Mods By Fleisch

[DomNWO]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Big Mark Smark" data-cite="Big Mark Smark" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hi Fleisch! New computer for me, just pulled down your latest DB. I jotted down a few notes on some of the standouts from the last year of Impact, as it seems like various developments haven't been included and the data was starting to look a little dated. Then the notes got too long so I've thrown them into a <a href="http://pastebin.com/eewy8Rix" rel="external nofollow">pastebin</a>. Thanks again for the mod, hope my notes help!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> To reiterate what Fleisch said, thank you for taking the time to do all of this. Fleisch's mod is very solid but people like you who keep up with other companies' products instead of Fleisch having to try to keep up with all of them improve the mod greatly.</p>

[Kijar]

<p>Great work as always!</p><p> </p><p>

Though I miss the addition of Gillian Jacobs as a user character, at this point I'm just hoping you may have a cut of her on the RWC16 Background so I can just import her back in? <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Fleisch]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Kijar" data-cite="Kijar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Great work as always!<p> </p><p> Though I miss the addition of Gillian Jacobs as a user character, at this point I'm just hoping you may have a cut of her on the RWC16 Background so I can just import her back in? <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Have I deleted her? I can't for the life of me remember why. I'll try and re-add her for next release.</p>

[Kijar]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fleisch" data-cite="Fleisch" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Have I deleted her? I can't for the life of me remember why. I'll try and re-add her for next release.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Much appreciated! <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Big Mark Smark]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fleisch" data-cite="Fleisch" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Excellent stuff. I shall use that when I get home to update the people mentioned. Thanks for taking the time.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No problem! I also noticed that the media setup is a little off. Representing Impact as owned by Anthem stops them from signing the new deals that they're actually getting (like Spike UK) and apparently pursuing (like Spike) due to clashes with the Fight Network. It might be better not to use the owner tag - Adam's notes say that it's for companies that are set up to provide content for a network, which isn't really the case with Impact.</p><p> </p><p> On the topic of Spike UK, it would be a fairly easy add, sharing the same logo as the parent channel in North America. The channel draws .29% of homes in the UK, somewhere between Sky 3/4 (.06% and .11% respectively) and Sky 2 (.4%), so probably Medium across the British Isles and with requirements that Impact can meet. One option would be a low overness requirement but Cult level or above. That would mean Spike UK is out of the reach of most promotions.</p>

[vtechguy]

Anyone know how to use the spoiler tag? I have some news coming out of ROH and TNA.

[Big Roguey]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="vtechguy" data-cite="vtechguy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Anyone know how to use the spoiler tag? I have some news coming out of ROH and TNA.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You're best to make the spoilers white in text colour.</p>

[vtechguy]

<p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Bully Ray is feuding with Adam Cole in ROH and TNA is likely heading back to Spike TV (USA). </span></p><p> </p><p>

On a side note, anyone notice Miz & Maryse always have 0 chemistry together?</p>

[miamarsden]

<p>So we've got a bit of WWE news, and this is from an interview that has been confirmed by mulitple sources.</p><p> </p><p>

The Big Show's full-time WWE contract ends in February 2018. Show said that's when his full-time wrestling career will end. I'd edit the contract to end in February 2018 as well so as to simulate reality. </p><p> </p><p>

Thank you for all your hard work!!! <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[K-Nection]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="miamarsden" data-cite="miamarsden" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So we've got a bit of WWE news, and this is from an interview that has been confirmed by mulitple sources.<p> </p><p> The Big Show's full-time WWE contract ends in February 2018. Show said that's when his full-time wrestling career will end. I'd edit the contract to end in February 2018 as well so as to simulate reality. </p><p> </p><p> Thank you for all your hard work!!! <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The fact that the Big Show can still wrestle a full time schedule in 2017 is a feat in itself. All jokes aside that guy has my respect.</p>

[miamarsden]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The fact that the Big Show can still wrestle a full time schedule in 2017 is a feat in itself. All jokes aside that guy has my respect.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Totally agreeing there. Man deserves to retire in peace, but if we know Vince at all...<img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />:rolleyes:</p>

[Von Dozier]

<p>Maybe this has been asked or discussed before, but have you ever thought of re-tooling personalities, atleast for major feds? It always seems a bit unrealistic to have 100% happy locker rooms, because people like Heath Slater, etc. are always "positive influences", when in reality they'd probably just be classified as Normal Wrestler (neither negative nor positive influence). And I don't necessarily mean a major total overhaul, what I usually do is just make a list of people with Positive Influences as shown in the 'Backstage' tab and change them to Normal Wrestler.</p><p> </p><p>

In fact, I suppose I could put together a small list if you'd like of people who could use Personality tweaking</p>

[Lukkearthur]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Von Dozier" data-cite="Von Dozier" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Maybe this has been asked or discussed before, but have you ever thought of re-tooling personalities, atleast for major feds? It always seems a bit unrealistic to have 100% happy locker rooms, because people like Heath Slater, etc. are always "positive influences", when in reality they'd probably just be classified as Normal Wrestler (neither negative nor positive influence). And I don't necessarily mean a major total overhaul, what I usually do is just make a list of people with Positive Influences as shown in the 'Backstage' tab and change them to Normal Wrestler.<p> </p><p> In fact, I suppose I could put together a small list if you'd like of people who could use Personality tweaking</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I agree with you, excluding the bit about Heath, that man is apparently great to be around and would be a positive influence.</p>

[Fleisch]

Maybe this has been asked or discussed before, but have you ever thought of re-tooling personalities, atleast for major feds? It always seems a bit unrealistic to have 100% happy locker rooms, because people like Heath Slater, etc. are always "positive influences", when in reality they'd probably just be classified as Normal Wrestler (neither negative nor positive influence). And I don't necessarily mean a major total overhaul, what I usually do is just make a list of people with Positive Influences as shown in the 'Backstage' tab and change them to Normal Wrestler.

 

In fact, I suppose I could put together a small list if you'd like of people who could use Personality tweaking

 

Thanks for the feedback. I've only set peoples personalities based on what other wrestlers have said in interviews. I would be happy to check it again though if you could do me a quick list of who has a positive backstage personality in game. I tend to leave personalities alone unless people (usually more than one) inside the business have mentioned how someone is outside of the spotlight.

[Von Dozier]

<p>Again this is mainly an attempt just for balancing locker rooms so they're not all 100% positive all the time. Not claiming to be a 100% inside expert on how exactly these people act</p><p> </p><p>

WWE</p><p>

-'Normal Wrestler'</p><p>

Mikey</p><p>

Aiden English</p><p>

Alicia Fox</p><p>

Apollo Crews</p><p>

Billy Kidman</p><p>

Bo Dallas</p><p>

Bray Wyatt</p><p>

Chad Patton</p><p>

Charles Robinson</p><p>

Curtis Axel</p><p>

Dolph Ziggler (maybe tweaked to be a negative influence. trashes WWE all the time)</p><p>

Erick Rowan</p><p>

Goldust</p><p>

Heath Slater</p><p>

Jinder Mahal</p><p>

Joey Mercury</p><p>

John Cone</p><p>

Luke Gallows</p><p>

Michael Cole</p><p>

Mike Chioda</p><p>

TJ Perkins</p><p>

-'Positive Influence'</p><p>

Xavier Woods</p><p>

-'Jerk'</p><p>

Sin Cara</p><p> </p><p>

TNA</p><p>

-'Normal Wrestler'</p><p>

Braxton Sutter</p><p>

DJ Z</p><p>

Gail Kim</p><p>

Jessie Godderz</p><p>

Josh Matthews</p><p>

Madison Rayne</p><p>

Robbie E</p><p> </p><p>

-Misc</p><p>

Dos Caras Jr. (Alberto Del Rio) - 'Jerk'</p><p>

Britani Knight (Paige) - 'Party Animal'</p><p> </p><p>

Then these two tweaks</p><p> </p><p>

Kurt Angle lifestyle</p><p>

Drinking - 35 (Reformed, Known)</p><p>

Painkillers - 60 (Reformed, Known)</p><p> </p><p>

Goldberg stamina - 40</p>

[Mattywood]

Just a note that I found that Antonio Thomas' birth year should be 1980, and his debut year 2001.

[alpha2117]

<p>Von Dozier I understand your but I think you are actually trying to alter the real world situation to fit the game mechanics. One of the reasons Axel, Fox, Slater, Mahal etc are employed is that they are good people. They are balanced personalities who do their jobs (literally) with little complaints. Even people who have issues with WWE management seem to agree that the WWE locker rooms are full of people who behave well. That probably has a lot to do with the corporate thing - a lot of people with major behavioural issues are weeded out in developmental or soon after they hit the main roster. People will still have personality clashes of course but you don't get many people who are negative influences surviving in that system. They may still have issues with management because that's where some people who could legit be called negative influences reside (eg: Kevin Dunn) </p><p> </p><p>

As for Angle being reformed that's probably jumping the gun. He's got 25 years of prescription, performance enhancing and alcohol abuse in his recent past. His recent rehab spell was a long time coming and whilst hopefully for his families sake he is clean and stays clean it is way too early to say he is reformed. Obviously no matter what he should be rated as an extremely negative influence either way given his deliberate attempts to injure other workers, his violence against other workers, his DUI's, his historic links to dodgy docs and drug suppliers, his refusal to go to rehab, the whole stalking thing and possible violence against women, his pre pro wrestling links to duPonts dodgy program etc etc. It's actually amazing how superb he was in ring given he was taking 65 super strength Vicodin a day as well as drinking and doing other stuff - most people would barely be functional on that much Vicodin.</p>

[Fleisch]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Von Dozier" data-cite="Von Dozier" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Again this is mainly an attempt just for balancing locker rooms so they're not all 100% positive all the time. Not claiming to be a 100% inside expert on how exactly these people act<p> </p><p> WWE</p><p> -'Normal Wrestler'</p><p> Mikey</p><p> Aiden English</p><p> Alicia Fox</p><p> Apollo Crews</p><p> Billy Kidman</p><p> Bo Dallas</p><p> Bray Wyatt</p><p> Chad Patton</p><p> Charles Robinson</p><p> Curtis Axel</p><p> Dolph Ziggler (maybe tweaked to be a negative influence. trashes WWE all the time)</p><p> Erick Rowan</p><p> Goldust</p><p> Heath Slater</p><p> Jinder Mahal</p><p> Joey Mercury</p><p> John Cone</p><p> Luke Gallows</p><p> Michael Cole</p><p> Mike Chioda</p><p> TJ Perkins</p><p> -'Positive Influence'</p><p> Xavier Woods</p><p> -'Jerk'</p><p> Sin Cara</p><p> </p><p> TNA</p><p> -'Normal Wrestler'</p><p> Braxton Sutter</p><p> DJ Z</p><p> Gail Kim</p><p> Jessie Godderz</p><p> Josh Matthews</p><p> Madison Rayne</p><p> Robbie E</p><p> </p><p> -Misc</p><p> Dos Caras Jr. (Alberto Del Rio) - 'Jerk'</p><p> Britani Knight (Paige) - 'Party Animal'</p><p> </p><p> Then these two tweaks</p><p> </p><p> Kurt Angle lifestyle</p><p> Drinking - 35 (Reformed, Known)</p><p> Painkillers - 60 (Reformed, Known)</p><p> </p><p> Goldberg stamina - 40</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've made a couple of changes based on your list but have kept some of them the way they are if I have heard differently in interviews from other wrestlers. Thanks for taking the time to list them.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Matt Shannon" data-cite="Matt Shannon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just a note that I found that Antonio Thomas' birth year should be 1980, and his debut year 2001.</div></blockquote><p> Thanks, I'll get it changed for next time.</p><p> </p><p> With regards to Suicide in Impact, I've opted not to have the character in because Caleb Konley is portraying both himself and the Suicide character at the moment. I've given him the alter ego so if you want to switch him yourself (if you play as Impact) then it's as easy as selecting the gimmick from his character screen.</p>

[Fleisch]

<p>Right, Global Force Wrestling. I've been thinking of a way to incorporate the belts into the game as they seem to be showcased on different shows events. I was thinking of instead of GFW being a promotion, they could be an alliance (akin to NWA) with he GFW belts being assigned to the alliance.</p><p> </p><p>

Thing is, in my data the only companies that have showcased the titles would be AAA, NJPW, Impact, wXw, Rev Pro & NGW. Here is where the problem arises...</p><p> </p><p>

NJPW have a working agreement with CMLL so should not be in an alliance with AAA. On top of that, AAA have an alliance with Lucha Underground aanyway.</p><p> </p><p>

RevPro is now (kind of) working within the WWE's UK bracket in terms of talent, and WWE would not let those workers work for Impact.</p><p> </p><p>

wXw are already in an alliance with CZW and BJPW.</p><p> </p><p>

Impact are working with Konnans Crash promotion, which would in turn mean Impact would not be aligned with AAA (whose talent seems to be leaving them and joining The Crash).</p><p> </p><p>

This would then only leave NGW who it would seem don't have ties or ill will to any other promotion.</p><p> </p><p>

So what I have decided to do is this...</p><p> </p><p>

Default Setting: Global Force are in as an alliance with the belts assigned to them but no promotions meaning they don't appear when you start a new game. The player can then decide to add promotions to the alliance in the editor themselves if they wish and the belts will then be able to be defended in the promotions you choose.</p><p> </p><p>

Global Force Wrestling are also in as a closed promotion, so if you wish to have the belts assigned to them, you will need to change the ownership of the belts in the editor to the company and change the company to not closed. Then it is up to you if you wish to delete the Global Force Alliance, or keep it.</p><p> </p><p>

It does add a little "fantasy" into it if you wish then, but also keeps it the way it is now (no GFW belts) for those who want to play with realism.</p>

[Mattywood]

<p>And the relationships keep on pouring in. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

Vickie Guerrero did an interview with PressBox and really put over Tamina as a very good friend, and she talked about how close she has been with the McMahon family. Maybe a strong friendship with Tamina, and a loyalty to Vince?</p>

[jean-vic]

The fact that the Big Show can still wrestle a full time schedule in 2017 is a feat in itself. All jokes aside that guy has my respect.

 

Same with Kane. Both men deserve credit, but it all seems to get reserved for Undertaker showing up once a year for nearly a decade.

[Von Dozier]

Von Dozier I understand your but I think you are actually trying to alter the real world situation to fit the game mechanics. One of the reasons Axel, Fox, Slater, Mahal etc are employed is that they are good people. They are balanced personalities who do their jobs (literally) with little complaints. Even people who have issues with WWE management seem to agree that the WWE locker rooms are full of people who behave well. That probably has a lot to do with the corporate thing - a lot of people with major behavioural issues are weeded out in developmental or soon after they hit the main roster. People will still have personality clashes of course but you don't get many people who are negative influences surviving in that system. They may still have issues with management because that's where some people who could legit be called negative influences reside (eg: Kevin Dunn)

 

 

Sure, but if that were the case, then 98% of the workers in the game might as well have "positive influence" then, which wouldn't be correct. What you said is exactly true, they show up and do their job with little complaint, which to me is a 'Normal Wrestler' setting, neither negative nor 100% positive. Only people I listed as true negative influences were ADR and Sin Cara, who have been in numerous backstage fights in the recent months.

 

As for Angle being reformed that's probably jumping the gun. He's got 25 years of prescription, performance enhancing and alcohol abuse in his recent past. His recent rehab spell was a long time coming and whilst hopefully for his families sake he is clean and stays clean it is way too early to say he is reformed. Obviously no matter what he should be rated as an extremely negative influence either way given his deliberate attempts to injure other workers, his violence against other workers, his DUI's, his historic links to dodgy docs and drug suppliers, his refusal to go to rehab, the whole stalking thing and possible violence against women, his pre pro wrestling links to duPonts dodgy program etc etc. It's actually amazing how superb he was in ring given he was taking 65 super strength Vicodin a day as well as drinking and doing other stuff - most people would barely be functional on that much Vicodin.

 

I was mainly speaking for in-game, as for my current TNA game where I hired him back, he is literally showing up drunk or hungover at 3 out of the 4 shows I run a month, lol. Doesn't feel that'd fit true to life these days. Recent interviews and an AMA, if we are going off interviews, he's cleaned up recently. Whether you believe it or not I guess is the thing. And I don't feel WWE would be taking him back if he was still truly messed up. Regardless, painkillers are the biggest thing that were destroying him, and in the data he had 0% in his painkiller slider.

 

As I said though, these are all just suggestions, just thought I'd chime in since I had no idea the last time the personalities were possibly touched.

[Von Dozier]

Also does ROH need a quick looking at for their personalities? I have no knowledge what-so-ever how they're ran or what goes on, but these few people stuck out to me as odd

 

Delirious is set at "very negative influence", which is strange to me because he's the head booker. Kenny King is also very negative influence, and Taeler Hendrix is a negative influence.

[vtechguy]

Kenny King is proven to be very negative lol

[ShawnCageX5]

Why not merge TNA and Global Force Wrestling together? that seems to be the way things are going anyway. I found it weird when Cody Rhodes was out there with his GFW belt. With Jarrett in charge, I get the feeling we will see those belts defended until the new titles are introduced. I see a NEX*GEN and X Division unication match happening soon.