WCW: Heart and Soul

chrismday · April 18, 2018

War Games: Eddie Guerrero, Rey Mysterio Jr. and True Heroes vs. Salvation (The Unnatural, The Destroyer, Mortis and Alexander)

Who scores the win for their team?: The Unnatural

Which wrestler is beaten?: Rey Mysterio

*If the faces win, whoever records the victory will challenge The Unnatural for the World Heavyweight Championship at Halloween Havoc

*If Salvation wins, the loser of the fall must join the group

United States Heavyweight Championship: Rob Van Dam vs. "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles {©}

World Television Championship: Matt Hardy vs. Bobby Roode {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: Jamie Knoble vs. "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson {©}

Sean O'Haire vs. Chuck Palumbo

The Steiner Brothers vs. The Jung Dragons

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Brian Kendrick

Minoru Tanaka vs. Goldberg

What will be match of the night?: RVD vs. AJ

How many championships will change hands?: One

Who was responsible for the attack on Jeff Hardy?: Bobby Roode

What is Buff Bagwell's announcement?: He's becoming a manager

franticloser · April 18, 2018

War Games: Eddie Guerrero, Rey Mysterio Jr. and True Heroes vs. Salvation (The Unnatural, The Destroyer, Mortis and Alexander)

Who scores the win for their team?Lance Storm

Which wrestler is beaten? Alexander

*If the faces win, whoever records the victory will challenge The Unnatural for the World Heavyweight Championship at Halloween Havoc

*If Salvation wins, the loser of the fall must join the group

United States Heavyweight Championship: Rob Van Dam vs. "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles {©}

World Television Championship: Matt Hardy vs. Bobby Roode {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: Jamie Knoble vs. "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson {©}

Sean O'Haire vs. Chuck Palumbo

The Steiner Brothers vs. The Jung Dragons

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Brian Kendrick

Minoru Tanaka vs. Goldberg

What will be match of the night? United States Heavyweight Championship: Rob Van Dam vs. "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles {©}

How many championships will change hands? 0

Who was responsible for the attack on Jeff Hardy? Buff Bagwell

What is Buff Bagwell's announcement? He attacked Hardy because he is tired of all these new guys stealing the spotlight, and everyone forgot about him while he was gone.

General diary comments/questions/critiques: Great to be back, spent the last few days at work catching up with this, and I am so glad I did. You are master of booking TFC and it's always a pleasure

smartman · April 19, 2018

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Beejus" data-cite="Beejus" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So alongside all the incredible diary that TFC writes, I think I've most learned from this thread that smartman doesn't much care for our Mod Squad mods <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote> Woah, I love the mods. The Superfly Effect was my mod of the year 2010 as the best mod ever. I just think something as Earth-shattering as locking the future down like that should be clearly noted in the notes and right below or above the download links. They have their views on what the mods should be (historical representation) while I have the opposite view (fun what-ifs). The rest is just quibbling over certain wrestler's stats which is an eternal debate with every mod.

GingeyOne · April 19, 2018

Fan Scorecard:

War Games: Eddie Guerrero, Rey Mysterio Jr. and True Heroes vs. Salvation (The Unnatural, The Destroyer, Mortis and Alexander)

Who scores the win for their team? Unnatural

Which wrestler is beaten? CM Punk

*If the faces win, whoever records the victory will challenge The Unnatural for the World Heavyweight Championship at Halloween Havoc

*If Salvation wins, the loser of the fall must join the group

United States Heavyweight Championship: Rob Van Dam vs. "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles {©}

World Television Championship: Matt Hardy vs. Bobby Roode {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: Jamie Knoble vs. "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson {©}

Sean O'Haire vs. Chuck Palumbo

The Steiner Brothers vs. The Jung Dragons

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Brian Kendrick

Minoru Tanaka vs. Goldberg

What will be match of the night? War Games

How many championships will change hands? 0

Who was responsible for the attack on Jeff Hardy? RVD

What is Buff Bagwell's announcement? Returning to the ring shortly

General diary comments/questions/critiques:

The Final Countdown · April 21, 2018

September 21st, 2003: War Games <div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="FAAGdAB.png" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/FAAGdAB.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> September 21st, 2003 From Minute Maid Park in Houston, Texas Attendance: 41,553 Announce Team: "The Professor" Mike Tenay and Bret "The Hitman" Hart <img alt="2nqjRO5.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/2nqjRO5.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="nG8aWZm.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/nG8aWZm.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Official Theme Song: "War Games" <iframe width="560" height="315" src="<a href="https://www.youtube.com/embed/acorVVSBar8" rel="external nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/embed/acorVVSBar8"</a> frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe> </div> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">The Steiner Brothers vs. The Jung Dragons (w/Stacy Keibler) http://i.imgur.com/k45HPCq.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/JJpe0Lr.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/EiVoLiY.jpg<img alt="frhLUo7.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/frhLUo7.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="CtEcIzq.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/CtEcIzq.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="paNPh85.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/paNPh85.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div> Despite Rick Steiner's physical decline, I figured this would be a good way to open the show. The other three guys are all talented, plus both teams have lots of experience together, so I hoped that would be enough to cover for Rick's deficiencies. It was, even though the Steiners didn't sell well enough when the Dragons were on offense (intentionally?), and they didn't do a good enough job building the drama of the match. The action was still pretty good though, with Hayashi and Yang doing some strong aerial stuff. As for Scott, the Houston fans ate up everything he did, popping huge for all his suplexes and laughing every time he flexed or did push ups to try and impress Stacy Keibler. They reacted to him like a huge star, and he played it up to the max. Had all the flexes finally won Stacy over? She smiled and crooked her finger at Scott, who jumped off the apron and showed her his bicep. As she squeezed his bicep and pretended to be impressed, the Dragons unleashed a double team flurry on Rick inside the ring, ending with <div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="113" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/H2iVtskSkjE?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Jung Dragons - Iconoclasm / Release Powerbomb"></iframe></div></div> Scott was so caught up in flirting with Keibler that he didn't even look back to the ring until the bell rang, and by then it was far too late for him to do anything. Keibler laughed at him, then climbed into the ring to celebrate with the Dragons. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: 83</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/FIVYBul.jpg<img alt="yaQ7UIE.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/yaQ7UIE.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div> It was time for Buff Bagwell's return to TV on Piper's Pit, his first appearance since his horrible spinal injury he suffered taking a bump to the floor on a Nitro battle royal last September. He started by thanking all the fans for the cards, letters and e-mails of support they'd sent, and said he'd spent the last year hoping he'd one day be able to return to the ring. But it wasn't meant to be, and he was never going to be able to lace up the boots again. I'm sure lots of people were expecting a swerve at that point, reminiscent of the phony emotional segment the old regime booked after his scary neck injury on a Rick Steiner top rope bulldog in 1998. Unfortunately, that wasn't going to happen. Buff was not cleared to return, and this retirement is legitimate. "But you guys haven't seen the last of me!" he promised, getting choked up. "Maybe you've seen the last Buff Blockbuster, but Buff will ALWAYS be the Stuff!" Buff performed poorly here, but that's understandable given how emotional this announcement had to be for him. Roddy did a good job covering for him, toning down his usual banter and delivering a more subdued performance that fit the tone of the segment and came across well. The crowd reacted nicely to the segment and I think in a weird way it got them more excited for the show, but if the fans at home heard the same thing I did, Mike Tenay's delivery was all off here. As for Buff, he's still got more than a half a year left on his guaranteed contract, and I'll probably look to re-sign him after that if he's interested. Not sure what role he'll be given in the company yet, but I'm sure we can find something for him to do. Maybe he could be a manager? <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: 87</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">Sean O'Haire vs. Chuck Palumbo (w/Tammy Sytch) http://i.imgur.com/zbQxlTu.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/EiVoLiY.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/3ZTpoTU.jpg<img alt="wZR2OGz.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/wZR2OGz.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div> It's no secret who the star of the Thrillers was. It wasn't back then, and it's even more clear now. We went out of our way to prove it in this match, because O'Haire absolutely annihilated his former partner. All his aggression and anger stemming from his failed world title shot were taken out on Palumbo, who could do nothing but stand there and take it. Make no mistake, this was a full-on squash, to the point that it pretty much buried Palumbo and made it crystal clear he's not in O'Haire's league. Sean ended the slaughter with the Widow Maker in under five minutes. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: 59</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/u0cJ04Z.jpg Jamie Knoble (w/Tammy Sytch) vs. "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson {©} <img alt="wZR2OGz.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/wZR2OGz.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />http://i.imgur.com/CCq92jB.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/EiVoLiY.jpg<img alt="lAlFtSW.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/lAlFtSW.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div> Unlike the previous match, these two were very evenly matched. I told these two guys they had about fifteen minutes, gave them a finish and told them to go all out to have a great match. That might have put too much pressure on Knoble, who looked a little nervous at points. That's really just a minor footnote though, because the match was awesome. It was the best in Danielson's career to date, and for Knoble it was second only to his match of the year contender with Austin. Who says technical wrestling can't entertain modern fans? Knoble probably shone more to the fans, but Danielson's role in this match can't be overlooked. As talented as Jamie is, he hasn't really picked up the art of storytelling. That's something Bryan has basically mastered, and with him steering the ship and calling the shots, he was able to bring out the best in Jamie. Despite going all-out and doing more bumping and high spots than usual, they still told a really solid story out there. Danielson was better technically, but Knoble worked with more of a nasty, gritty edge to him, and it worked in his favor. Even though Tammy was there at ringside and The Empire was well-known to take any shortcut they could find, Knoble wrestled this match straight-up. Tammy was concerned when Bryan took him to the mat and grabbed his arms for Cattle Mutilation. It looked like she was considering climbing onto the apron and trying to create some sort of distraction, but she needn't have bothered. Jamie brilliantly countered the hold, rolling onto his back and suddenly pulling Bryan into a guillotine choke! Danielson fought wildly to try and free his head, but Knoble's grip was too tight. With that option cut off, Bryan focused on moving his lower body so he could get his foot onto the ropes and force a break. Just before he could get his foot on the ropes, Knoble rolled him back out towards the center and hooked the hold back in! Bryan continued to fight for a few moments, but then accepted that the situation was hopeless and tapped out! <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: 94 <img alt="ZZPLj6h.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/ZZPLj6h.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />http://i.imgur.com/ncMyE2p.jpg</div> King Corino and TAKA joined Knoble and Sytch in the ring after the match to celebrate. Corino congratulated Knoble on bringing gold back into The Empire, and said that the entire group was proud of him, including Goldberg, who was too busy getting ready for his demolition of Minoru Tanaka to come out and join in the fun. (No mention was made of Chuck Palumbo, something Mike and I failed to draw attention to on commentary. Whoops!) "Less than a week under my leadership, and already we've got some gold in our hands again!" he crowed. "But I didn't come out here JUST to congratulate my favorite redneck. There's also a bit of business to handle. Austin, I extended the olive branch to you on Nitro, and I know you're here, so I'm asking you to please join us in this ring for a friendly conversation." <div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="dIHv4ym.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/dIHv4ym.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div> Out came Austin in street clothes, wearing a cast on his arm. Despite walking into a ring with three enemies while injured, he showed no fear or hesitance. He got right in Corino's face, causing the new Empire boss to shake his head and take several steps back. "We're not here for that, Steve. We're not here to fight you tonight. Where has that gotten us? Where has it gotten you? This whole thing has dragged The Empire down. It's distracted us from our original purpose, which was winning titles, gaining power and making money. Instead our former boss got us caught up in his personal vendetta against you, and it wasn't until I threw him out that we finally got back to business and regained a title tonight! And, no disrespect, but this war has been even worse for you. Look at what our own resident redneck did to you last month. He put you on the shelf! He hurt the Hellraiser! That's why instead of coming out here and raising hell in the ring like you always do, you have to wear that cast! If this keeps up, it'll be an unnecessary distraction for us, and it could very well end your career! So since your problem was with our incompetent former leader, and it's doing none of us any good, how about you shake my hand, we call it a truce, and we all go on with our careers before this goes any further?" Austin made a show of asking the fans whether he should shake Corino's hand and accept this truce, doing a fantastic job of getting the fans into this segment. They of course said no, but Austin slowly made to accept the handshake with his uninjured hand--but then clocked Corino in the side of the head with the cast, which the fans popped huge for! He rolled out of the ring before Knoble or TAKA could react, wagging his head and talking trash the whole way back up the ramp. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: 100</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">Diamond Dallas Page vs. Brian Kendrick <img alt="Pi7V8Vw.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/Pi7V8Vw.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />http://i.imgur.com/EiVoLiY.jpg<img alt="waBVEEI.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/waBVEEI.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div> As the fans settled back into their seats following that hot angle, it was time for a match only set up over the past couple of weeks. This was the classic tale of the older veteran trying to beat some respect into the cocky youngster who thinks he's the greatest thing since sliced bread (a literal quote in this case.) Unfortunately the story of Dallas being on the downside of his career is more than just a story. He did okay here and the fans still enjoy him, but his physical decline was pretty noticeable as he tried to keep up with the much younger Kendrick. Brian did a good job though. I thought this match went pretty well overall, and I really look forward to seeing what Kendrick can do as he gets more exposure and becomes a bigger star. The obvious story here was that even though Brian was the better athlete at this point, DDP has the experience to help negate those disadvantages and capitalize on any mental mistakes his opponent makes. It all led up to Brian thinking he had an opening to hit his Sliced Bread finisher, only for DDP to counter it with a back suplex. He flashed the Diamond Cutter sign for an easy crowd pop, and struck as soon as Brian got back to his feet--but Kendrick sidestepped and DDP came up empty, falling back-first onto the mat. He got up quickly, but Brian caught him immediately with a leg lariat. The Sliced Bread followed, and many of the fans gasped or otherwise looked surprised as Kendrick got the clean pinfall on the 3-time World Champion. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: 80</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="ZZPLj6h.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/ZZPLj6h.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="oWRzmsy.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/oWRzmsy.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div> King Corino was scheduled for a recorded interview for WCW.com, but he blew right past the web crew and stormed off. The camera man hurried after him, hoping to record something newsworthy. Corino marched through the hallways until arriving back at the Empire's private dressing room. He yanked the door open, walked into the room, picked up a glass of champagne from the table and smashed it on the floor. A flower vase followed, and a box of chocolates was hurled against the wall. Goldberg, who had remained in the room as he prepared for his match, stopped his warm-ups to watch the temper tantrum. Finally he nodded his head at the TV monitor in the room, saying he'd seen what happened out there and it was time for Corino to do what "the other guy" didn't have the guts to: let him (Goldberg) break Austin in half like he should've done his first night back in WCW five months ago! Corino was silent for a moment, considering the idea, and from my spot at the announce desk I could hear the roar of the fans watching on the large video screen. Then they booed as Corino shook his head. He said that would only give Austin what he wanted. Everyone knew Goldberg could wreck Austin, but they all seemed to forget that he, King Corino, had already pinned Austin's shoulders to the mat in a major PPV singles match! He was more than equipped to solve this problem, and he was going to handle it himself. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: 100</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="rrRBDgP.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/rrRBDgP.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Matt Hardy vs. Bobby Roode (w/Ric Flair) {©} <img alt="bH5oivJ.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/bH5oivJ.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />http://i.imgur.com/EiVoLiY.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/BSCxEF8.jpg<img alt="Zbmlytw.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/Zbmlytw.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div> Matt Hardy attacked Bobby Roode as soon as he stepped into the ring, peppering him with punches before Bobby could even take his ring robe or championship belt off. That set the tone for this match, which saw Matt wrestling aggressively and trying to beat Bobby up, and Roode basically doing whatever he could to avoid a beating, whether that meant covering up, grabbing the ropes and relying on the referee to enforce the rules, or simply going to the floor. That's not to say he was dominated, because Bobby did get in some offense, mainly when he was able to use Matt's aggression against him by catching him with a shot or taking him down when he overextended himself or walked into a trap. Both guys played their roles well, and while this wasn't a contender for match of the night or anything, it was a very good match that went better than I thought. It was Roode's best match to date, and one of the best singles matches in Matt's career as well. When the timekeeper declared there was only one minute remaining in the fifteen minute time limit for all TV title matches, Hardy realized he'd been spending too much time trying to inflict pain and needed to try and wrap this match up. He went for a quick rollup, but Roode got a shoulder up before three. A hasty Twist of Fate attempt was slipped out of, and Roode grabbed onto the ropes and hung on, preventing Matt from pulling him back for another move before the bell rang. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: 87</div> Roode had held on long enough to make his third successful title defense, but that didn't stop Matt from grabbing him by the hair, pulling him away from the ropes and snapping off a Twist of Fate. Flair rolled into the ring to try and protect his charge, but Matt dropped him with a punch to the face. That didn't get as big a reaction as I figured it would; maybe we need to emphasize other facets of Flair's character now that he's a manager, instead of letting him continue on as the same old Nature Boy? Hardy got into the mount and began raining down fists on Roode's face, as Bobby just tried to cover up and protect his face. <div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="g1BYlVy.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/g1BYlVy.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div> Jeff Hardy came down the ramp to a pop from the crowd, appearing for the first time since being attacked in the back last month at the Supershow. He pulled Matt off of Roode, and Matt seemed surprised to see his younger brother back. He pointed at Bobby and made to attack him again, but Jeff shook his head. Matt looked at him as if asking why he was doing this, and Jeff asked for the microphone so he could explain. He said that at first, he couldn't remember anything about the attack or anything that happened just before it. But recently his memory started returning to him. He still can't remember the actual moment of the attack, but he does remember someone luring him into a hallway just before it happened, and it WASN'T Bobby Roode or Ric Flair. It was Father Isaac. Matt Hardy was shocked, and the fans didn't seem to know what to make of it either. I think most figured this was setting up a Matt heel turn, but obviously we had another direction in mind. Personally I like where all of this is headed, so hopefully the fans will too. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: 90</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">Minoru Tanaka vs. Goldberg (w/Tammy Sytch) <img alt="MLumza7.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/MLumza7.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />http://i.imgur.com/EiVoLiY.jpg<img alt="oWRzmsy.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/oWRzmsy.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="wZR2OGz.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/wZR2OGz.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div> Minoru is a tremendously skilled wrestler. In terms of pure technical ability, he's probably the best guy in the entire company. Unfortunately he's just nowhere near the level of Goldberg from a popularity standpoint, and the fans never reacted to him like they thought he had a legitimate chance to win. That obviously hurt the crowd heat for the match, holding it back from what it could have been. It was fine though. Minoru worked hard and performed pretty well even if the crowd didn't react to him at anything approaching a main event level, and Goldberg got huge reactions and was treated like the massive star he is. There wasn't enough selling though, as I guess Goldberg doesn't know how to convincingly sell submission holds like he's in pain. Tanaka gave it his all and showed his mettle, but the fans were right to think he didn't have a chance at actually winning. Goldberg caught him coming off the ropes with a Spear, then nailed the Jackhammer to get the pin after about ten minutes of action. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: 76</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="tUGU31v.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/tUGU31v.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />http://i.imgur.com/l0qRIIJ.jpg</div> We cut to the back for an interview segment with Arn Anderson and Bobby Heenan. Arn talked about how he knew full well how violent, how intense and how dangerous War Games is. He's been in that match more than almost any man alive and lived to tell the tale, and he would not have signed that match for tonight if he didn't think it was necessary. Then they transitioned to discussion of the third annual Stu Hart Classic. Starting tomorrow night on Nitro, 32 top contenders will compete in a single elimination tournament, and the winner will go on to challenge for the World Heavyweight Championship at Starrcade. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: 73</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/mitTbCm.jpg Rob Van Dam (w/Paul Heyman) vs. "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles {©} <img alt="dcrMvyP.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/dcrMvyP.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="P2oAF93.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/P2oAF93.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />http://i.imgur.com/EiVoLiY.jpg<img alt="ICMDAHo.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/ICMDAHo.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div> With my uncertainty about the War Games match, I had high hopes for this match to be a high point for the show from an in-ring perspective. I gave them plenty of time, and basically just let them do what they wanted. Even though RVD's the veteran, it was AJ who would be relied on to piece this match together, as he's really come on in the past several months and proven himself as a budding ring general. I thought he called a brilliant match that perfectly showcased the unique athletic styles of both wrestlers. Whether it was RVD's kicks and signature spots or AJ's sensational high flying, both guys got plenty of chances to put their best foot forward. And it wasn't a simple spotfest either, because there was an underlying theme to the action: RVD was discovering that AJ was more prepared to deal with his unique style than possibly any opponent in his career. He was so used to always being the superior wrestler from a purely athletic standpoint, but here stood a man who could match him step for step and jump for jump, and he grew progressively more frustrated as the match continued. It was a cool bit of storytelling, and elevated this match even further. This was an excellent match, and as great as Danielson vs. Knoble had been, this ever so slightly topped it. Both guys paced themselves well, gradually building up into a heated home stretch where they both dug deep to try and deliver that final move that would hopefully put the other guy away. When Styles kicked out of a Rolling Thunder Van Dam went for the split-legged moonsault, but AJ got the knees up. AJ hit a springboard forearm and then a torture rack into a power bomb, but RVD kicked out. AJ jumped onto the second rope for his asai DDT spot, but RVD saw it coming and dropped flat onto his stomach to avoid it. AJ hadn't expected that, and neither had referee Nick Patrick, who got kicked in the face by AJ accidentally. <div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="eTShQmA.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/eTShQmA.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div> Shane Douglas came running down the ramp and into the ring. He'd had a rivalry with Styles in the past, but it was no secret he'd never gotten along with RVD and had some bitter feelings with Heyman as well, so Mike and I wondered whose side he was on. That question was answered when he walked right past Van Dam, booted Styles in the gut and drove his head into the canvas with a DDT! He rolled out of the ring and stood beside Heyman with a smirk as Van Dam hopped onto the top rope and delivered the Five Star Frog Splash. As this was going on, Heyman slapped Nick Patrick across the face until he woke up, then shouted for him to make the count. Patrick got into position and counted the one... two... three! <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: 96</div> While Heyman picked up the US title from the timekeeper's table to present it to Van Dam, Douglas yanked the microphone away from the ring announcer. "A lot of people are probably shocked right now," he said. "Rob Van Dam and I have never exactly been friends, and it's no secret that Heyman and I have butted heads in the past. So why did I come in here and do what I just did? Why did I align myself with these two men? The answer is that I'm sick and tired of beating my head against the wall. All this time in WCW I've been trying to make it to the top on my own, but I'd forgotten an important lesson I learned in Philadelphia many years ago: you don't make it to the top in this business without allies." He held up three fingers as a nod to the ECW fans who remembered his time in the Triple Threat, then continued. "Just look at the lay of the land right now. When Dustin Rhodes was all on his own, he never won a damn thing. But now that he's got his little group of freaks in his corner, he's the champion of the world! But only for now! I am THE FRANCHISE, and now nothing is going to stop me from taking that belt!" Heyman shook hands with Douglas, then took the microphone from him. "Ladies and gentlemen, did I tell you so or did I tell you so? AJ Styles, you are phenomenal and you proved it in this very ring tonight. But Rob-Van-Dam is just that much better, and now he is the champion of these United States of America! And we aren't stopping there! Now that R-V-D and THE FRANCHISE are on the same side, all of WCW is in for an EXTREME day of reckoning!" This was a great segment. Even though Douglas and Heyman did all the talking, nobody came across better than Van Dam. He stood in the background with the US title over his shoulder, smirking and posing, and it worked so well. He seems so rejuvenated since turning heel and being paired with Heyman. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: 100</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/f9QKn3b.jpg War Games! Eddie Guerrero, Rey Mysterio Jr. and True Heroes vs. Salvation (The Unnatural, Mortis, Alexander and The Destroyer, w/Father Isaac) If Eddie & co. win: the winner challenges for the World Heavyweight Championship at Halloween Havoc! If Salvation wins: the loser must join Salvation! Beginning the match... <img alt="heiyf1p.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/heiyf1p.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />http://i.imgur.com/ptxupoY.jpg Lance Storm and Mortis</div> I thought it'd be a good idea to send two of the better workers in to start, so Lance and Mortis got the call. (Truthfully though, anyone on the face team could have fit the bill.) In contrast to the brutal nature of War Games, this opening five minute period was filled with some pretty straightforward wrestling. Storm tried to use mat wrestling and submission holds to wear Mortis down, or better yet, hurt him so he couldn't take part in what would be a 2 on 1 advantage for Salvation once the 5 minutes were up. Mortis pulled off some of his unique, innovative offensive moves, and this opening period was a pretty fun back and forth. Storm looked great here, and Mortis was even better. <div style="text-align:center;">Second in for Salvation... <img alt="CsQnr5C.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/CsQnr5C.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Alexander</div> Storm wisely dropped Mortis with a superkick as the time was almost up, so the masked man was no help when his partner entered the cage. Lance was there to rudely greet Alexander the moment he walked through the cage door, and for a brief moment it looked like Salvation's man advantage wasn't going to be a problem for Storm. But then Mortis got back to his feet, and the two members of The Unbound were able to get the advantage with some double teaming. They hit a double vertical suplex on Lance, then grabbed him by the back of the head and rammed him into the cage, which marked the first time in the match that someone tasted the steel. This period didn't generate as much heat as I'd hoped, and I think that's due to Alexander. He was one of the guys I was most concerned about here, and my concerns were valid. He's not as talented as the others to begin with, and he didn't seem to adjust well to the War Games environment. His performance lagged far behind the others, and he just didn't look like he belonged in a big PPV main event like this. <div style="text-align:center;">In to help Storm... <img alt="IyPxuzp.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/IyPxuzp.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> CM Punk</div> It was only logical that Punk would be next in to help his partner. He entered the cage and went straight after his foes, connecting with an early flurry of strikes on both Mortis and Alexander. The numbers game was starting to catch up with him once The Unbound caught their footing, but by then Storm was back on his feet and ready to rejoin the fray. We settled into a showdown between True Heroes and The Unbound, picking up where we left off with that tag team feud. The action really picked back up here, and that's because of Punk. He added a real spark, and despite being the youngest man in the entire match, I'd say he shone brighter than anyone. The fans were behind the Heroes, who were getting the better of the exchange when this two minute period ended. <div style="text-align:center;">Swinging the scales into Salvation's favor... http://i.imgur.com/fn8zdsQ.jpg The Unnatural</div> On commentary, we played it up as a bit of a surprise that Salvation sent in their World Champion now instead of saving him for last. Whatever the reasons, The Unnatural swiftly regained control on behalf of Salvation. Storm tried to welcome him to the match with a superkick, but the champion blocked it, spun him around and hit a swinging neckbreaker. He and Punk then went at it, and the fans ate up that battle. These two were honestly the stars of the match, which I sort of expected out of Unnatural but was pleasantly surprised by from Punk. This hot battle was cut short when Alexander and Mortis joined in, and the three members of Salvation quickly beat Punk down to the mat and put the boots to him. Storm got back to his feet and was hurled back-first into the cage, after which Unnatural threw him over the top rope and into the other ring so all of Salvation could focus on Punk. He tried to fire up and take on all three opponents, but it didn't end well. After they worked him over with punches, they rammed his face into the cage and then raked it back and forth across the mesh, which split him open and drew color for the first time in the match. <div style="text-align:center;">The equalizer... http://i.imgur.com/ffZqipS.jpg Rey Mysterio Jr.</div> All three members of Salvation turned towards the door on the opposing side of the cage, waiting for Rey to enter. Lance Storm eased the pressure a bit by coming up from behind and hitting Mortis with a belly to back suplex, and as Unnatural and Alexander tried to figure out where they should direct their attention, Rey entered the match by hopping onto the top turnbuckle and knocking them both down with a flying cross body (we raised the roof of the cage a bit to allow some more room, but he still had to be careful and not get quite his normal height off the top.) Everybody settled into three pairs after that, with Rey focusing on the man who took his title away from him while the Heroes/Unbound feud resumed with Punk attacking Mortis and Storm wrestling Alexander to the mat with a submission. <div style="text-align:center;">Salvation's closer... http://i.imgur.com/4CP35O5.jpg The Destroyer</div> It was time for Salvation's final entrant, and now Unnatural entering third started making sense, because why not send your heaviest hitter in last for mop up duty? The Destroyer made a quick impact, bypassing the action in the nearer ring to go protect the World Champion. He peeled Rey off of Unnatural, picked him up in gorilla press position and basically lawn-darted him into the side of the cage. That settled, he returned to the other ring and aided The Unbound in their battle with the Heroes. The three of them battered Punk and Storm, while in the other ring The Unnatural sat in the corner and took a breather. As we got later in this period, he locked eyes with Eddie Guerrero, who was standing in front of the door and chomping at the bit to get in. Seeing his frustration, Unnatural rubbed it in by picking Rey up by the head, grabbing the back of his mask and ramming his head into the cage. Eddie shook on the door of the cage, wanting to get in, but able to do nothing. Unnatural stared straight at him as he hooked Rey and planted him with Unnatural Selection. <div style="text-align:center;">Last into the cage... <img alt="JJHE89M.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/JJHE89M.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Eddie Guerrero THE MATCH BEYOND BEGINS!</div> The moment the officials unlocked his cage door, Eddie charged into the ring and went straight after The Unnatural, backing him into the corner and unloading with punches as the fans popped. With every participant having entered, the match could now end by submission, knockout or stoppage, and referee Nick Patrick was right there to check on Rey Mysterio. Rey was down, but he did communicate with Patrick enough that the ref allowed the match to continue. (Imagine if we'd really ended the match twenty seconds after "The Match Beyond" started!) Rey was being given time to recover, and Eddie's fire and energy was enough to hold the line. Destroyer again broke off from the fight in the other ring to try and help the champion, but Eddie ducked a big lariat and staggered him with a dropkick, then hooked him in a waistlock and drove him forward into the cage. Then he returned his attention to Unnatural, who went to his knees and pleaded for mercy. He of course got none. Eddie kicked him in the gut, threw more punches and hurled him into the cage. It didn't get any better for Unnatural when Rey got back to his feet, and he and Eddie showed just how united they were by taking turns pummeling the champion and bouncing him off all three sides of the cage in their ring. Eventually he bladed and slumped against one side of the cage, but was granted a reprieve when Destroyer got back up and dropped both Eddie and Rey with a double clothesline. Other in the other ring, the Heroes were clearly getting the upper hand on the Unbound. Of special note was their submission skills, as both Punk and Storm were getting their opponents in submission holds that might well have ended the match if the other Unbound member hadn't been able to make the save. Unless something changed, it seemed to be only a matter of time before a submission happened in that ring. Father Isaac realized it on the floor as well, and he alerted the other two Salvation members of the danger. Unnatural told Destroyer to stay in their ring and deal with Eddie and Rey while he entered the other ring to provide backup. While Destroyer picked Rey up and tried to make him quit with a Canadian backbreaker, Unnatural came up behind and dug his fingers into Storm's eyes, pulling him off of Alexander and tossing him into the cage. Punk stopped trying to hook in his Second City Stretch on Mortis and went after Unnatural, and the two got into a fistfight. Elsewhere, Destroyer gave up on the submission attempt and shifted his grip on Rey so he could drop him with the Destruction Bomb. Mysterio was saved by Eddie, who caught the big man with a dropkick to the knee. That freed Rey from his clutches and staggered him, and Eddie put him flat on his back with a trio of vertical suplexes. After a little shoulder shimmy, Eddie went to the top rope and landed a big frog splash across the chest. Not stopping there, he went back up top and delivered a second frog splash. That would've been an easy pin in an ordinary match, but since that wasn't an option in War Games, he climbed the ropes yet again and dropped down with a third frog splash! Isaac was screaming that Destroyer needed help, but who could answer the call? With Mortis exhausted and slumped in one corner and Alexander barely holding his own against Storm, it was up to Unnatural. Punk wasn't just going to let him go freely though. When Unnatural tried to break away, Punk spun him back around by the arm for more. Unnatural swung a desperation kick to the groin that dropped Punk, then hurried over into the other ring. Eddie saw him coming and was there to meet him when he tried to step through the ropes, punching him as he was in between rings. During that fracas, Mysterio recovered and picked up where Eddie left off against the downed Destroyer, climbing to the top rope and hitting a flying legdrop. After three frog splashes and that guillotine legdrop, Nick Patrick checked on Destroyer. When he got no response to repeated attempts, he ruled Destroyer was incapacitated, ending this War Games! All in all, this match exceeded my expectations. It was narrowly beaten out by RVD vs. Styles for match of the night, but it was still a great showing for these guys (well, except for Alexander) in a match type that doesn't play to the strengths of most of the wrestlers involved. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: 95</div> As the bell rang and the faces realized they'd won, the Heroes joined Rey and Eddie in one ring and they began celebrating. It was all smiles from the four as the cage began to rise, but as the ring announcer explained the finish, that changed. Eddie Guerrero looked confused at the announcement that The Destroyer had been incapacitated by Rey Mysterio Jr (and thus Rey would get the title shot next month.) He questioned Nick Patrick about it, pointing out that he was the one who put Destroyer down and hit the three frog splashes, but then Patrick explained about Rey landing the final blow, which Eddie hadn't seen since his back was turned as he fought with Unnatural. As reality set in, Eddie turned around, got in Rey's face and started yelling at him about stealing the win from him. Rey tried to defend himself and explain he'd just seen a downed opponent and went on the attack, but Eddie didn't want to hear it. He wagged his finger in Mysterio's face, then shoved him in the chest! Punk and Storm got involved then, stepping between the two men and holding them apart. Rey just looked confused, while Eddie was downright furious about what he perceived as a betrayal. The Heroes succeeded in keeping them apart until Eddie finally left the ring and walked to the back with his hands on his hips, but what had started as a triumphant moment for the good guys fell by the wayside. This was a very effective angle to close the show, and I thought everyone played their parts well. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: 100</div></div></blockquote> <div style="text-align:center;">Show Overall Grade: 95</div>

kinnikuniverse · April 21, 2018

Woah... what a sour way to end a baby face win...

NOOOOOO!!! NOT DDT!!! EDITOR, NOW!!!!

are you sure that the dragons has enough strength to pull off that move against Rick?

Dammit, you made me cry for freaking bagwell!!

Goddamn, what the hell went wrong with o'haire-palumbo?

KNOBLEMANIA IS RUNNING WILD, YEEEEHAAAW!!! wait, he's still with the empire? Darn...

Just how long Austin's injury is?

Poor DDP. Hope he comes back as a manager.

Man, Bobby really is coming to his own, huh?

God,that AJ-RVD Match was awesome! AND that triple threat swerve!! Marking the f out!!!

I'm surprised the war games match went as well as it did, considering it's a brawling type match. Really shows just how talented your main eventers really are. Hope you keep all of them when Vince comes ringing.

ALL in all, another great show with lots of intrigue! Tune in next time, ON WCW Nitro Z!!!

DHK1989 · April 21, 2018

Since Roode technically retained, do people who picked him to win get a point for that despite the time limit draw?

K-Nection · April 21, 2018

Wow that was a great show! Honestly at Alexander's age he has no choice but to get better. The fact that he tags with Mortis is bound to rub that talent off on him also. He keeps working a program with the Heroes he should see significant gains from that as well.

Man that promo by the franchise was fire!

The only thing left for Eddie and Rey to do is fight over Dominic in a ladder match <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

RVD or Shane was the only people who could take that belt off of AJ and it not hurt him. That was a good call having both of them do it <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

I'm guessing Palumbo is in some serious hot water....Honestly when I talk about this dynasty to people outside of the forum I always say that Palumbo looks like he supposed to be the muscle but in reality he is the guy that you feed first to an up and coming baby face.

smw88 · April 21, 2018

That was a really great show

The Final Countdown · April 21, 2018

War Games Wrap-up and Hall of Champions <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">September 21st, 2003</div> Chuck Palumbo glared at me as he walked past. Let him glare. I know he's furious about being completely buried in his match with O'Haire, but he's already got his money from Vince, so I don't think he has any reason to be hot. He's still under contract for a bit, but we'll probably write a final angle to get rid of him and then just let him sit at home until it's time for him to go be a sports entertainer. I honestly didn't put up that much of a fight to try and keep him when he let me know Vince was interested in him. He's got size and a good look, but he hasn't progressed all that much in-ring. He'll probably be better off in WWE. Rick Steiner was pretty unhappy about taking the loss to the Jung Dragons too, but I certainly wasn't going to ask Scott to put them over! DDP has always been a team player, but he threw a major fit when I told him he'd be putting over Kendrick. I don't really even blame him, because Kendrick wasn't anywhere near his level of popularity before the match. But that's exactly why I made the match. A win like that will be big in helping Kendrick get over, and he's got a much brighter future than DDP. There was some bad news on the pre-show, where Hayabusa came up grabbing his shoulder after being thrown over the top rope in the battle royal. It luckily isn't a serious injury, but he'll still be out of action for a month or so. I was considering him for a spot in the Stu Hart Classic and possibly as a challenger to Jamie Knoble, but obviously both of those are out. Goldberg caught some heat from some of the boys. I guess he was bragging to some of the lower card guys about how much money he was making, and they felt like he was rubbing it in their faces. I'll keep an eye out for further problems from Bill, but I didn't think this needed any response from me. After the show went off the air, Eddie Guerrero, Rey Mysterio Jr and Alexander all let me know that they think the brawling-heavy setup of the War Games match restricted what they could do, not that that was a surprise to me. Situations like that won't happen often anyway. I thanked RVD and AJ for their show-stealing performance, and also shared a laugh with Scott Steiner about how over he was with the fans. Chris Harris and Cash complained to me about their booking and asked for more TV time. I get it, but there's only so much time to go around. Jeff Hardy approached me to say that he knows his brother Matt is good friends with Shane Helms, but personally he doesn't think Helms has the ability to connect with the fans and I shouldn't look to try and feature him in any storylines. CM Punk suggested I give Johnny Parisi some promo time so he doesn't become too much of an afterthought while Tony Mamaluke continues to deal with his nagging neck injury. Another PPV, another excellent show from us. Now it's time to shift gears to the Stu Hart Classic, which I consider as sort of the unofficial start to Starrcade season.</div></blockquote> <div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/7AiYO6E.jpg </div> WWE ran their Unforgiven show head to head against War Games. The show included ECW's Kurt Angle retaining the ECW title against Scott Hall of WWE, so it didn't take long for them to make this brand split thing look silly. The main event was Rock and Jericho in a Summerslam rematch, and Rock retained in one of the best matches this year. This show also saw X-Pac win the Intercontinental title from Brock Lesnar, so I guess the push Brock's been getting has been cooled off a bit. It was a great show from them, but War Games was better. <hr noshade size=3> <div style="text-align:center;">Hall of Champions:</div> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="u9bsFuK.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/u9bsFuK.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> NITRO BRAND World Heavyweight Champion: http://i.imgur.com/haJKoFv.jpg The Unnatural http://i.imgur.com/fn8zdsQ.jpg Won: June 15th, 2003 in a triple threat match against Rey Mysterio Jr. and Eddie Guerrero at Great American Bash in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Previous Champions (since March 2001): Rey Mysterio Jr.: December 29th, 2002-June 15th, 2003 (168 days) Booker T (#5): May 19th, 2002-December 29th, 2002 (224 days) Rob Van Dam: December 30th, 2001-May 19th, 2002 (140 days) Scott Steiner (#2): July 15th, 2001-December 30th, 2001 (168 days) Booker T (#4): March 26th, 2001-July 15th, 2001 (111 days) United States Heavyweight Champion: http://i.imgur.com/mitTbCm.jpg Rob Van Dam <img alt="P2oAF93.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/P2oAF93.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Won: September 21st, 2003 from AJ Styles at War Games in Houston, Texas Previous Champions (since March 2001): AJ Styles: December 29th, 2002-September 21st, 2003 (266 days) Shane Douglas (#2): April 1st, 2002-December 29th, 2002 (272 days) Rey Misterio Jr (#2): October 14th, 2001-April 1st, 2002 (169 days) Kanyon: August 5th, 2001-October 14th, 2001 (70 days) Rey Misterio Jr: May 13th, 2001-August 5th, 2001 (85 days) Booker T: March 18th, 2001-April 30th, 2001 (44 days) Cruiserweight Champion: http://i.imgur.com/u0cJ04Z.jpg Jamie Knoble http://i.imgur.com/CCq92jB.jpg Won: September 21st, 2003 from Bryan Danielson at War Games in Houston, Texas Previous Champions (since March 2001): Bryan Danielson (#2): April 20th, 2003-September 21st, 2003 (154 days) Christopher Daniels: September 22nd, 2002-April 20th, 2003 (210 days) American Dragon: August 11th, 2002-September 22nd, 2002 (42 days) AJ Styles: April 21st, 2002-August 11th, 2002 (112 days) TAKA: December 30th, 2001-April 21st, 2002 (112 days) Jushin Liger: August 5th, 2001-December 30th, 2001 (147 days) Shane Helms: March 18th, 2001-August 5th, 2001 (140 days) World Television Champion: <img alt="rrRBDgP.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/rrRBDgP.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Bobby Roode http://i.imgur.com/BSCxEF8.jpg Won: August 24th, 2003 in a four way against Chavo Guerrero Jr, Matt Hardy and Shane Helms for the vacant title at the Japan Supershow in Tokyo, Japan Previous Champions (since July 2002): ((O'Haire reached the maximum fifteen title defenses, thus vacating the title on 7/21/03 and earning a World Heavyweight Championship match)) Sean O'Haire: January 26th, 2003-July 21st, 2003 (176 days) Fit Finlay (#2): July 29th, 2002-January 26th, 2003 (181 days) World Tag Team Champions: http://i.imgur.com/S0cu0uO.jpg The Unbound (Mortis and Alexander) (#1 as a team, #3 for Mortis, #2 for Alexander) <img alt="CsQnr5C.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/CsQnr5C.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />http://i.imgur.com/ptxupoY.jpg Won: August 24th, 2003 from Christopher Daniels and Brian Adams and True Heroes in a three way at the Japan Supershow in Tokyo, Japan Previous Champions (since March 2001): Christopher Daniels and Brian Adams (#3 for Adams): June 15th, 2003-August 24th, 2003 (70 days) The Hardys (Matt Hardy and Jeff Hardy) (#2): December 29th, 2002-June 15th, 2003 (168 days) True Heroes (Lance Storm and CM Punk) (#2): October 27th, 2002-December 29th, 2002 (63 days) The Hardys (Matt Hardy and Jeff Hardy): July 14th, 2002-October 27th, 2002 (105 days) True Heroes (Lance Storm and CM Punk): December 30th, 2001-July 14th, 2002 (196 days) The Natural Born Thrillers (Chuck Palumbo and Sean O'Haire): January 14th, 2001-December 30th, 2001 (351 days) ANNUAL CHAMPIONSHIPS: Mayhem Battle Royal (held every May): <img alt="DZfKm2b.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/DZfKm2b.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> 2003: Eddie Guerrero 2002: Diamond Dallas Page Stu Hart Classic Tournament (held every November): <img alt="1qogKhQ.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/1qogKhQ.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> 2002: Rey Mysterio Jr. 2001: Rob Van Dam </div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">The Ultimate Fan Series 2003: Satyr's Hopeful Few, managed by Satyr24 (Mortis, The Unnatural, Alexander, Christopher Daniels and Melissa Anderson) 2002: The Agents of Chaos, managed by Beejus Pilgrim (Scott Steiner, Rick Steiner, Mark Jindrak and Dustin Rhodes) 2001: The K-Nections, managed by Kevin Gaines (Booker T, Sting, AJ Styles and Alex Wright) 1989? Championship Pedigree, managed by Bernie Klein (Hulk Hogan, Ted DiBiase, Tito Santana, Robert Gibson and The Rougeau Brothers) </div></div></blockquote> <hr noshade size=3> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Prediction scores (out of a possible 14 points): Dead_Jester: 11 DavidCorperial: 10 DHK1989: 10 cbacon87: 9 Rateddc: 9 crackerjack: 8 K-Nection: 8 bonnie: 7 RKOwnage: 7 2Sweet: 7 Kijar: 7 Satyr24: 7 jscotty: 7 JMike: 6 Hapy0wns: 6 deanohbk: 6 evileddie10: 6 Bluestillidie00: 6 Theheel: 6 Cro Cop Rules: 6 chrismday: 6 franticloser: 6 kinnikuniverse: 5 DGenerationMC: 5 Uncrewed: 5 ThorJ: 5 The Lariat: 5 Wolfman84: 5 KnowYourEnemy: 4 James The Animator: 4 Warhawk8492: 4 michgcs: 4 CobheadJake: 4 Chaos Zarak: 4 Danny H22: 4 Beejus: 4 GingeyOne: 4 </div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Standings in UFS prediction contest after 4 shows: Dead_Jester: 36 cbacon87: 35 Rateddc: 34 DHK1989: 34 deanohbk: 32 Satyr24: 32 DavidCorperial: 32 Uncrewed: 31 evileddie10: 31 Happy0wns: 31 K-Nection: 31 Theheel: 30 Wolfman84: 30 jscotty: 30 Kijar: 30 crackerjack: 30 kinnikuniverse: 29 Cro Cop Rules: 29 chrismday: 29 bonnie: 29 GingeyOne: 28 James The Animator: 28 The Lariat: 28 DGenerationMC: 28 JMike: 28 Warhawk8492: 26 Danny_H22: 26 Beejus: 25 Smasher1311: 25 Nobby_McDonald: 25 123Kidd: 24 michgcs: 23 Texasrangers13: 21 smw88: 17 ElectricX: 16 Ian carlisle: 16 KnowYourEnemy: 16 CobheadJake: 14 ThorJ: 13 Chaos Zarak: 12 Chaossy: 10 Destiny: 8 The Lloyd: 7 RKOwnage: 7 2Sweet: 7 Mr. Jones: 6 Bluestillidie00: 6 franticloser: 6 </div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Lariat" data-cite="The Lariat" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> Who was responsible for the attack on Jeff Hardy?: Salvation maybe? Matt seems too obvious, and it probably is him, but I could see Salvation trying to welcome him into the fold. </div></blockquote> Good call! I didn't think anybody would get that, but you had to go and ruin it. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Beejus" data-cite="Beejus" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>War Games winner: CM Punk - He hasn't gotten a title shot yet, and the feud between he and Salvation could be pretty fun.</div></blockquote> He got one during Rey's title reign--off the top of my head, I want to say it was at Superbrawl. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Robby Boode - Matt is denied his revenge. Just don't break him or wake him, no matter how close we are to September ending.</div></blockquote> Whatever you say, Billie Joe. <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Steiner Brothers - You're putting me in a box here TFC, it's both of my favorite parts of your diary in one match! </div></blockquote> Your fault for not giving the Dragons a chance here. <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>DDP - Is the feud with London low-key still going on? That didn't really feel like it had a blowoff, so I guess Paul gets involved here?</div></blockquote> It was supposed to end on this PPV, but instead I wrapped it up in that singles match on Nitro so I could quickly set up this match with DDP. Maybe I'll pick it back up later, but for now I think the two should go their own ways. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hashasheen" data-cite="Hashasheen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Did you do that or is this a new event that happens in 2016?</div></blockquote> I did it. I used the editor to give them some money so they aren't at risk of going out of business right now, and I thought I'd make some other changes while I was at it to give the story a bit of flavor. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="smartman" data-cite="smartman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not a prediction entry I just can't see the faces losing the match unless you're doing the CM Punk heel turn. I've never liked the "face is forced to be a heel" storyline as no one in real life has pulled it off that well [insert 3 people listing one(s) I've forgotten]. I would have suggested Lance until Easy E got himself fired because he needs a mouthpiece, and as big of a fan of Corino as I was at this time irl (sigh, MLW was really fun), he's not it. Basically, I'm pretty convinced that Storm is going to flounder as a single. Plus, I don't think you could do a turn on either of them since they turned face recently. Same with Eddie, and Rey as a heel makes zero sense. So, it really comes down to which face gets the pin and win. I'd say Eddie for the same reason as above. I'd love a Punk push, but that would gut the tag division and Storm. The only reason it isn't Eddie is if he's "not the image WCW and Bret want to project". Well, and that whole pre-set time decline/retirement annoyance that Mod Squad put in on a ton of people.</div></blockquote> I'm not necessarily a fan of that angle either (but that didn't stop me from doing it with Knoble not that long ago. <img alt=":o" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/redface.png.900245280682ef18c5d82399a93c5827.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />) I loved old school MLW! I got to watch it because the Sunshine Network was included in the sports package on my satellite dish, and that was my first introduction to a lot of the top ROH guys from this era, like Punk, Joe and Homicide. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="franticloser" data-cite="franticloser" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> General diary comments/questions/critiques: Great to be back, spent the last few days at work catching up with this, and I am so glad I did. You are master of booking TFC and it's always a pleasure</div></blockquote> Welcome back! Feels like you're one of only a handful from TGAAB still around in this thread, and it's always cool to see those familiar names again! <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="kinnikuniverse" data-cite="kinnikuniverse" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> are you sure that the dragons has enough strength to pull off that move against Rick?</div></blockquote> ...Probably not. Let's just imagine that they worked together to get him up on this version. <img alt=":o" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/redface.png.900245280682ef18c5d82399a93c5827.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Dammit, you made me cry for freaking bagwell!!</div></blockquote> He's still the Stuff, daddy, and he ain't goin' anywhere! <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Goddamn, what the hell went wrong with o'haire-palumbo? </div></blockquote> It was a squash match, so it wasn't really supposed to be good. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DHK1989" data-cite="DHK1989" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Since Roode technically retained, do people who picked him to win get a point for that despite the time limit draw?</div></blockquote> Nope. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> The only thing left for Eddie and Rey to do is fight over Dominic in a ladder match <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote> ...Let's not do that.

smartman · April 21, 2018

Great War Games! A Shane & RVD tag team vs The Hardys along with True Heroes would certainly be the injection the tag division needs. Stick the Jung Dragons in there for the other face team, and it would be amazing. It certainly is a good fit for Shane.

Now, the fun is going to come at Starrcade when Bret has to decide if Eddie vs Rey for the World Title main events or Goldberg vs Austin, provided he's healthy at that point. It won't happen in the game, but that would likely be that WM (not sure the number) where Rock vs Hogan didn't close the show. The world title match wasn't bad at all, but the crowd was just blown by that point so it hurt the match.

Of course, the other question is what exactly is a Goldberg vs Austin match going to score in this WCW? Eddie vs Rey is a guaranteed 99 or 100, assuming Eddie turns heel. Hell, it might get that with both as faces. Decisions, decisions. Though, you've stacked the deck so much through your exceptional development of so many guys that you could go crazy and have Noble vs AJ for the US title in the main event and get a 95+ (I'm assuming AJ wins the title back at Havoc just so RVD and Shane can go do their thing).

JMike · April 22, 2018

I really want to see Buff Bagwell manage Colt Cabana and I don't know why. Great show, War Games is always good stuff.

Beejus · April 23, 2018

It really is too bad to see Buff never fully get utilized in this diary to his full potential. Granted, he probably would have just been another of Bret's early headaches until his contract ended (much like Jeff Jarrett was) but it's like a possible gun was removed from your arsenal without any chance to see what it could do.

Seeing Rey and Eddie at one another's throats just seems like we are about to have a classic match on our hands thanks to them. Hey, a ladder match is just fine, but maybe just make it for papers that don't relate to their families? <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

I honestly had forgotten that Punk had a title shot, but to be fair, everyone knew it wouldn't be his moment then. By now it could have been! But I'm still going to say that I'm pleased seeing how things played out, and of course I look forward to seeing what comes next in the Mysterio and Guerrero and Salvation saga. Add in the Hardyz to that mixture and we should have some incredible high action matches coming very soon!

The Final Countdown · April 23, 2018

Stu Hart Classic Preview

http://i.imgur.com/1qogKhQ.jpg

2003 Stu Hart Classic Prediction Game:

GROUP A:
Opening Round:
AJ Styles vs. King Corino
Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Douglas
Rick Steiner vs. Brian Kendrick
Lance Storm vs. Johnny Parisi

Second Round:
Styles/Corino vs. Chavo/Douglas
Steiner/Kendrick vs. Storm/Parisi

Group Winner:

GROUP B:
Opening Round:
Eddie Guerrero vs. The Destroyer
Sean O'Haire vs. TAKA
Diamond Dallas Page vs. Christopher Daniels
Sting vs. Harry Smith

Second Round:
Guerrero/Destroyer vs. O'Haire/TAKA
DDP/Daniels vs. Sting/Smith

Group Winner:

GROUP C:
Opening Round:
Jeff Hardy vs. Cash
Kidman vs. Fit Finlay
Matt Hardy vs. Mark Jindrak
Paul London vs. Goldberg

Second Round:
Jeff/Cash vs. Kidman/Finlay
Matt/Jindrak vs. London/Goldberg

Group Winner:

GROUP D:
Opening Round:
Scott Steiner vs. Shane Helms
Minoru Tanaka vs. Kaz Hayashi
CM Punk vs. Teddy Hart
Bryan Danielson vs. Yang

Second Round:
Steiner/Helms vs. Minoru/Hayashi
Punk/Teddy vs. Danielson/Yang

Group Winner:

SEMIFINALS:
(Group A Winner) vs. (Group B Winner)
(Group C Winner) vs. (Group D Winner)

2003 Stu Hart Classic Winner (worth 3 points):

I really want to see Buff Bagwell manage Colt Cabana and I don't know why. Great show, War Games is always good stuff.

That's...actually a really interesting idea. Not something I ever would've thought of, but it might be worth looking into...

It really is too bad to see Buff never fully get utilized in this diary to his full potential. Granted, he probably would have just been another of Bret's early headaches until his contract ended (much like Jeff Jarrett was) but it's like a possible gun was removed from your arsenal without any chance to see what it could do.

I think his ceiling was pretty low in my WCW. He has the potential to be a lot more valuable in your WCW I'd say, but in my product he just wasn't good enough in the ring to ever be more than midcard job fodder.

I honestly had forgotten that Punk had a title shot, but to be fair, everyone knew it wouldn't be his moment then. By now it could have been! But I'm still going to say that I'm pleased seeing how things played out, and of course I look forward to seeing what comes next in the Mysterio and Guerrero and Salvation saga. Add in the Hardyz to that mixture and we should have some incredible high action matches coming very soon!

Understandable; I sometimes forget things that happened too, and I'm the one who booked and wrote them!

Dead_Jester · April 23, 2018

2003 Stu Hart Classic Prediction Game:

GROUP A:

Opening Round:

AJ Styles vs. King Corino

Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Douglas

Rick Steiner vs. Brian Kendrick

Lance Storm vs. Johnny Parisi

Second Round:

Styles vs. Douglas

Kendrick vs. Storm

Group Winner: Styles

GROUP B:

Opening Round:

Eddie Guerrero vs. The Destroyer

Sean O'Haire vs. TAKA

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Christopher Daniels

Sting vs. Harry Smith

Second Round:

Guerrero vs. O'Haire

Daniels vs. Sting

Group Winner: Guerrero

GROUP C:

Opening Round:

Jeff Hardy vs. Cash

Kidman vs. Fit Finlay

Matt Hardy vs. Mark Jindrak

Paul London vs. Goldberg

Second Round:

Jeff vs. Finlay

Matt vs. Goldberg

Group Winner: Goldberg

GROUP D:

Opening Round:

Scott Steiner vs. Shane Helms

Minoru Tanaka vs. Kaz Hayashi

CM Punk vs. Teddy Hart

Bryan Danielson vs. Yang

Second Round:

Steiner vs. Hayashi

Punk vs. Danielson

Group Winner: Punk

SEMIFINALS:

Styles vs. Guerrero

Goldberg vs. Punk

2003 Stu Hart Classic Winner (worth 3 points): CM Punk

Man some of those brackets were tough to predict, especially Group B given that Sting and DDP are in decline but both are WCW icons.

JMike · April 23, 2018

2003 Stu Hart Classic Prediction Game:

GROUP A:

Opening Round:

AJ Styles vs. King Corino

Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Douglas

Rick Steiner vs. Brian Kendrick

Lance Storm vs. Johnny Parisi

Second Round:

Styles vs. Douglas

Kendrick vs. Storm

Group Winner:

Storm

GROUP B:

Opening Round:

Eddie Guerrero vs. The Destroyer

Sean O'Haire vs. TAKA

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Christopher Daniels

Sting vs. Harry Smith

Second Round:

Destroyer vs. O'Haire

Daniels vs. Sting

Group Winner:

O'Haire

GROUP C:

Opening Round:

Jeff Hardy vs. Cash

Kidman vs. Fit Finlay

Matt Hardy vs. Mark Jindrak

Paul London vs. Goldberg

Second Round:

Jeff vs. Finlay

Matt vs. Goldberg

Group Winner:

Goldberg

GROUP D:

Opening Round:

Scott Steiner vs. Shane Helms

Minoru Tanaka vs. Kaz Hayashi

CM Punk vs. Teddy Hart

Bryan Danielson vs. Yang

Second Round:

Steiner vs. Hayashi

Punk vs. Danielson

Group Winner:

CM Punk

SEMIFINALS:

Storm vs. O'Haire

Goldberg vs. Punk

2003 Stu Hart Classic Winner (worth 3 points): CM Punk

DHK1989 · April 23, 2018

2003 Stu Hart Classic Prediction Game:

GROUP A:

Opening Round:

AJ Styles vs. King Corino

Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Douglas

Rick Steiner vs. Brian Kendrick

Lance Storm vs. Johnny Parisi

Second Round:

King Corino vs. Shane Douglas

Brian Kendrick vs. Lance Storm

Group Winner: Shane Douglas

GROUP B:

Opening Round:

Eddie Guerrero vs. The Destroyer

Sean O'Haire vs. TAKA

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Christopher Daniels

Sting vs. Harry Smith

Second Round:

Eddie Guerrero vs. Sean O'Haire

Christopher Daniels vs. Sting

Group Winner: Eddie Guerrero

GROUP C:

Opening Round:

Jeff Hardy vs. Cash

Kidman vs. Fit Finlay

Matt Hardy vs. Mark Jindrak

Paul London vs. Goldberg

Second Round:

Jeff Hardy vs. Fit Finlay

Matt Hardy vs. Goldberg

Group Winner: Goldberg

GROUP D:

Opening Round:

Scott Steiner vs. Shane Helms

Minoru Tanaka vs. Kaz Hayashi

CM Punk vs. Teddy Hart

Bryan Danielson vs. Yang

Second Round:

Scott Steiner vs. Minoru Tanaka

CM Punk vs. Bryan Danielson

Group Winner: CM Punk

SEMIFINALS:

Shane Douglas vs. Eddie Guerrero

Goldberg vs. CM Punk

2003 Stu Hart Classic Winner (worth 3 points): Eddie Guerrero

DGenerationMC · April 23, 2018

GROUP A:

Opening Round:

AJ Styles vs. King Corino

Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Douglas

Rick Steiner vs. Brian Kendrick

Lance Storm vs. Johnny Parisi

Second Round:

Styles vs. Douglas

Kendrick vs. Storm

Group Winner: AJ Styles

GROUP B:

Opening Round:

Eddie Guerrero vs. The Destroyer

Sean O'Haire vs. TAKA

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Christopher Daniels

Sting vs. Harry Smith

Second Round:

Guerrero vs. O'Haire

Daniels vs. Sting

Group Winner: Eddie Guerrero

GROUP C:

Opening Round:

Jeff Hardy vs. Cash

Kidman vs. Fit Finlay

Matt Hardy vs. Mark Jindrak

Paul London vs. Goldberg

Second Round:

Jeff vs. Kidman

Matt vs. Goldberg

Group Winner: Goldberg

GROUP D:

Opening Round:

Scott Steiner vs. Shane Helms

Minoru Tanaka vs. Kaz Hayashi

CM Punk vs. Teddy Hart

Bryan Danielson vs. Yang

Second Round:

Steiner vs. Hayashi

Punk vs. Danielson

Group Winner: CM Punk

SEMIFINALS:

AJ Styles vs. Eddie Guerrero

Goldberg vs. CM Punk

2003 Stu Hart Classic Winner (worth 3 points): CM Punk

I expect The Empire's issue with Austin to strongly influence this tournament. Definitely some tough pick 'ems, for sure.

smw88 · April 23, 2018

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Default Stu Hart Classic Preview

Quote:

2003 Stu Hart Classic Prediction Game:

GROUP A:

Opening Round:

AJ Styles vs. King Corino

Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Douglas

Rick Steiner vs. Brian Kendrick

Lance Storm vs. Johnny Parisi

Second Round:

Styles/Corino vs. Chavo/Douglas

Steiner/Kendrick vs. Storm/Parisi

Group Winner: corino

GROUP B:

Opening Round:

Eddie Guerrero vs. The Destroyer

Sean O'Haire vs. TAKA

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Christopher Daniels

Sting vs. Harry Smith

Second Round:

Guerrero/Destroyer vs. O'Haire/TAKA

DDP/Daniels vs. Sting/Smith

Group Winner: Eddie

GROUP C:

Opening Round:

Jeff Hardy vs. Cash

Kidman vs. Fit Finlay

Matt Hardy vs. Mark Jindrak

Paul London vs. Goldberg

Second Round:

Jeff/Cash vs. Kidman/Finlay

Matt/Jindrak vs. London/Goldberg

Group Winner: Goldberg

GROUP D:

Opening Round:

Scott Steiner vs. Shane Helms

Minoru Tanaka vs. Kaz Hayashi

CM Punk vs. Teddy Hart

Bryan Danielson vs. Yang

Second Round:

Steiner/Helms vs. Minoru/Hayashi

Punk/Teddy vs. Danielson/Yang

Group Winner: punk

SEMIFINALS:

(Group A Winner) vs. (Group B Winner)

(Group C Winner) vs. (Group D Winner)

2003 Stu Hart Classic Winner (worth 3 points): Guerrero

Happy0wns · April 23, 2018

2003 Stu Hart Classic Prediction Game:

GROUP A:

Opening Round:

AJ Styles vs. King Corino

Easily the hardest match of this group to pick from..

Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Douglas

Rick Steiner vs. Brian Kendrick

Lance Storm vs. Johnny Parisi

Second Round:

Styles/Corino vs. Chavo/Douglas

Steiner/Kendrick vs. Storm/Parisi

Group Winner: Lance Storm

GROUP B:

Opening Round:

Eddie Guerrero vs. The Destroyer

Sean O'Haire vs. TAKA

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Christopher Daniels

Sting vs. Harry Smith

Second Round:

Guerrero/Destroyer vs. O'Haire/TAKA

DDP/Daniels vs. Sting/Smith

Group Winner: Eddie G.

GROUP C:

Opening Round:

Jeff Hardy vs. Cash

Kidman vs. Fit Finlay

Matt Hardy vs. Mark Jindrak

Paul London vs. Goldberg

Second Round:

Jeff/Cash vs. Kidman/Finlay

Matt/Jindrak vs. London/Goldberg

Group Winner: Goldberg

GROUP D:

Opening Round:

Scott Steiner vs. Shane Helms

Minoru Tanaka vs. Kaz Hayashi

CM Punk vs. Teddy Hart

Bryan Danielson vs. Yang

Second Round:

Steiner/Helms vs. Minoru/Hayashi

Punk/Teddy vs. Danielson/Yang

Group Winner: Bryan Danielson

SEMIFINALS:

Eddie vs. Lance

Danielson vs. Goldberg

2003 Stu Hart Classic Winner (worth 3 points): Bryan Danielson

bonnie · April 23, 2018

GROUP A:

Opening Round:

King Corino

Shane Douglas

Brian Kendrick

Lance Storm

Second Round:

Styles/Corino

Storm/Parisi

Group Winner: Corino

GROUP B:

Opening Round:

Eddie Guerrero

Sean O'Haire

Diamond Dallas Page

Sting

Second Round:

Guerrero/Destroyer

Sting

Group Winner: Guerrero

GROUP C:

Opening Round:

Jeff Hardy

Kidman

Matt Hardy

Goldberg

Second Round:

Jeff/Cash

London/Goldberg

Group Winner: Goldberg

GROUP D:

Opening Round:

Scott Steiner

Minoru Tanaka

CM Punk

Bryan Danielson

Second Round:

Minoru/Hayashi

Punk/Teddy

Group Winner: Punk

SEMIFINALS:

(Group A Winner)

(Group D Winner)

2003 Stu Hart Classic Winner (worth 3 points): punk

michgcs · April 23, 2018

2003 Stu Hart Classic Prediction Game:

GROUP A:

Opening Round:

AJ Styles vs. King Corino

Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Douglas

Rick Steiner vs. Brian Kendrick

Lance Storm vs. Johnny Parisi

Second Round:

Styles/Corino vs. Chavo/Douglas

Steiner/Kendrick vs. Storm/Parisi

Group Winner: Styles

GROUP B:

Opening Round:

Eddie Guerrero vs. The Destroyer

Sean O'Haire vs. TAKA

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Christopher Daniels

Sting vs. Harry Smith

Second Round:

Guerrero/Destroyer vs. O'Haire/TAKA

DDP/Daniels vs. Sting/Smith

Group Winner: Guerrero

GROUP C:

Opening Round:

Jeff Hardy vs. Cash

Kidman vs. Fit Finlay

Matt Hardy vs. Mark Jindrak

Paul London vs. Goldberg

Second Round:

Jeff/Cash vs. Kidman/Finlay

Matt/Jindrak vs. London/Goldberg

Group Winner: Goldberg

GROUP D:

Opening Round:

Scott Steiner vs. Shane Helms

Minoru Tanaka vs. Kaz Hayashi

CM Punk vs. Teddy Hart

Bryan Danielson vs. Yang

Second Round:

Steiner/Helms vs. Minoru/Hayashi

Punk/Teddy vs. Danielson/Yang

Group Winner: CM Punk

SEMIFINALS:

AJ Styles vs. Eddie Guerrero

Goldberg vs. CM Punk

As much as I want Punk to beat Goldberg, I don't think he will.

2003 Stu Hart Classic Winner (worth 3 points): AJ Styles

Long-shot pick that hopefully pays off. I think AJ lost to RVD for a reason and he's meant for bigger and brighter things. Maybe Austin distracts Goldberg?

Kijar · April 23, 2018

GROUP A:

Opening Round:

AJ Styles vs. King Corino

Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Douglas

Rick Steiner vs. Brian Kendrick

Lance Storm vs. Johnny Parisi

Second Round:

Styles vs. Douglas

Kendrick vs. Storm

Group Winner: Styles

GROUP B:

Opening Round:

Eddie Guerrero vs. The Destroyer

Sean O'Haire vs. TAKA

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Christopher Daniels

Sting vs. Harry Smith

Second Round:

Guerrero vs. O'Haire

Daniels vs. Sting

Group Winner: Guerrero

GROUP C:

Opening Round:

Jeff Hardy vs. Cash

Kidman vs. Fit Finlay

Matt Hardy vs. Mark Jindrak

Paul London vs. Goldberg

Second Round:

Jeff vs. Kidman

Jindrak vs. Goldberg

Group Winner: Goldberg

GROUP D:

Opening Round:

Scott Steiner vs. Shane Helms

Minoru Tanaka vs. Kaz Hayashi

CM Punk vs. Teddy Hart

Bryan Danielson vs. Yang

Second Round:

Steinervs. Hayashi

Punk vs. Danielson

Group Winner: Scotty

SEMIFINALS:

AJ vs. EG

Goldberg vs. Scotty

2003 Stu Hart Classic Winner (worth 3 points): AJ Styles

If not him, I think Eddie takes it

evileddie10 · April 23, 2018

2003 Stu Hart Classic Prediction Game:

GROUP A:

Opening Round:

AJ Styles vs. King Corino

Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Douglas

Rick Steiner vs. Brian Kendrick

Lance Storm vs. Johnny Parisi

Second Round:

Styles/Corino vs. Chavo/Douglas

Steiner/Kendrick vs. Storm/Parisi

Group Winner: Shane Douglas

GROUP B:

Opening Round:

Eddie Guerrero vs. The Destroyer

Sean O'Haire vs. TAKA

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Christopher Daniels

Sting vs. Harry Smith

Second Round:

Guerrero/Destroyer vs. O'Haire/TAKA

DDP/Daniels vs. Sting/Smith

Group Winner: Eddie Guerrero

GROUP C:

Opening Round:

Jeff Hardy vs. Cash

Kidman vs. Fit Finlay

Matt Hardy vs. Mark Jindrak

Paul London vs. Goldberg

Second Round:

Jeff/Cash vs. Kidman/Finlay

Matt/Jindrak vs. London/Goldberg

Group Winner: Goldberg

GROUP D:

Opening Round:

Scott Steiner vs. Shane Helms

Minoru Tanaka vs. Kaz Hayashi

CM Punk vs. Teddy Hart

Bryan Danielson vs. Yang

Second Round:

Steiner/Helms vs. Minoru/Hayashi

Punk/Teddy vs. Danielson/Yang

Group Winner: CM Punk

SEMIFINALS:

Shane Douglas (Group A Winner) vs. Eddie Guerrero (Group B Winner)

Goldberg (Group C Winner) vs. CM Punk (Group D Winner)

2003 Stu Hart Classic Winner (worth 3 points): Eddie Guerrero

(Hurts choosing Eddie over Punk, but it makes more sense for Eddie to win and go on to face Rey/Dustin for the Belt)

CobheadJake · April 23, 2018

2003 Stu Hart Classic Prediction Game:

GROUP A:

Opening Round:

AJ Styles vs. King Corino

Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Douglas

Rick Steiner vs. Brian Kendrick

Lance Storm vs. Johnny Parisi

Second Round:

Styles/Corino vs. Chavo/Douglas

Steiner/Kendrick vs. Storm/Parisi

Group Winner: Steve Corino

GROUP B:

Opening Round:

Eddie Guerrero vs. The Destroyer

Sean O'Haire vs. TAKA

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Christopher Daniels

Sting vs. Harry Smith

Second Round:

Guerrero/Destroyer vs. O'Haire/TAKA

DDP/Daniels vs. Sting/Smith

Group Winner:Eddie Guerrero

GROUP C:

Opening Round:

Jeff Hardy vs. Cash

Kidman vs. Fit Finlay

Matt Hardy vs. Mark Jindrak

Paul London vs. Goldberg

Second Round:

Jeff/Cash vs. Kidman/Finlay

Matt/Jindrak vs. London/Goldberg

Group Winner:Goldberg

GROUP D:

Opening Round:

Scott Steiner vs. Shane Helms

Minoru Tanaka vs. Kaz Hayashi

CM Punk vs. Teddy Hart

Bryan Danielson vs. Yang

Second Round:

Steiner/Helms vs. Minoru/Hayashi

Punk/Teddy vs. Danielson/Yang

Group Winner: Scott Steiner

SEMIFINALS:

Steve Corino (Group A Winner) vs. Eddie Guerrero (Group B Winner)

Goldberg(Group C Winner) vs. Scott Steiner (Group D Winner)

2003 Stu Hart Classic Winner (worth 3 points): Eddie Guerrero

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