How is storyline heat calculated?

[Tiger_Moth87]

I've just started a feud between AJ and Orton. So far two segments in.

 

Orton beat Ambrose and Cena in a triple threat match. 75 rating

Bryan hosts a contract signing, AJ attacks Orton. 80

 

But the overally heat is at a lowly 68? What exactly have I done wrong. Surely with two hot segments the heat should be higher than that?

 

I've also had the same with Brock vs Big Show. They're 5 segments in rated at 92, 87, 81, 67 and 90 but the heat for the feud is only at 70. Again seems a little low considering there are two 90 rated segments and just one "dud" at 67.

[Adam Ryland]

<p>This is covered in the "?" next to the Heat button, please see there. Make sure you are updated to the latest patch, as it was recently expanded.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42635" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Orton beat Ambrose and Cena in a triple threat match. 75 rating<p> Bryan hosts a contract signing, AJ attacks Orton. 80</p><p> But the overally heat is at a lowly 68?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Quick version: 75 is your opening segment, minus roughly 10% as storylines always start lower, which is rounded to a 66-68 range, plus a couple of points at most because angles don't contribute much. 68 is about what that would expect.</p>

[drcat123]

Always test in a match before making a storyline. If they get a 90s match. Make the storyline then book only the match for that show. You will have a much higher heat than usual heat. I found matches make up alot more of the heat than angles

[frank_olaf]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="drcat123" data-cite="drcat123" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42635" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Always test in a match before making a storyline. If they get a 90s match. Make the storyline then book only the match for that show. You will have a much higher heat than usual heat. I found matches make up alot more of the heat than angles</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If you do this, won't you run into the issue of getting penalties for having the same match too many times (repetitive booking penalty)? Or do you put them in Tag matches against each other?</p>

[d12345]

If you do this, won't you run into the issue of getting penalties for having the same match too many times (repetitive booking penalty)? Or do you put them in Tag matches against each other?

 

It depends on how long your storylines goes for. If you do just one 1v1 match then you'll have room to do 2-3 months of ppv matches after giving a one match on tv.

 

The penalty for repetitive booking for the 4th match isn't so bad and can often times be non existent if they put on a real good bout.

 

You can stretch it out another 2-3 months if you insert the competitors into some kind of multi person matches (triple threat/fatal four way etc.). Then by that point you'll be around the 6 month mark where you wont have the penalty anymore.

[Greylocke]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="frank_olaf" data-cite="frank_olaf" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42635" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If you do this, won't you run into the issue of getting penalties for having the same match too many times (repetitive booking penalty)? Or do you put them in Tag matches against each other?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Post-show dark match? I think the repetitive penalty only kicks in if it's showcased to the same audience, so if a match isn't broadcasted and most people don't see it, they can't get tired of it.</p>

[TheRyanLee]

What happens when you want to make the 1v1 match super special by saving it for PPV.. or if you want to save any physical contact between the two wrestlers for a PPV main event? I did this with Brock Lesnar and Steve Austin. I utilized the Face Off But No Contact angle on the final RAW before SummerSlam. I had to use angles and distractions to build up their story because I didn't want them touching each other at all until that special match at SummerSlam. The storyline should've been hotter, but because I was mostly limited to angles.. it hurt my overall storyline which then hurt their match at SummerSlam. They still garnered a solid B for the match, but I just felt the whole storyline should've had more heat. I did this about a month ago in real life time using T-Zone's real life mod.

[Greylocke]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TheRyanLee" data-cite="TheRyanLee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42635" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What happens when you want to make the 1v1 match super special by saving it for PPV.. or if you want to save any physical contact between the two wrestlers for a PPV main event? I did this with Brock Lesnar and Steve Austin. I utilized the Face Off But No Contact angle on the final RAW before SummerSlam. I had to use angles and distractions to build up their story because I didn't want them touching each other at all until that special match at SummerSlam. The storyline should've been hotter, but because I was mostly limited to angles.. it hurt my overall storyline which then hurt their match at SummerSlam. They still garnered a solid B for the match, but I just felt the whole storyline should've had more heat. I did this about a month ago in real life time using T-Zone's real life mod.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Using only angles shouldn't hurt your storyline ratings (unless you're using Performance-biased Product, but it doesn't sound like you are). The way storylines have been revamped in this game, you can run an entire storyline without doing a single match between the protagonists (unrealistic as it may be).</p><p> </p><p> In fact, considering Austin must be waaaay past his Time Decline age, you probably should have gotten better ratings in angles than matches. Neither man should have any difficulty in getting great angle ratings considering how popular they are. I haven't played with the Mod you're using, but I highly doubt any Modmaker will give Austin anything less than sky-high popularity and Entertainment stats. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> If your angle ratings are lower than they ought to be (compared to the popularity of the workers) check out if anything else is pulling them down. Their gimmick ratings? Are those bad? How about their momentum? Give them squash wins over other guys to build the momentum up. Or do it the same way WWE does with Lesnar in RL: use beatdowns and Menace angles (on jobbers like Heath Slater).</p><p> </p><p> I've found it much easier to score in angles than in matches. There are too many little factors that can affect matches, but for angles you can stick to Overness-based ones and then all you have to do is make sure Popularity, momentum and gimmick rating of the workers are sufficiently high.</p>

[LloydCross]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TheRyanLee" data-cite="TheRyanLee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42635" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What happens when you want to make the 1v1 match super special by saving it for PPV.. or if you want to save any physical contact between the two wrestlers for a PPV main event? I did this with Brock Lesnar and Steve Austin. I utilized the Face Off But No Contact angle on the final RAW before SummerSlam. I had to use angles and distractions to build up their story because I didn't want them touching each other at all until that special match at SummerSlam. The storyline should've been hotter, but because I was mostly limited to angles.. it hurt my overall storyline which then hurt their match at SummerSlam. They still garnered a solid B for the match, but I just felt the whole storyline should've had more heat. I did this about a month ago in real life time using T-Zone's real life mod.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Distraction spots in each others matches can help with this.</p><p> </p><p> If one of them has an okay color skill you could also do guest color commentary on the other guy's match.</p>

[drcat123]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="frank_olaf" data-cite="frank_olaf" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42635" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If you do this, won't you run into the issue of getting penalties for having the same match too many times (repetitive booking penalty)? Or do you put them in Tag matches against each other?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I will never play with that on. It is not realistic at all. It is more for challenge to the game instead of realism to me. Especially if you are playing a 80's mod. You think hogan and andre only fought at wm3. They fought all the time. In the words of verne gagne. Hogan and bockwinkel sells out. We go 20 mins up the road and do it again then again then again. So the repetitive booking goes against that idea to me. Honestly that is still true today. Best part about tew is everybody can play it differently.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TheRyanLee" data-cite="TheRyanLee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42635" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What happens when you want to make the 1v1 match super special by saving it for PPV.. or if you want to save any physical contact between the two wrestlers for a PPV main event? I did this with Brock Lesnar and Steve Austin. I utilized the Face Off But No Contact angle on the final RAW before SummerSlam. I had to use angles and distractions to build up their story because I didn't want them touching each other at all until that special match at SummerSlam. The storyline should've been hotter, but because I was mostly limited to angles.. it hurt my overall storyline which then hurt their match at SummerSlam. They still garnered a solid B for the match, but I just felt the whole storyline should've had more heat. I did this about a month ago in real life time using T-Zone's real life mod.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I recommend using a performance based product. Brock and austin still have stats. So using pop based product you are robbing yourself on the match ratings. You could based all the angles off brocks menace and austin entertainment. If you do short angles over long angles. They will always be lower ratings too</p>

[maxlanders]

Sorry to disturb, only a little question. What's the name of the segment "Bryan hosts a contract signing, AJ attacks Orton. 80". I'm trying to understand the game, and the "segment/angle" part is quite difficult, not many choices and I didin't fin how to hold a contrat signing.

[kouts]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="maxlanders" data-cite="maxlanders" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42635" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Sorry to disturb, only a little question. What's the name of the segment "Bryan hosts a contract signing, AJ attacks Orton. 80". I'm trying to understand the game, and the "segment/angle" part is quite difficult, not many choices and I didin't fin how to hold a contrat signing.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Around the internet there are angle packs which can be installed into a mod of your liking. It could also be that he used a freestyle angle.</p>

[d12345]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="drcat123" data-cite="drcat123" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42635" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I will never play with that on. It is not realistic at all. It is more for challenge to the game instead of realism to me. Especially if you are playing a 80's mod. You think hogan and andre only fought at wm3. They fought all the time. In the words of verne gagne. Hogan and bockwinkel sells out. We go 20 mins up the road and do it again then again then again. So the repetitive booking goes against that idea to me. Honestly that is still true today. Best part about tew is everybody can play it differently.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> When he says 20 minutes up the road he is not being literal. He is talking about going from one major city to the next. If you did Hogan vs Andre in the city of Minneapolis, Minnesota 5 times in 1 month that would've been a huge problem.</p><p> </p><p> He's talking going from Minneapolis to Milwaukee to Chicago etc. The difference is that TEW doesn't separate regions into different states. </p><p> </p><p> So if you aren't being televised, like many of those 80s events, then you CAN book Hogan vs Andre in 11 different regions around the country 33 times in a 3 month period (even with repetitive booking on).</p><p> </p><p> Anyway back to the op. If you want to simulate Austin vs Brock being a hot feud you need to start it off with a HOT angle.</p><p> </p><p> If your first angle is rated 100 then your feud will start off being rated a 90. That's what you need to do to book a 5 star main event feud without having the workers wrestle at all prior.</p><p> </p><p> An 80 rated angle isn't a HOT storyline. It's a good but not great angle.</p>