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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>When people are talking about the Cult segment are we talking about the scene that started in the diner?<p> </p><p> When I initially read it, it looked like a Cult thing to me but upon further review I am just not sure. Mainly due to the blue color of text in it, I am not sure if that was what others were talking about or not but if it is I am going back and forth on if I think that reads as a recruitment or not.</p><p> </p><p> Now this is another metagame thing but I was thinking, I wonder if mach was active during the night or not. I mean he was not replaced and we did have two folks on the reserve roster (SF who joined the game and Nick). That just might be me overthinking things.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, that looks like it could be a roleblock or something too. It's tough to say, really. I wouldn't use the blue text as a giveaway that it's town, though. That could very easily be a mislead.</p><p> </p><p> I do agree that it's strange that 1 post mdylan was replaced, but not 1 post machine, but in mdylan's one post he did mention working two jobs, so maybe they asked to be replaced? I dunno.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>When people are talking about the Cult segment are we talking about the scene that started in the diner?<p> </p><p> When I initially read it, it looked like a Cult thing to me but upon further review I am just not sure. Mainly due to the blue color of text in it, I am not sure if that was what others were talking about or not but if it is I am going back and forth on if I think that reads as a recruitment or not.</p><p> </p><p> Now this is another metagame thing but I was thinking, I wonder if mach was active during the night or not. I mean he was not replaced and we did have two folks on the reserve roster (SF who joined the game and Nick). That just might be me overthinking things.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If you really want to meta it. Wasn't Nick on the reserve first, and thus would've had first dibs, and was likely sent a notice to respond if he wanted to sub in?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Crychon" data-cite="Crychon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah, that looks like it could be a roleblock or something too. It's tough to say, really. <strong> I wouldn't use the blue text as a giveaway that it's town, though. That could very easily be a mislead.</strong><p> </p><p> I do agree that it's strange that 1 post mdylan was replaced, but not 1 post machine, but in mdylan's one post he did mention working two jobs, so maybe they asked to be replaced? I dunno.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> See that was along the lines of what I was thinking as well. Having never played an Outlaw run game I am not sure how devious he would be. Granted the whole color of the text thing is not that devious but still.</p><p> </p><p> I read the whole van thing as the roleblock.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If you really want to meta it. Wasn't Nick on the reserve first, and thus would've had first dibs, and was likely sent a notice to respond if he wanted to sub in?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Like I said it could be me overthinking things. Though I think it would be nice for mach to at least pop in and give us some information today.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Emark" data-cite="Emark" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>ShadowedFlames, good to see you back...<p> </p><p> Eh, it could be a recruitment but it can also read like a protection. A whole lot of moving pieces on N1 for sure that needs multiple reads.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Any reason to think you were targeted last night? Just a yes / no will do at this point.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="eayragt" data-cite="eayragt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Any reason to think you were targeted last night? Just a yes / no will do at this point.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> At this point, no.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Emark" data-cite="Emark" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>At this point, no.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thank you. No idea how I'd be described in a write up, so in the caring sharing of information... I have no idea if I was targeted or not.</p>
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<p>So I'm reading along during my NXT catch up... Gargano vs Black was awesome BTW, check it out if you haven't.</p><p> </p><p>

I'm with Arrows for most of the write up analysis, it seems to line up fairly logically so I'm not going to argue that. The only potential lead we have from the write up is the bit we're discussing a possible cult person and jailer. My quick read last night does look wrong now (green text just make me think cult recruitment) but it reads more like the person with green text was at least being roleblocked. I kinda want to see if anyone is willing to come forward and say if they were blocked last night.... could help to shed some light on the situation without revealing too much information.</p><p> </p><p>

I'm also curious to hear from machinesxe. I don't want to revisit yesterday yet, but I am also interested to hear from people who were voting later in the phase. I do feel there is information to be found there too. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Arrows, I don't read that part as a jailor. I'd expect a jailor to do something with the target's ability during the next phase. Otherwise it would be just a roleblocker.<p> </p><p> I think we do have a cult on our hands. Just my 0.02.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> A jailer traditionally stops somebody from being able to perform their ability for two nights right?</p>
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<p>A quick copy and paste job from the Terminology thread years ago.... a less rusty version of myself wrote it, so I trust the author. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

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Jailer and Jailkeeper: Fairly common townie night time ability in either of it's forms. In both cases the player targetted for jailing is unable to perform any night actions as a result of the jailing, though the side effects are different.</p><p> </p><p>

In one variant a player is locked up in jail so that they are unable to perform any night actions while also being protected by the jailer. In this version the person jailed is basically roleblocked and protected, while still being able to be targetted by others with night abilities.</p><p> </p><p>

The other main variant a player is jailed, leading to them being made untargettable. The jailing acts as a roleblock since the player can't leave the jail while also meaning that no-one else at all is able to target the player for any other ability.</p><p> </p><p>

Those are the two main kinds of jailing to keep in mind. Some mods will also make it so that the player being jailed is unable to speak while being jailed. In all cases if someone is jailed then they are unable to perform their usual night action, so if there is a kill missing on the night someone is jailed then there is a good chance that the person being jailed will be looked at during the following phase.</p>

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Right, with people being busy later on in the phase and with no information coming to light as of yet, do we potentially waste time with the machinesxe today? I know we're still waiting to here from some.

 

seems logical.

 

as he has now had 2 days and has not said boo at all.

 

* except don't I seem to remember a game where there was a role that keeps a person from being unable to speak the next day?

 

meta gaming wise has anyone seen him lurking but still not posting?

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* except don't I seem to remember a game where there was a role that keeps a person from being unable to speak the next day?

 

There have been silencers in previous games, but typically it’s announced in the night write up that so-and-so can’t post for a day and night phase.

 

This strikes me as doing the bare minimum to remain active and simply playing by lurking...something I freely admit I’ve done many times in the past because one can learn a bit when being quiet and watching others. (There were also the times I worked 60+ hours at a time in the winter before but that’s no longer a thing for me, haha.)

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seems logical.

 

as he has now had 2 days and has not said boo at all.

 

* except don't I seem to remember a game where there was a role that keeps a person from being unable to speak the next day?

 

meta gaming wise has anyone seen him lurking but still not posting?

 

In the past, I feel like we were told if someone couldn't speak for the day.

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well damn, some one with an ability is gone. Rev you will be missed

 

Hmmm

 

The part Arrows pointed out? I read a jailer. I could be wrong though.

 

Was that pointed out in your scum chat?

 

Right, with people being busy later on in the phase and with no information coming to light as of yet, do we potentially waste time with the machinesxe today? I know we're still waiting to here from some.

 

Maybe, but it shouldn't monopolize the day. If we keep chasing the same thing as a town we wont learn anything new. A good backup plan.

 

So I'm reading along during my NXT catch up... Gargano vs Black was awesome BTW, check it out if you haven't.

 

I'm with Arrows for most of the write up analysis, it seems to line up fairly logically so I'm not going to argue that. The only potential lead we have from the write up is the bit we're discussing a possible cult person and jailer. My quick read last night does look wrong now (green text just make me think cult recruitment) but it reads more like the person with green text was at least being roleblocked. I kinda want to see if anyone is willing to come forward and say if they were blocked last night.... could help to shed some light on the situation without revealing too much information.

 

I'm also curious to hear from machinesxe. I don't want to revisit yesterday yet, but I am also interested to hear from people who were voting later in the phase. I do feel there is information to be found there too. :)

 

I would say if this is the case and that person doesn't come forward than that's a pretty scummy move. Town needs all the info it can get.

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mistaken" data-cite="mistaken" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>seems logical.<p> </p><p> as he has now had 2 days and has not said boo at all.</p><p> </p><p> * except don't I seem to remember a game where there was a role that keeps a person from being unable to speak the next day?</p><p> </p><p> meta gaming wise has anyone seen him lurking but still not posting?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I can't see a silencer being in this game. outlaw321 has been vocal about the resurgence of mafia and I feel that silencer roles only hinder activity in general. I am not a fan of those sort of roles. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Astil" data-cite="Astil" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Do we believe a kill was somehow blocked?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's possible. I don't know if there would be two killers in a game this size, do you think we have a serial killer?</p><p> </p><p> I'll be honest, I thought today would be much busier than this. I know everyone has their own stuff going on and "real lives" but it's day two and we don't have much to go on. I'd be willing to place another vote on machinesxe later on if we don't hear anything more.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Astil" data-cite="Astil" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Do we believe a kill was somehow blocked?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There are a few write-ups that suggest blocking...nothing that suggest a kill but it might be possible.</p>
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