Fleisch Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Now we have seen WCW lives mods, we've seen varying Vince selling assets mods but this mod is going to be the fallout from one change in the universe... the death of Owen Hart, or rather, not. You see, Owen didn't fall from the rafters, in fact he refused to do the stunt altogether - thus changing the timeline and the things that followed (the Butterfly Effect... or Flashpoint from the comics, whichever). The story of this will be told in the hype thread, but you can download it in the Mods by Fleisch thread when done. I have decided the mod will be starting January 2018 and in this thread will be the story (and changes) of what happened in the near 20 years since. So... Over the Edge (1999) and the Raw after. Vince McMahon wanted to have Owen Hart appear from the rafters, and descend into the ring. Owen, who was seemingly already being punished by having to endure the Blue Blazer gimmick again was reluctant. After trying the stunt on Sunday Night Heat in November 1998, Owen stated he did not like the height and refused to do the entrance telling McMahon, "I'm not doing the entrance, fire me if you want but there is no way I am doing that stunt again. I hated it in November, and it affected my performance due to the diziness I suffered." McMahon tried to persuade Owen that the entrance would be something to be remembered, but Owen stuck to his guns and said he will sit the show out if McMahon tried to force him to do something he felt was dangerous and with little pay off to the owen Hart character. Vince relented and told Owen that because he was refusing to do the stunt entrance, he was giving his IC Title match to Jeff Jarrett with Blue Blazer being beaten down backstage, writing him out of the match. Jarrett would win the title and dedicated it to Owen, vowing to find whoever beat him down backstage and exact revenge. The next night on Raw, Owen came out alongside Jarrett, Debra and without the Blue Blazer gimmick and cut a promo saying how he was sick of the WWF taking away his opportunities and paying for the sins of his brother. He said they could stick the Blue Blazer gimmick up their ass and if McMahon wanted to make him wear the ridiculous costume, he'd have to come down to the ring and put it on him by force. Jarrett then said that last night he won the belt for Owen and handed Hart the title belt. Jarrett said he only had the belt because Owen had been assaulted backstage and that he wasn't about to take away what his friend had been promised. Owen looked confused at first but then realising they had one-upped Vince, he smiled and raised his arms, prompting the chairman to come out to the stage. McMahon told Owen he couldn't just be given the belt by his friend and that if he wanted the title, he would have to fight Jarrett for it later tonight. "Make no mistake Owen, that belt is my property, and I decide if someone is given it or not." growled McMahon. "Oh and one last thing, if you even think about just laying down Jarrett, not only will you be stripped of the title, but you will both end up working in catering!" Later that evening, during the match between Owen Hart and Jeff Jarrett, with Owen in full control of his friend and tag team partner, Vince McMahon came down to ringside distracting the referee. this allowed Mark Henry to come in from the crowd and assault Owen, allowing Jarrett to pick up the pinfall victory. After the match Mark Henry entered the ring and hit a huge splash on Owen before leaving. Jarrett and Debra checked on Owen, before helping him to his feet and to the back. To be continued... ... The Continuation The next week on Raw, Owen and Jeff were in a tag team against Mark Henry & Kurt Angle. As Owen was about to put Angle in the Sharpshooter, Mark Henry stole Jarretts guitar and hit Owen over the head, causing a DQ. This tag team feud would continue and culminate in a cage match at King of the Ring between the two teams. During the match, Jarrett escaped the cage, leaving Owen alone to fight off both Mark Henry and Kurt Angle. Angle then made his escape from the cage, leaving Mark Henry and Owen. Just as Henry was about to leave through the door, Jarrett ran and slammed the door on his head, knocking him out cold. This allowed Owen to escape overe the top, with Jarrett and Owen winning the match. The next night on Raw, saw Jarrett start a feud with Edge over the IC Title when Edge interupted Jarretts non-title match with The Godfather, causing him to lose. Owen came down to assist his friend and nailed Edge from behind with Jarretts guitar. The crowd began to boo Owen, to which he flashed them a smirk and proceeded to put Edge in the Shapshooter. The next couple of weeks saw a bit of a rift form between Hart & Jarrett, with Owen becoming increasingly more "heelish" in his behaviour. At Fully Loaded 99, Edge defeated Jarrett for the IC Title when Owen came down to the ring, and hit Jarrett with his own guitar. At first Owen looked shocked, playing on the "it was an accident" role. He entered the ring after the match to see if Jarrett was Ok, helping him up to his feet. As Jarrett asked Owen what he was playing at, Debra hit a low blow on Jarrett from behind as Owen then DDT'd Jarrett into the mat, cementing himself as a heel in the process. Unfortunately, their feud would take an abrupt halt, when Owen injured his back in a match against D-Lo Brown (who Jarrett would then spend time feuding with over the IC Title after winning it back from Edge). During a Jeff Jarrett vs. Kurt Angle match, Owen Hart would make his return a couple of months later, knocking out his former partner and raising the IC Title belt above his head. A match was signed for WWF No Mercy 1999, with the loser having to leave the WWF, and the winner being the IC Champion. The match was won by Owen Hart, who began his third reign as Intercontinental Champion, and Jarrett was forced to leave (his contract was up and he'd already agreed to join WCW). Owen Hart would then go on to win 2 WWF World Heavyweight titles (June 25, 2000 to October 22, 2000 and April 1, 2001 to September 23, 2001) and a further Intercontinental reign (September 6 2004 to September 12, 2004) before retiring from in ring duty in 2005. In 2010 he was inducted into the WWE Hall of fame. Owen still makes the odd appearance now and then, but not in an in ring capacity. Next Up... How has the rest of the world been affected by this ripple in time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phreak Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 This sounds amazing! Loving the back story so far. Be interesting to see where it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 This is a What If scenario that I've always wanted to play. Looking forward to seeing how this is fleshed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatIsraeliGuy Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 <p>Fleisch AND an Alternate Reality Mod?</p><p> </p><p> Two of my favorite TEW things just got together</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a0161613 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 This could be pretty special. It's a very brave decision to base it in 2018, it would have been "easier" to keep it earlier. Consider me on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyWillyWilly Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 An unique scenario in Fleisch quality. what can be better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lloyd Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I'm hooked!!!! Reel me in brother!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 <p>Owen's alive! How exactly has that 1 event changed things in the world though? Well that my friends is the beauty of the Butterfly Effect, it can create huge differences, or it can create smaller, less significant differences.</p><p> </p><p> <span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>One Remains... One Never Got Started. The biggest difference</strong></span></p><p> </p><p> The landscape of the United States scene is pretty much as it is in our timeline... well except WCW stayed in business (<em>I researched the potential buyers and chose Randy Savage as the new owner - I read that he made a bid in real life for the tape library but was too late as WWE were already in advanced talks</em>). Jeff Jarrett became a huge part of WCW (eventually becoming their head booker in 2009 when Arn Anderson wanted to lighten his duties and stepped down into a more advisory role) and as such, Total Nonstop Action Global Force Impact Wrestling was never created. </p><p> </p><p> The WCW never reached the heights it had done in 1996, but maintained a steady pace moving forward, both creating new stars and bringing in the underutilised and released WWE workers over time. They have a solid roster with several decent names (Cody Rhodes joined in 2016, Drew Galloway, Ryback, Damien Sandow etc). One of WCW's biggest home grown stars from the mid 00's (Mark Jindrak) opted to leave the company when they refused to pay him what he believed he was worth. The former 3 time World Champion headed down to CMLL and never looked back.</p><p> </p><p> WCW and WWE's rivalry also cooled over time, with both companies concentrating on their own respective business and not paying the other too much attention. In a 2008 interview, Savage was quoted as saying "I didn't buy the company to beat the WWE, I bought it for the tape library. I don't see any point in "Wars" on any day of the week and we will concentrate on our model, and they can concentrate on theirs. It's about making money for me now and not enemies."</p><p> </p><p> Another smaller change to the United States was that NXT was a company Paul Heyman had suggested opening in a conversation with Triple H. A hybrid promotion with a lot more in ring action and a more Indie wrestling feel. Triple H loved the idea and took it to Vince McMahon who gave him the go ahead to open it as the WWE's new development league. Triple H was appointed CEO of NXT , with Heyman acting as the head booker.</p><p> </p><p> To be continued...</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatIsraeliGuy Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 <p>Heyman as NXT Head Booker...</p><p> </p><p> Yeah, I think I just had a markgasm.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> P.S. this just keeps looking better and better, I'm interested in how you will deal with the rest of the world (NJPW, ROH, England etc) if they were at all affected, as well as the current Neville situation and whether or not he goes to WCW</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DatIsraeliGuy" data-cite="DatIsraeliGuy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45327" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Heyman as NXT Head Booker...<p> </p><p> Yeah, I think I just had a markgasm.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> P.S. this just keeps looking better and better, I'm interested in how you will deal with the rest of the world (NJPW, ROH, England etc) if they were at all affected, as well as the current Neville situation and whether or not he goes to WCW</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Neville was released from NXT in 2015 and never made it to the main roster... where oh where did PAC end up?</p><p> </p><p> Uhaa "Apollo Crews" Nation was never signed to the WWE, neither was AJ Styles <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Curtis Axel left, and headed to WCW where his dad is (very much alive) and doing colour commentary for the WCW. He is using the name J.C. Hennig and has had a little success (especially alongside his tag partner Matt Morgan as The Blueprints of Perfection).</p><p> </p><p> I don't want to give too much more away as to where some people have ended up, and which wrestlers were never signed by WWE but they do have a slightly less bloated roster as there was never a reason for a brand split.</p><p> </p><p> Also, the title situation...</p><p> </p><p> WWE World Heavyweight Title</p><p> WWE Intercontinental Title</p><p> WWE World Tag Team Titles</p><p> WWE Women's Title</p><p> WWE Cruiserweight Title (The Cruiserweight Classic happened)</p><p> There are none of the other "brand split" belts in the data, they are all the original belt's (including the Women's being the lineage that dates back to Moolah) which I have updated. No, the UK Tournament did not happen so there is no WWE United Kingdom championship.</p><p> </p><p> I have also done all the lineages for WCW belts from 2001-2018. Although the WCW Television title was not reinstated until July 2014, and the WCW Women's title didn't make a comeback until April 2016.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatIsraeliGuy Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fleisch" data-cite="Fleisch" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45327" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Neville was released from NXT in 2015 and never made it to the main roster... where oh where did PAC end up?<p> </p><p> Uhaa "Apollo Crews" Nation was never signed to the WWE, neither was AJ Styles <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Curtis Axel left, and headed to WCW where his dad is (very much alive) and doing colour commentary for the WCW. He is using the name J.C. Hennig and has had a little success (especially alongside his tag partner Matt Morgan as The Blueprints of Perfection).</p><p> </p><p> I don't want to give too much more away as to where some people have ended up, and which wrestlers were never signed by WWE but they do have a slightly less bloated roster as there was never a reason for a brand split.</p><p> </p><p> Also, the title situation...</p><p> </p><p> WWE World Heavyweight Title</p><p> WWE Intercontinental Title</p><p> WWE World Tag Team Titles</p><p> WWE Women's Title</p><p> WWE Cruiserweight Title (The Cruiserweight Classic happened)</p><p> There are none of the other "brand split" belts in the data, they are all the original belt's (including the Women's being the lineage that dates back to Moolah) which I have updated. No, the UK Tournament did not happen so there is no WWE United Kingdom championship.</p><p> </p><p> I have also done all the lineages for WCW belts from 2001-2018. Although the WCW Television title was not reinstated until July 2014, and the WCW Women's title didn't make a comeback until April 2016.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You are just begging me to do a WCW save in this aren't you?</p><p> </p><p> This looks more and more awesome by the minute</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy_Tweest Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 <p>Oh lord, this mod looks simply amazing. </p><p> Kudos to Fleisch who is consistently putting out great mods to play with !</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxicheezestick Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I....have no words. This sounds AMAZING. Can't wait to play it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisma Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Sounds really interesting!!! Also can't wait to give this a go <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattL1222 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Waaaah! I wanna play it already <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> So hyped for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWho87 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 i am intrigued at how this event will change the wrestling world outside the United States, he says hoping for a World of Sport style revival in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phreak Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 <p>Couple of questions, Fleisch. Probably a bit cheeky but I'll ask anyway: </p><p> </p><p> a) Is this a mod you've been working on for awhile behind the scenes or has work just started (planning aside, of course)? Just asking to get a feel for how far along you are and to get a rough time frame for release. Obviously when you're good and ready, but I'm curious.</p><p> </p><p> b) Have you given any thought to releasing any "historical" mods based off of this alt universe in the future? I know this one isn't even out yet, but again, curiosity.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Phreak" data-cite="Phreak" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45327" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Couple of questions, Fleisch. Probably a bit cheeky but I'll ask anyway: <p> </p><p> a) Is this a mod you've been working on for awhile behind the scenes or has work just started (planning aside, of course)? Just asking to get a feel for how far along you are and to get a rough time frame for release. Obviously when you're good and ready, but I'm curious.</p><p> </p><p> b) Have you given any thought to releasing any "historical" mods based off of this alt universe in the future? I know this one isn't even out yet, but again, curiosity.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The mod is based off of my Real World mod so the bulk of it is done. I have completed WCW and most of its history from 2001 to 2018. I have also added Stampede wrestling and currently adding title histories for them. Impact have been deleted. There's some more I need to do but it should be out soon.</p><p> </p><p> At present I have no plans to do historical versions.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phreak Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fleisch" data-cite="Fleisch" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45327" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The mod is based off of my Real World mod so the bulk of it is done. I have completed WCW and most of its history from 2001 to 2018. I have also added Stampede wrestling and currently adding title histories for them. Impact have been deleted. There's some more I need to do but it should be out soon.<p> </p><p> At present I have no plans to do historical versions.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Cool, thanks for the answers. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted April 29, 2018 Author Share Posted April 29, 2018 <p>Canada saw a change in it's landscape with Stampede Wrestling making a comeback in 2010. Bret Hart re-opened the company as due to Owen never dying at Over the Edge, Bret didn't get bitter towards the industry. He had a semi-successful run in WCW and never suffered the botched Mule Kick from Goldberg. He left the company in January 2008 and made a shocking return to the WWE as the on air General Manager from March 2008 until he re-opened Stampede in May 2010.</p><p> </p><p> The company promotes 2 title belts, the original Stampede North American Heavyweight title, which dates back to 1968 and the newly created (well in 2010) Stampede North American Tag Team belts. Two of the most successful tag teams in recent years have been Jack Evans & Teddy Hart (Hart Foundation 2.0) and Ashley Sixx & William Brady (both teams are 4 time holders). In 2015, Bret Hart & Jim Neidhart came out of retirement to win the tag team titles from Ashley Sixx & William Brady after Bret (as the on air authority) had tired of their constant rule breaking. The match stipulated that if Bret and (at the time) his mystery partner beat Sixx & Brady, they would be crowned the tag champions, but if Sixx and Brady won, then Hart handed control of Stampede over to them for one year.</p><p> </p><p> The company uses various wrestlers from across Canada and America on their shows but usually have a few "regulars" who appear frequently. </p><p> </p><p> In 2017 Bret Hart & Vince McMahon struck a deal with the WWE to show Stampedes big events on the WWE Network. They also began running a 1 hour weekly show on the network. The public were of the opinion that WWE was also funding them. Hart stated in an interview that although they were appearing on the Network, they were only getting exposure and no monetary gain from the WWE at all - and that it afforded them the use of the vast Video Library from Stampede's past that Vince McMahon owned which would normally cost them a fortune to use.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lloyd Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 So far this is awesome. As you said, The butterfly effect creates some small events, some HUGE!! Looking forward to seeing where this goes!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWho87 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Would this timeline include the matrats and it actually working? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 I just wanna know if we still get Titus WorldSlide! in this timeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TheWho87" data-cite="TheWho87" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45327" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>i am intrigued at how this event will change the wrestling world outside the United States, he says hoping for a World of Sport style revival in the UK.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hope no more dear Who!</p><p> </p><p> WoS Wrestling re-opened in 2005 but remain a small promotion for the time being (32 Popularity across the UK). They do not have any PPV events and run a strictly TV Only schedule (Saturday Afternoons on ITV).</p><p> </p><p> They have 2 titles, the WoS British Heavyweight Title has been the main belt since the re-opening in 2005 (with Sha Samuels having held the title on 4 occasions - the record number of times held by one person). The current champion is Paul Burchill (his 3rd reign) who didn't leave the business in this alternative timeline.</p><p> </p><p> Their WoS British Heavyweight Tag Team was unveiled in 2012, with Will Ospreay and Scotty Essex the first Champions. The current champions (and holders of the belt on the most occasions) are Jody Fleisch & Jonny Storm who are currently on their 4th reign. They beat Trent Seven & Pete Dunne who have currently left the company.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWho87 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fleisch" data-cite="Fleisch" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45327" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The current champion is Paul Burchill (his 3rd reign) who didn't leave the business in this alternative timeline.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You sir know how to get me excited, I just hope he got that Lesnar style push that <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsCRdbfKde4" rel="external nofollow">the FWA were working on back in the day</a>.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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