticism 961. -.-'</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's a LOT worse in the only RL mod I've seen so far. There are no low level guys in it so trying to play RtL you face nothing but the 300 or so created wrestlers. These guys often have 700, 800 or even 900 in some stats. It's like every created wrestler is a future star. I realize the AI wrestlers do not develop over time and need to start out with stats that will allow them to replace the stars of today at some point, but the end result is it's all but impossible to win matches as a starting wrestler.</p>

[D-Lyrium]

I realize the AI wrestlers do not develop over time

 

You realise wrong.

 

AI wrestlers develop over time just like in TEW. They have a maturity age, up until which they'll develop their stats, and a decline age, after which their stats will start to drop off.

 

Are these guys you're mentioning low-level unknowns? Because unknowns/local talent with those kinds of stats probably shouldn't be happening...

[Vlad the Impaler]

A question here - is there anything to allow you to 'set up' a table other than for top rope moves? ...Or are table smashing moves only listed as a specific move itself? ( such as the move 'DDT through a table' ) ...I had a table match as part of my 5 match sequence and then realised I had no way of beating the oponent.

 

When you select the move, before executing it, you see at the bottom right of the move details screen a little drop down box where you can select "onto chair" or "through table" if appropriate. E.g. if you throw a chair into the ring you should be able to DDT your opponent onto it by selecting the option. Ringside you should be able to spear someone through a table. Etc.

[Payne]

Okay, I'm done trying to get stars. I'm just doing 5 minute squashes. Every time I let the AI get a few shots is, so I can get some good stars, it goes on a tear, and I lose!

[jhd1]

Okay, I'm done trying to get stars. I'm just doing 5 minute squashes. Every time I let the AI get a few shots is, so I can get some good stars, it goes on a tear, and I lose!

 

The star rating doesn't actually make any difference outside of getting a small XP bonus. It's certainly not worth bothering trying to work the match into a higher rating.

[LucianCarter]

Except that to become a true legend you need 5-star matches.

[jhd1]

Except that to become a true legend you need 5-star matches.

 

I realised that after posting, but I suspect that in the efforts to get to all the other requirements you'd almost certainly end up with at least a large number of the 5-star matches required anyway. There are some very difficult requirements and it's going to take a long career to meet them all.

[Narcizo]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="D-Lyrium" data-cite="D-Lyrium" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37132" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Are these guys you're mentioning low-level unknowns? Because unknowns/local talent with those kinds of stats probably shouldn't be happening...</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Unless they're from a different region. I've been playing RtL in the US and I fear the day I have to face a Canadian or, particularly, a Mexican wrestler - as they're at a much higher popularity level in their own country and (presumably) have the skills that go with that level. </p><p> </p><p> My moan is that I got promoted to Local Talent within 3 months but then foolishly picked a storyline with 3 matches (Canada vs USA sounded kinda fun at the time). Inevitably I lost one of those matches (my first loss) and had to face the "beat three dude(ttes) or lose popularity" storyline. Which I beat. Only to have it come up the next month as well, and lost to Christine Charisma or whatever her name is nowadays. This makes the situation as tough as it was in WreSpi where you had to win 95% of your matches to make much headway. I'd prefer a game where winning matches was harder but making headway in the world wasn't as unforgiving. </p><p> </p><p> Proceded to kill the random bottom feeders again but still haven't had a chance to rise in popularity again (is there a cooling off period)? So with 9 months gone I have lost a grand total of two matches and haven't increased in popularity at all.</p><p> </p><p> From this I have learned to avoid three-match storylines like the plague if at all possible. Being punished for a single loss is too hard. Also, don't pfaff around with tag storylines in the Indys as the game with inevitably draft in people from north or south of the border and they're likely to be a fair bit better than the scrubs you're used to facing in your own country. </p><p> </p><p> There! Done complaining now. At least in this version progress seems achievable thanks to storylines - in WreSpi2 I could never break into the Cult level because you never could gain enough popularity in all the regions of a country.</p>

[Adam Ryland]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Narcizo" data-cite="Narcizo" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37132" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Inevitably I lost one of those matches (my first loss) and had to face the "beat three dude(ttes) or lose popularity" storyline. Which I beat. Only to have it come up the next month as well, and lost to Christine Charisma or whatever her name is nowadays.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You are meant to only have to face it once; I have fixed this as of the patch that will be released today.</p>

[LucianCarter]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Narcizo" data-cite="Narcizo" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37132" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> I fear the day I have to face a Canadian or, particularly, a Mexican wrestler - as they're at a much higher popularity level in their own country and (presumably) have the skills that go with that level. .</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm having the opposite experience. After toiling for over two years on the US indy scene and getting nowhere I moved to Canada. The competition is FAR less fierce. I'm on a 9 match winning streak and I'm in the middle of the "Gut Check" storyline. I might even rise in popularity and even get a job. 4C and All Canada are both small companies so there's hope.</p>

[Lionhart]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Payne" data-cite="Payne" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37132" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Okay, I'm done trying to get stars. I'm just doing 5 minute squashes. Every time I let the AI get a few shots is, so I can get some good stars, it goes on a tear, and I lose!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The better way to have a good rated match is to not bothering yourself with that, they'll happen "naturally". Like you said, to let the AI getting some free shots is the easiest way to lose.</p><p> </p><p> By example, yesterday I had a match that I totally dominated until my opponent kicked out at 2 after a finisher. (Because he had a defensive roll of 963 while my offensive roll, after all calculations, was of 935 due to the fact that my opponent had an empty momentum... Needless to say that I was pretty upset at this time. I took a screen caption of that but I can't post it). He litteraly turned the tide after that, squashing me for a long time but in the end I won by submission and have been rewarded with a 5* rating.</p><p> </p><p> The first goal must be to win, even if it results as a shitty match.</p>

[Narcizo]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LucianCarter" data-cite="LucianCarter" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37132" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm having the opposite experience. After toiling for over two years on the US indy scene and getting nowhere I moved to Canada. The competition is FAR less fierce. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I meant that Canadian and Mexican wrestlers you face in the US are normally better than you because their "home" popularity is a lot higher than yours is (particularly Mexicans) and I presume that there is some sort of corrolation between their popularity and skill level. For example a Mexican you face in US might be Local Talent in the US but an Indy Star or whatever in Mexico and have the skills to match. </p><p> </p><p> Or not. I'm doing the old Internet trick of talking authoratively about something I know almost nothing about. Because that's what the Internet is there for. Along with porn.</p>

[Narcizo]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Adam Ryland" data-cite="Adam Ryland" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37132" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You are meant to only have to face it once; I have fixed this as of the patch that will be released today.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Good-o. I thought it might be a bug just based on the wording but wasn't really sure.</p>