Ideas for New Match Types

[LloydCross]

I'm particularly looking for ideas for things that would make sense to give a Content Risk of Average or High without being a hardcore or sex match. This is inspired by my new game where the product settings attract fans who don't respond well to low risk matches. This leads to a penalty for any match with less than Average for Content Risk. As far as I can tell, this isn't a particularly huge penalty.

 

The default settings basically have a few Average risk sexy matches, some Very High risk deathmatches, and as far as I can tell only one High risk match, which is one of the barbed wire matches. I upped the Weapons match to Average because I felt that made sense, but I'm looking for some ideas to add some flavor.

 

One idea I had was a flag burning match, where the winner is the first to burn or otherwise disgrace the flag of the opponent's country, which I would put in as a brawl or regular match with either High or Very High content risk because that would piss a lot of people off.

 

Any thoughts...?

[cappyboy]

<p>i have a couple personal gimmick matches that I use in my games. Don't know if either would fit your needs but they tend to work for me.</p><p> </p><p>

The first is called a Buried Treasure match. Imagine like a 2 out of 3 falls or Texas death match combined with the boxes on poles like in TNA's Feast Or Fired. Except instead of being on poles the undercarriage of the ring is divided into quadrants. After each successful fall, you get to pick a quadrant of the ring and use whatever if anything is in the box under there. End conditions being otherwise the same as any other 2 out of 3 or Texas Death match you choose. Content Risk could then be modulated according to how many treasures are "buried" and whether it's using a 2 out of 3 or Texas death match structure.</p><p> </p><p>

The other is one I picked up in an e-fed circa 2003 and is known as a Hostile Environment match. It's essentially hardcore light. So foreign objects are still illegal but anything that is already present at ringside is fair game. So you can't bring your kendo stick to the ring but if you want to use a fan's chair or the guardrail or the ring post, you're good. It was already there as a part of the arena environment. You're just using it for hostile reasons on the spur of the moment. </p><p> </p><p>

Of course, it should be noted I don't do hardcore hardly at all in my promotions as a general rule. So the Hostile Environment match might be a step up in intensity for me but might be a step down for you. Still if it helps you, it's here. And even if it doesn't maybe it will help someone else.</p>

[Andylion]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cappyboy" data-cite="cappyboy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>i have a couple personal gimmick matches that I use in my games. Don't know if either would fit your needs but they tend to work for me.<p> </p><p> The first is called a Buried Treasure match. Imagine like a 2 out of 3 falls or Texas death match combined with the boxes on poles like in TNA's Feast Or Fired. Except instead of being on poles the undercarriage of the ring is divided into quadrants. After each successful fall, you get to pick a quadrant of the ring and use whatever if anything is in the box under there. End conditions being otherwise the same as any other 2 out of 3 or Texas Death match you choose. Content Risk could then be modulated according to how many treasures are "buried" and whether it's using a 2 out of 3 or Texas death match structure.</p><p> </p><p> The other is one I picked up in an e-fed circa 2003 and is known as a Hostile Environment match. It's essentially hardcore light. So foreign objects are still illegal but anything that is already present at ringside is fair game. So you can't bring your kendo stick to the ring but if you want to use a fan's chair or the guardrail or the ring post, you're good. It was already there as a part of the arena environment. You're just using it for hostile reasons on the spur of the moment. </p><p> </p><p> Of course, it should be noted I don't do hardcore hardly at all in my promotions as a general rule. So the Hostile Environment match might be a step up in intensity for me but might be a step down for you. Still if it helps you, it's here. And even if it doesn't maybe it will help someone else.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm so tempted to try to find someone that could use that first one as a gimmick match in my 1997 dynasty...</p>

[Remianen]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LloydCross" data-cite="LloydCross" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm particularly looking for ideas for things that would make sense to give a Content Risk of Average or High without being a hardcore or sex match. This is inspired by my new game where the product settings attract fans who don't respond well to low risk matches. This leads to a penalty for any match with less than Average for Content Risk. As far as I can tell, this isn't a particularly huge penalty.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This doesn't really require a new match type, per se. Any match with no count outs or DQ could realistically be 'average' (or higher) in content risk. Different companies use different names for the same concept so it can be confusing. For example, an "Extreme Rules" match can be the exact same thing as a no DQ match which can be the same thing as a Street Fight. The key differences are nuance and that's not always consistent. So really, the match's content risk depends on YOU.</p><p> </p><p> I have a match type called the Scavenger Hunt which was a cross between a 'on a pole' match, a ladder match, and the old 24/7 WWF Hardcore title. Pinfalls or submissions entitled the winner to choose a briefcase to open which would have a clue as to where in the arena the belt was hanging. Find the belt and make it back to the ring and you're declared the winner. But, on your way back to the ring, you can be robbed/ambushed and pinned or made to submit. So bottom line was, the person who made it to the ring with the belt would be champion but it didn't have to be one of the people involved in the original match. Mechanically, it's a 2 out of 3 falls match with only pinfall or submission end then a bunch of angles and maybe an item retrieval match at the end. ( "Maybe" because if one of the people in the original match is winning, that can be done with an angle now).</p>

[LloydCross]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Remianen" data-cite="Remianen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This doesn't really require a new match type, per se. Any match with no count outs or DQ could realistically be 'average' (or higher) in content risk. Different companies use different names for the same concept so it can be confusing. For example, an "Extreme Rules" match can be the exact same thing as a no DQ match which can be the same thing as a Street Fight. The key differences are nuance and that's not always consistent. So really, the match's content risk depends on YOU.<p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That thought occurred to me, but when the base match set comes with Hardcore match set to Low content risk, it's hard for me to rationalize a base no DQ stipulation as a higher risk than that. I moved the Weapons match up to average on the reasoning that fans were going to bring weird/bizarre weapons.</p><p> </p><p> I guess I could just say that my peeps do particularly offensive or vicious things while doing their normal matches but I'm struggling with enough color and detail to really justify it.</p>

[Don Hughes]

How about a ladder match in the confines of a cell... Hell In A Cell type cage without the top, and ladder inside to get the belt

[cappyboy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Don Hughes" data-cite="Don Hughes" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>How about a ladder match in the confines of a cell... Hell In A Cell type cage without the top, and ladder inside to get the belt</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Is it crazy I'm envisioning like a crank or a pulley in the upper corners of the cage that could potentially be used to mess with the guy on the ladder and keep the belt away from him? Thereby making ladder placement all the more important. Not to mention incapacitation of your opponent.</p>

[Koholos]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cappyboy" data-cite="cappyboy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Is it crazy I'm envisioning like a crank or a pulley in the upper corners of the cage that could potentially be used to mess with the guy on the ladder and keep the belt away from him? Thereby making ladder placement all the more important. Not to mention incapacitation of your opponent.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Tag team match. Two cells. One controls the pulley, one has the actual ladder.</p><p> </p><p> Or set the ring apron on fire, put pulleys on each corner outside the flames so the one teammate can run around the outside edge, while the ones in the ring have to endure. Hang the fire extinguisher over the ring. Call it a Heaven or Hell matcg.</p>

[Planet Stasiak]

<p>I'm not sure if this is what your asking but I'll share anyway.</p><p> </p><p>

Streak VS Streak match;</p><p>

2 Titles 1 Winner, No Holds Barred.</p><p>

Undisputed Heavyweight Title/Harcore Title</p><p>

Setup: Weapons, Ring. Content Risk: Average or Low.</p><p>

Match Prestige: Very High</p><p> </p><p>

I was basically building a new undefeated star in WCW in 2000. He won the hardcore title in February and has not lost a match since debuting. After winning a #1 contender's tournament in November, He feuded with the Undisputed champion who had the title since 1999. It was the biggest match ever in Starrcade <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />; the reigning defending champion vs the undefeated rising star, with everything on the line.</p><p> </p><p>

The idea came from the internet, where fans were calling for a streak vs streak match in 2013 between Champion CM Punk vs Undertaker at WrestleMania.</p><p> </p><p>

Hope I Helped.</p>

[Blake Trask]

<p>I created an unsanctioned match type to account for an unscheduled match which only ends by KO (so more of a fight, but too extended to just be an angle). Not used too often but handy to have.</p><p> </p><p>

Could easily be average risk depending on the level of violence and taking place outside the usual bounds of a wrestling ring.</p>

[Remianen]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LloydCross" data-cite="LloydCross" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That thought occurred to me, but when the base match set comes with Hardcore match set to Low content risk, it's hard for me to rationalize a base no DQ stipulation as a higher risk than that. I moved the Weapons match up to average on the reasoning that fans were going to bring weird/bizarre weapons.<p> </p><p> I guess I could just say that my peeps do particularly offensive or vicious things while doing their normal matches but I'm struggling with enough color and detail to really justify it.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, it really depends on how it's booked. For example, the main difference between an 'extreme rules' match and a 'street fight' is that the former typically stays around the ringside area and the latter tends to roam all over the arena (more often than not). Also, ring gear changes where in the former, people wear their normal ring gear while in the latter, they go with street clothes (or street-ish clothes).</p><p> </p><p> If it suits your needs, it's perfect acceptable to take an existing match and craft it to your needs. Here's one:</p><p> </p><p> Stairway to Hell - 1v1, ending with either the first pinfall, submission, or retrieving the item. And falls count anywhere. It's basically a ladder match with pinfall or submission alternatives. But there is A LOT that can be done in that kind of match. It's simple and straight forward (which is my preference) and I tag it as 'regular' because I don't typically have people who can make the style matches shine (besides eye candy but that's so heavily penalized, regular is a much better choice).</p>

[Rayelek]

I could see something that was a more literal "No Holds Barred" match, in which there's a lot of intense submission holds and that sort of thing, perhaps holds that use the turnbuckles or ring ropes for extra impact that would normally be illegal or forced to be broken at 5.

[jordanmason17]

<p><strong>The Tongan Playground</strong></p><p> </p><p>

This is a match type I made up to be Mengs match speciality. This is how I envision it in my head--</p><p> </p><p>

The match takes place in a barbed wired chamber with a rough bamboo mat that will be sure to cut the opponents back if you land hard on it, the ropes are also made from barbed wire. The chamber has numerous weapons hanging down in it that can be used to the wrestlers advantages-- weapons include things like kendo sticks and whips. Due to the gruelling effect this match can have on you pinfalls <strong><em>do not</em></strong> matter, the only way to win in The Tongan Playground is to make your opponent submit <strong>or</strong> to knock your opponent out cold. </p><p> </p><p>

I set the content as <strong>'high'</strong> and injury risk was originally at <strong>'very high;</strong> but due to Meng eventually refusing to do the match due to the chance of him getting injured (which he has been injured numerous times in this match) I had to lower the risk of injury.</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>EDIT:</strong> Match type was also set as <strong>'Brawl'</strong></p>

[cappyboy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Don Hughes" data-cite="Don Hughes" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>How about a ladder match in the confines of a cell... Hell In A Cell type cage without the top, and ladder inside to get the belt</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You know, the more I think about this the more I like it. I can even see the storyline where it's introduced. You have two heated rivals feuding over a belt. Each causes it to be vacated while it's in the other's hands. They are arguing which of them is going to enter the tournament for the belt. The authority comes out and announces there will be no tourney. One of them will get the belt back. But to do it, the new champ will have to climb Satan's Staircase. Nobody knows what that means until the PPV where we have your match.</p>

[sdaubs]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Planet Stasiak" data-cite="Planet Stasiak" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Streak VS Streak match;</p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So the loser has to get naked and run around the ring? I'm not sure that I like this match idea.</p><p> </p><p> [Reads rest of post...]</p><p> </p><p> ...Oh, nevermind</p><p> </p><p> <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[cappyboy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="sdaubs" data-cite="sdaubs" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So the loser has to get naked and run around the ring? I'm not sure that I like this match idea.<p> </p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not even for the women's division? <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Heck, mix a little sarcastic comedy into your hardcore product and it could even be fine with the boys. Could be a way to poke fun at all those homoerotic barbs wrestling haters throw at us. But if you're using it for that purpose, you would want to book this very sparingly.</p>