WCW: Heart and Soul

K-Nection · January 26, 2017

I actually kind of liked the way you explained Scott Steiner's speeding, I remember hearing an interview with (i don't remember who) talking about how INSANE Scott is behind the wheel. Wish I remember who said that interview

I know Cornette had an entertaining story about how Scott and Rick used to prank guys on the Freeway by pulling up next to them and opening their car doors while everyone is driving. They also had a food fight with them on the freeway. Both Rick and Scott are insane lol.

BHK6 · January 26, 2017

Fan Scorecard:

Steel Cage Match for the World Heavyweight Championship: "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner {©}

United States Heavyweight Championship: Kanyon

World Tag Team Championship:

Natural Born Thrillers {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: Shane Helms

Winner receives the UFS World Championship prize: Booker T

Dustin Rhodes

Steve Corino

True Heroes

Mike Awesome

TAKA

What will be match of the night? DDP vs Steiner

How many championships will change hands? 1

chrismday · January 26, 2017

Fan Scorecard:

Steel Cage Match for the World Heavyweight Championship: Diamond Dallas Page vs. "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner {©}

United States Heavyweight Championship: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Kanyon {©}

World Tag Team Championship: Doomsday vs. Natural Born Thrillers {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: "Sugar" Shane Helms vs. Jushin Thunder Liger {©}

Winner receives the UFS World Championship prize: Sting vs. Booker T

Dustin Rhodes vs. Vampiro

AJ Styles vs. Steve Corino

Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. True Heroes

Jamie Knoble vs. Mike Awesome

Billy Kidman vs. TAKA

What will be match of the night?

Booker vs Sting

How many championships will change hands?

1

Nobby_McDonald · January 26, 2017

Steel Cage Match for the World Heavyweight Championship: Diamond Dallas Page vs. "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner {©}

United States Heavyweight Championship: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Kanyon {©}

World Tag Team Championship: Doomsday vs. Natural Born Thrillers {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: "Sugar" Shane Helms vs. Jushin Thunder Liger {©}

Winner receives the UFS World Championship prize: Sting vs. Booker T

Dustin Rhodes vs. Vampiro

AJ Styles vs. Steve Corino

Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. True Heroes

Jamie Knoble vs. Mike Awesome

Billy Kidman vs. TAKA

What will be match of the night? DDP v Steiner

How many championships will change hands? 1

Anderz · January 27, 2017

I turn my back for a second and three whole months pass - crikey! I'll preface my predictions by saying I'm still in August so I'm bound to be wrong! I can't believe I've missed the whole UFS as well!

Halloween Havoc:

Steel Cage Match for the World Heavyweight Championship: Diamond Dallas Page vs. "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner {©}

Not sure when exactly he'll lose it, but it won't be DDP that takes the gold from the Big Bad Booty Daddy.

United States Heavyweight Championship: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Kanyon {©}

Who Betta?!?

World Tag Team Championship: Doomsday vs. Natural Born Thrillers {©}

You can polish a turd and rename said turd to whatever you like, but a turd is a turd.

Cruiserweight Championship: "Sugar" Shane Helms vs. Jushin Thunder Liger {©}

You've had your fun Liger now move aside because there's a Hurricane coming through!

Winner receives the UFS World Championship prize: Sting vs. Booker T

Booker is on the cool down so let's give Sting a shot at Freakzilla.

Dustin Rhodes vs. Vampiro

AJ Styles vs. Steve Corino

Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. True Heroes

Jamie Knoble vs. Mike Awesome

Billy Kidman vs. TAKA

What will be match of the night? Sting vs Booker

How many championships will change hands? 1

rjhabeeb · January 27, 2017

As much as I'm eagerly awaiting Halloween Havoc, I am doing everything i possibly can to read TGA... and beyond. I dissapeared from this board about three months into you writing it so it is absolutely amazing to read. On that topic there was a guy, mistaken i think, who was turning diary's into pdfs with all the comments from readers removed. Any body know what happened to that? I used to have Nevermore's ECW diary but i cant find it and I've never read it, Id also like to revist TFC's ROH diary or Keefmoon's diarys or Oldschool's great diary and having a file with comments removed which i could take with me on the go would be great

KnowYourEnemy · January 27, 2017

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="rjhabeeb" data-cite="rjhabeeb" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As much as I'm eagerly awaiting Halloween Havoc, I am doing everything i possibly can to read TGA... and beyond. I dissapeared from this board about three months into you writing it so it is absolutely amazing to read. On that topic there was a guy, mistaken i think, who was turning diary's into pdfs with all the comments from readers removed. Any body know what happened to that? I used to have Nevermore's ECW diary but i cant find it and I've never read it, Id also like to revist TFC's ROH diary or Keefmoon's diarys or Oldschool's great diary and having a file with comments removed which i could take with me on the go would be great</div></blockquote> I think Mistaken used to do it? He contributed heavily to the board [he was also the original "Curator"]. He's been around on-and-off, but I haven't seen him post since '16 was released.

AMarc9-8 · January 27, 2017

Fan Scorecard:

Steel Cage Match for the World Heavyweight Championship: Diamond Dallas Page vs. "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner {©}

Makes sense for Steiner to retain here

United States Heavyweight Championship: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Kanyon {©}

Kanyon has more mileage in his current gimmick than Rey

World Tag Team Championship: Doomsday vs. Natural Born Thrillers {©}

Fits in with the Halloween theme perfectly

Cruiserweight Championship: "Sugar" Shane Helms vs. Jushin Thunder Liger {©}

Surely Liger's due to go back to Japan?

Winner receives the UFS World Championship prize: Sting vs. Booker T

Starrcade 2001 is sold in that moment

Dustin Rhodes vs. Vampiro

Vampiro in his current form is promising, non-Goldust Dustin is usually a disappointment (although Beejus' brilliant War of the Thrones proved otherwise)

AJ Styles vs. Steve Corino

AJ isn't moving up that card until he's both left Air Raid and the Cruiserweight title is free

Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. True Heroes

Lance Storm will be the making of Punk's career

Jamie Knoble vs. Mike Awesome

Could help to establish Awesome as the hardcore competitor he was in ECW by having him demolish a cruiserweight

Billy Kidman vs. TAKA

Kidman is my preferred choice, but Sunny = instant success

What will be match of the night? Sting vs Booker

How many championships will change hands? 2

The Final Countdown · January 28, 2017

October 14th, 2001: Halloween Havoc <div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/S8R6TjK.jpg October 14th, 2001 From the Binghamton Events Center in Binghamton, New York Attendance: 7,500 Announce Team: "The Professor" Mike Tenay and Bret "The Hitman" Hart http://i.imgur.com/y93UBAQ.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4Xw5lCb.jpg Official Theme Song: <iframe width="560" height="315" src="<a href="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hpczwtWbdO0?rel=0" rel="external nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/embed/hpczwtWbdO0?rel=0"</a> frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> </div> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">Jamie Knoble vs. Mike Awesome http://i.imgur.com/CCq92jB.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/EiVoLiY.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/wnP6Ftg.jpg</div> I made a last-minute switch and had this match open the show instead of Kidman vs. TAKA. Knoble and Awesome gave me no reason to second-guess myself on that one, because this was a very good opener. This was another David vs. Goliath story, but it differed from Awesome's previous matches with Misterio. The story with Rey was all about him using his high flying moves to try and combat his much larger opponent, but tonight Knoble was using technical wrestling holds. He targeted Awesome's legs quite a bit, but the big hold he kept trying to get on was the guillotine choke. Tenay and I brought up him using that hold to get the better of Awesome in a backstage altercation and really put it over as a dangerous submission. He was never quite able to get it fully applied despite multiple attempts, and an Awesome Bomb spelled the end of the match. It was another good match regardless, and showings like this will help ensure that I keep trying to find things for Knoble to do. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: B</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/sJZr1Hv.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/cxjgZpP.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Ht8KF88.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/eLttffP.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/sB86Adb.jpg </div> Kevin Gaines and the team members of the K-Nections came to the ring to accept the Ultimate Fan Series trophy. Gaines thanked the wrestlers for giving it their all and bringing that trophy home, and said he hoped to have a chance to defend the trophy in the next UFS competition. Then it was time to address the title shots. Everyone already knew that Booker and Sting would fight later in the night for the world title shot, but Gaines made sure to point out that the loser was not going to leave empty-handed because they would still receive a United States title match. As for the other titles, he'd taken the opinions of AJ Styles and Alex Wright into account. Wright chose to pursue the tag team titles, reserving the right to name his partner at a later date. AJ also wanted to go for the tag team gold, but he already had a partner in mind: he and Sting had worked so well together in the final tiebreaker match that he wanted to try and win the title alongside the icon. AJ and Wright thanked Gaines for listening to their input, for drafting them to his team, so and on and so forth. They weren't very good here, but the segment picked up when Booker took the microphone and started berating everyone on the team. He called Alex and AJ "suck-ups", Sting a thief for trying to steal his title match, and Gaines an idiot for not giving him what he deserved. When he started reminding everyone that he had never given up in his title match with Scott Steiner and yet never received a rematch, Sting cut him off and said everyone was tired of hearing the same thing over and over again. He did well on the mic tonight, helping to make up for what had been a slow start to the segment. "It isn't about what you DESERVE, it's about what you EARN. You want a chance to regain the world heavyweight title? Meet me in this ring later on tonight and EARN IT! But you better bring your A-game, because it's....SHOWTIME, FOLKS!" <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: B</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">AJ Styles (w/Stacy Keibler) vs. "King of Old School" Steve Corino http://i.imgur.com/wYALDHD.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Ht8KF88.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/EiVoLiY.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/I7app7W.jpg</div> AJ stayed in the ring after the ceremony for his match with Corino. Stacy Keibler joined him, but she was in the background for most of the match while the spotlight was on Styles versus Corino. That's where the spotlight belonged, and these two guys delivered a very strong match. It wasn't too far behind the top couple of matches of the night, and that's with both of these guys only being on the low end of the midcard spectrum popularity-wise. Imagine how good this could be if we go back to it later on when both guys are (hopefully) closer to main event level. They told a fun story of AJ's flashy athletics vs. Corino's more ground-based, "old school" style he brags about so much, but the match would be decided by shenanigans. Corino shouted something derogatory at Keibler, and the ref had to physically restrain her from getting into the ring (which I'm sure he enjoyed.) As that was going on, Corino knocked AJ out with the trusty old school foreign object to steal the pin. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: B</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/5AB1rzg.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/kccSmqv.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4Hgahfk.jpg </div> The moment Dustin Rhodes entered the ring for their match, Vampiro went out the other side. He met up with Father Isaac in the aisle, and Vampiro said that there would be no match tonight. Dustin called him a coward and demanded that he meet him in the ring for this match, but Vampiro reminded him that Dustin had asked for the match and Commissioner Arn Anderson signed it, but he himself had never given his approval. What they wanted was salvation, Isaac said when Vampiro handed him his mic, not destruction, no matter how much Dustin may seek it. Rhodes continued to call Vampiro back so they could settle this like men, but Vampiro and Isaac left ringside without another word. I thought Dustin was really good here in his delivery as a no-nonsense man's man, and I was also impressed with some improved facial expressions from Isaac that should help him become a more convincing actor. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: C</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/sB86Adb.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/haXKe6m.jpg</div> I allowed Kevin Gaines to choose anyone in the company to shoot an angle with, and he very quickly emailed us back with Midajah as his answer. I wonder why. He did a little bit of playful flirting with her as she stood alone at the backstage interview set prior to a scheduled Scott Steiner interview. She responded with some bland and meaningless words that did nothing to help the segment, but got a wicked smile on her face as she looked past Gaines. Can you see where this is going? <div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/Wi1oegS.jpg </div> Scotty stormed onto the set and told Kevin that he had two seconds to get the hell out before he made sure that he had to do the next UFS draft "from a wheelchair with one of them Shane Hawking voice box things." Gaines was supposed to act scared as he ran off, but I don't think much acting was required. Scott then decided that he was going to talk about DDP, because who needs Bobby Heenan to do an interview? (Probably best if we keep those two apart anyway.) "When someone tries to take what's mine, I make 'em hurt, and I make 'em hurt bad! I woulda snapped that kid's pencil neck, and I WILL do it if he ever tries to talk to my freak again! And Diamond Dallas Trash, that's exactly what I'm gonna do to you tonight! You wanna take my title, huh? Well you can't have it, because it's MINE! You can't take anything that's mine, and I don't wanna take anything that's yours because you don't got anything in that trailer park that I give a damn about! So tonight I'll just take what's left of your sorry ass career!" This guy is crazy. He also happens to be entertaining, and his wild ranting actually worked pretty well in context here with the really personal feud. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: B+</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">Billy Kidman (w/Torrie Wilson) vs. TAKA (w/Tammy Sytch) http://i.imgur.com/jL0KtAH.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/VMwitRH.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/EiVoLiY.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/ncMyE2p.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/omw6AWI.jpg</div> I moved this match out of the opening spot because I wanted Kidman and TAKA to try and excite the crowd with a fast-paced match with lots of high spots, and I felt that sort of match would work better closer to the middle of the show. Billy's already shown me that he works well in this style, and I wasn't surprised to see that TAKA was right at home too. Both guys impressed the crowd with some flying, including a diving crossbody from the top to the floor by Kidman and a springboard moonsault from TAKA. Tammy Sytch provided a distraction that helped stall Kidman's momentum, but Torrie Wilson was there to neutralize her after that. As those two women argued with each other on the floor, TAKA's tornado DDT attempt was countered into Kidman's sitout spinebuster for a near-fall. Kidman went up top for the shooting star press, but the escalating confrontation between Torrie and Tammy caught his attention long enough for TAKA to cut him off on the top rope. He hit a super hurricanrana, then delivered the Michinoku Driver to make his WCW PPV debut a success. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: B</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/DhzkzHt.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/zAUQMDu.jpg</div> Cameras followed a frantic Chavo Guerrero Jr. as he ran down the backstage hallways calling for Arn Anderson. The commish broke off from whatever he was doing and asked Chavo what was going on. Chavo (rather poorly) shouted for Arn to follow him, then started running back the other way. Arn was baffled but followed him anyway. After a bit of very exciting running, we arrived on the scene... <div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/u4Nhu66.jpg</div> Ric Flair was face-down on the floor in front of his private dressing room, apparently unconscious. Arn shoved his way through some of the preliminary wrestlers who'd crowded around and crouched down to check on his best friend. Ric was unresponsive, so Arn asked if anyone saw who did this. Chavo explained that he and Ric had been talking earlier in the night about their plans to challenge for the tag team titles, but when he went to meet up with him again he found him like this. None of the prelim guys had seen anything, so what happened would remain a mystery now. Ric looked fantastic here. Yes, I know his only role was to pretend to be unconscious, but he did it with such style. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: B-</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. True Heroes http://i.imgur.com/nfnKuFX.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/a0mKYEd.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/EiVoLiY.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/sOdsktm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/SAWQKXw.jpg </div> Storm and Punk mocked Morrus and Konnan for coming up short in their tag title match, but now it was time for them to try and back up their mockery and live up to their boastful tag team name. Morrus and Konnan have been working together longer, but it was clear from watching them work how much potential Storm and Punk have. They just work so well together, their mix of talent and attitude making for a world class team. Morrus threw Punk around for quite a bit, but the tide turned when Konnan was caught with a knee to the back from Punk (on the apron) as he attempted to hit his forward rolling clothesline on Storm (the legal man.) From there a cheap shot knocked Hugh off of the apron, and a tag set up the Heroic Finish. This match wasn't quite as good as it could've been because I structured it pretty heavily in Morrus' favor to silence his complaints about losing, but it did what it needed to do as far as giving True Heroes a high profile win. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: B-</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/uj4FkBt.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/SlbyjcN.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/FIVYBul.jpg </div> Roddy's back, and so is Piper's Pit. Did Bischoff/Russo ever run a Pit? If they did I can't remember. Anyway, he brought out RVD and Shane Douglas for the return of the Pit. I considered building a set near ringside, but with the size of the arenas we're running I thought it'd be better to just put a red cover over the mat and do it in the ring. Douglas again talked about his shared history with RVD in ECW, this time going into more detail. He talked about how he was not only the biggest star in ECW history, he literally CREATED the ECW championship. He should've been honored and hailed as the legend that he was, but those moronic fans passed him over and fell in love with RVD instead. All those years those people cheered for RVD and treated him like the star of ECW while ignoring the true star who made it all possible. The same thing started happening when Van Dam showed up here in WCW, but this time he wasn't going to stand back and watch it happen. This time he was going to show the entire world what he's known all along: RVD is overrated! That's why he never won the ECW World title that Shane introduced and made prestigious, and it's why he was never going to amount to anything in WCW! Shane was fantastic here; it felt like he really did resent how popular Rob got in ECW. Maybe he did, I don't know. RVD responded that the reason the people got behind him and not Shane is because he's exciting and innovative, bringing out new amazing moves people have never seen before, while Shane was still doing the same old stuff he did back when "Extreme" was still "Eastern." He could whine about it all he wanted, but he was never going to be as cool as RVD, dude. That set off some arguing between the two, and Piper continuously fanned the flames. Roddy was great here in his supporting role, throwing in a comment here or there that got the guys further worked up. After he insinuated that Douglas was jealous of Van Dam's popularity, he sat back with a grin and watched as the two fought. Roddy did a little closing monologue while officials rushed out to break the fight up, which was a very funny visual. "Well that does it for the grand return of Piper's Pit, folks, where it ain't a good night until somebody's been punched right in the noggin! I'm your host, "Rowdy" Roddy Piper, and I'll see ya again the next time we've got ourselves a little issue that needs sorting out!" <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: B</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/u0cJ04Z.jpg "Sugar" Shane Helms vs. Jushin Thunder Liger {©} http://i.imgur.com/hlbUlLo.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/EiVoLiY.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/RvGrceu.jpg</div> I had very high hopes for this match. That's why I told Shane and Jushin to go out there and try to steal the show. Both guys did respond well to the all-out nature of the match and provided some solid action, but in retrospect the match probably would've gone over better if it had been five or six minutes longer. That's my mistake I guess. Helms embraced his heel role with some aggressive tactics designed to get heat, such as pulling on Liger's mask, but he also busted out some nice offense. It was ultimately all about building up to Helms' big finish, the Vertebreaker, which he used to lay Jushin out a couple of weeks ago on Nitro. Mike and I stressed the idea that it was imperative for Liger to avoid that move at all costs, otherwise the match would be over and Shane would regain the title. Liger was always able to avoid it though, and he drilled Shane with a fisherman buster to finish another successful title defense. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: B-</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/4Xw5lCb.jpg</div> The camera crew got a close-up of me at the commentary table as I gave a brief but heartfelt tribute to my dad, and said we were going to honor him with the first annual Stu Hart Classic tournament. It'll be a 16 man single elimination tournament, starting tomorrow night on Nitro and ending at next month's Calgary Stampede PPV. The winner will headline Starrcade in a world championship match. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: B</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/S0cu0uO.jpg Doomsday vs. The Natural Born Thrillers {©} http://i.imgur.com/uY8UroB.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/hjNw7kz.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/EiVoLiY.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/zbQxlTu.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/9QpxTLI.jpg </div> Mike and I made sure to talk early on about how this was going to be a very physical match, with little or no actual "wrestling" being done. That's exactly what it was and what it was supposed to be. Essentially these two teams spent the entirety of the match beating the crap out of each other. This was pretty much the definition of what Jim Ross would call a "slobberknocker." Sure, there was very little rhyme or reason to what they were doing, but I don't think any of us expected that anyway. I did notice Bryan Clark kind of lagging here at times, so age might be catching up to the 37 year old. Adams looked fine though. All four guys fought out on the floor, with the referee struggling to get control of the match. At this point the Thrillers gave Clark a double suplex on the floor, and it was immediately obvious to all of us that something went wrong. Thankfully the referee took control of the situation right away and signaled the other three guys to leave Clark alone and skip to the planned finish, which merely meant that Adams had to continue to brawl with O'Haire and Palumbo until the ref ended the match in a double disqualification. Obviously my concern was with the health of Bryan Clark, but I was going to have to focus on my on-screen job and trust our medical staff to deal with it. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: C+</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/OZDc3yZ.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/omw6AWI.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/ncMyE2p.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/l0qRIIJ.jpg </div> Heenan caught up with the crew as they were about to leave the building in their limo. Candido humored him for a bit by answering some of his questions, revealing that their pursuit of power had only just begun. When Bobby asked about their recent flaunting of wealth (not just the limo, but also an expensive dress Tammy was wearing), she smirked and said it was none of his business. Bobby's next question was cut off by a voice in the limo calling out, telling them to cut it short and get in so they could take care of other business. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: C</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">Winner gets the UFS World Heavyweight Championship match: Sting vs. Booker T http://i.imgur.com/cxjgZpP.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/EiVoLiY.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/sJZr1Hv.jpg</div> A couple of things became apparent pretty early on in this match. One, age is catching up to the Stinger. He's not as bad off as Flair yet, but he's definitely nearing the point that we'll no longer be able to rely on him for main event quality matches. Two, the fans weren't sure how to react to Booker, and that hurt the match. That was partly by design, as we've had him showing some selfish tendencies but he hasn't gone out and out heel. While I think that's made the story more intriguing, it meant that the crowd reaction wasn't as loud or as passionate as it otherwise might have been. This match was about the story more than the actual in-ring action. Booker continued to show a bit of an attitude as he fought, with some more aggressive maneuvers and cocky behavior. He also worked more methodically, showing some improved technical skills as he controlled the middle part of the match with mat wrestling. Sting worked his normal style, and the fans still popped when he gave Booker a gorilla press and did his Tarzan-esque chest thumping pose. When he went for the Stinger Splash, Booker countered with a well-timed Harlem Sidekick. He hoped to end the match with the Book End, but Sting caught him by surprise with a small package to suddenly win the match and the title shot! <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: B-</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/WWA8fPj.jpg</div> DDP got backstage promo time. It started with him pacing back and forth before he finally stopped and turned to regard the camera. This wasn't a flashy promo; he spoke with a quiet intensity that I think really fit what we were going for. He said that the bad blood between he and Scott Steiner ran back a long time, ever since Steiner disrespected his wife. That was a big reason she was no longer in the business, but tonight he was going into that cage and fighting not for himself, but for her. "Kimberly, I know you aren't watching, but I'm gonna make us proud tonight! I'm gonna finally shut Scott Steiner's mouth--or should I say I'm gonna use that steel to rip his face up so bad that he CAN'T open his mouth? And when it's done, I'm going to silence anyone who thinks DDP's best days are behind him when I walk out a four time heavyweight champion of the world! BANG!" This was a really effective promo. Page sold the personal nature of the feud well, and he also continues to get better as this character who's looking to prove he still has one more run at the top left in him. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: A</div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/mitTbCm.jpg Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Kanyon {©} http://i.imgur.com/9v49DN6.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/EiVoLiY.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/egREuu7.jpg</div> Just like in their first match at WCW vs. The World, there was a good news/bad news situation here with Rey and Kanyon's instinctive chemistry to bring out the best in each other as opponents being at least partially negated by some subpar psychology. Another minus this time was a rough outing from Kanyon, who hurt the momentum of the match a few times with some poorly delivered moves. A powerbomb lift into a front facebuster was particularly botched, but at least Rey didn't get hurt off of it or anything. Yet despite that, this match was better than their first in Tokyo. In fact it was not only the best match on the show to this point, but one of the best matches we've run since our relaunch. Psychology issues aside, I thought they told a neat story in there with Rey doing his aerial stuff and Kanyon counteracting it with his innovative offense. They did several intricate spots where Rey would take to the air and Kanyon would catch him and execute a cool-looking throw. After one such counter, Kanyon had Rey up on his shoulders in electric chair position for the electric chair facebuster that's long been one of his signature moves, but Misterio flipped the match script by twisting around on Kanyon's shoulders and hitting a hurricanrana. Ref Charles Robinson counted once... twice... three times! Rey regains the United States title! <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: B+ http://i.imgur.com/l0qRIIJ.jpg</div> Bobby interviewed Rey in the ring after the match. It might've been a bad idea to throw Rey straight into an interview after that lengthy match, because he was terrible. He was supposed to talk about how he was excited to have regained the title and prove that winning it the first time was no fluke, but he kept tripping over his own words and saying things that made no sense. Bobby, ever quick-witted on the microphone, smoothly jumped in and took over, saving Rey from drowning on live TV. Rey's still a work in progress on the microphone, but we're going to keep giving him promos. Practice makes perfect, and he'll need to keep improving if he's going to reach his full potential in the company. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: C</div> </div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/haJKoFv.jpg Steel Cage: Diamond Dallas Page vs. "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner (w/Midajah) {©} http://i.imgur.com/WWA8fPj.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/EiVoLiY.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Wi1oegS.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/QEoXr2L.jpg </div> We aired a lengthy video as the cage was being set up, recapping the bad blood between Steiner and DDP. <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: A</div> DDP attacked Steiner the moment he stepped through the cage door, and we were off. Page dominated the early part of the match with punches, kicks and chokes before sending Scott face first into the cage. Dallas continued to control it until Steiner used his hands to block another trip into the steel, elbowed him in the ribs and introduced DDP's face to the cage for the first time. Around and around we went, with both guys being sent into the cage several times as the momentum shifted back and forth. The steel cage was the perfect gimmick to give this match some added juice that more than made up for some sketchy psychology at points. The cage fit the narrative perfectly with the (legitimate) dislike between Steiner and DDP, and Scott also looked right at home in this type of match. DDP's age does hold him back a bit at this point, but it wasn't enough of a negative to drag this match down. This was definitely better than their match last month, and also one of the very best matches we've put on. There have been a couple about on the same level, but only Steiner's match with Keiji Mutoh in Tokyo was clearly better. Steiner was smiling and flexing after scraping Page's face into the cage and drawing blood. After whipping Page back-first into the cage, he dropped him with a belly to belly suplex. That led to the Steiner Recliner, with DDP bleeding as he tried to fight his way out ala Austin in our match at Mania 13. DDP stubbornly fought through the pain and crawled his way to the ropes, with Mike and I claiming that he was so driven by his hatred of Steiner that it was helping him dig deeper than ever before. Of course since it was no disqualification, Steiner did not have to release the hold, nor did he. He ignored the referee's counts and warnings, because what was Nick Patrick going to do, physically pull him off? The match couldn't officially end since Page was in the ropes, but DDP had already gone limp by the time Steiner released the hold. Scott kissed his bicep and posed for Midajah's approval, deciding to take his time and really embarrass his rival before getting around to pinning him. Page hit a low blow from his knees! He wasn't as down and out as we thought! The crowd really popped for that, and popped even bigger as Dallas swooped in for the Diamond Cutter! But Steiner blocked the move and gave DDP a shove in the back, sending him crashing into the cage! There was no flexing or playing to Midajah now; he hauled DDP into the air and spiked him into the mat with the Steiner Screwdriver! That was all she wrote on this match and this feud, which ended with a bang (pun fully intended.) <div style="text-align:center;">Grade: B+</div></div></blockquote> <div style="text-align:center;">Show Overall Grade: B+</div>

K-Nection · January 28, 2017

I let Scott have Midjah lol!<img alt="

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Briskout · January 28, 2017

Sheesh. What a show. I almost had a perfect prediction, but that silly Knoble pick... how could I doubt Mike Awesome.

KnowYourEnemy · January 28, 2017

Observing Wrestling Fall 2001: World Championship Wrestling

Hart Blasts From The Past!

Fans watching WCW Bash at the Beach must have felt they were watching something else. At some point, Eric Bischoff must have snuck in and slammed the big, red reset button. However, WCW draws from the era before Bischoff -- Ted Turner's WCW.

The Ultimate Fan Series has a forgotten ancestor. Random pairings with no clear alignment. A title shot up for grabs. Most forgot Battebowl after Diamond Dallas' inconsequential and overturning '96 victory. Bret, or someone in the WCW offices, remembered the annual event. And while some notable critics were quickly willing to pan "The Hitman's" invention, the tournament provided pragmatic solutions to the pressing questions: where were the great alliances?

Bret guaranteed himself one heated confrontation 4 vs. 4 confrontation at Fall Brawl -- a semi-main event that guaranteed a world title shot. But what about WCW vs. The World? Was the event designed to give Scott an easy defense?

Yes, unabashedly.

Did it work? Absolutely. In 1995, Eric Bischoff scheduled Starrcade in Japan. Known as "WCW vs. The World", prominent American talents faced off with Japanese stars. Bret fielded legendary Japanese talents -- Mutoh, Liger and Gedo & Jado -- to challenge for each major WCW Title. The result? Our favorite PPV of the year, and the best WCW match since the reboot.

[End of Part 1]

KnowYourEnemy · January 28, 2017

Observing Wrestling Fall 2001: World Championship Wrestling This Man or That Man? Our June 2001 editorial stated "Booker T appears set to become WCW's figurehead after beating Big Poppa Pump at the Bash". Fans were shocked at Bash at the Beach the challenger not only went over clean in the rematch, but made Booker T pass out in the Steiner Recliner! Could Scott be primed for the same figurehead spot many pegged for Booker T? Bret sees something in The Big, Bad Booty Daddy. Is it his largest arms? Is it his advanced knowledge of calisthenics? Many speculate Scott Steiner's promo ability impressed the WCW Owner, and this led him to make the call to put Scott Steiner over. He's had three title defenses since then -- two against DDP and one against The Great Muta. These were mostly clean, except for the match with Keiji Mutoh. If Scott becomes the top guy in WCW, has Bret embraced the "cool heel" by proxy? Evidence suggests, yes. Chris Candido, our June 2001 "impact player", slowly has been building momentum. Candido assembled a stable from "up north", with TAKA debuting with a PPV victory over the established Billy Kidman. The match was excellent. In a post-match segment at Halloween Havoc, the power couples interview was cut short by a man in a limousine -- sound familiar? Many fans posted the interview reminded them of the New World Order -- a mystery benefactor, an important limousine and superstars teaming from "parts unknown" but clearly a bit north. Hall and Nash were the first "cool heels" -- they invented the shtick -- and fans would cheer them louder than the babyfaces. Bret fought on-and-off screen the "cool heel" in WWF -- Steve Austin. But now, working with WCW, has he had a change of heart? Will "cool heels" battle "against authority" in the new WCW, like the old WCW? Will Limos again peruse the parking lot? Match of the Year (So Far): Scott Steiner d. Keiji Mutoh to retain the WCW Championship, WCW Presents Halloween Havoc, A Dud of the Year (So Far): Ric Flair d. Shane Douglas at WCW Presents Bash at the Beach, B- Observing Wrestling "Impact Player" for WCW [Fall 2001]: Booker T. Booker, the former US and World Champion, now faces an impasse. Scott Steiner cleanly beat him, making him pass out, and he seems to be developing an attitude -- evident in his loss in a #1 Contender's Match to Sting. Will the new Booker be heel or face, and what will his new character entail? With several losses and frustration mounting, can he overcome this "harlem hangover" and launch himself into the title picture? <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'd actually finished this after Bash at the Beach -- and reworked it for Halloween Havoc. May seem a bit odd because of this -- didn't quite get to posting it.</div></blockquote>

Beejus · January 28, 2017

Really great job with Halloween Havoc, one could say a.... scary good show?! <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

Scott vs. Sting should be a good one in the future, and I like the addition of the Stu Hart Classic. One really must wonder who took out Flair, though...

Piper's Pit was definitely an entertaining part of the night, as Shane and RVD continue to be a sleeper hit as great feuds go. They will light up the middle of the card while Scott brings the thunder in the main event.

The Final Countdown · January 28, 2017

October 2001: Halloween Havoc Wrap-up My only concern the moment the show ended was the status of Bryan Clark after he hit his head hard on the floor on a double suplex spot. When I was initially told he'd suffered a fractured skull I feared it might be a possible career-ender, but evidently this injury wasn't nearly as bad as it might sound. My medical staff is confident he'll be 100% healthy and ready to wrestle in time for our Calgary Stampede PPV next month, which is much better news than any of us could have hoped for. I wouldn't have thought anybody this side of that egomaniac Hogan would have any issue putting Sting over, but I was wrong. It took structuring the match to make him look strong to get Booker T to agree to lose to the guy who practically built WCW. Not a great look for Book. I had plenty of praise for Rey Misterio Jr. and Kanyon for topping their previous performance in the semi main, and led a round of applause for DDP after what he put his 45-year old body through inside the cage with Steiner. I've seen some praise online for the current angle with Candido, and RVD's also high on Candido. (Maybe that's a poor choice of words.) He put him over to the boys as a future main eventer in the company. Jamie Knoble continues to impress his fellow workers. Hugh Morrus gave him a back slap as he came back through the curtain after his opener with Mike Awesome, and he told him he was turning into one hell of a worker. I agree. It's just up to me to figure out what we can do to take him to the next level as a character and elevate him up the card. Mike Sanders is unhappy with the way I've booked him. That's understandable since he got quite a bit of TV time towards the end of the Turner era and now rarely appears at all, and is a glorified job guy when he does. I just don't see anything notable about him. He's not even above average (heh) on the microphone, and that's his best attribute. <hr noshade size=3> <div style="text-align:center;">Hall of Champions: World Heavyweight Champion: http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss322/FCDiary/WCW/World.jpg "Big Poppa Pump" Scott Steiner (2nd reign) http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss322/FCDiary/WCW/SSteiner.jpg Won: July 15th, 2001 from Booker T at Bash at the Beach in Miami, Florida Previous Champions (since March 2001): Booker T: March 26th, 2001-July 15th, 2001 United States Heavyweight Champion: http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss322/FCDiary/WCW/US.jpg Rey Misterio Jr. (2nd reign) http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss322/FCDiary/WCW/Rey.jpg Won: October 14th, 2001 from Kanyon at Halloween Havoc in Binghamton, New York Previous Champions (since March 2001): Kanyon: August 5th, 2001-October 14th, 2001 Rey Misterio Jr: May 13th, 2001-August 5th, 2001 Booker T: March 18th, 2001-April 30th, 2001 Cruiserweight Champion: http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss322/FCDiary/WCW/Cruiser.jpg Jushin Thunder Liger http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss322/FCDiary/WCW/Liger.jpg Won: August 5th, 2001 from Shane Helms in a triple threat match also involving Billy Kidman at WCW vs. The World in Tokyo, Japan Previous Champions (since March 2001): Shane Helms: March 18th, 2001-August 5th, 2001 World Tag Team Champions: http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss322/FCDiary/WCW/Tag.jpg The Natural Born Thrillers (Chuck Palumbo and Sean O'Haire) (4th reign for Palumbo, 3rd for O'Haire, 1st as a team) http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss322/FCDiary/WCW/Palumbo.jpghttp://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss322/FCDiary/WCW/OHaire.jpg Won: January 14th, 2001 from Kevin Nash and Diamond Dallas Page at Sin in Indianapolis, Indiana Previous Champions (since March 2001): None </div> <hr noshade size=3> I'm sure I'm not the only one excited to see more Observing Wrestling! <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Happy0wns" data-cite="Happy0wns" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I actually kind of liked the way you explained Scott Steiner's speeding, I remember hearing an interview with (i don't remember who) talking about how INSANE Scott is behind the wheel. Wish I remember who said that interview</div></blockquote> I think you may be talking about a shoot interview Petey Williams did. It's included in one of the hilarious Steiner compilations online. "I'm gonna go down this one-way road!" <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="michgcs" data-cite="michgcs" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> United States Heavyweight Championship: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Kanyon {©} Just a feeling</div></blockquote> A good feeling! <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Anderz" data-cite="Anderz" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I turn my back for a second and three whole months pass - crikey! I'll preface my predictions by saying I'm still in August so I'm bound to be wrong! I can't believe I've missed the whole UFS as well!</div></blockquote> "Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it." -Ferris Bueller <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>World Tag Team Championship: Doomsday vs. Natural Born Thrillers {©} You can polish a turd and rename said turd to whatever you like, but a turd is a turd.</div></blockquote> You leave Adam Bomb and Crush alone! <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Cruiserweight Championship: "Sugar" Shane Helms vs. Jushin Thunder Liger {©} You've had your fun Liger now move aside because there's a Hurricane coming through!</div></blockquote> Like most weather forecasts, this was totally off the mark. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="rjhabeeb" data-cite="rjhabeeb" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As much as I'm eagerly awaiting Halloween Havoc, I am doing everything i possibly can to read TGA... and beyond. I dissapeared from this board about three months into you writing it so it is absolutely amazing to read. On that topic there was a guy, mistaken i think, who was turning diary's into pdfs with all the comments from readers removed. Any body know what happened to that? I used to have Nevermore's ECW diary but i cant find it and I've never read it, Id also like to revist TFC's ROH diary or Keefmoon's diarys or Oldschool's great diary and having a file with comments removed which i could take with me on the go would be great</div></blockquote> mistaken's thread is still pinned in the 2013 diary section, but I have no idea if the pdf links still work or not. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="AMarc9-8" data-cite="AMarc9-8" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> Winner receives the UFS World Championship prize: Sting vs. Booker T Starrcade 2001 is sold in that moment</div></blockquote> Or maybe Calgary Stampede? <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Dustin Rhodes vs. Vampiro Vampiro in his current form is promising, non-Goldust Dustin is usually a disappointment (although Beejus' brilliant War of the Thrones proved otherwise)</div></blockquote> Beejus did an amazing job with Dustin. One of my favorite characters in board history (with Pillman from the same diary being another.) <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I let Scott have Midjah lol!<img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote> More like Scott let you walk out on your own two legs. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Beejus" data-cite="Beejus" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Really great job with Halloween Havoc, one could say a.... scary good show?! <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Scott vs. Sting should be a good one in the future, and I like the addition of the Stu Hart Classic. One really must wonder who took out Flair, though...</div></blockquote> I should hope one would wonder about that, otherwise that story may not be going too well! <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

The Final Countdown · January 29, 2017

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Prediction scores (maximum possible points: 11) K-Nection: 9 smw88: 8 jscotty: 8 Rateddc: 8 Briskout: 8 2Sweet: 8 Satyr24: 8 GingeyOne: 8 chrismday: 8 Texasrangers13: 7 Happy0wns: 7 crackerjack: 7 LordofGustav: 7 BHK6: 7 Nobby_McDonald: 7 franticloser: 6 Uncrewed: 6 KnowYourEnemy: 6 Dead_Jester: 6 evileddie10: 6 DGenerationMC: 6 Beejus: 6 Warhawk8492: 6 michgcs: 6 Anderz: 6 AMarc9-8: 6 Superkickparty: 5 rjhabeeb: 5 The Lariat: 5 deanohbk: 4 Wolfman84: 4 </div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Standings in prediction contest after four shows (two shows remaining): K-Nection: 36 jscotty: 34 Beejus: 33 Uncrewed: 33 Satyr24: 33 smw88: 32 deanohbk: 31 Dead_Jester: 31 franticloser: 31 evileddie10: 30 crackerjack: 30 michgcs: 29 BHK6: 28 KnowYourEnemy: 27 SomeLazyMagic: 27 Happy0wns: 27 Nobby_McDonald: 25 Cro Cop Rules: 25 DGenerationMC: 23 Rainmaker: 22 GingeyOne: 22 Superkickparty: 19 Warhawk8492: 19 chrismday: 18 Wolfman84: 16 rjhabeeb: 14 StarshipAwsome: 14 The Lariat: 12 Rateddc: 8 Briskout: 8 2Sweet: 8 Armando Payne: 7 Texasrangers13: 7 LordofGustav: 7 Anderz: 6 AMarc9-8: 6 PopeBrandonBrownson: 5 </div></blockquote> Realized I'd forgotten to update this for the last post, so here it is. Two shows remaining in the contest, but tomorrow I'll be posting a prediction key for the Stu Hart Classic tournament. That could be worth somewhere around 20 potential points depending on how I decide to do it, so we could very well see a dramatic shift in the standings.

K-Nection · January 29, 2017

I'm not trying to complain but by my count I think I got 10 correct instead of 9? I know I missed the Book and Sting match but I don't see where I missed another one

The Final Countdown · January 29, 2017

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm not trying to complain but by my count I think I got 10 correct instead of 9? I know I missed the Book and Sting match but I don't see where I missed another one</div></blockquote> The tag team title match ended in a draw, and unlike the Vampiro/Dustin nonmatch it actually counted towards the total. I counted it towards the total despite no one getting it right, because if anyone HAD guessed a draw they would've been rewarded for it.

K-Nection · January 29, 2017

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Final Countdown" data-cite="The Final Countdown" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The tag team title match ended in a draw, and unlike the Vampiro/Dustin nonmatch it actually counted towards the total. I counted it towards the total despite no one getting it right, because if anyone HAD guessed a draw they would've been rewarded for it.</div></blockquote> Whoops I misread that ending! I'm sorry <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

The Final Countdown · January 29, 2017

Stu Hart Classic Preview <div style="text-align:center;"> http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss322/FCDiary/WCW/Stu.jpg~original WCW proudly presents the inaugural Stu Hart Classic! Entrant List:</div> Booker T Chris Candido Diamond Dallas Page Dustin Rhodes Fit Finlay Hugh Morrus "Innovator of Offense" Kanyon Konnan "The Total Package" Lex Luger Mike Awesome United States Heavyweight Champion Rey Misterio Jr. Rick Steiner Rob Van Dam Shane Douglas "King of Old School" Steve Corino Plus a mystery entrant! The first three rounds will be held on Monday Nitro over the next five weeks. The finals will take place on Sunday, November 18th at Calgary Stampede, with the winner going on to challenge for the World Heavyweight Championship at the ORIGINAL wrestling supercard, Starrcade! <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Prediction key: BLOCK A Opening Round: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Fit Finlay Konnan vs. Chris Candido Booker T vs. Kanyon Diamond Dallas Page vs. Mike Awesome Quarterfinals: Misterio or Finlay vs. Konnan or Candido Booker or Kanyon vs. DDP or Awesome Block A Winner: BLOCK B Opening Round: Rob Van Dam vs. Lex Luger Hugh Morrus vs. Rick Steiner Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas Steve Corino vs. ??? BONUS: Who is Corino's mystery opponent? Quarterfinals: RVD or Luger vs. Morrus or Steiner Rhodes or Douglas vs. Corino or ??? Block B Winner: TOURNAMENT WINNER (worth 3 points): </div></blockquote> A total of 18 points are on the line here, so this is a big chance for you to either make up some ground in the standings if you had a bad show or missed a round of predictions or something, or solidify your position if you're currently one of the top predictors. Predictions for this will remain open until I post the next month's worth of shows leading up to Calgary Stampede.

smw88 · January 29, 2017

BLOCK A

Opening Round:

Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Fit Finlay

Konnan vs. Chris Candido

Booker T vs. Kanyon

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Mike Awesome

Quarterfinals:

Misterio or Finlay vs. Konnan or Candido

Booker or Kanyon vs. DDP or Awesome

Block A Winner: booker T

BLOCK B

Opening Round:

Rob Van Dam vs. Lex Luger

Hugh Morrus vs. Rick Steiner

Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas

Steve Corino vs. ???

BONUS: Who is Corino's mystery opponent? Jeff Jarrett

Quarterfinals:

RVD or Luger vs. Morrus or Steiner

Rhodes or Douglas vs. Corino or ???

Block B Winner: RVD

TOURNAMENT WINNER (worth 3 points): RVD

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KnowYourEnemy · January 29, 2017

Prediction key:

BLOCK A

Opening Round:

Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Fit Finlay

Konnan vs. Chris Candido

Booker T vs. Kanyon

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Mike Awesome

Quarterfinals:

Misterio or Finlay vs. Konnan or Candido

Booker or Kanyon vs. DDP or Awesome

Block A Winner: Booker T

BLOCK B

Opening Round:

Rob Van Dam vs. Lex Luger

Hugh Morrus vs. Rick Steiner

Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas

Steve Corino vs. ???

BONUS: Who is Corino's mystery opponent? Sabu

Quarterfinals:

Luger vs. Steiner

Douglas vs. ???

Block B Winner: Lex Luger

TOURNAMENT WINNER (worth 3 points): Lex Luger

Dead_Jester · January 29, 2017

Prediction key:

BLOCK A

Opening Round:

Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Fit Finlay

Konnan vs. Chris Candido

Booker T vs. Kanyon

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Mike Awesome

Quarterfinals:

Misterio or Finlay vs. Konnan or Candido

Booker or Kanyon vs. DDP or Awesome

Block A Winner: Booker

BLOCK B

Opening Round:

Rob Van Dam vs. Lex Luger

Hugh Morrus vs. Rick Steiner

Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas

Steve Corino vs. ???

BONUS: Who is Corino's mystery opponent? Jamie Knoble

Quarterfinals:

RVD or Luger vs. Morrus or Steiner

Rhodes or Douglas vs. Corino or ???

Block B Winner: RVD

TOURNAMENT WINNER (worth 3 points): RVD

deanohbk · January 29, 2017

Rey

Candido

Booker

DDP

Misterio

Booker

RVD

Steiner

Dustin

???

??? - AJ

Steiner

???

TOURNAMENT WINNER - Booker

AMarc9-8 · January 29, 2017

Prediction key:

BLOCK A

Opening Round:

Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Fit Finlay

Konnan vs. Chris Candido

Booker T vs. Kanyon

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Mike Awesome

Quarterfinals:

Misterio vs. Candido

Booker vs. DDP

Block A Winner: Booker T

BLOCK B

Opening Round:

Rob Van Dam vs. Lex Luger

Hugh Morrus vs. Rick Steiner

Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas

Steve Corino vs. ???

BONUS: Who is Corino's mystery opponent? Kevin Nash

Quarterfinals:

RVD vs. Steiner

Douglas vs. ???

Block B Winner: RVD

TOURNAMENT WINNER (worth 3 points): RVD

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